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Barristter07:
Not only Trump, Biden of God too.

Do well to answer the question I asked you. A voice is a part of you, Trumpet is not. Whose Voice will raise the Dead ?

So The Trump of God is no long part of it.... see delusion!

The voice of the Son of God will raise the dead

Can you show us where the voice of ANOTHER BEING was said to raise the dead?

Barristter07:
Apart from the Fact that he himself confirmed he was Created ( Rev 3:14 , *some heretics here change beginning to ruler or source, but they are all scammers, Source or ruler of God's creation won't need to be given Children. Cos automatically he own them )

The English man attribute the capital " G" to the Supreme being or someone representing him, so where some Angels get the capital G, it doesn't mean they are Supreme but they are at that moment representing the supreme God. The supreme being doesn't have a GOD , So therefore Jesus deserves " a god " . He has a God.

See how the hypocrite stylishly boycotted my point.

Here is it again.

So it's either John is right that The Word was God or the heretics known as Oriental Sec who held the doctrine like your demonic organization today, The Oriental SEC "held that the λόγος Logos or "Word" was one of the "Aeones" that had been created, and that this one had been united to the man Jesus." is right.

Do you say, this ORIENTAL SEC are right and the Christians (in which John was part of) who considered them as SEC are wrong?

because if Jesus was one of the Aeones and had been created then, the Oriental SEC are correct.

The fact is, John wrote that "The word was God" to prove the oriental sec wrong.

The Oriental SEC of today are JWs and they'll always be wrong.

Barristter07:
He would have died if what you said is right. No human can see God's face and live. Just accept He have a God.

Says the deluded JWs!

Jesus is in heaven, alive forevermore and human.

Janosky:
I had challenged you to post the screenshots of John Calvin's Daniel 10:13 Commentary alongside your other fellow 3 dogheads believers who confirmed the falsity of your claims, you just jakpa like Usain Bolt
Biblestudytools Commentary screenshot on Daniel 10:13 is here for you (even though they lied about "uncreated angel", go wear your goggles and STUDY am

See the lying liar JWs like your father the Devil

So John Calvin's on Daniel 10:13 has now replaced John 20:28 which is "...That Jesus is the Son of God, and by believing in him His name,...."

And since you agreed with Calvin that Jesus is Michael then you should agree with him that Jesus is God because that is what he said on John 1:1

I know your hypocrisy won't allow you to agree, just as your demonic organization cherry-picked the word of God.

Janosky:
believe that Jesus is God you would be saved?
Orishirishi salvation

As believe that Jesus is Archangel Michael you would be saved....potopoto salvation

John 20:31 and Revelation 3:12 & 21.
Mr LIENUS says it's dubious claim he has removed from the pages of his own Bible

The deluded JWs Janosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil has removed John 1:1, Heb 1, 1 John 1:2, Micah 5:2, Revelation 2:23, 1 John 5:7 from demonic translation.

Janosky:
God spoke " let there be light & light came to be,
God spoke "the Word" & a spiritual being came to exist ,(just as light came to exist ).

Where was it written in your demonic translation, that God spoke The Word and A SPIRITUAL BEING came to exist?

It's evident that Mr Janosense knows the truth but decided to be following the 8 fool men.

1 Corinthians 8:5 and John 10:34-36. Rev 3:12, Jesus use him mouth confirm himself is a god (created by the Father ) whether in heaven or earth.

I check ALL THESE scriptures yet I can't see where Jesus Christ HIMSELF CONFIRMED THAT He is "A god" but this is coming from the lying liar JWs the son of his father the Devil.

Continue DECEIVING yourself

While you'll continue to be your dear father the Devil's son.

Janosky:
I have neighbors who are physically challenged & is a pastor/deacon in a "miracle working, healing Church."
Bros, charity begins at home.

Why Jesus didn't save Judas despite working with him for years?

Just as I have a neighbor who are Jehovah witnesses, who fornicate and hate his fellow non JWs neighbors.

Biodun556:
If it is by faith, we should not have any disabled left.

So you are now God who knows those who have faith

DappaD:
Your salvation depends on you acknowledging those “8 old men”. Matthew 25:34-40
You go dey there think say na play.

The 8 old fool men are not saved themselves without any salvation not to talk of depending on them.

"Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." John 20

This is where salvation lies not with your 8 old fool men.

Okay. You’re just making spurious claims with no scriptural basis and you want someone to validate them for you? Miss me with that.
Simple question—who was Jesus referring to at Revelation 3:12 as “My God”?

