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Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Emusan(m): 5:07pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Ask them say what is the name of their own Church, this is about JW and LDS! cheesy
You can't deny you don't know the name of our church. cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Emusan(m): 5:06pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:
Leave me o. cheesy cheesy
Yet you won't leave cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 5:05pm On May 05, 2022
RealTalker02:
Spirit of God is in animals too Genesis 7:22
And they have breath.
No the spirit of God isn't in animal.

Unless if you classify yourself as animal cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin

The last part shows that you know spirit and breath are of two different things.

Does it mean a being is inside of them?

In the psalms:

All creatures look to you
to give them their food at the proper time.
28 When you give it to them,
they gather it up;
when you open your hand,
they are satisfied with good things.
29 When you hide your face,(C)
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath, [ Ruach ]
they die and return to the dust


If ruach is a being, animals possess it too.
You still haven't given us the full meaning of Rauch. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin



Psalm 104:29 is in your Bible, Ruach was translated breath. Deal with it.
Does it mean Ruach always MEANS BREATH?

Until you deal with that dishonesty in you, you can't get it

'His spirit goes out, that day his thoughts perish '

If his spirit continues to think , and is a person going to heaven, the thought won't have perish.
I know you lack simple comprehension but I'll help you. His thought perish mean the person doesn't have power over his thought as the only thing left is judgement.

1Pet 3:19 did not ever say Spirit went to hell. Nowhere in the Bible is spirit of man said to be a being that goes anywhere. That day his thoughts perish.
So who are the one in prison in that verse?

His thought perish because nothing done after that counts only judgment next.

Get that into your empty skull
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 4:58pm On May 05, 2022
RealTalker02:
Eccl 3:21
Who knows if the human spirit rises upwards and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?”

The writer asked a question, how does this change the Fact that animals possess The same spirit like man. The same Hebrew word Ruach, no distinction.

Verse 19

Surely the fate of human beings(A) is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath ; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless.

Exactly the same. To claim man's own is a being , is to claim animals own is also a being
I know you'll never address my point.

No wonder you keep jumping from different verse to another.

The early verse you quoted proved that spirit and breath of life are used in the same verse which means they are different. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 4:57pm On May 05, 2022
RealTalker02:
Not according to the Bible buddy.

No one knows the Father except the son.

Do you agree the son knows the Father than The spirit. ?
I have dealt with this long time ago.

And no one knows the son except the Father but you claim to know the son today, so are you the Father? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:35pm On May 04, 2022
RealTalker02:
The same verse is a reference to animals, Genesis 7:22 - the question remain, Does it mean animals possess a being that goes to heaven in their nostrils since spirit and breath were used together for them ?
Olodo....

But other verses distinguished spirit from breath of life.

Your answer is in eccl 3:21 grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:27pm On May 04, 2022
RealTalker02:
Person assertion.
Who is closer to God, his spirit or Jesus Christ ?
Both are one! grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:26pm On May 04, 2022
RealTalker02:
The text confirmed my point, Ruach is inside the nostrils, that's breath not a being.
Says the dumb one!

It's evident that breath is different from spirit

“If He should determine to do so,
If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His breath,
All flesh would perish together,
And man would return to dust."


Definitely, both the Spirit of God and breath are in human.

Ruach when translated to English means breath, animals possess ruach too, How does that sound to you ? Animals possess a being inside them?
To even say when Ruach translated to English means breath shows the dishonesty in you.

What return to God is breath.
What returned to GOD is Spirit

Delusion is when you think it means something else beyond breath.
Delusion is when you substitute it for breath when in true meaning it's spirit.

Let me use your analogy:

- it means a being

The being went to heaven, got judgement to hell and the being went to hell.
The being also went to heaven grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy

there is no single scripture that ever said Spirit went to hell.[/uote]

Read 1 Peter 3:19

[quote]the idea of judgement after death is sham,
Well, to you it might be but not according to the scripture.

and an insult to God Almighty because it means final judgment is when God tried to correct his mistakes in the first judgement.
So you're God to have known this cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin

Yet God himself through inspired writers wrote that there will be judgment for both the dead and the living.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Emusan(m): 2:15pm On May 04, 2022
Janosky:
Did this OP post about your false claims?
Where are the false claims posted by the OP? grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Why has mods you're crying to not take any action against the OP grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The Jankara market graduate desperately wants every LIE to be true.
At least we know the lying liar who is crying to the mods for his lying organization not be exposed cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Emusan go to "Lancet" & cure your Delusion.

kpele.
I'm sure you've been there, if not you won't know there's a place to cure one cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 2:12pm On May 04, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol olodo ni é.
Thank you!

