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TenQ:I have mentioned them before but lemme quote your post again ![]() |
RealTalker02:This scripture is enough for you For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+ 2 Corinthians 5:10 NWT |
MaxInDHouse:No wonder you couldn't answer the question. ![]() You quote the texts but you can't expatiate to drive home your point, that's why you're trying hard to explain but tying yourself more Into the cobweb!Afterall I'm not the one who sees the obvious point but decided to tag it SYMBOLIC ![]() Does "standing before him" means people will literally line up like in the law Court?Whatever standing before him mean to you but the scripture is clear about that. You can also ask you child at home what does standing before him mean? ![]() Well all these are symbolic terms that's why you can't correlate what you read in a place with another,It's symbolic to you because it exposed your fraudulent doctrine. Just remove that word SYMBOLIC which never found in those verses and see the naked truth in front of you. so you have to ignore what you don't understand and hing on to what you can relate with!We know the person who doesn't understand here ![]() I've told you that STANDING BEFORE JESUS' THRONE simply means opportunity to listen to the message of the Good News his disciples are taking up and down.This is laughable ![]() Yet your brother Dappad abi Dapada once created a thread here claiming people standing before the judgment throne are on earth not that the need to be in heaven ![]() Anyways, I know you must twist those verses to suit yourself. Once you've met them and discovered the purpose of their visit the next thing is to meditate on what they said about God's Kingdom,I meet them always and I know they always twist scriptures to suit their demonic doctrines ![]() check yourself if there's anyway you're wanting so that you can make amendments.I'm always doing that Do you? For your information that's why those who have done this could confidently say "we were saved" {Romans 8:24} though they never stood before any judgment throne!I know what next? ![]() |
RealTalker02:Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there. The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted. You make another stupid claim at highlighted, firstly, I need the verse that said this plus send them to their final destination ? What are this destinations?You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD. I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed. And secondly , you are indirectly saying everybody good or bad, has what is called spiritual body since they are spirit personalities appearing before God?I didn't say it rather Bible said so. "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that. Your theology is getting more dumb when you digress and said spirit is not breath of lifeJust because it didn't dance to your tune ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Lol...what does constitution say about someone that steal? A suspect will first be arrested, then charged to court where he will be given a fair trial, it's after he has been found guilty that he will be judged as a condemned criminal. But until then he's just an accused not condemned!Did Nigeria constitution condemn terrorists? But in Jesus' own type of judgment the accused only need to report himself by first acknowledging that he's a wrongdoer, then turn around (repent) of his wrongdoings after listening to what Jesus has to say.Yet Jesus is lying in Matt 12:36 And Paul was also lying in Roman 14:12, 2 Corinthians 5:10 ![]() No wonder you quickly tag it SYMBOLIC ![]() Whoever ignore Jesus' words has already been condemned so there's no further case to be established! John 3:16-18Yet Jesus Himself says people will be judged, He also repeated it through Paul that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE HIM, and finally confirmed it through John in Revelation when John saw "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done." You'll continue to change all those scripture by yourself just because you hate the truth. That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading Sir!Meaning ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:And you called this enlightened ![]() Jesus said:Lol.... anyways, Jesus is right here because those who didn't believe are condemned already but does that means they won't face the judgment to account for their deeds which they did WHILE IN THE BODY? Definitely, scripture is accurate on that. Also, that Nigeria constitution condemned all criminals doesn't mean they won't be charged to court to face judgment. According to Jesus the judgment seat is not in any specific place but symbolic since whoever doesn't believe has already been judged.I'm glad you're the one who INTENTIONALLY added SYMBOLIC not Jesus or Paul in those verses. So if Jesus could clear a thief here on earth and grant him Paradise, even forgive the sins of people here on earth and specifically say no one is greater than John the baptist there giving John the pass mark greater than all those that lived before John, it simply means they have all received their reward through Jesus who is the symbolic throne of God's judgment! Hebrews 1:8I like the way you always dodge scripture just to suit yourself ![]() Remember whoever Jesus grant pardon has already been pardoned and whoever Jesus condemned has already been condemned! Matthew 28:18That doesn't mean INDIVIDUAL won't stand before the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST according to what they DID WHILE IN THE BODY. 2 Corinthians 5:10 So only the anointed brothers of Christ who have become Born Again are going to heaven because they will be transformed and given spiritual bodies. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17You forgot to add that only them those scriptures are also talking about ![]() Thanks!You're welcome! |
