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MaxInDHouse:
When Peter said "Sanctify Jesus in your heart" then he concluded by saying "always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands" 1Peter 3:15

Can you quote where Peter said the @color?

This is what Peter said "But sanctify the Christ AS LORD in your heart..." NWT

Compare it with the way you've been rendering this verse dubiously.

Yet your father the devil keeps inspire you to remove "AS LORD" not once or twice, so that you'll continue to dance to his tune.

You attributed the first mistake as device error still you haven't openly accepted this one but keep PURPOSELY REMOVING THIS WORDS, Why

Was it a wrong insertion?
Was it a wrong translation?

like I do say, truth will continue to hunt forever!

Please quote one comment where Maximus questioned you over your Faith, let's see the Pharisee now!

You didn't question but what are you doing here

MaxInDHouse:
I haven't heard of a JW arrested as thief for once in all my life but as for your fellow Churchgoers even many of your folks are now waking up to the TITHING issue!
Less i forget are you on the side of those paying tithes or against it?

I challenge you to post any link where a thief or thieves were caught and they mentioned the church they attend or worship with.

Well if you haven't heard of a thief, at least you have heard of child se.x, divorce, promiscuous e.t.c

MaxInDHouse:
I can sanctify my own Jesus as ANYTHING i wish, it's between me and my own Jesus none of your business Sir!

Then you know more than your god who says "But Santify the Christ AS LORD in your heart..."

in case you don't know, notice the "BUT" at the beginning of that statement. Which means what you should do not YOUR OWN WAY.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't you notice how pharisaical you are?

Jesus' disciples don't go about questioning other religionists who feels they're better than Christians rather it's Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis that always going about looking for ways to argue with the Christians just as you're trying to do now.
So if you truly want to be a Christian you will explain more about your own Jesus to me and i'll also tell you about my own Jesus perhaps we can start from there. But you questioning me as if i'm answerable to you, i'll just continue to laugh at your arrogance!

See the hypocrite!

The same person who doesn't have life outside Nairaland is talking.

You never create any topic but your posts with the first account of 2 years which you deactivated are over 11,000 and the new account of less than 8 months are over 3,000 and 99.9% of these posts are from religion section.

Compare this with Image who is a member since 2008 with just over 16,000 posts and 85% from religion section.

Who is Pharisee here?

Hypocrite lying liar JWs like your father the devil.

MaxInDHouse:
I can sanctify my Jesus as anything i wish it's between me and my Jesus Sir!

So Jehovah is wrong to have inspired Peter to write that you must sanctify Jesus Christ AS LORD

Oh sorry, I forgot you're wiser than your god, who didn't know you can sanctify your jesus "AS ANYTHING" before instructing you to sanctify him "AS LORD"

This your damage control is getting deeper!

That was the reason I said what you claimed to be device error was a lie, now for you to acknowledge the same word in the same verse is now a burden on you.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for the correction, it's the device not me so i have edited it!

When lying liar caught near corner.

Was it the same device that removed "AS LORD" too?

If Yes! Why didn't it appear in your correction?

Or "As Lord" was a later insertion by Trinitarians?

Ezeziacky didn't do half of this before your fellow Sunni wanabi label him terrorist and condemn him behind bar for years till today.

But one thing is sure, had it been you're a southern or a Shia Muslim, the story would've been a different one today.

Well enjoy the support of your fellow terrorists!

Image123:
Lol, you had to speak in tongues instead of answer a simple straightforward question. i pity you Jwickedness people, your condition is hilarious.

He won't give you straight answer because his father the Devil won't allow him.

Look at the verse he cited 1 Pet 3:15 in NWT and see how he cropped most important part out, which is the very question you asked him.

He changed "Sanctify" to "satisfied"

"But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect." 1 Pet 3:15 NWT

The truth is he won't confess Jesus Christ as his Lord but he can't rewrite the scripture.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted reminds me of Paul's second letter to Timothy "having a form of godliness but proving false to it's energy (powers)"
2Timothy 3:5
The divinity of someone who supposed to be a Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} yet there is no PEACE in your midst, abeg what is the evidence of the presence of Jesus in your midst? Matthew 28:20
Why do you people just love deceiving yourselves?

