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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 10:28pm On Apr 06, 2022
cornelboy:
The truth is no JW worship any 8 men.
The strictly worship only Jehovah the one true God!
If no jws worship no 8 men, you won't be here defending them cheesy grin wink cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 10:19pm On Apr 06, 2022
Janosky:
The Greek Orthodox church Screenshots says Jesus Christ is NOT God Almighty, Jesus is godlike, with divine nature.
It's Greek Orthodox Church this time grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

But there's nobody like God grin cheesy grin

John 17:21
That they all shall be one, just as you, my Father, are in me, and I am in you, so that they also shall be one in us"

Mr LIENUS, you see am?
Jesus says they (disciples) are one in us" (him & God). ALL of them na Trinity.
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Your brain has started overheating, when it cools down reread my statement again cheesy grin cheesy grin

Emusan GIBBERISH grin
E pain am, worshipper of 8 Old men in Brooklyn cheesy grin cheesy grin

Creature called " Mastercraftsman" working beside God at his side.
So was Prov 8 about Jesus?
cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin

"MIGHTY GOD" meaning "EL", Hebrew language word for "GOD", referring to Yahweh, man, Angels etc.
Let Biblehub help you grin grin
So where was Moses called MIGHTY GOD?

Out of frustration, you just jumped into what is is bigger than you.

Oya.... cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 10:09pm On Apr 06, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol I bet you don't know the dictionary meaning of originator.
You can tell me

I only believe what's in the Bible not pagan doctrines.
Even Devil himself believes what iss in the Bible grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

What's the essence of having the Bible with them and doing what's contrary to God's TRUTH?
So why do you bothering yourself about them?

Are you Jehovah to have known they do contrary to His truth? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Mercy Of Jesus Christ Crucified Overcomes The Punishment Our Sin Deserves by Emusan(m): 10:04pm On Apr 06, 2022
cornelboy:
You asked:
My reply:

You still went ahead and said;

When I already explained that Jesus completely left heaven.

What are you displaying here?
If Jesus completely left heaven, it means he retained that form he was created with. Do you disagree? grin grin grin grin cheesy

I also asked;
Who's the word?

Your replied:

You still later said:

Who's the word, who's Jesus?

John 17:24
[24]Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

The "word" is a title used for Jesus by John.
Jesus was called the word and the word is Jesus.

What are you still displaying here?
The Word is His name before he became human that is what John was talking about

Learn

Make I just stop here.

I'll stop responding you of you don't say something reasonable. I don tire abeg.
You don't need to say it
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 9:57pm On Apr 06, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
If you're seeing it please point it out to me! smiley
I have already shown you earlier but you switch off they socket grin grin grin grin

Here it is again:

CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

ERV: He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit.

EHV: Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed,

GW: Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality

MSG: He had equal status with God but didn’t think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

NIRV: In his very nature he was God. Jesus was equal with God. But Jesus didn’t take advantage of that fact.

OJB: Who, though existing in the demut of the mode of being of Elohim [His etzem or essential nature, Yn 1:1-2; 17:5], nevertheless Moshiach did not regard being equal with G-d as a thing to be seized [BERESHIS 3:5]
Phil 2:6
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 2:03pm On Mar 28, 2022
NNTR:
Luke 18:27
'Jesus replied,
“What is impossible with man, is possible with God.”
'

Is it something too hard for God to do?
Is it impossible for God to send Himself by carrying out a Do It Yourself project, in other words, DIY?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
They will agree there's nothing difficult for God to do but in other word it's too difficult for their God to come down to earth and still remains in heaven.

When even both heavens and earth can't contain the same God.

I once asked one JWs that is it possible for God to appear in all 36 states of Nigeria at the same time?

He couldn't answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:59pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
To me you're also WRONG.
That wisdom in Prov 8 is Jesus or not grin grin cheesy cheesy grin

Or how am I wrong?

So it's simply my conclusion against yours,
No! It's simply your conclusion against the scripture.