Very soon JaNosense and MaxinDHouse will soon deny them as part of witnesses ![]() |
achorladey:I have helped you put it the rightr way ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:"Himself" in Romans means in PERSON don't forget. Where does God reside that EVERYONE WILL APPEAR AND STAND BEFORE HIM(GOD)? 2 Corinthians 5:10 says "at the judgment SEAT OF CHRIST" according to the Bible, where does this SEAT OF CHRIST position? |
MaxInDHouse:We're not! It's a matter that has been settled in the scripture since, I'm just giving you Bible expository. So both the good and bad will go to heaven, but then stand before God's throne, receive judgment and each will be sent to their abode right there in heaven, shey?You read it from those scriptures. ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Have done that earlier check it out. Romans 14:12, 2 Corin 5:10, Matt 12:36 and many more |
MaxInDHouse:Don't hide here! Are those verses not in your translation? OLAADEGBU should learn something from you:He knows already so don't bother yourself about him Both thieves are going to heaven since their bodies will be buried and their SPIRIT will go and represent them in heaven.Yes and they'll both receive their judgement. So what favour is Jesus' promise to the other guy?That he will be with Him (Jesus) in paradise. That is He will be where Jesus would be while the other one will be sent to his own abode. |
MaxInDHouse:Yes going to heaven to stand before God. Or you didn't read it your translation? |
MaxInDHouse:Angry I'm one of the happiest person on earth anytime any day ![]() Well your organization possesses the same wisdom according to this Bible verse "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+" NWT 2 Corin 5:10 Pay attention to that @underlined sha If you need more verse I'm at your service ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:You have finally crawled out of your shameless hole ![]() But even at that your translation also support it "For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*" NWT 2 Corin 5:10 |
RealTalker02:In other words the breath of Life of the wicked also goes to heaven ![]() The spirit can't be breath of life because breath of Life isn't conscious to give account oof individual. "Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God" Rom 14:12 Anything other than breath means people go to heaven, either wicked or good. Which is the dumb theology you are peddlingBut your dumb theology above is glaring ![]() Anyways, everyone goes to heaven at death but God sent them to their final destination. If not scripture won't record that ALL MUST GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD. Romans 14:12 If people didn't go to heaven, how will that possible? |
MaxInDHouse:You're welcome MaxinDHouse |
MaxInDHouse:Should it have been you? ![]() Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God?because they know that is left for God to do since they are not God, they have no power to do so. So anybody claiming to know the people practicing pure worship simply equating him/herself to be God. That's why it's on the judgment day everything will be laid opened. Why because know man has the knowledge and only Jesus knows every man's heart and deed. If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say?No wonder you can't point to a single verse where Bible talk about this SPECIFIC GROUP. ![]() Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant!After you said, "Jesus claimed to know it all" you still went further to say "if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevanct" does this make sense? This very statement is strictly against your posit because if Jesus claimed to know it all, then Jesus should have spoken about the specific group. ![]() |
RealTalker02:No! Though it's weak and dumb to you. Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind.You're right here! But why did you go further to state the below? It's like you're confused This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven.You said above and I quote "Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death" So is EVERY MAN'S SPIRIT NOT their own self or what are you insinuating? Definitely, everybody goes to heaven at death ![]() |
Janosky:This one here is really pained to marrow ![]() Always cry like a baby to mods, no mods on nairaland will deliver you JWs from their failed prophecies and many errors of the past ![]() TUEH !!!!!!Really pained you, Pele ![]() |
haekymbahd:It just so unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about. You lied that Paul claims "WORK" is useless. From the Scripture you cited, it was "work of THE LAW" that keeps coming up. So how did you reduce it to just WORK? Could it be ignorance or dishonest in you? New King James VersionLook at the @color parts and see whether you understand what you're saying or just decided to attack a strawman argument. Now James beleives otherwise now James was said to be brother of Jesus while Apostle never met Jesus while on earth he said:What James and Paul are addressing are of two different things. Paul is teaching transition from the old LAW to NEW CHRIST JESUS while James is teaching on evidence of faith through work What did Jesus really say about this do christians work?Your answer is in that @color part, even though you quoted that scripture but it's evident you don't understand what you quoted. Go and search on articles that have dealt with "The Law in foreshadow of Christ Jesus." Or better read this epic one Here! |