Jesus has used His various ministers to perform several Miracles as He promised. Something that can't be found in the midst of demonic Watchtower organization.

The presence of Christ as prince of peace can be seen ALL OVER THE WORLD TODAY because it's through the Christians that the world is still enjoying the relative peace today, if not JWs won't even have the chance to walk up and down in Nigeria talkless of other countries as they can't do now in China & North Korea.

I tell you, when Christ uses His True followers to conquer China and North Korea, your demonic Watchtower organization will find her way there and started shouting fake Christians.

MightySparrow:
You see their delusion too? the idea is discredit the divinity of Jesus, It does not flow with central theme of the Bible: Covenant.

That's what their father the Devil handed over to them

I just want to crop the necessary parts in your post so that you can see the point you're making yourself.

MiddleDimension:
born agains are commanded to be blameless, if that answers your question.

Afyer you agreed with this, why do you go further to confuse and contradict yourself

also, a man marrying more than one wife is not "blameful", if there is any word as such.

This is from your own confused mind, because you already said above that BORN AGAIN are COMMADED to be BLAMELESS, and having ONE WIFE is part of criteria of being BLAMELESS.

vs 6 says: "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly." meaning, if you have someone among you who is upright; in our words today, has no criminal record, much like what we do police report for. if there is such a person, and he has only one wife, and has children that are not agbero, then ordain him a Bishop (so you can see the scripture is not meant for everyone);

Look @color and see your own contradictory statement.

I don't know why you keep contradicting yourself after you already said above that born again are commanded to be BLAMELESS.

why? because a bishop must be according to vs 7, "...blameless...." in other words, people should not have one or two bad things to say about you.

The blameless here does not include the fact he has only one wife, but because he has no criminal record, and other character flaws are not found in him.

The blameless includes having one wife if not it won't be mentioned. Stop lying!

Are born again supposed to have criminal record and other character flaws found in them?

Laslas, you'll still come down to the fact that, the criteria meant for a born again is the same one for a Bishop.

I don't know why you're hellbent on this, if you want to marry more than one wives, go ahead but it is boldly written in the scripture that Christians are to marry only one wife.

his insistence on the person having only one wife is in recognition of the fact the work of an elder or a bishop would mean so much sacrifices, that which may not be easily obtained from a man with a large home.

Imagine, see excuse.
But OT peoples married more than one and still sacrificed a lot for God.

Just continue!

DappaD:
Despite seemingly similarities, which of the core doctrines do Jehovah’s Witnesses and SDA currently share?(Apart from the invisible and visible presence palaver)

@color is enough to see the hypocrite!

Now, visible or invisible appearance is PALAVA.

My emphasis is on “currently” because iyambz claims to have left his church but still adheres to their teachings whereas do JW’s do such? Who’s the real hypocrite Emusan?

But you still stick to the same similarities of doctrines of SDA

[s]Charles Taze Russell and his group were hungry and thirsty for righteousness(Matthew 5:6), so in order to be filled, they had to obey the command found at Revelations 18:4 to break away from all forms of false religion so the difference between the IBS and other religious at the time was not quite known until Jesus Christ began separating the wheats(true Christians) from the weeds/tares(“Lord, Lord” criers) shortly after his presence began in 1914 and established his own group in 1919. Matthew 13:30

So if you’re judging Jehovah’s Witnesses from the formative years, know that the first century Christians also had rifts between themselves in the early years that the Christian congregation was formed.(Acts 15:2) but what’s more important is how the quickly adapted to new circumstances and carried on pure worship decently and in arrangement(1Corinthians 14:34) and remained in one line of thought just like the Jehovah’s Witnesses you’re seeing today.
2Corinthians 13:11, 1Peter 3:8[/s]

Nobody asked you!