Do you agree Prov 8 is about Jesus?

that is why we need to go for something different from all these arguments which is the FRUIT as in the BENEFIT of your theory among the adherents! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
Of course the fruits and the benefits can be seen everywhere unless you decided to blindfold your eyes about it.
Christianity Etc › Re: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Emusan(m): 1:55pm On Mar 28, 2022
Janosky:
Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.

Mr LIENUS which sentence of John 1:1 you put "is"? grin grin
Where your "is" dey John 1:1?
The Word is God.....let it keep paining you

Yes!
Definitely!
Do you know why?
I love Bible Versions that use God's name.
Catholic Jerusalem Bible is one of them.
The Catholic Church Jerusalem Bible knows that Psalms 45:6-7 is the authentic copy of Hebrews 1:8. grin grin
Waooooooo your elder must hear this.

But the same Catholic Jerusalem Bible

Says "The word was God"

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Theos meaning "A god" is very luminously correct @ John 1:1.
Oga,go & quarrel with Greek language for disgrace to your Trinity GIBBERISH.
Ho Theos is the God Almighty everywhere in Greek language,99%.grin cheesy grin cheesy
Does Theos mean ONLY "A god" according to your own definition?

Lying liar JaNosense!

Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.

God made the Universe through his son.
Emphasis on "His", the Creator is a "His".
NOT Creators,Mr idol worshipper Polytheist
. grin cheesy grin grin grin grin grin


Continue DECEIVING yourself, Mr 3 deities Polytheist.
This point in my previous response has exposed Mr LYING genius, check the time this Janosky post was on this thread.

Janosky post @ 10:22am, March 27th,2022:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2".
He has started spewing thrashes again.

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Mercy Of Jesus Christ Crucified Overcomes The Punishment Our Sin Deserves by Emusan(m): 1:47pm On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:
MaxinDhouse have you met and argue with a mad man before?
Name calling has started..... cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:45pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell there's nowhere it's written in the scriptures that Jesus is equal to God. Shey huh
But you just read Phillipian 2:6 where is was written boldly.
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:44pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
In the beginning WAS the Word:
This person i want to talk about existed in the beginning.
So he was not God at those time?

And the Word WAS with God:
He WAS with God during creation.
Why he was on earth, he was never with God bah cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy yet Jesus says the Father is IN Him and always with Him

Continue your lie

And the word WAS God:
He later became God in the midst of Israel.
Liar even your 8 lying old men in Warwick will never say such

I concluded this way because Isaiah said the promised child will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6
Your conclusion is wrong.

Jesus was never a counselor in the midst of mankind until he grew up among the Israelites so he served in all those capacities one after another.
Yet you'll agree that Prov 8 wisdom personification is Jesus.

Do you know what Prov entirely says about WISDOM?

You see the reason why I said your conclusion is wrong.

He first became a child, then grew up to be a Wonderful Counselor, due to the powerful works he became a Mighty God and after paying for obedient mankind with his blood he became the Everlasting Father of obedient mankind unlike Adam who is dead now! 1Corinthians 15:45
Jesus who was an angel and all angels and human are god still became MIGHTY GOD

So was Moses ever referred to as MIGHTY GOD?

So he was never God until he came to live in the midst of mankind and exhibit those qualities just as Moses was not a God until he God to Egypt! smiley
Angels and human are all god, so how come Jesus who was an angel will later become MIGHTY GOD? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Does MIGHTY God different from god which angels and Human are said to be?
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:32pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where this is paraphrased in the scriptures?

Thanks in advance! smiley
Nothing like paraphrase but direct word for word

But read this with your comprehension cap on your head

[b]CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

ERV: He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit.

EHV: Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed,

GW: Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality

MSG: He had equal status with God but didn’t think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

NIRV: In his very nature he was God. Jesus was equal with God. But Jesus didn’t take advantage of that fact.

OJB: Who, though existing in the demut of the mode of being of Elohim [His etzem or essential nature, Yn 1:1-2; 17:5], nevertheless Moshiach did not regard being equal with G-d as a thing to be seized [BERESHIS 3:5] Phil 2:6


I have to bring many translations here for simple understanding of that verse.
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:18pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
John did not say "IS God" rather he wrote "Was God" which means the person in question WAS a God at a point in time just like Moses WAS God in Egypt! smiley
The same John says "In the beginning WAS the word, the word WAS with God, and the word WAS God"

As a good English student, will you have rather put "IS" in the last sentence?