cornelboy:And what is your problem with that? Whether you were given a proper burial or died in an ocean or burnt to ashes, death is death. Your automatically in your grave.Imagine see nonsense talk. But you claimed everyone will go to grave. ![]() But God has the power to raise you up with a perfect new body in the future.So what will God raise if the body has rotten and nothing survive it? What fits this your description is RECREATION which Bible never talked about. When God say the wicked will die, he really mean it. They won't continue to live in any imaginary hell fire like religion says today.Your obsession with what RELIGION SAYS today is what is keeping you in perpetual bondage of slavery to those 8 lying old men in Warwick. Yet religion is doing great for Jesus winning more souls than your demonic organization couldn't achieve for over 100years. |
cornelboy:Ask him he's your father I try to help you and say that Satan belief...:Anyways, you're not the first lying liar JWs ![]() That's not where our discussion about Satan started. And you said:Still jumping like kangaroo Are you okay? Why you keep lying?Yes! You're not okay The spirit of your father the Devil isn't in my so I'm not a liar like JWs Who's the empty skull, me or you?E pain am ![]() That's how you think.Denying time has come ![]() When you said "Satan believe in the Bible"Lying liar, check from the beginning of our discussion. But you have been here jumping up and down comparing my belief with that of Satan's.I didn't! Since your brain is too dull to comprehend things, that what is causing you this body painment now ![]() And I have asking you, is Satan now a JW?He is the leader of JWs Does he have the same believe as you do?Me and your father the Devil have nothing in common. You will always wallow in your foolishness and pride.Says Mr sense whose skull is full of dust ![]() |
cornelboy:Your opinion! Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth ![]() Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?What is he saying here Mr Sense? ![]() If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find" So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose? Can you see how nitwit you are? You too will say you have the holy spirit like this oThanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit. Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed ![]() The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.How does correlate with my pist Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread. I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.Your opinion ![]() |
cornelboy:Were you blind when you quoted my post? because if you're not you should see this 2 Corinthians 12:4 4 who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say. NWT If the comma is before today, your translation portrays Jesus as a liar cos he never went to heaven that day.Jesus went to heaven that same day, or wasn't He committed His SPIRIT to Jehovah? ![]() Read Bible you won't. He was dead in the grave for three days and later spent 40 days on earth after God raised him up before he ascended into heaven.So His spirit He committed into His Father's hand was where, in the grave with Him? ![]() |
AuthenticKing:Ok Before the coming of Christianity to Nigeria, we had the traditional religion that our forefathers practiced with so much devotion and reverence. They had so much superstitious beliefs that seemed so realistic and true to them. They saw their gods as the most powerful, not until when Christian and Muslim missionaries came with their religion, demonized ours and many of you now see it as evil and the foreign religions as light.I don't see the correlation between this your point and my post or the thread as a whole. Suddenly, the gods our forefathers extolled as powerful gods are now seems as man made powerless gods that can easily be destroyed by the Christian God (let me focus on Christianity since you're a Christian)So what is my business with that? If the gods of our forefathers extolled as powerful as you think, let them fight the Christian GOD and dethroned Him. Or you see anything wrong in that? The truth is that substitution techniques were used in such a way that some practices of the traditional religion were replaced with Christians (and Muslim) practices but it's just that the later were seen as the light and the truth.Well your opinion, the gods you're talking about are beings, if they feel they were substituted for another god let them judge the people they are gods over or come together to fight for their right against the Christian GOD. Or are you the one they send to fight for them? But why am I writing that above? If you were still living in those times. The spiritual explanations that would have been given to you by both your grandma and pastor or any other person would have been connected to the traditional practices of those periods and their gods.Where did I talk about SPIRITUAL explanation in my post? I said I dreamt and they COME TO REALITY. Same would have happen if you were raised as a Hindu or Buddhist or Muslim or Jew especially if you were raised in countries where those religions are pre-eminent.Are you sure you understand my post or you just decided to throw out