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FamilyRe: Lady Calls Out Her Newly Wedded Husband For Deceiving Her Into Marrying Him by Emusan(m): 2:48pm On Apr 20, 2022
TenQ:
MaxInDHouse:
Janosky:
Over to you. This concerns the only Loving congregation with same mind!
I have mentioned them before but lemme quote your post again cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m):
RealTalker02:
Stand before God in which kind of body , physical is out of it. You are left with spiritual body, this is enough to make you rethink.
This scripture is enough for you

For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+ 2 Corinthians 5:10 NWT
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 2:30pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is why it's rare to see JWs having issues with the investigative department of police, because we know the laws even better than the law enforcement agents! smiley
Guy, the constitution has been written but nobody condemns an accused until he is found GUILTY of the charge! wink
No wonder you couldn't answer the question. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

You quote the texts but you can't expatiate to drive home your point, that's why you're trying hard to explain but tying yourself more Into the cobweb! cheesy
Afterall I'm not the one who sees the obvious point but decided to tag it SYMBOLIC cheesy cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Does "standing before him" means people will literally line up like in the law Court?
Whatever standing before him mean to you but the scripture is clear about that.

You can also ask you child at home what does standing before him mean? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Well all these are symbolic terms that's why you can't correlate what you read in a place with another,
It's symbolic to you because it exposed your fraudulent doctrine. Just remove that word SYMBOLIC which never found in those verses and see the naked truth in front of you.

so you have to ignore what you don't understand and hing on to what you can relate with! cheesy
We know the person who doesn't understand here cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

I've told you that STANDING BEFORE JESUS' THRONE simply means opportunity to listen to the message of the Good News his disciples are taking up and down.
This is laughable cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Yet your brother Dappad abi Dapada once created a thread here claiming people standing before the judgment throne are on earth not that the need to be in heaven cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Anyways, I know you must twist those verses to suit yourself.

Once you've met them and discovered the purpose of their visit the next thing is to meditate on what they said about God's Kingdom,
I meet them always and I know they always twist scriptures to suit their demonic doctrines cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

check yourself if there's anyway you're wanting so that you can make amendments.
I'm always doing that
Do you?

For your information that's why those who have done this could confidently say "we were saved" {Romans 8:24} though they never stood before any judgment throne! wink
I know what next? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 2:19pm On Apr 20, 2022
RealTalker02:
And who said you have to go to heaven to give account ? Your lifestyle on Earth is all God needs.

“For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible.
Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there.

The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted.

You make another stupid claim at highlighted, firstly, I need the verse that said this plus send them to their final destination ? What are this destinations?
You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD.

I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed.


And secondly , you are indirectly saying everybody good or bad, has what is called spiritual body since they are spirit personalities appearing before God?
I didn't say it rather Bible said so.

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT

If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that.

Your theology is getting more dumb when you digress and said spirit is not breath of life
Just because it didn't dance to your tune cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 12:11pm On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Funny enough Sir, no constitution condemns an accused until he/she has been judged.
So you've misconstrued it all! cheesy
Lol...what does constitution say about someone that steal?

A suspect will first be arrested, then charged to court where he will be given a fair trial, it's after he has been found guilty that he will be judged as a condemned criminal. But until then he's just an accused not condemned! smiley
Did Nigeria constitution condemn terrorists?

But in Jesus' own type of judgment the accused only need to report himself by first acknowledging that he's a wrongdoer, then turn around (repent) of his wrongdoings after listening to what Jesus has to say.
Yet Jesus is lying in Matt 12:36
And Paul was also lying in Roman 14:12, 2 Corinthians 5:10 cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

No wonder you quickly tag it SYMBOLIC cheesy grin cheesy grin


Whoever ignore Jesus' words has already been condemned so there's no further case to be established! John 3:16-18
Yet Jesus Himself says people will be judged, He also repeated it through Paul that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE HIM, and finally confirmed it through John in Revelation when John saw "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."

You'll continue to change all those scripture by yourself just because you hate the truth.

That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading Sir! smiley
Meaninghuh
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 11:11am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm well let me enlighten you!
And you called this enlightened cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Jesus said:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18
Lol.... anyways, Jesus is right here because those who didn't believe are condemned already but does that means they won't face the judgment to account for their deeds which they did WHILE IN THE BODY? Definitely, scripture is accurate on that.

Also, that Nigeria constitution condemned all criminals doesn't mean they won't be charged to court to face judgment.

According to Jesus the judgment seat is not in any specific place but symbolic since whoever doesn't believe has already been judged.
I'm glad you're the one who INTENTIONALLY added SYMBOLIC not Jesus or Paul in those verses.