Even let's grant your ignorance of simple English.

At what point Jesus was a god

When he was in heaven?
When he became man?
When he resurrected?
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:12pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's according to the way you understand this.

Jesus was with God in the beginning.
Jesus existed long before we were all created.
Jesus participated in making all other things.
Jesus lived in heaven before coming to earth.
Not the way I understand it but what the scripture says.

But he himself said the father is greater than him {John 14:28} to me it means all what Jesus could be is due to the grace of God who made Jesus the first creature (first born of all creation)
We can say Jesus is the second highest BEING in the universe base on this yet how can such being ever be like Moses?

The truth is, if God has no match because he is the creator the person who co-created ALL OTHER THINGS can never have any match too

So if that same person later made Moses like a God it simply means both Jesus and Moses are no match for the one who gave them the authority they had.
The Bible says Jesus is equal to God,

Does Bible say the same about Moses?

The Bible says Jesus existed with the Father before anything was created

Does Bible say anything like that about Moses.

Jesus is no match to Moses even if we go with your claim that He was DIRECTLY CREATED BY GOD FIRST

Therefore it doesn't matter who came first or last between the two to me what really matters is that God used both of them at different point in time and they both direct all honor and glory to the one who sent them.
It matters that was the reason you can bring him low to the level of a mere Moses.

Jesus isn't even match to Abraham who is far greater than Moses in every respect.

So the same person made both of them what they are, that's why Jesus could say:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing; for whatever he does, that the Son does likewise" John 5:19
Your understanding of that verse is shallow, the Son can do nothing because He became part of creation.

To me both of them were made to be like God by the Almighty who gave them authority! smiley
That's why I asked you, where was it stated in the scripture that Jesus was made to be LIKE GOD?

You decide to use that phrase "to be like god" not because you find it in the scripture but just to bring Him to Moses level.
Christianity Etc › Re: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Emusan(m): 12:43pm On Mar 28, 2022
Janosky:
Janosky post:
"God MADE the universe , NOT his Son.
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.
The Son is agency of creation.


Why this Emusan too dey LIE?
What was JaNosense even saying here

You see "is" at John 1:1?
Emusan is wedded to LYING.
I said The word is God, do you have problem with that? grin

Shame on Emusan LYING genius.
Psalms 45:6-7,Jerusalem Bible is the official Bible of the Catholic Church who first taught you the Trinity GIBBERISH.
So do you take Jerusalem Bible as authentic translation?

JaNosense will change tune now cheesy grin grin

Theos "A god" is very authentic, genuine and authoritative rendition of the last sentence of John 1:1.
Ho Theos ("The God" Almighty) is NOT "a god."
The Word, his son is "a god."
Other sons are gods. John 10:35-36, Jesus knows that. grin
According to the definition you gave, was Theos only mean "A god"? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Lying liar JaNosense?

Oh I see !
Emusan is a confirmed Polytheist worshipping 2 or 3 GODS. grin grin grin grin
At least my God is 2 or 3 creator of the Universe but yours are 8 old lying men in Warwick cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

3 godheads worshippers no dey respect John 20:17.
Na John 20:17 Jesus Christ disgrace them
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Just as worshipper of 8 lying old men never respect Heb 1:2, Col 1:16-18
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 12:32pm On Mar 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Who made Jesus a prophet and "God" like Moses? Deuteronomy 18:15-19
So where does the Bible say Jesus was MADE LIKE God?

Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is the prophet that was sent in the manner of Moses! Act 3:22
That scripture didn't say, in the MANNER OF MOSES that was your own perversion.

Was universe created through Moses?
Was Moses existed before the creation of the world?
Was Moses had glory with the Father before anything was created?
Was Moses live in eternity with the Father long before God brought creation into being?

To even think Jesus is LIKE a god the same way Moses was made like a god to Pharaoh is so pathetic.

