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MaxInDHouse:You can't deny you don't know the name of our church. ![]() |
RealTalker02:No the spirit of God isn't in animal. Unless if you classify yourself as animal ![]() The last part shows that you know spirit and breath are of two different things. Does it mean a being is inside of them?You still haven't given us the full meaning of Rauch. ![]() Psalm 104:29 is in your Bible, Ruach was translated breath. Deal with it.Does it mean Ruach always MEANS BREATH? Until you deal with that dishonesty in you, you can't get it 'His spirit goes out, that day his thoughts perish 'I know you lack simple comprehension but I'll help you. His thought perish mean the person doesn't have power over his thought as the only thing left is judgement. 1Pet 3:19 did not ever say Spirit went to hell. Nowhere in the Bible is spirit of man said to be a being that goes anywhere. That day his thoughts perish.So who are the one in prison in that verse? His thought perish because nothing done after that counts only judgment next. Get that into your empty skull |
RealTalker02:I know you'll never address my point. No wonder you keep jumping from different verse to another. The early verse you quoted proved that spirit and breath of life are used in the same verse which means they are different. ![]() |
RealTalker02:I have dealt with this long time ago. And no one knows the son except the Father but you claim to know the son today, so are you the Father? ![]() |
RealTalker02:Olodo.... But other verses distinguished spirit from breath of life. Your answer is in eccl 3:21 ![]() |
RealTalker02:Says the dumb one! It's evident that breath is different from spirit “If He should determine to do so, If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His breath, All flesh would perish together, And man would return to dust." Definitely, both the Spirit of God and breath are in human. Ruach when translated to English means breath, animals possess ruach too, How does that sound to you ? Animals possess a being inside them?To even say when Ruach translated to English means breath shows the dishonesty in you. What return to God is breath.What returned to GOD is Spirit Delusion is when you think it means something else beyond breath.Delusion is when you substitute it for breath when in true meaning it's spirit. Let me use your analogy:The being also went to heaven ![]() there is no single scripture that ever said Spirit went to hell.[/uote]Well, to you it might be but not according to the scripture. and an insult to God Almighty because it means final judgment is when God tried to correct his mistakes in the first judgement.So you're God to have known this ![]() Yet God himself through inspired writers wrote that there will be judgment for both the dead and the living. |
Janosky:Where are the false claims posted by the OP? ![]() Why has mods you're crying to not take any action against the OP ![]() The Jankara market graduate desperately wants every LIE to be true.At least we know the lying liar who is crying to the mods for his lying organization not be exposed Emusan go to "Lancet" & cure your Delusion.I'm sure you've been there, if not you won't know there's a place to cure one ![]() |
cornelboy:Thank you! Just Genesis 2:7 is enough for your dummy brain to understand that Adam was just a physical lifeless body made of clay before Jehovah gave him life by breathing into him.If not because you're so dumb, where was it stated in Genesis that Adam was created from CLAY ![]() Was it Jehovah who breath into him or Jesus? ![]() The breath is same as spirit.Says the deluded one! When it suit you people you'll remove "...of life" Is it The breath or breath of life? If the breath is the same as spirit how come both words were used in the same verse? We all got our life from God's breath/spirit through Adam.And God's spirit is a person ![]() When Adam died, what happened?His body returned to ground to decay while the spirit returned to GOD. The spirit/breath left him and he became lifeless, decayed and returned to dust.Ok This is same for everyone that died, even JesusWho says otherwise? but God raised him back to life. He didn't let Jesus's body decay before he did.Waooooo so God actually raised Jesus' BODY back to life, this is interesting! [31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not leftThe above is enough! God raised Jesus body back to life ![]() ![]() I guess your deluded brothers didn't see that part ![]() |
cornelboy:You're too blind to see that in the scripture ![]() So when Jesus was resurrected to life, his spirit was still in heaven with the Father?Who said this? Can spirit or breath of life live without a body?If not the spirit can't go to heaven. See when a person dies, he dies completely. That's it. No part of him lives elsewhere.Your dumb mind says so not the scripture. Keep believing in fantasy.Just as you keep believing in delusions. ![]() |
cornelboy:It's evident you're so furious like your father the Devil because he knows he has no part in that kingdom ![]() Holy spirit wey ona no get, ona go dè claim am.You're the Holy spirit for you to know we don't have you ![]() It's pure Satan deception sha.You're not the first who will say so, your forefathers told Jesus the same ![]() Na evil spirit fit de make person speak gibberish tongues not the holy spirit of the early church time.You know what your father the Devil is capable of that's why you know what he can do ![]() God will choose only from bornagains i.e poeple baptized by the holy spirit.Which you're not among because the works of your father the Devil manifest in you ![]() |