Just Genesis 2:7 is enough for your dummy brain to understand that Adam was just a physical lifeless body made of clay before Jehovah gave him life by breathing into him.
If not because you're so dumb, where was it stated in Genesis that Adam was created from CLAY cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Was it Jehovah who breath into him or Jesus? cheesy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

The breath is same as spirit.
Says the deluded one!

When it suit you people you'll remove "...of life"

Is it The breath or breath of life?

If the breath is the same as spirit how come both words were used in the same verse?

We all got our life from God's breath/spirit through Adam.
And God's spirit is a person cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

When Adam died, what happened?
His body returned to ground to decay while the spirit returned to GOD.

The spirit/breath left him and he became lifeless, decayed and returned to dust.
Ok

This is same for everyone that died, even Jesus
Who says otherwise?

but God raised him back to life. He didn't let Jesus's body decay before he did.
Acts 2:31
Waooooo so God actually raised Jesus' BODY back to life, this is interesting!


[31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left
(dead) in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

When Adam died, he became a dead soul.
That's why God said that every soul that sins will die.
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
[4]Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Animals and human have the same life. I mean we got our life from the same source, the breath of God

Genesis 1:24
[24]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature (NEPHESH) after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The same Hebrew word NEPHESH was used to qualify both man and animals.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7]And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (NEPHESH).
The above is enough!

God raised Jesus body back to life cheesy gringrin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

I guess your deluded brothers didn't see that part cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 1:52pm On May 04, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol. So the thief spirit was also in heaven with Jesus spirit that same day Abi?
You're too blind to see that in the scripture cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

So when Jesus was resurrected to life, his spirit was still in heaven with the Father?
Who said this?

Can spirit or breath of life live without a body?
If not the spirit can't go to heaven.

See when a person dies, he dies completely. That's it. No part of him lives elsewhere.
Your dumb mind says so not the scripture.

Keep believing in fantasy.
Just as you keep believing in delusions. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 1:48pm On May 04, 2022
cornelboy:
You have the holy spirit Abi, sebi your born again na? Na you go lead the kingdom don't worry cheesy foolish and arrogant people.
It's evident you're so furious like your father the Devil because he knows he has no part in that kingdom cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Holy spirit wey ona no get, ona go dè claim am.
You're the Holy spirit for you to know we don't have you cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

It's pure Satan deception sha.
You're not the first who will say so, your forefathers told Jesus the same cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Na evil spirit fit de make person speak gibberish tongues not the holy spirit of the early church time.
You know what your father the Devil is capable of that's why you know what he can do grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

God will choose only from bornagains i.e poeple baptized by the holy spirit.
Which you're not among because the works of your father the Devil manifest in you
grin cheesy grin grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 1:42pm On May 04, 2022
cornelboy:
Your the liar here dude. I don't really have your time.
Who for your time in the first place cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

The devil is practically your father cos he's the father of lies.
Everyone knows this is what JWs represented cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

When God said Adam would die if he ate of the fruit, he lied and said they won't die.
Religion today is telling the same lies of old of their mentor and father Satan the devil. They would say if you die, you didn't actually die but continue to exist after death. Una dumb o
Stop describing your father the Devil for us cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 1:39pm On May 04, 2022
cornelboy:
John 5:28
[28]Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son,

Dude does it matter if the person has died and decayed completely or he just died 2 days ago or died like 20 years ago or 2000 years ago?
See this ignoramus! That question should be directed to you not me.

Or have you forgotten your initial point that leads to that my post?

Anyway, I know you have short memory!

Can't God raise him even if every part of him had decayed long ago?
The question is what we God raise, since nothing survive at the death?

For God to raise people who died 2000 years ago means something is left in them for that to happen, if not what will happen is recreation not resurrection. Resurrection is to raise what DIED not WHAT IS NOT IN EXISTENCE.

Pls tell your have baked knowledge to someone else. Your just an empty barrel.
When it's obvious you're the one defending your dumb doctrine here cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 1:33pm On May 04, 2022
RealTalker02:
He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear!
I know it won't be literal since your dumb mind wants it to be.

The text confirmed that there's going to be a judgment.

Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils


" Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22
When they keep jumping from different translations to another is then you'll know that they're very confused grin grin cheesy grin cheesy

It has been established that breath of life and spirit are different, if not using them together in a verse will be grammatical error.

The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.
Not breath of life again grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

When you finish keep deceiving yourself, lemme know.

The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men. Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?
Rauch is not English, translate to English and see how dumb you are.

I've answered that several times.

• Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
NIV

This listed the quality of the Spiritual body

• imperishable

• Raised in Glory
• Raised in power

To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God.
Nonsense as usual!

He has to add IN CHRIST glory cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

So much the liar
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 7:02pm On Apr 20, 2022
RealTalker02:
He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear!
It's evident you have comprehension issue!

Check other translations for better understanding of that verse, the point isn't that there won't be judgment but there will be judgment but the appointed time for that wasn't set, so far this supported my point that both the dead will appear before God on judgement day.

Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils
But in that verse the distinction was made.

So which means spirit is different from breath of Life.

"Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22
Again, another time Spirit will be distinguished from Breath.

The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath.
You keep exposing your ignorance!

How can you provided two separate verses where Spirit and breath were totally used together and you still believe they are the same? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men.
No! It's the spirit being of the person that died

Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ?
Already answered! Stop repeating question.

•Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection.
The spirit appears before God.

So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
NIV

This listed the quality of the Spiritual body

• imperishable

• Raised in Glory

To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God.
You don't understand it, do you?

The unrighteous will be resurrected, true or false?

Yet you claimed spiritual body is only available at resurrection. So which body will the unrighteous have at resurrection?

You can't eat your cake and also have it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 5:55pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Please Emusan i'm still trying to catch my breath with the Jokes and Memes you created on the other thread.
Another tactics to boycott cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

You've explained that all spirits both good and evil will go to heaven and face the judgment throne,
Go to that thread and address my point there, focus on this one or boycott as usual.

so allow me to assimilate that first before bringing another one.
Nothing bad in assimilating.

I should be the one asking you since you said all spirits will STAND BEFORE THRONE so you should explain which one is still DEAD among those spirits and those that are living! cheesy
It means both the people who have died will face judgment as well as those who are still alive.

The point is, if the dead will appear before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST, and you hold the doctrine of nothing survive after death, so what will appear before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST since Christ will judge both the DEAD and the living?

Can something that doesn't exist be judged?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m):
RealTalker02:
You don't read ?
I read, do you?

“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.

Do you read the bold ? He set no time for anyone to appear before him for judgement.
But the text says people will appear before Him for judgment, or you didn't understand that part? cheesy grin cheesy grin

Also, short before that verse, verse 14 says "If he fixes his attention* on them, If he gathers their spirit and breath to himself,+"

Here Spirit was distinguished from breath cheesy grin

The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems.
I think the problem here is you, because I've said earlier that it is the SPIRIT that went to heaven.


According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answer
The spirit that returned to God after death.


Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ?
No! They don't raise in glory but to demnation. So don't deviate from the main point.

The dead will APPEAR BEFORE GOD, according to those scriptures.

Also, 1 Corinthians 15 never said the spiritual body ONLY BELONG TO SOME PEOPLE but Aall resurrected people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 3:49pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The long time church tradition is your problem!
Rather your preconceived doctrines are!

Jesus taught his listeners in parables {Matthew 13:13, 34}
The writer of New Testament specifically mentioned when Jesus spoke in Parables but it's your organization that decided to term any place that doesn't favor them Parable or symbolic cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

but you want to take it literal so you're totally confused.
So why didn't the writer say it's a Parable or symbolic?

In fact, many translations will list out Parables of Jesus at back of their translations. What are you insinuating?

Go back and read what the Apostles wrote in their letters and see if there is teachings of consciousness of the dead anywhere in their teachings.
Very well only you and your people that have been turning a blind eyes to it and give it different meanings like parable, symbolic, not literal cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Here are the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles:

Jesus: Matthew 12:36-37 ESV
"I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

How can non existent dead people give account?

Peter: 1 Peter 4:5 ESV
"But they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead."

The DEAD will give account, how come?

Paul:

2 Corinthians 5:10 ESV
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil."

Romans 14:10-12 ESV
"Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God."

Hebrews 4:13 ESV
"And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account."

John:

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."