So if you don't agree then i'm not interested in blind arguments! Titus 3:9 smiley
So it's a must for him to agree with you first cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Wonder shall never ends
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 12:23pm On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Most Christians (church goers)
This watchtower brainwashing effect is so real.

Why calling them Christians and not just your usual Churchgoers?

today from protestants churches and all other Christian denominations believe that Jesus is GOD and he's equal and the same as the Father.
It's the Bible that says Jesus is God and the Creator

@bold you mean Trinitarian also says Jesus is the Father? shocked shocked shocked shocked How long will you people stop lying for your god of men in Brooklyn?

If they are really right as they think they are, why do they find it hard to believe virgin Mary as the mother of GOD?
Ignorance won't allow you to learn, if you have different opinion to some doctrines but at least try to understand the point first, that's how an open-minded person does.

I'm not a Catholic but the understanding I have through Catholic explanation of Mary being mother of GOD isn't that Mary gave birth to the divine nature of The word that became flesh in person of Jesus Christ but in a sense that The word which is God in essence was made flesh through Mary.

The fact is, if indeed Jesus is God and he's the Father, there's no blasphemy in saying Mary is the mother of GOD.
Can you provide where Trinitarian ever claimed that Jesus is both God and the Father?

The Roman Catholic church is the originator of trinity and "Mary the mother of GOD" doctrines. So why should we believe in one and reject the other?
Just the same way they are the originator of 66books you are using today.

So why do you accept the 66books and reject Trinity and Mother of God?
Christianity Etc › Re: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Emusan(m): 12:04pm On Mar 28, 2022
Janosky:
Emusan, you LIED that JWs copied Colossians 1:16-18 from Johannes Grieber Translation.
I challenge you to present the proof for your FALSEHOOD which contravene Nairaland Rule number 8.

Accursed LIAR.
Where did I say Jws copied Colossians 1:16-18 from johannes Gerber?

You forgot to pick your brain from Hall after meeting yesterday JaNosense? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Mercy Of Jesus Christ Crucified Overcomes The Punishment Our Sin Deserves by Emusan(m): 10:40am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol who did John refers to as the "word"?
The man Jesus Christ!

You can only confuse yourself smiley
But the confusion is all over you

1. The Bible explains that Jesus was with God before the foundation of the world. He resided in heaven as a whole complete being before he became flesh.
You still don't get it,

Jesus was not with God but "The Word" is cheesy grin

We know He is a complete BEING before became flesh.

It's not hard. God miraculously transferred him {his whole being, person} into Mary's womb. He completely left heaven.
Waoooo I love this, that means the person in heaven still exist why in the womb grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Don't let your organization disfellowsip you for that statement cheesy

Humans will be in God's Kingdom but in a spirit body (not with as physical man, flesh and blood).
And you still call them HUMAN grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The kingdom will come to earth (earth is different from heaven Mr spoon feeder) to rule and judge the earth.
That means people on earth will still enter the kingdom, true or false?

I don't know the body the people (kings) in the kingdom and Jesus their KING will have, it's not explicitly stated in the Bible
You already said above that HUMAN

but the people on earth they will rule and judge are humans with flesh and blood.
Yet in the same kingdom where flesh and blood can't inherit grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

When I said you don't understand that verse the other time you think I don't know what I was saying.

You don't even understand the Bible and JWs articles.
Yet I've been giving you and your brothers Bible study on this forum.

The kingdom was established for a reason. Daniel 2:44. After it has accomplished its purpose, Jesus will hand over everything to God {the kingdom, his authority..}so that God can rule over ALL. Jesus will be subjected to Him.
Only if you understand yourself and the verse you're quoting.