MiddleDimension:
I just read it and if you have read it yourself, you will agree that it is a requirement for consecrating Bishops he is talking about, and not that Polygamy is a sin. But of course, i do not think this that i have said is enough to convince you, at least, that you quoted a wrong scripture to back up your compulsory monogamy as the ideal and only model for christians.

And there is a reason he gave that requirment which is completely different from polygamy being bad.

You claim I quoted a wrong scripture to back up monogamy, yet you couldn't answer my previous question.

For information, that verse is applicable to ALL BELIEVERS.

Firstly, where does the word BISHOP appear in that verse? No where but you decided to interject that into the verse.

Secondly, can you tell us the requirements that apply only to the Bishops and not ALL BELIEVERS?

Lastly, according to that verse, are ONLY Bishops commanded to be BLAMELESS or ALL BELIEVERS?

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for commenting Sir,

You're welcome for commenting sir

God bless you

You mean Jehovah can bless me, who is not JWs

and may you have PEACE!

You think I'm JWs who doesn't have peace?
I already have peace in my Lord and Savior Christ Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:
The truth of the matter is Paul clarified matters as a Christian. There are two Lords, Paul said one God and one Lord {1Corinthians 8:6} but if you read the KJV that most Churchgoers approve David said @ Psalms 110:1 "The LORD said to my Lord"
The NWT rendered that verse more appropriately saying "Jehovah said to my Lord" in harmony with Paul's letter at 1Corinthians 8:6.

Only if you can see your own delusion.

You're trying to condemn KJV yet it's the same KJV that you derive your TWO LORDS from because going by NWT, it means Jehovah isn't LORD.

You couldn't see this because your brain has been blocked by the lying organization.

So there is one God (JEHOVAH) and one Lord (Jesus) yet JEHOVAH is LORD over Jesus {1Corinthians 11:3} which means there are TWO Lords!

Just imagine this contradiction in one statement.

Truth will continue to hunt you.

Keep living in your delusions!

MaxInDHouse:
Psalms 110:1 KJV

Where is the plurality in that verse?

And you know more than Apostle Paul who says there is ONE LORD

DappaD:
Don’t you think this Scripture should be applied in your case? Catholic Church handed down philosophical teachings of Trinity and hellfire to your numerous churches which you wholeheartedly accepted then you went ahead to rebel against them but still stuck to their teachings. Who’s the hypocrite and divulger of contrived stories?

Just as Seventh Day Adventist handed over some of your doctrines to you and you still went ahead to rebel against them.

Hypocrite!

freshboi88:
Which Lord again....I thought there is only one Lord and that's Jehovah. So y r u celebrating Jesus.....who asked you to celebrate Jesus's death and call him Lord

You can even see him saying There are TWO Lords

When the scripture says there's ONE LORD

MiddleDimension:
Please quote the passage for me let me look at it.

Titus 1:6

ThreeEyedRaven:
I totally agree with him. The Bible only instructs the ministers or church workers to marry only one wife but didn't speak against polygamy

Bible didn't ONLY instruct minister's or church workers but ALL BELIEVERS.

The verse is: If ANY be blameless, the husband of ONE WIFE...

The question is, are believers commanded to be blameless?

EMILO2STAY:
the way you shamelessly show up and have the courage to type after your ignorance have been exposed times and again is a cause to worry about . I will only indulge serious minded people and not shameless ignorant man like you again.

This was a picture of a full moon taken from a mountain in Saudi, ask them to explain to you why the blue sky can be seen through their solid moon above our atmosphere.

LordReed:
I told you it's closed but not like a door. It is just a description of the earth's physical system with respect to the in flow of matter and energy. It does not prevent matter or energy from departing the earth.

These your lies are getting too much

Why are you diving into what you have limited knowledge of?

Space dust enters earth and tons of matter escape our planet to space everyday not just a year or once in blue moon.

LordReed:
The earth is an inertial reference frame, the experiment demonstrates how inertial reference frames work.

@underlined even shows your level of understanding in the subject matter, yet you're the one who want to teach us. Teach don teach me nonsense!

Earth is never an initial reference frame.