While you're making dubious claim that can't be found in the scripture. Do you exist, talkless of missing you with anything?

The Father and it's simply because Jesus is still Human and under His mission.

You can refer back to that 1 Corinthian 15:28 on that.

Janosky:
The essence of John introducing Christ as a god or divine is the same reason John 10:34-36 and 1 Corinthians 8:5 is in your Bible .
Greek Theos also means a god.

See the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil, if you like you can keep cancelling that, it won't change who you are and the person of your father the Devil.

He couldn't answer it but exposing his delusion the more.

If Greek Throw ALSO means "a god", does that means Theos must ALWAYS be translated as "A GOD"

Greek John 14:1, John 1:1, John 20:17, John 17:3 , ho theos (g3588 g2316, the God) is NOT Jesus Christ .I challenge you to disprove this .
The first sentence in 1 Corinthians 8:7 says Mr LIENUS can NOT understand this.

Mr Janosense is beating about the bush is usual.

But "The God" Ho Theos is Devil your father

John 17:3 and John 20:17, in your Bible, who is "the ONLY ONE GOD "?

Three persons of the Trinity.

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[s]b]Bros, In your statements *1, *2 & *3, is a repeat of Bingbagbo/Presciousgirl GIBBERISH ,your fellow 3 dogheads believers. LYING dullards like Mr LIENUS. (See their GIBBERISH in screenshots , repeated in your statements *1, *2 & *3).

Mr LIENUS, [/b][/s]

Provide me where the Trinitarian claimed that the person of the Son is the same with the person of the Father.

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil.

DappaD:
Emusan’s conscience has been thoroughly beaten.

Says the deluded JWs who has sold his conscience to those 8 old fool men.

It’s usually he and his bandwagon of trinitarians who claim that Jesus split into two from his Father and sent one part of himself to the earth[basis not found in the scriptures]

This is because you lack indepth of the Word of God and refused to learn simply because your dull brain is left in the hands of those 8 men.

Facts from the scripture!
1. God is unlimited and His ways are unsearchable.

Then if God is unlimited and His ways are unsearchable, who are you to claim you God can't split Himself? Even though that's not what Trinity is all about but just from your dark understand of what Trinity entails just as your demonic organization always misrepresents the teaching of Trinity.

2. Only God is Eternal
Yet from scripture we read that

Holy Spirit is eternal
The Word (Jesus) is eternal.

Lastly, you won't receive sense until the day you'll be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation of Jesus Christ and when He became part of creation.

But how come Revelation 1:1 & 3:12,21 is now saying something different? So after ascension, why did Jesus did not merge back into his Father?
Why was he still was calling somebody
“My God, My God” @Rev 3:12 if he himself is God biko?

Even though you mumu people always chrerrypick 1 Corinthians 15 but vs 28 says "When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all."

The @underlined is the food for your consumption.

And you can sneak into some Biblical expositories to understand that verse the more.

Barristter07:
" a god " is not a wrong translation of Theo's. Fact!

For anyone who have a God, they are a god.

Didn't Jesus have A God in heaven ?

Imagine, but John 1:1 is wrong for a god because that was the issue the Heretics were propagating before John wrote his gospel.

So it's either John is right that The Word was God or the heretics known as Oriental Sec who held the doctrine like your demonic organization today, The Oriental SEC "held that the λόγος Logos or "Word" was one of the "Aeones" that had been created, and that this one had been united to the man Jesus." is right.

But both can't be right!

Barristter07:
He provided scriptural evidences.
1Thesalonians 4:16 , Whose Voice will raise the Dead ?

Says the deluded JWs!
1 Thessalonians 4:16, who will come with Trump of God?

Janosky:
Daniel 10:1,13 Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel (leader of angels,2 Thess1:7-9. Matthew 25:31 .). who fights for Jehovah's people.
(The scriptural truth which many bible Scholars who are 3 idol spirits devotees have confirmed .
)
STOP DECEIVING yourself ;

Michael the archangel appointed to resurrect the dead ,1 Thess 4:16, John 5:26-28 .

Matthew 11:27 = Matthew 27:43,46 & John 20:17 Emus Mumu +LIENUS, continue shouting upandan to reject the words of Jesus Christ

See the lying liar JWs like your father the Devil rejecting the word of God and following the word of men talking nonsense as usual.

Is it today you've been providing screenshot which eventually shows your lying mouth and exposed your dubious cherry-picked text as your demonic organization does?