God Himself will live with the righteous on earth (new earth paradise). Revelation 21;1-5 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
In other word, God will dwell with flesh and blood. So why did you say flesh and blood can't inherit kingdom of heaven the other day? grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin

I did got get your foolishness and I would like you not to spoonfeed me with it in the future smiley
Just search your mind you'll realize that you're enjoying the Bible study. No shame in that! cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Emusan(m): 10:22am On Mar 28, 2022
Janosky:
John 1:1 fact: ho Theos Jehovah his Father.
Theos without definite article ,"a god."
John 14:1 & Acts 12:22-24 Mounce Greek interlinear,Oga & confirm it yourself. grin grin
Hebrew 1:2 fact...
Jesus is God's Son.
God MADE the universe , NOT his Son. grin
Creation through his son... Colossians 1:16.
The same message in Hebrew 1:2.
The Son is agency ("through"wink of creation.
No be rocket science nau grin
That's what God says about The Word, He is the creator. At least you can agree to that. cheesy grin cheesy

The word is God

Psalms 45:6-7 "thy throne given of God", genuine copy of Hebrews 1:8,different from the Trinitarian Fraud of Hebrews 1:8.
Confirmed by your Trinity mentors, in the Catholic church Jerusalem Bible.
Oga, go and confirm it yourself grin grin grin
Time to start jumping from different translations that he doesn't hold as truth cheesy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy

Emusan are you drunk this night?
Why are you LYING?
According to the Screenshots of your fellow 3 deities Polytheists,biblehub, what is the definition of Theos?
"God/a god" , shey?

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No! Remember, it's you people who can get drunk as you want.

According to the definition, "GOD" is there yet you couldn't see that cheesy grin cheesy grin grin cheesy

Or Theos only mean "A god"?

JWs did NOT add anything.
JWs stuck to the correct definition of ho Theos & Theos @ John 1:1.
Emusan is a LIAR grin
JWs abracadabra added to many verses in the scripture. Don't forget Colossians 1:16-18 where the word "OTHER" were added many times cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

That was the definition demonic spirit gave to Johannes Gerber which your organization copied.

Emusan claims are GIBBERISH.
I can feel your pain JaNosense the Mr Gibberish! cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Emusan(m): 6:16pm On Mar 26, 2022
haddeylium:
smiley
Silent mode grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Emusan(m): 6:14pm On Mar 26, 2022
haddeylium:
When I got baptized in my previous religion, they didn’t ask for my permission.
And where was it stated in the scripture that you must be asked for permission before being baptized?


When I got baptized as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I had read the whole Bible, I had studied it, and I had been well informed of all the teachings that JWs consider as the real teachings of the Bible. That knowledge of the Bible was the main feature that led me to the conclusion that that was the true religion.
Well good for you!

Jesus said:

“Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.” (Matthew 28:19, 20)

So,(Whether young or old) Christians should be baptized when they have been taught, when they obey Jesus’ commands and are disciples. At what age can you make this decision by yourself? 15 years old? 18 years old? 13 years old? one week old? cheesy
Sergio
You quoted Matt 28:19-20 yet you can still open your mouth to spew that @color grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

That verse simply put it that BAPTIZED them...(first) before teaching.

The way you people twist scripture eh
Christianity Etc › Re: False Preachers Who Come In Sheep Clothing by Emusan(m): 6:02pm On Mar 26, 2022
Janosky:
Case study: Trinity doctrine.
1.
Jesus teaching; John 20:17.
Paul learnt from Jesus: 1 Corinthians 11:3, 3:23.
Jesus teaching is apostolic teaching.
Yahweh taught John 1:1
Paul learnt from Jesus Heb 1:2, col 1:16
Apostolic teaching is first century Christians teaching

2.
It took 30 years for the Trinity mentors to tag Jesus as "God"
Over 20 years passed before they tagged ghost as "God"
Bible has already called Jesus God

3.
Trinity mentors removed & added to
1 Timothy 3:16 & added to 1John 5:7.
In their Greek lexicon of John 1:1, the Trinity mentors removed a Greek word (g3588) in 2nd sentence of John 1:1.
They didn't remove g3588 from John 4:24 lexicon and John 14:1 & Acts 3:13 lexicons.
Why?
They intended to confuse gullible people with Trinity GIBBERISH.
Your organization added to John 1:1, Col 2:16-18