They were the ones who listened to Jesus directly so there's no doubt they fully understood him than any of your teachers today. Go and check all their letters if there's any emphasis laid on the condition of the dead as if the dead are conscious in anyway! smiley
You can keep twisting it but the truth of the scripture will always stand.

Even the Ecclesiastes says the same
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 ESV

"The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil."

Judgement day is coming when both the living and the dead will give account to God.

So how will the dead appear before God if they don't live after death?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:27pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala jàre
Nobody sees it as wahala except you grin cheesy grin cheesy

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everybody is going to heaven, their bodies will be in their graves but their spirit will represent them before God's throne (in heaven) so that they will be judged.
That's what the scripture says

Thanks for your time! cheesy
You're welcome for your time. grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:08pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I know you are battle prepared to continue arguing even though what you're saying makes no practical sense to you but since it's what your Pastors taught you you're ever ready to argue in support of it! smiley
I'm always battle ready against the kingdom of your father the Devil cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

DappaD is right because God's word confirmed that judgment takes place in this planet when the preachers of the Good News comes to you and you make yourself available for the study of God's word.
After I've exposed your lies about it. grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

The symbolic STANDING BEFORE THRONE is when you have to sacrifice your time to find out what God requires of mankind.
Another meaning from Mr Practical Application grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

How many symbolic meaning will you give todayhuh cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Your patience to humbly give away your precious time when others look at you and think you're wasting your time on what is not necessary is the reason why those angels penning down people's names will WRITE YOUR NAME! Malachi 3:16
At least your name is in heaven and not symbolic cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

So it's like you're standing before an invisible judge when others who had no regards for the Bible will be mocking you, because they can't decipher why you have to sit down like a child humbly listening to what a book says.
The most ridiculous about this is that, those verses are talking about INDIVIDUAL giving account and getting their rewards not those who are Jesus followers but you couldn't see that. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

That's what it means to stand before the throne my friend, not that you will be taken to a place where you will see the two thieves that died beside Jesus and the people in Noah's day or inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah! grin
You can keep say that to yourself in other to be deceiving yourself.

The scripture is cleared on that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE God to ACCOUNT for their deeds, in fact apostle Paul put it better by saying "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*
Family › Re: Lady Calls Out Her Newly Wedded Husband For Deceiving Her Into Marrying Him by Emusan(m): 2:48pm On Apr 20, 2022
TenQ:
MaxInDHouse:
Janosky:
Over to you. This concerns the only Loving congregation with same mind!
I have mentioned them before but lemme quote your post again cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m):
RealTalker02:
Stand before God in which kind of body , physical is out of it. You are left with spiritual body, this is enough to make you rethink.
This scripture is enough for you

For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+ 2 Corinthians 5:10 NWT
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 2:30pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is why it's rare to see JWs having issues with the investigative department of police, because we know the laws even better than the law enforcement agents! smiley
Guy, the constitution has been written but nobody condemns an accused until he is found GUILTY of the charge! wink
No wonder you couldn't answer the question. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

You quote the texts but you can't expatiate to drive home your point, that's why you're trying hard to explain but tying yourself more Into the cobweb! cheesy
Afterall I'm not the one who sees the obvious point but decided to tag it SYMBOLIC cheesy cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Does "standing before him" means people will literally line up like in the law Court?
Whatever standing before him mean to you but the scripture is clear about that.

You can also ask you child at home what does standing before him mean? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Well all these are symbolic terms that's why you can't correlate what you read in a place with another,
It's symbolic to you because it exposed your fraudulent doctrine. Just remove that word SYMBOLIC which never found in those verses and see the naked truth in front of you.

so you have to ignore what you don't understand and hing on to what you can relate with! cheesy
We know the person who doesn't understand here cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

I've told you that STANDING BEFORE JESUS' THRONE simply means opportunity to listen to the message of the Good News his disciples are taking up and down.
This is laughable cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Yet your brother Dappad abi Dapada once created a thread here claiming people standing before the judgment throne are on earth not that the need to be in heaven cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Anyways, I know you must twist those verses to suit yourself.

Once you've met them and discovered the purpose of their visit the next thing is to meditate on what they said about God's Kingdom,
I meet them always and I know they always twist scriptures to suit their demonic doctrines cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

check yourself if there's anyway you're wanting so that you can make amendments.
I'm always doing that
Do you?