cornelboy:Who for your time in the first place ![]() The devil is practically your father cos he's the father of lies.Everyone knows this is what JWs represented ![]() When God said Adam would die if he ate of the fruit, he lied and said they won't die.Stop describing your father the Devil for us ![]() |
cornelboy:See this ignoramus! That question should be directed to you not me. Or have you forgotten your initial point that leads to that my post? Anyway, I know you have short memory! Can't God raise him even if every part of him had decayed long ago?The question is what we God raise, since nothing survive at the death? For God to raise people who died 2000 years ago means something is left in them for that to happen, if not what will happen is recreation not resurrection. Resurrection is to raise what DIED not WHAT IS NOT IN EXISTENCE. Pls tell your have baked knowledge to someone else. Your just an empty barrel.When it's obvious you're the one defending your dumb doctrine here ![]() |
RealTalker02:I know it won't be literal since your dumb mind wants it to be. The text confirmed that there's going to be a judgment. Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their NostrilsWhen they keep jumping from different translations to another is then you'll know that they're very confused ![]() It has been established that breath of life and spirit are different, if not using them together in a verse will be grammatical error. The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.Not breath of life again ![]() When you finish keep deceiving yourself, lemme know. The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men. Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?Rauch is not English, translate to English and see how dumb you are. I've answered that several times. • Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.Nonsense as usual! He has to add IN CHRIST glory ![]() So much the liar |
RealTalker02:It's evident you have comprehension issue! Check other translations for better understanding of that verse, the point isn't that there won't be judgment but there will be judgment but the appointed time for that wasn't set, so far this supported my point that both the dead will appear before God on judgement day. Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their NostrilsBut in that verse the distinction was made. So which means spirit is different from breath of Life. "Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22Again, another time Spirit will be distinguished from Breath. The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.You keep exposing your ignorance! How can you provided two separate verses where Spirit and breath were totally used together and you still believe they are the same? ![]() The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men.No! It's the spirit being of the person that died Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?Already answered! Stop repeating question. •Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.The spirit appears before God. So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.You don't understand it, do you? The unrighteous will be resurrected, true or false? Yet you claimed spiritual body is only available at resurrection. So which body will the unrighteous have at resurrection? You can't eat your cake and also have it. |
MaxInDHouse:Another tactics to boycott ![]() You've explained that all spirits both good and evil will go to heaven and face the judgment throne,Go to that thread and address my point there, focus on this one or boycott as usual. so allow me to assimilate that first before bringing another one.Nothing bad in assimilating. I should be the one asking you since you said all spirits will STAND BEFORE THRONE so you should explain which one is still DEAD among those spirits and those that are living!It means both the people who have died will face judgment as well as those who are still alive. The point is, if the dead will appear before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST, and you hold the doctrine of nothing survive after death, so what will appear before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST since Christ will judge both the DEAD and the living? Can something that doesn't exist be judged? |
RealTalker02:I read, do you? “For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.But the text says people will appear before Him for judgment, or you didn't understand that part? Also, short before that verse, verse 14 says "If he fixes his attention* on them, If he gathers their spirit and breath to himself,+" Here Spirit was distinguished from breath ![]() The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems.I think the problem here is you, because I've said earlier that it is the SPIRIT that went to heaven. According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answerThe spirit that returned to God after death. Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ?No! They don't raise in glory but to demnation. So don't deviate from the main point. The dead will APPEAR BEFORE GOD, according to those scriptures. Also, 1 Corinthians 15 never said the spiritual body ONLY BELONG TO SOME PEOPLE but Aall resurrected people. |