Change many Bible verses to suit their demonic doctrines just to confuse their worshippers of men grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Go do research & confirm these 3 facts make you no vex for this comment.[/i]
grin grin grin grin grin grin
After your research about these three points, let me know the outcome.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Emusan(m): 5:46pm On Mar 26, 2022
haddeylium:
You clearly do not worth my time.
I'll match you up with these young people in my congregation and allow them school you.
Oh! Wait a minute, they've a better use of their time too cheesy
See excuses cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Are they young people or baptized children grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Emusan(m): 5:44pm On Mar 26, 2022
haddeylium:
A JW that does not know that they have a spokesperson.
Is that one a JW? cheesy
So do JW have a spokesperson or not?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Spokesperson Claims They Do Not Baptist Children by Emusan(m): 5:14pm On Mar 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
That's evidence i'm not one of JWs because up till now i don't know JW's spokesman o
Could that @underlined be a slip of finger or sleep of brain cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Emusan(m): 5:08pm On Mar 26, 2022
Janosky:
Was Paul at John 9:4?

Did Paul join the "WE/People" of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14?
Did Cornelius join the People bearing JEHOVAH'S name @ Acts15:14?

Paul and Cornelius get SENSE pass Emusan and all 3 deities Polytheists.
Emusan too dull . Chai grin grin grin
Still ranting as usual.

To have everlasting life isn't by JOINING ANY GROUP, you can provide your scriptural support.

Everyone who believes in John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31 joins the Group/People of John 9:4 & Acts 15:14.
Polytheists brains can't comprehend that. grin
So John 3:16, John 1:12 & John 20:31 is what your god said people should BELIEVE IN grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin

This JaNosense won't stop to amuse us

Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news joins the Organization , Group/People chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Examples Paul, Cornelius, Timothy, Moses to etc.
But not by joining the organization is why they we have everlasting life but BY BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

You can be jumping up and down, you we never find a single scripture that teaches that by belonging to an organization /group you'll have everlasting life.

If you like rewritten your own verse grin cheesy grin

Was Paul at John 9:4?
Was Cornelius at John 9:4?
No!
But they both BELIEVE IN THE SON that's why they have everlasting life grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The thing dey pain this worshipper of 8 old men

They joined the "WE/"People of Acts 15:14 chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Oga, copy their examples.
Not be bearing jehovah name one will receive everlasting life but by BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS alone and not any organization/group. John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31

Emusan & 3 deities Polytheists just pay lip service to the holy scriptures.
JaNosense the worshipper of 8 old men in Brooklyn I can feel you.
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They always argue against Jesus Christ & the holy scriptures.
TUEH!!!!
But we know the person who'll develop high blood pressure immediately anytime the truth about Jesus and Holy scripture is mentioned.

More severe pain for this worshipper of 8 old men grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers, Do You Believe In The Significance Of Dreams? by Emusan(m): 9:39am On Mar 26, 2022
AuthenticKing:
Good evening everyone.

I searched on Google to see whether I could find any opinions on dreams from a nairalander freethinker (I've not met any freethinker physically in this country) and all I saw were opinions written by the religious especially Christians. I don't buy into their opinions so I couldn't read.

I'm soliciting for the opinions of all freethinkers: atheists, agnostics, humanists, freethinking religionists and traditionalists, etc.
I have had several dreams that I saw the reality instantly and in few days but let me just share these two and try to explain them in your own way.

1. I was in Primary school then. In my dream, I saw a very old woman (though I can recognize her face but in real life, the woman wasn't as old like in the dream) breastfeeding me. Then, I was like as old as I am, how can this old woman have the strength to put me on her laps and started breastfeeding me when I'm not a baby? To cut the long story short, it was also revealed to me in that dream (like scanning through the brea.st) what the woman was feeding me with. Lo and behold, this woman was feeding me dirty water from gutter shocked shocked shocked It was after this revelation I woke up with a very severe stomachache. The pain and discomfort I'm feeling are what woke my grandma up.

She asked me what is wrong I couldn't say anything but I just hold my stomach. (I don't know how she knows what happened to me), she just pick anointing oil, force my mouth open and pour the anointing oil. That was the first time I'll experience miracle. Immediately the anointing oil touches my stomach, my body system just calm down as if I was not the one rolling on bed before.

It was after that I now told her my dream, the next thing she started praising God, and said enemy won't succeed. That I was poisoned in my dream.