For your information that's why those who have done this could confidently say "we were saved" {Romans 8:24} though they never stood before any judgment throne! wink
I know what next? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 2:19pm On Apr 20, 2022
RealTalker02:
And who said you have to go to heaven to give account ? Your lifestyle on Earth is all God needs.

“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.
Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there.

The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted.

You make another stupid claim at highlighted, firstly, I need the verse that said this plus send them to their final destination ? What are this destinations?
You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD.

I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed.


And secondly , you are indirectly saying everybody good or bad, has what is called spiritual body since they are spirit personalities appearing before God?
I didn't say it rather Bible said so.

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT

If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that.

Your theology is getting more dumb when you digress and said spirit is not breath of life
Just because it didn't dance to your tune cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 12:11pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Funny enough Sir, no constitution condemns an accused until he/she has been judged.
So you've misconstrued it all! cheesy
Lol...what does constitution say about someone that steal?

A suspect will first be arrested, then charged to court where he will be given a fair trial, it's after he has been found guilty that he will be judged as a condemned criminal. But until then he's just an accused not condemned! smiley
Did Nigeria constitution condemn terrorists?

But in Jesus' own type of judgment the accused only need to report himself by first acknowledging that he's a wrongdoer, then turn around (repent) of his wrongdoings after listening to what Jesus has to say.
Yet Jesus is lying in Matt 12:36
And Paul was also lying in Roman 14:12, 2 Corinthians 5:10 cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

No wonder you quickly tag it SYMBOLIC cheesy grin cheesy grin


Whoever ignore Jesus' words has already been condemned so there's no further case to be established! John 3:16-18
Yet Jesus Himself says people will be judged, He also repeated it through Paul that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE HIM, and finally confirmed it through John in Revelation when John saw "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."

You'll continue to change all those scripture by yourself just because you hate the truth.

That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading Sir! smiley
Meaninghuh
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 11:11am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm well let me enlighten you!
And you called this enlightened cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Jesus said:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18
Lol.... anyways, Jesus is right here because those who didn't believe are condemned already but does that means they won't face the judgment to account for their deeds which they did WHILE IN THE BODY? Definitely, scripture is accurate on that.

Also, that Nigeria constitution condemned all criminals doesn't mean they won't be charged to court to face judgment.

According to Jesus the judgment seat is not in any specific place but symbolic since whoever doesn't believe has already been judged.
I'm glad you're the one who INTENTIONALLY added SYMBOLIC not Jesus or Paul in those verses.

So if Jesus could clear a thief here on earth and grant him Paradise, even forgive the sins of people here on earth and specifically say no one is greater than John the baptist there giving John the pass mark greater than all those that lived before John, it simply means they have all received their reward through Jesus who is the symbolic throne of God's judgment! Hebrews 1:8
I like the way you always dodge scripture just to suit yourself cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Remember whoever Jesus grant pardon has already been pardoned and whoever Jesus condemned has already been condemned! Matthew 28:18
That doesn't mean INDIVIDUAL won't stand before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST according to what they DID WHILE IN THE BODY. 2 Corinthians 5:10

So only the anointed brothers of Christ who have become Born Again are going to heaven because they will be transformed and given spiritual bodies. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17
But as for unrepentant wrongdoers they aren't going nowhere, they will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17
You forgot to add that only them those scriptures are also talking about cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Thanks! smiley
You're welcome!
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Very soon JaNosense and MaxinDHouse will soon deny them as part of witnesses cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:35am On Apr 20, 2022
achorladey:
The Lord now JWs knows those who belongs to him.

What part of this statement you don't understand?
I have helped you put it the rightr way cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:29am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Romans 14:12

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10
But I say unto you, That every idle word that, men shall speak, they shall give account thereof, in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36

Please where is it written that they will all go to heaven to receive judgment? smiley
"Himself" in Romans means in PERSON don't forget.

Where does God reside that EVERYONE WILL APPEAR AND STAND BEFORE HIM(GOD)?

2 Corinthians 5:10 says "at the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST" according to the Bible, where does this SEAT OF CHRIST position?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:23am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
We're getting somewhere now.
We're not! It's a matter that has been settled in the scripture since, I'm just giving you Bible expository.

So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey? smiley
You read it from those scriptures. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:17am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
"Going to heaven to stand before God"

Can you quote a single verse in any version of your choice where that is explicitly stated? grin
Have done that earlier check it out.

Romans 14:12, 2 Corin 5:10, Matt 12:36 and many more

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