MaxInDHouse:Rather your preconceived doctrines are! Jesus taught his listeners in parables {Matthew 13:13, 34}The writer of New Testament specifically mentioned when Jesus spoke in Parables but it's your organization that decided to term any place that doesn't favor them Parable or symbolic ![]() but you want to take it literal so you're totally confused.So why didn't the writer say it's a Parable or symbolic? In fact, many translations will list out Parables of Jesus at back of their translations. What are you insinuating? Go back and read what the Apostles wrote in their letters and see if there is teachings of consciousness of the dead anywhere in their teachings.Very well only you and your people that have been turning a blind eyes to it and give it different meanings like parable, symbolic, not literal ![]() Here are the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles: Jesus: Matthew 12:36-37 ESV "I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” How can non existent dead people give account? Peter: 1 Peter 4:5 ESV "But they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead." The DEAD will give account, how come? Paul: 2 Corinthians 5:10 ESV "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil." Romans 14:10-12 ESV "Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God." Hebrews 4:13 ESV "And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account." John: "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done." They were the ones who listened to Jesus directly so there's no doubt they fully understood him than any of your teachers today. Go and check all their letters if there's any emphasis laid on the condition of the dead as if the dead are conscious in anyway!You can keep twisting it but the truth of the scripture will always stand. Even the Ecclesiastes says the same Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 ESV "The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil." Judgement day is coming when both the living and the dead will give account to God. So how will the dead appear before God if they don't live after death? |
MaxInDHouse:Nobody sees it as wahala except you ![]() [ everybody is going to heaven, their bodies will be in their graves but their spirit will represent them before God's throne (in heaven) so that they will be judged.That's what the scripture says Thanks for your time!You're welcome for your time. ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:I'm always battle ready against the kingdom of your father the Devil ![]() DappaD is right because God's word confirmed that judgment takes place in this planet when the preachers of the Good News comes to you and you make yourself available for the study of God's word.After I've exposed your lies about it. ![]() The symbolic STANDING BEFORE THRONE is when you have to sacrifice your time to find out what God requires of mankind.Another meaning from Mr Practical Application ![]() How many symbolic meaning will you give today ![]() Your patience to humbly give away your precious time when others look at you and think you're wasting your time on what is not necessary is the reason why those angels penning down people's names will WRITE YOUR NAME! Malachi 3:16At least your name is in heaven and not symbolic ![]() So it's like you're standing before an invisible judge when others who had no regards for the Bible will be mocking you, because they can't decipher why you have to sit down like a child humbly listening to what a book says.The most ridiculous about this is that, those verses are talking about INDIVIDUAL giving account and getting their rewards not those who are Jesus followers but you couldn't see that. ![]() That's what it means to stand before the throne my friend, not that you will be taken to a place where you will see the two thieves that died beside Jesus and the people in Noah's day or inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah!You can keep say that to yourself in other to be deceiving yourself. The scripture is cleared on that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE God to ACCOUNT for their deeds, in fact apostle Paul put it better by saying "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* |
TenQ:I have mentioned them before but lemme quote your post again ![]() |
RealTalker02:This scripture is enough for you For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+ 2 Corinthians 5:10 NWT |
MaxInDHouse:No wonder you couldn't answer the question. ![]() You quote the texts but you can't expatiate to drive home your point, that's why you're trying hard to explain but tying yourself more Into the cobweb!Afterall I'm not the one who sees the obvious point but decided to tag it SYMBOLIC ![]() Does "standing before him" means people will literally line up like in the law Court?Whatever standing before him mean to you but the scripture is clear about that. You can also ask you child at home what does standing before him mean? ![]() Well all these are symbolic terms that's why you can't correlate what you read in a place with another,It's symbolic to you because it exposed your fraudulent doctrine. Just remove that word SYMBOLIC which never found in those verses and see the naked truth in front of you. so you have to ignore what you don't understand and hing on to what you can relate with!We know the person who doesn't understand here ![]() I've told you that STANDING BEFORE JESUS' THRONE simply means opportunity to listen to the message of the Good News his disciples are taking up and down.This is laughable ![]() Yet your brother Dappad abi Dapada once created a thread here claiming people standing before the judgment throne are on earth not that the need to be in heaven ![]() Anyways, I know you must twist those verses to suit yourself. Once you've met them and discovered the purpose of their visit the next thing is to meditate on what they said about God's Kingdom,I meet them always and I know they always twist scriptures to suit their demonic doctrines ![]() check yourself if there's anyway you're wanting so that you can make amendments.I'm always doing that Do you? For your information that's why those who have done this could confidently say "we were saved" {Romans 8:24} though they never stood before any judgment throne!I know what next? ![]() |