You said MANY SCHOLARS but you can only present TWO from your MANY, you see the reason your father the Devil won't be proud of you? because you don't represent him well. If you want to lie, lie unimaginable lies so that your father the Devil can be so proud of you.

Lastly, the lying liar JWs can't provide where scripture emphatically called Christ Jesus the Angel Michael but he has to use the same people who he classified as idol worshippers as witnesses.

so pathetic for the follower of the 8 men man made gods.

Janosky:
Emus Mumu

The great Janosense, I hail oooo

" The Word was God.... Which means
The person of the Word is DIFFERENT from the person of the God....."[/b]
[b]Read the shaded portions of the Screenshot of your post and RECEIVE SENSE.

Yes the person of the word is different from the person of God, but the "WORD WAS God" and there is ONLY ONE GOD.

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

Any John 1:1 Translation (NWT, Moffatt bible Emphatic Diaglott etc) which means
"The person of the Word is DIFFERENT from the person of the God" are very very ACCURATE.

See the oponu,

Did Trinitarian ever say, the person of the word is the same with the person of God before

O ma se oooo for this brain dead lying liar.

The Word was divine" , very good & accurate.
The Word was a god, very good & accurate.
Ho Logos was divine, he is NOT ho theos. (John 20:17, John 14:1 & John 17:3 confirmento. Na Jesus talk am )
Bros ,cry me a river

What is the essence of Apostle John introducing Christ as "A God or divine" when your father the Devil and his servants who impregnated people before Noah's day (according to your theology) and human are said to be "A God"?

Definitely, the term of John 1:1 means Christ is not just a god but the very Eternity God who created everything.

But will your father the Devil allow you to have sense to see this?

Janosky:
2 Simple questions for you:
John 20:17 & 17:3, did Jesus agree with your claim on John 1:1?

John 20:21 & Matthew 10:40, did Jesus Christ agree with your claim on John 14:9?


Bros, answer am

John 1:1 "...and The Word was God"

This put your demonic translation into hell where it belongs to.

Janosky:
Shuoooo !!

For your mind , Christ spoke "thy, thou, sayeth, thine, thee, shew" .
Is Jesus Christ an English man ?
.

Wetin Musa no go see for gate ?

So are ALL ENGLISH versions of the Holy Bible that has Thou, thy, sayeth, thine?

Shameless lying liar like your father the Devil.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty, is asking what's the point of Matthew 11:25?

Bros, it is the same point Jesus made in Matthew 27:43,46 and John 20:17

Matthew 11:27 na rocket science to Mr LIENUS
DECEIVING himself

The lying liar Janosense the deluded Jesus is not God but Angel Michael.

Matt 11:27 is still up there for the lying liar the son of his father the Devil to tell us what is his point of referencing it.

Shameless lying liar like your father the Devil.

Janosky:
Bros, is Matthew 11:25 in your Bible?
Who is the Lord Superior to Jesus Christ?

This is what Matt 11:25 says "At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes."

What is your point, Mr Janosense?

Peacefullove:
Verse 21 did not contradict 19, don't be an idiot

One spirit, not two kind of spirit. Same one , animals and man have . So if you claim it's a person, then ready to make animals own a person too . Don't be a fool.

You are already a fool, if not you'd have known that the word SPIRIT doesn't convey the same meaning.

If you think it does, then God is a SPIRIT means God is mere BREATH of life and not a person.

That was the reason I quoted verse 21 to show your ignoramus that different versions interpret it differently but you're too dull to grab it.

In addition, A Spirit being doesn't have flesh and bones. An human therefore can't have a spirit being as component.

Spirit there equals breath

The spirit of a man is a person....continue to rant over that. Spirits do possess human.

Look at @color and see the lying liar mouth changing mouth. You know the word interpreted as SPIRIT there has different meanings that was the reason you said "...THERE"

Your God is a breath since He is a SPIRIT.

Which spirit like angels Drink ?

The rich man ( man ) not rich spirit. Request for water to drink, this is an human not spirit. This question your spirit being go to the Father idea totally.



The place didn't say Heaven ( John 3:13 ) heaven was never mentioned in that story . Don't be a silly idiot. Lazarus wasnt buried but was carried bodily to bossom of Abraham. Begs the question, how can Abel who died years ago go to the bossom of Abraham who wasnt born yet ?

With all this prove of bodily existence, has ressurection occured ?

You're already a silly idiot.

There is RIVER not even ordinary water in heaven according to Revelation. Idiot!

Where was it say in the scripture that Lazarus didn't buried? Lying liar JWs.