your own point using my post? But all these religions and superstitions are man-made (I know you wouldn't agree with me). These religions and superstitions were invented to explain man's deepest and unexplainable questions about life and the universe and to some extent, I've never been against them but detest the extremities of their practices.What is superstition in my post? You created this thread seeking for people's opinions about Meaning OF DREAM, I shared my own experiences yet you're tagging it as SUPERSTITION. Dreams are subconscious realities and whether you believe they come from God or anyone, it's the same reality expressed in different ways.Yet you're seeking people's opinions on dream when I didn't even have give you any explanation but my own personal experience If you're comfortable with the diabolical explanations that come with dreams, I don't buy into it.Can you tell me the diabolical explanation in my narrative? I'm asking the question on the OP on Nairaland because I want to hear from those that have transcended dogma and superstition so I could learn more from them.Yet you could not explain how my own experiences mean superstition as I shared here. Thanks for your response anyways.You're welcome! |
TenQ:Jesus statement has no effect on them even though they claimed they are the real friends of Jesus Jesus said that He wasn't a Spirit but Flesh and BloodLook at the @underlined phrases very well. How can Jesus say "IT IS I MYSELF"? I use to say that only a poor English student will read this statement of Jesus Christ and give it another meaning. what the desciples thought they saw was a SPIRIT (which they will be right in the first place if Jesus is actually a SPIRIT) So why would Jesus take His time to correct that impression of not being a SPIRIT but FLESH when He is ACTUALLY A SPIRIT? Is the mystery any JWs can't solve. The physical Body of Christ was indeed raised in power according to 1Corinthians 15:42-45They will never understand that 1 Corinthians 15:42-45 despite the fact that they use it to proof Jesus as a spirit But how to understand those statements of Paul? Simply substitute "It" with what Paul was describing and ask them, is it correct? For example: 1Corinthians 15:42-45 42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it(The body) is raised imperishable; 43 it(The body) is sown in dishonor, it(The body) is raised in glory; it(The body) is sown in weakness, it(The body) is raised in power; 44 it(The body) is sown a natural body, it(The body) is raised a spiritual body. What was sown in perishable?This simple is too hard for them to comprehend. Jehovah destroyed it. Yet they can quote Psalm 16:10 ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Yet you welcome your brothers who are abusive ![]() So Mr Emusan do you want to have a tactful conversation having to do with reasoning from the scriptures or you just want to abuse based on the attitude of some you've been chatting with?Who asked you? Leave matter for Mathias, nobody begs for your reply. All these your tactics doesn't work on me. If you want a tactful conversation then i will oblige so we can see that the resurrection Paul was talking about here is not for all!Story.... If you can't reply my post nobody will arrest you. Just press ignore button ![]() |
MaxInDHouse:Is this verse ONLY talking about Jesus resurrection or resurrection of all dead people? But see the way you later link this ONLY to Jesus resurrection which supposed to be FOR ALL RESURRECTION ![]() Let's explore those verses above: "So is it with the resurrection of the dead." Meaning ALL the DEAD. "What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable." Which means the same body that is sown the same is RAISED "It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory." The same body sown the same raised in glory It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. The same body the same raised in power "It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body." So do you agree that ALL RESURRECTION will be raised in spiritual body? "If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written" Which means all resurrected people will have spiritual body ![]() “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spiritWhich means all resurrected people will became a life-giving spirit too, do you agree? |
genkins:@color is pure lies. When the pharisees asked Him for a miracle He didn't People like you would have said it's because He is fake that's why He couldn't do miracle in their presence |
Janosky:Yes He is the first born of every creature, but not the first CREATED of every creature. ![]() Sifia pains of 3 deities polytheistSo the verse I provided was from Japanese Bible, this worshipper of 8 lying old men self, anyways I understand your frustration. "Ho Theos is the Head of Christ", 1 Corinthians 11:3 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible.Nobody disagree on that JaNosense ![]() ![]() Solid Evidence that Paul & Philipians 2:6 is in Concord with 1 Corinthians 11:3.That phi 2:6 is still giving you severe pain because Christ is equal to God ![]() Apostle Paul who wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Philipians 2:6 the proof Mr Lienus lacks " simple comprehension", conflicting Jesus proof at John 14:28.At least you can't disprove Phil 2:6 of Jesus having equality with God as confirmed by Paul. Your LYING claim is not in any Greek Bible texts.Phi 2 is in Watchtower Bible I guess ![]() We know the great consoler here ![]() |
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