RealTalker02:Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there. The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted. You make another stupid claim at highlighted, firstly, I need the verse that said this plus send them to their final destination ? What are this destinations?You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD. I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed. And secondly , you are indirectly saying everybody good or bad, has what is called spiritual body since they are spirit personalities appearing before God?I didn't say it rather Bible said so. "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that. Your theology is getting more dumb when you digress and said spirit is not breath of lifeJust because it didn't dance to your tune ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Lol...what does constitution say about someone that steal? A suspect will first be arrested, then charged to court where he will be given a fair trial, it's after he has been found guilty that he will be judged as a condemned criminal. But until then he's just an accused not condemned!Did Nigeria constitution condemn terrorists? But in Jesus' own type of judgment the accused only need to report himself by first acknowledging that he's a wrongdoer, then turn around (repent) of his wrongdoings after listening to what Jesus has to say.Yet Jesus is lying in Matt 12:36 And Paul was also lying in Roman 14:12, 2 Corinthians 5:10 ![]() No wonder you quickly tag it SYMBOLIC ![]() Whoever ignore Jesus' words has already been condemned so there's no further case to be established! John 3:16-18Yet Jesus Himself says people will be judged, He also repeated it through Paul that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE HIM, and finally confirmed it through John in Revelation when John saw "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done." You'll continue to change all those scripture by yourself just because you hate the truth. That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading Sir!Meaning ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:And you called this enlightened ![]() Jesus said:Lol.... anyways, Jesus is right here because those who didn't believe are condemned already but does that means they won't face the judgment to account for their deeds which they did WHILE IN THE BODY? Definitely, scripture is accurate on that. Also, that Nigeria constitution condemned all criminals doesn't mean they won't be charged to court to face judgment. According to Jesus the judgment seat is not in any specific place but symbolic since whoever doesn't believe has already been judged.I'm glad you're the one who INTENTIONALLY added SYMBOLIC not Jesus or Paul in those verses. So if Jesus could clear a thief here on earth and grant him Paradise, even forgive the sins of people here on earth and specifically say no one is greater than John the baptist there giving John the pass mark greater than all those that lived before John, it simply means they have all received their reward through Jesus who is the symbolic throne of God's judgment! Hebrews 1:8I like the way you always dodge scripture just to suit yourself ![]() Remember whoever Jesus grant pardon has already been pardoned and whoever Jesus condemned has already been condemned! Matthew 28:18That doesn't mean INDIVIDUAL won't stand before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST according to what they DID WHILE IN THE BODY. 2 Corinthians 5:10 So only the anointed brothers of Christ who have become Born Again are going to heaven because they will be transformed and given spiritual bodies. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17You forgot to add that only them those scriptures are also talking about ![]() Thanks!You're welcome! |
Very soon JaNosense and MaxinDHouse will soon deny them as part of witnesses ![]() |
achorladey:I have helped you put it the rightr way ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:"Himself" in Romans means in PERSON don't forget. Where does God reside that EVERYONE WILL APPEAR AND STAND BEFORE HIM(GOD)? 2 Corinthians 5:10 says "at the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST" according to the Bible, where does this SEAT OF CHRIST position? |
MaxInDHouse:We're not! It's a matter that has been settled in the scripture since, I'm just giving you Bible expository. So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey?You read it from those scriptures. ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Have done that earlier check it out. Romans 14:12, 2 Corin 5:10, Matt 12:36 and many more |
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