Concerning if what goes to the Father is judgement or not. I said below


And some of you idiots will quote Hebrew : It is Appointed unto man to die once, after this a what ?

You are an idiot.


If no judgement was involved , all would be directed to the same location, that separation is an attribute of Judgement.

And the idiot don't know, "it is appointed to die ONCE and after that judgement" means no repentance in the grave.

Oponu radarada!

Peacefullove:
Spirit of man is another term for a spirit with flesh and bones. Which is wrong

What was he even saying here

Very incoherent jargons

Spirit which reside in man therefore is not a person.

A spirit doesn't have flesh and bones ,

Spirit of man is a person

ECC 3:19 all have same spirit . Some other translation say one spirit . Just One , not two kinds , same , one . Open your senses, Making human spirit a person makes animals own too the same . Since they are one and the same.

That is why I quoted verse 21 for you which you disregard.

Do spirits drink water ?

The water requested is it Spiritual water or physical water ?

You fool didn't even realize Lazarus wasn't buried , he was carried bodily by angels.

But there's fountains of WATER IN HEAVEN

can you see how deluded you are?

You fool didn't know Lazarus DIED first.

So if Lazarus was carried to heaven BODILY this shame your lying doctrine that HUMAN BODY CAN'T go to heaven.

It's getting interesting!



And some of you idiots will quote Hebrew : It is Appointed unto man to die once, after this a what ?

You are an idiot.

If no judgement was involved , all would be directed to the same location, that separation is an attribute of Judgement.[/quote]

DappaD:
Yeah the same way the angels also exist in the form of God. Check Psalm 104:4 against John 4:24

I read Psalm 104:4 but I didn't see where it says Angels are created in the FORM of God.

Spirit is just opposite of physical

Are you saying ALL PHYSICAL THINGS have the same NATURE?

[color,=red]Forget the word that is rendered as “nature”[/color] and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4
The Strong’s Greek for θείας (theíos) means (an adjective, derived from 2316 /theós, "God" ) – divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature.

So the Christians at 2Peter 1:4 manifest characteristics of God’s nature according to the above meaning. The question is do they also become God? I need a simple and direct answer.

The funny thing is to tell me to FORGET a critical word in the scripture just because you want to continue to defend your fraudulent doctrines.

@2nd color....

It's good as you yourself know that they ONLY MANIFEST characteristics of God's nature nature not that THEY EXIST in the FORM of God

The Greek and Hebrew words use mainly to denote the actual nature God exists are translated as FORM and that was the same word USED in Phil 2 :6 for Jesus.

DappaD:
This one na big lie oo. It’s not today you started talking from both sides of your mouth. What Peacefullove is asking isn’t farfetched. Do humans turn into Jehovah simply because they share divine nature? That was how I quoted 2Peter 1:2-4 on your thread some weeks ago till today you’ve been dribbling yourself and running from pillar to post.

You said it's a big lie but does Jesus share in God's nature or HE EXISTS IN THE VERY FORM OF GOD?

What you people don't even know is that the Greek word "Phusis" rendered as NATURE in 2 Peter 1 never be used for spirit being but for physical things and human. In fact the word was translated as MANKINDS by many translations in James 3:7 and as PEOPLE by many translations including your perverted NWT.

Definitely, the verse didn't talk about God's ESSENCE.

Another problem in this verse for you is that, the verse is talking about believers generally. This can be seen from the text.

And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.

The reason believers will share in this divine nature, is because IT WILL HELP THEM TO ESCAPE THE WORLD'S CORRUPTION CAUSED BY HUMAN DESIRES

But now that you believe only few people will share this nature and you're excluded then you and the millions who will live forever on earth will continue to be living in this world of corruption.

Peacefullove:
Exactly, Trinity is false , Christian's possess God's nature and it doesn't make them ALMIGHTY Gods. So save that rubbish of Trinity by nature

I didn't even want to address this before but it seems you derive joy in your ignorance and delusion.

Trinity is true and will forever be true!

Where do Christian possess God's nature?

Include the scripture oooooooooo

Lying liar JWs.

Peacefullove:
Spirit don't have flesh and bones, off that mic. Spirit of man is his breath , the same Spirit animals have . ECC 3 vs 19 . I guess animal Spirit is a person too.

Oponu...
Who says Spirit has flesh and bones before?

Ecc 3:21 "Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?”

I can create alot of issue for you from the above , number 1. The parable mention people with human bodies, not any spirit.

See the oponu....