So if Jesus could clear a thief here on earth and grant him Paradise, even forgive the sins of people here on earth and specifically say no one is greater than John the baptist there giving John the pass mark greater than all those that lived before John, it simply means they have all received their reward through Jesus who is the symbolic throne of God's judgment! Hebrews 1:8
I like the way you always dodge scripture just to suit yourself cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Remember whoever Jesus grant pardon has already been pardoned and whoever Jesus condemned has already been condemned! Matthew 28:18
That doesn't mean INDIVIDUAL won't stand before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST according to what they DID WHILE IN THE BODY. 2 Corinthians 5:10

So only the anointed brothers of Christ who have become Born Again are going to heaven because they will be transformed and given spiritual bodies. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17
But as for unrepentant wrongdoers they aren't going nowhere, they will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17
You forgot to add that only them those scriptures are also talking about cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Thanks! smiley
You're welcome!
FamilyRe: Lady Calls Out Her Newly Wedded Husband For Deceiving Her Into Marrying Him by Emusan(m):
Very soon JaNosense and MaxinDHouse will soon deny them as part of witnesses cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:35am On Apr 20, 2022
achorladey:
The Lord now JWs knows those who belongs to him.

What part of this statement you don't understand?
I have helped you put it the rightr way cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:29am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Romans 14:12

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10
But I say unto you, That every idle word that, men shall speak, they shall give account thereof, in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36

Please where is it written that they will all go to heaven to receive judgment? smiley
"Himself" in Romans means in PERSON don't forget.

Where does God reside that EVERYONE WILL APPEAR AND STAND BEFORE HIM(GOD)?

2 Corinthians 5:10 says "at the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST" according to the Bible, where does this SEAT OF CHRIST position?
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:23am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
We're getting somewhere now.
We're not! It's a matter that has been settled in the scripture since, I'm just giving you Bible expository.

So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey? smiley
You read it from those scriptures. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:17am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
"Going to heaven to stand before God"

Can you quote a single verse in any version of your choice where that is explicitly stated? grin
Have done that earlier check it out.

Romans 14:12, 2 Corin 5:10, Matt 12:36 and many more
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:15am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry about more verses,
Don't hide here! Are those verses not in your translation?

OLAADEGBU should learn something from you:
He knows already so don't bother yourself about him

Both thieves are going to heaven since their bodies will be buried and their SPIRIT will go and represent them in heaven.
Yes and they'll both receive their judgement.

So what favour is Jesus' promise to the other guy? cheesy
That he will be with Him (Jesus) in paradise. That is He will be where Jesus would be while the other one will be sent to his own abode.
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:08am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
No worry jàre, Emusan said everybody both good and evil are going to heaven! cheesy
Yes going to heaven to stand before God.

Or you didn't read it your translation?
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 10:06am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Why are you always angry nah?
I just marveled at the HIGH level of your wisdom! cheesy
Angry shocked shocked shocked shocked

I'm one of the happiest person on earth anytime any day grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Well your organization possesses the same wisdom according to this Bible verse

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+" NWT 2 Corin 5:10

Pay attention to that @underlined sha

If you need more verse I'm at your service grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So everybody good or evil is going to heaven shey?

Walahi talahi this is tiri much fah! cheesy
You have finally crawled out of your shameless hole grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

But even at that your translation also support it

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*" NWT 2 Corin 5:10
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:44am On Apr 20, 2022
RealTalker02:
Spirit means breath of life in that context, study
In other words the breath of Life of the wicked also goes to heaven cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The spirit can't be breath of life because breath of Life isn't conscious to give account oof individual.

"Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God" Rom 14:12

Anything other than breath means people go to heaven, either wicked or good. Which is the dumb theology you are peddling
But your dumb theology above is glaring grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Anyways, everyone goes to heaven at death but God sent them to their final destination.

If not scripture won't record that ALL MUST GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD. Romans 14:12

If people didn't go to heaven, how will that possible?
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2022
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:09am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Oh thank you Emusan! cheesy
You're welcome MaxinDHouse
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 9:02am On Apr 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Why must it be only Jesus that you think should have a say regarding the religion doing the right thing?
Should it have been you? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God?
because they know that is left for God to do since they are not God, they have no power to do so.

So anybody claiming to know the people practicing pure worship simply equating him/herself to be God.

That's why it's on the judgment day everything will be laid opened. Why because know man has the knowledge and only Jesus knows every man's heart and deed.