To be honest with you, I didn't really understand her point not until the morning when I rush to the toilet and my sh.it was so black as charcoal, I called her to see it, then she said, if not for God, that's how my whole intestines would've burnt which will lead to death. (mind you my grandma isn't an educated person)

2. It was during my NYSC and I was posted to a village in Ugep LGA of Cross River State. On that faithful day, it was Saturday/Sunday night in reality but in the dream it was Friday/Saturday night.

So, in my dream I see two villages fighting each other, the village I was posted to and another village. The fight was so tens that it leads to blood bath, dead bodies everywhere.

But why the fight was still going, I saw the villagers doing all they can to safe the life of ALL the Corps members in their village (my own village). Later, I woke up with heavy heart bit and I got so scared. As the day break, I narrated everything to my fellow Corpers, and I remember saying tomorrow Sunday, I'll tell Pastor about the dream for confirmation (all these still in the dream).

As I wake up in reality, it's Sunday morning which I need to prepare for service. So I went to church as usual without even bother myself with the dream and the service was awesome till it was over.

But something, that left me dumbfounded happened shortly after we share the Grace and everybody was leaving. I just heard Pastor telling everyone to come back and begins to say "Devil you're a liar, you will never succeed in this". After we all come back to our sits, Pastor begins by saying "We need to pray on something, that I had a dream about two villages that will fight each other to the extent that blood will be wasted too much and the dream came to him three times and that nothing will happen to any corps members"

To be honest with you, all the prayer points the man called that day I couldn't pray them because I was just like God! How can two people in different locations have the same dream at the same time?

That single experience keeps my wondering till I got to lodge and I then told my colleagues about it and they too were dumbfounded.

It's not up to two weeks when fight actually broke out in two villages (not the one I am) but not that really far to ours. In fact, Cross River State government has to evacuate the corpers serving in those two villages. Some of the corpers stayed in our lodge before they were giving another PPA yet those corpers confess how the villagers helped them before government came to their rescue.

The truth is, dream might be a mere fictional work of the mind to some people but to me I understand that God can use dream to pass message across.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Emusan(m): 8:33am On Mar 26, 2022
Janosky:
Shame on you, Emusan LIENUS LYING is in your genes grin.
Acts 15:7-9,14 has exposed you !
No wonder your blood is boiling grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

When your ignorance always put you in big shame.

The point isn't there are not PEOPLE for God but are we having EVERLASTING LIFE through people/organization/group? Or must we belong to an organization/group before we have everlasting life?

So you can see how dull you are!

At the meeting, after long discussion, Peter stood and addressed them as follows: “Brothers, you all know that God chose me from among you long ago to preach the Good News to the Gentiles so that they also could believe."

Emusan, Acts 15:7,14 is "Gentiles" singular term?

Is " they" singular?
Verse 9, is "them & " us" singular terms.
Verse 13, is " brothers " a singular term?
I know this will happen and the reason I keep it low at first

Calling you JaNosense, is a hit point for a reason grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Now here is my point of singularity about your post

Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, IS chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17

Only if your dull brain will allow you to understand the @underlined

Like I said, you can keep bringing tons of verses you like but never will they match John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31.

Besides, my main point here, is that we don't need to belong to organization/group to have everlasting life.

According to John 3:16, John 1:12, John 20:31

That is why I gave you a hint how watchtower can twist John 3:16 as they usually do to other scripture like this "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only group/organization, that my chosen people will believe in them and shall not perish but have eternal life." cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

13 When they had finished, James took the floor. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people to bring honor to his name."
I didn't see WHOSOEVER BELIEVE in a group/organization will have everlasting life here grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

The thing dey pepper this worshipper of 8 old men in Brooklyn for body grin grin cheesy grin grin cheesy grin


This guy who calls himself Emusan is just too dull for this conversation.

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After JaNosense has been shifting from verse to verses about single verse John 20:31he earlier quoted but still couldn't find having everlasting life through organization
Christianity Etc › Re: Mercy Of Jesus Christ Crucified Overcomes The Punishment Our Sin Deserves by Emusan(m): 8:07am On Mar 26, 2022
cornelboy:
The level of your intelligence is extremely low.
Says the most brilliant JWs who couldn't address any of my points cheesy grin cheesy grin

Sorry I don't think I would be responding to all your posts.
I know because it's evident that you don't have intellectual capability to do so.