So if the parable mention human bodies, it means spirit doesn't have BODIES, RIGHT?

you will soon shot yourself in the foot.

Man you are now grabbing alot of straws to stay relevant. It is finished

Is it your straw What are you doing to stay relevant? More lies and twisting.

That was my Master last word when He died for my sin.

What concerns me in the post is: on what basis is someone decided to be going to hell or Abraham bossom ? That opinion is what, Judgement ?

Not judgement! You need to retrieve your brain back.

I can see how you people have left the main issue and began to grasp for survival.

Barristter07:
[s] thank God the statement is correct. God is a Spirit and a person . If you agree with that bolded, You are just been stupid to say it's not scriptural.

Okay God is spirit and a person.

Spirit of man is Spirit and a person.

Both doesn't have flesh and bones.

Spirit of man in man therefore cannot be a person , cos a Spirit that's a person doesn't have Flesh and bones like humans have .[/s]

Do you ever say "Human person" at any time?? Oponu radarada.

Spirit person is a fraudulent invention of your useless organization, no wonder you people fail simple basic English.

Spirit does not have flesh and bones

And who says Spirit has flesh and bones

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil

[s]From there , what happens next ? Judging who goes to hell or Abraham bossom right ?

Very dull individual, to pronounce a person wicked or righteous, demand what ? Judgement

On what basis is God deciding who goes to hell or Abraham bossom ?

Definition of judgement

" the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing "

Forming an opinion concerning who deserves hell or Abraham bossom is judgement.

You are getting more silly , u know ?[/s]

Police putting arrested person inside cell means the person has been condemned by law.

Keep exposing your ignorance all over.

Like I do say the day you people remember to pick your dull brain from those 8 men is the day, you people will receive sense.

Barristter07:
My Guy, like someone said this is bigger than u can handle.

When you even know that is bigger than your 8 men put together

Janosky:
God's form is spirit, John 4:24.
Man's form is dust, Genesis 2:7, 3:19.

Man's form is dust plus spirit just as God's form is Spirit plus HOLY SPIRIT.


Many times comparison have been done with man composition and that of computer.


Man: Flesh, spirit, and soul


Computer: Hardware, software, and electricity


But JWs lying liar will agree with computer but rejected that of man.

Janosky:
FALSE claim of a LIENUS.

When facts are staring at your lying face.

Your father the Devil must be really disappointed in you for coming so low this way!

Barristter07:
[s] You could have made the explanation if you have any Breeze don blow , fowl yansh yaff open . O ma se o

Explain what you meant by spirit is a person if you don't mean spirit person ? I like a point by peacefullove, the word person was never added to John 4:24, all we find there is Spirit. Is anyone wrong to add " person " ??


Father deciding where each spirit goes is what , if it isn't Judgement ? On what basis are some in hell and others in heaven . If this is not judgement, tell this thread , what it is ?

[/s]

The same deluded person

Peacefullove:
In short you are just empty, Dragging it up and down that spirit of man is a person. No text ever said God is a Spirit person. The word person wasn't added to John 4:24 . But because God is a Spirit and a person. Then he is a Spirit person.

Like I first told your deluded brother and which you also agree with here now.

@underlined is the key, the word SPIRIT PERSON is an invention of your demonic organization. Not from the scripture.

Just as you and your deluded brother lied that I said human spirit BECOMES SPIRIT PERSON.

You idiot is arguing against the word " Spirit person " but can boldly declare human spirit as a person. If it's " Spirit " and a " person " what does that make it?

See this clown

why can't you say "Human person" Olodo oshi.

Spirit of man is a person NOTHING LIKE YOUR BECOME SPIRIT PERSON

The point u can't deal with is making human spirit a person will means humans don't have flesh and bones.

Spirit of man is a person and human has flesh and bones.

The second point even reveal how illogical you are , You said Father decide where each spirit goes , concept of Judgment. Seeing u are outplayed as that would make God someone u made errors , u turn everything into game of words. It's beautiful seeing you end up like this. So good .

Cc: Barristter07

Smile....copy a clown like himself.

This clown won't cease to amaze me.

1. All spritis return to God says the Holy scripture
2. At death people go to hell and Abraham Bossom this is just a temporary abodes for wicked and righteous ones not judgement.

And the deluded JWs don't even know that believers will also be judged at the great white throne of Christ.

You'll see the question the idiot will ask now!

Peacefullove:
I don't . Because you know the concept won't accommodate Christian's to be God Almighty.

So you know that and you went on to say "Trinity is false, and your Millionity is right"

Very pathetic.