If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say?
No wonder you can't point to a single verse where Bible talk about this SPECIFIC GROUP. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant! smiley
After you said, "Jesus claimed to know it all" you still went further to say "if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevanct" does this make sense?

This very statement is strictly against your posit because if Jesus claimed to know it all, then Jesus should have spoken about the specific group. cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 8:52am On Apr 20, 2022
RealTalker02:
Do you really peddle this weak and dumb idea?
No! Though it's weak and dumb to you.

Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind.
You're right here! But why did you go further to state the below?

It's like you're confused

This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven.
You said above and I quote "Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death"

So is EVERY MAN'S SPIRIT NOT their own self or what are you insinuating?

Definitely, everybody goes to heaven at death cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Emusan(m): 4:24pm On Apr 19, 2022
Janosky:
The renowned Medical Journal, "The Lancet", has debunked these misleading claims intended to malign Jehovah's servants.

Nairaland Moderators,why do you permit this fellow to continuously violate Nairaland Rule 8?
This one here is really pained to marrow cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Always cry like a baby to mods, no mods on nairaland will deliver you JWs from their failed prophecies and many errors of the past grin cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

TUEH !!!!!!
Really pained you, Pele grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Emusan(m): 3:56pm On Apr 19, 2022
haekymbahd:
Apostle Paul claims Work is useless only Faith is required to inherit eternal life.
It just so unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about.

You lied that Paul claims "WORK" is useless.

From the Scripture you cited, it was "work of THE LAW" that keeps coming up. So how did you reduce it to just WORK?

Could it be ignorance or dishonest in you?

New King James Version
Galatians 2 vs 16
knowing that a man is not justified by the works of THE LAW but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works OF THE LAW; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
Look at the @color parts and see whether you understand what you're saying or just decided to attack a strawman argument.

Now James beleives otherwise now James was said to be brother of Jesus while Apostle never met Jesus while on earth he said:

New King James Version
James 2
14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?

17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
What James and Paul are addressing are of two different things.

Paul is teaching transition from the old LAW to NEW CHRIST JESUS while James is teaching on evidence of faith through work

What did Jesus really say about this do christians work?

Mathew 5: 18 For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things (it foreshadows) are accomplished.

19 Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven

What did Jesus really teach?
Your answer is in that @color part, even though you quoted that scripture but it's evident you don't understand what you quoted.

Go and search on articles that have dealt with "The Law in foreshadow of Christ Jesus."

Or better read this epic one Here!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 3:37pm On Apr 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Are you also here to catch fun like your comrades?
And what is your problem with that?

Whether you were given a proper burial or died in an ocean or burnt to ashes, death is death. Your automatically in your grave.
Imagine see nonsense talk.

But you claimed everyone will go to grave.
cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

But God has the power to raise you up with a perfect new body in the future.
So what will God raise if the body has rotten and nothing survive it?

What fits this your description is RECREATION which Bible never talked about.

When God say the wicked will die, he really mean it. They won't continue to live in any imaginary hell fire like religion says today.
Your obsession with what RELIGION SAYS today is what is keeping you in perpetual bondage of slavery to those 8 lying old men in Warwick.

Yet religion is doing great for Jesus winning more souls than your demonic organization couldn't achieve for over 100years.
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 3:30pm On Apr 19, 2022
cornelboy:
How does Satan have the same believe like I do, is he now a JW?
Ask him he's your father

I try to help you and say that Satan belief...:
Anyways, you're not the first lying liar JWs cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

That's not where our discussion about Satan started.

And you said:

After saying this;
Still jumping like kangaroo

Are you okay? Why you keep lying?
Yes! You're not okay

The spirit of your father the Devil isn't in my so I'm not a liar like JWs

Who's the empty skull, me or you?
Who's jumping up and down like kangaroo, you or me?
E pain am cheesy grin grin grin cheesy grin grin

That's how you think.

I never said anything like that.
Denying time has come cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin

When you said "Satan believe in the Bible"
I gave you the right response saying his beliefs are nothing, he's bound for destruction and doomed. Knowing and having the truth can't save him.
Lying liar, check from the beginning of our discussion.

But you have been here jumping up and down comparing my belief with that of Satan's.
I didn't! Since your brain is too dull to comprehend things, that what is causing you this body painment now cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

And I have asking you, is Satan now a JW?
He is the leader of JWs

Does he have the same believe as you do?
Me and your father the Devil have nothing in common.

You will always wallow in your foolishness and pride.
Says Mr sense whose skull is full of dust cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by Emusan(m): 3:20pm On Apr 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay so your not interested in the new word Jesus was talking about right?
Your opinion!

Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?
And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?
What is he saying here Mr Sense? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?
Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock

It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.
Na you them dé find?
You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find"

So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose?

Can you see how nitwit you are?

You too will say you have the holy spirit like this o cheesy cheesy
Don't be decieved, you don't have it.
Thanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit.

Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.
So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.
How does correlate with my pist

Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.
Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread.

I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.
Only the JWs have the whole thing figured out.
Your opinion cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Lied When He Promised The Thief Beside Him Heaven! by Emusan(m): 3:09pm On Apr 19, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay show me where the Bible says that paradise is heaven.
Were you blind when you quoted my post?
because if you're not you should see this

2 Corinthians 12:4 4 who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say. NWT

If the comma is before today, your translation portrays Jesus as a liar cos he never went to heaven that day.
Jesus went to heaven that same day, or wasn't He committed His SPIRIT to Jehovah? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Read Bible you won't.

He was dead in the grave for three days and later spent 40 days on earth after God raised him up before he ascended into heaven.
So His spirit He committed into His Father's hand was where, in the grave with Him? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Freethinkers, Do You Believe In The Significance Of Dreams? by Emusan(m): 9:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
AuthenticKing:
Well interesting
Ok

Before the coming of Christianity to Nigeria, we had the traditional religion that our forefathers practiced with so much devotion and reverence. They had so much superstitious beliefs that seemed so realistic and true to them. They saw their gods as the most powerful, not until when Christian and Muslim missionaries came with their religion, demonized ours and many of you now see it as evil and the foreign religions as light.
I don't see the correlation between this your point and my post or the thread as a whole.

Suddenly, the gods our forefathers extolled as powerful gods are now seems as man made powerless gods that can easily be destroyed by the Christian God (let me focus on Christianity since you're a Christian)
So what is my business with that?

If the gods of our forefathers extolled as powerful as you think, let them fight the Christian GOD and dethroned Him.

Or you see anything wrong in that?

The truth is that substitution techniques were used in such a way that some practices of the traditional religion were replaced with Christians (and Muslim) practices but it's just that the later were seen as the light and the truth.
Well your opinion, the gods you're talking about are beings, if they feel they were substituted for another god let them judge the people they are gods over or come together to fight for their right against the Christian GOD.

Or are you the one they send to fight for them?

But why am I writing that above? If you were still living in those times. The spiritual explanations that would have been given to you by both your grandma and pastor or any other person would have been connected to the traditional practices of those periods and their gods.
Where did I talk about SPIRITUAL explanation in my post?

I said I dreamt and they COME TO REALITY.

Same would have happen if you were raised as a Hindu or Buddhist or Muslim or Jew especially if you were raised in countries where those religions are pre-eminent.
Are you sure you understand my post or you just decided to throw out your own point using my post?

But all these religions and superstitions are man-made (I know you wouldn't agree with me). These religions and superstitions were invented to explain man's deepest and unexplainable questions about life and the universe and to some extent, I've never been against them but detest the extremities of their practices.
What is superstition in my post?

You created this thread seeking for people's opinions about Meaning OF DREAM, I shared my own experiences yet you're tagging it as SUPERSTITION.

Dreams are subconscious realities and whether you believe they come from God or anyone, it's the same reality expressed in different ways.
Yet you're seeking people's opinions on dream when I didn't even have give you any explanation but my own personal experience

If you're comfortable with the diabolical explanations that come with dreams, I don't buy into it.
Can you tell me the diabolical explanation in my narrative?

I'm asking the question on the OP on Nairaland because I want to hear from those that have transcended dogma and superstition so I could learn more from them.
Yet you could not explain how my own experiences mean superstition as I shared here.

Thanks for your response anyways.
You're welcome!
Christianity EtcRe: The Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 9:04pm On Apr 17, 2022
TenQ:
What did Jesus Himself say:
Jesus statement has no effect on them even though they claimed they are the real friends of Jesus

Jesus said that He wasn't a Spirit but Flesh and Blood
Luke 24:36-39.
"Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, "Peace to you." But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen A SPIRIT. And He said to them, "Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, [b]THAT IT IS I MYSELF./b] Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.""
Look at the @underlined phrases very well.

How can Jesus say "IT IS I MYSELF"?

I use to say that only a poor English student will read this statement of Jesus Christ and give it another meaning.

what the desciples thought they saw was a SPIRIT (which they will be right in the first place if Jesus is actually a SPIRIT)

So why would Jesus take His time to correct that impression of not being a SPIRIT but FLESH when He is ACTUALLY A SPIRIT?

Is the mystery any JWs can't solve.