Reasons: 1. if Jesus was in the beginning with God and God sent him to earth and his life wasn't miraculously transferred to Mary's womb, which could it have happened?
Stop typing like a kindergarten.

Jesus was not in the beginning with God but "The Word" was cheesy grin cheesy

I've set another confusion for you.

Besides, you asked for watchtower article I gave it to you. Now from the same article, if Jehovah transferred Jesus life to Mary's womb.

Here are my questions again!
1. Was THE LIFE a whole being/person of the Son
2. If it's just LIFE, what happened to the spiritual body where the LIFE was taken?

2. You asked me this:
And I replied that is there anywhere in the Bible it says spirit beings in heaven can't come to earth?
You still went ahead to ask me the same question:

You don't know that spirit can come to earth abi? Or you don't believe Jesus is coming back in his glory with the kingdom?
Your initial point was that Flesh and blood can't inherit kingdom of heaven, then I went further to show you that if your understanding of that verse means HUMAN won't be in heaven because they are flesh and blood, then NO HUMAN WILL BE on EARTH either because the same kingdom of heaven will extend to earth.

In a nutshell, since Kingdom of heaven will be both in heaven and earth then no flesh and blood will enter it.

Do you get it or I should spoonfeed you further? grin cheesy grin grin cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Emusan(m): 8:04am On Mar 25, 2022
Janosky:
Whosoever from the Jews and Gentiles believe the good news, Acts15:7-9, is chosen to bear Jehovah's name,Acts 15:14-17.

Emusan receive SENSE grin cheesy
If you have sense, you'd have seen this post of yours "is singularity" perhaps individuals but because no iota of sense up there, you won't see it. cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, will God pay everyone with everlasting life?
Emusan too dull grin
If not because you're too dull, did I say God will pay EVERYONE with everlasting life?

Even 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 is still about individuals that is "ANYONE who rejected Christ."

My point is on John 20:31 which says "WHOSOEVER believe" not that you must belong to an organization cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I know you lack simple comprehension.

You see "my servants chosen "(plural for many) @ Isaiah 43, you no believe.
But is John 20:31 about MY SERVANTS or what to do to have everlasting life? cheesy grin cheesy grin

You see "my people chosen" (plural for many) @
2 Chronicles 7:14,& Acts 15:14 you no believe.
The same servants that are still wicked at 2 chronicles 7:14

You forgot to pick your brain from Hall bah

@ John 9:4, [b]Emusan see "WE" (plural for many,no Organization is one person) Emusan no believe.
Oga, your spiritual myopia is luminous. grin cheesy
I've dealt with those verses and the truth is that no one can be compared to John 20:31

Emusan knows that Dangote Organization exist but his 3 deities Polytheists delusion rejects JEHOVAH'S Organization of His people.
It's evident you don't have any meaningful thing to say again.

Dangote isn't about John 20:31 or is it?

At least you can see beyond reasonable doubt that no organization was mentioned in the scripture as John 20:31, 3:16, 1:12 emphasize more on it.

So follower of 8 old men idol worshipper relax your mind cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Mistakes Of Constantine That Birthed The Trinity Doctrine, Paganism With Chr by Emusan(m): 8:01pm On Mar 24, 2022
Lol....Janosense doesn't have any meaningful thing to say again grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Janosky:
Is Organization just one person? grin grin
No! But WHOSOEVER wasn't about specific group or organization.

Will Dangote Organization pay Emusan salary when Emusan don't work for him?
Dangote will pay me if Dangote ever makes a claim that he is ready to pay EVERYONE IN NIGERIA.

Can you show us where Jehovah said He will only grant everlasting life to those who work for him?

Only JEHOVAH'S servants are members of His Organization to receive everlasting life.
But you don't have any scripture to back it up cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Pronto!
Emusan & 3 deities Polytheists are too dull.[/b].
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When the great JaNosense is short of words and verses grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

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