The physical Body of Christ was indeed raised in power according to 1Corinthians 15:42-45
1. Not subject to pain (in spite of the wounds)
2. Not subject to physical limitations (can appear and disappear at will)
3. Not subject to death again
They will never understand that 1 Corinthians 15:42-45 despite the fact that they use it to proof Jesus as a spirit

But how to understand those statements of Paul? Simply substitute "It" with what Paul was describing and ask them, is it correct?

For example:

1Corinthians 15:42-45
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it(The body) is raised imperishable; 43 it(The body) is sown in dishonor, it(The body) is raised in glory; it(The body) is sown in weakness, it(The body) is raised in power; 44 it(The body) is sown a natural body, it(The body) is raised a spiritual body.


What was sown in perishable?
What was sown in dishonour?
What was sown in weakness?
What was sown in natural body?

This same "thing" that was sown is that which was raised imperishable, raised in glory, raised in power and raised as a spiritual body (a body like that of the resurrected Christ with no physical limitations.)
This simple is too hard for them to comprehend.


If Jesus was resurrected as a spirit, where then was His physical body after burial?
Jehovah destroyed it.

Yet they can quote Psalm 16:10 cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 7:57pm On Apr 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
In as much as i love sharing my time with people who wants to learn or say what they know, i easily get pissed off with those using abusive speeches.
Yet you welcome your brothers who are abusive grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

So Mr Emusan do you want to have a tactful conversation having to do with reasoning from the scriptures or you just want to abuse based on the attitude of some you've been chatting with?
Who asked you?

Leave matter for Mathias, nobody begs for your reply. All these your tactics doesn't work on me.

If you want a tactful conversation then i will oblige so we can see that the resurrection Paul was talking about here is not for all! undecided
Story....

If you can't reply my post nobody will arrest you.

Just press ignore button cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 7:41pm On Apr 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 1Corinthians 15:42-45 Revised Standard Version

Who is the last Adam that never raised in his PHYSICAL BODY but in a SPIRITUAL BODY so that he became a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT? smiley
Is this verse ONLY talking about Jesus resurrection or resurrection of all dead people?

But see the way you later link this ONLY to Jesus resurrection which supposed to be FOR ALL RESURRECTION cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Let's explore those verses above:

"So is it with the resurrection of the dead."

Meaning ALL the DEAD.

"What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable."

Which means the same body that is sown the same is RAISED

"It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory."

The same body sown the same raised in glory

It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.

The same body the same raised in power

"It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body."

So do you agree that ALL RESURRECTION will be raised in spiritual body?

"If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written"

Which means all resurrected people will have spiritual body grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit
Which means all resurrected people will became a life-giving spirit too, do you agree?
Christianity EtcRe: Daddyfreeze Slams The Church's Inability To Resurrect Singer Osinachi by Emusan(m): 7:14pm On Apr 17, 2022
genkins:
But all the people whom Jesus met were healed and all those who asked him to help resurrect thier loved ones were resurrected.
@color is pure lies.

When the pharisees asked Him for a miracle He didn't

People like you would have said it's because He is fake that's why He couldn't do miracle in their presence
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Emusan(m): 5:55pm On Apr 17, 2022
Janosky:
Colossians 1:15" Jesus is the first born of every Creature.
1 Corinthians 1:24 & Proverbs 8:22-30,"the Wisdom/Craftsman created by God as the first of God's works."
"The Wisdom" refers to Jesus Christ as
"The Word" refers to Jesus Christ.
Emusan Lienus grin
Yes He is the first born of every creature, but not the first CREATED of every creature. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Sifia pains of 3 deities polytheist grin

His GIBBERISH is not in any Greek Bible textsgrin
So the verse I provided was from Japanese Bible, this worshipper of 8 lying old men self, anyways I understand your frustration.

"Ho Theos is the Head of Christ", 1 Corinthians 11:3 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible.
Nobody disagree on that JaNosense grin grin cheesy gringrin cheesy grin

Solid Evidence that Paul & Philipians 2:6 is in Concord with 1 Corinthians 11:3.
Apostle Paul disgraced Emusan Lienus tay tay grin cheesy
That phi 2:6 is still giving you severe pain because Christ is equal to God cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Apostle Paul who wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Philipians 2:6 the proof Mr Lienus lacks " simple comprehension", conflicting Jesus proof at John 14:28.
At least you can't disprove Phil 2:6 of Jesus having equality with God as confirmed by Paul.

Your LYING claim is not in any Greek Bible texts.
Oga, continue to console yourself grin grin.
Phi 2 is in Watchtower Bible I guess cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

We know the great consoler here cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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