Strictly speaking, Newton’s laws of motion are valid only in a coordinate system at rest with respect to the “fixed” stars. Such a system is known as a Newtonian, or inertial reference, frame. The laws are also valid in any set of rigid axes moving with constant velocity and without rotation relative to the inertial frame; this concept is known as the principle of Newtonian or Galilean relativity. A coordinate system attached to the Earth is not an inertial reference frame because the Earth rotates and is accelerated with respect to the Sun. Although the solutions to most engineering problems can be obtained to a satisfactory degree of accuracy by assuming that an Earth-based reference frame is an inertial one, there are some applications in which the rotation of the Earth cannot be neglected; among these is the operation of a gyroscopic compass. (See centrifugal force; Coriolis force.)

Imagine, ASSUMPTION was even made that earth is an initial reference frame.

Link Here

At no point did I say I was demonstrating a ball earth so don't be pathetic in putting words in my mouth.

So what are you trying to prove if not a ball earth saga?

The question still remains, how can plane fly in opposite direction of a rotational motion and still get to its destination? Considering that earth rotates at high speed.

What has the earth being a closed system got to do with inertial reference frames?

It has been established that earth isn't an initial reference frame, what excuse do you have now for a plane reaching its destination when flying in opposite direction of earth rotation?

If earth is a closed system then it can be said to have initial reference frame just as a spaceship orbiting the earth can be said to have initial reference frame.

The picture below sum it up

LordReed:
The experiment is to demonstrate how inertial reference frames work not to demonstrate a ball earth.

So of what important is your demonstration to the POV of a ball earth?

If the video I linked is not enough for you to understand then even if I did the one I outlined you still won't.

Just imagine, you claimed the experiment isn't about a ball earth yet you're using the same experiment to validate your point.

Very pathetic!

For your initial point to be true, earth must be a close system.

LordReed:
Inertial frames of reference? Sure. Simple really, get a big basin fill it water and put in something like a catapult that can shoot a projectile through the water.

I should get

Aren't you supposed to practicalize it then show us here?

Besides, do you know the energy required to move a body of water that a projectory object can travel in?

Measure the average speed of the projectile moving through the water while the basin is stationery. Now move the basin around and do the measurement again while it's in motion. The average speed of the projectile will not change.

I'm waiting for your experiment with detail video on this.

This video illustrates it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q4fam5UOPU

It didn't

Earth is A SUPPOSED BALL with a ROTATIONAL MOTION not a linear motion

Rotational motion and linear motion behave differently on object.

aadoiza:
This is some wild theory you just made.
What i infer from this is that the atmosphere is also moving with the earth which means the earth is a closed system, right?

@underlined is the reason of my question.

Yet no straight answer!

LordReed:
Everything on earth has it even the air.

can you demonstrate this in the lab?

Janosky:
* 2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

2 Corinthians 4:4,Mr LIENUS roger that.

See the Janosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

I know you lack basic English.

Christ is the IMAGE OF GOD.

My question was, where in the scripture this statement appeared, that Jesus bears the Image of anyone?

Jesus is THAT VERY IMAGE man was created after.

Oponu radarada

CAPTIVATOR:
Show me one single place where the scripture says The Father who is the image of the son?

Olodo radarada!

But Jesus IS THAT VERY IMAGE, which means without Jesus the Father has no image.

You are too daft. Every intelligent creation exist in The father's image because he created them all, Jesus included.

Oponu ju...

And that Father's image is Jesus Himself.

Do you get it now, oponu?

livingchrist:
what is the name of the church peter attend, if you can answer me, I will tell you the name of my church

You'll wait for the answer till thy kingdom come.

If not because you're wiser than him, he can boldly say, kingdom hall of JWs.

CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus is the image OF ( Of means belonging to) the Invisible God ( the Father )

Nobody exist in Jesus image.

So funny....

Let's replace your definition in the verse.

Jesus is the IMAGE belonging to the invisible God (the Father)

Can you see what the scripture is saying here is that, the IMAGE OF GOD is Jesus Himself?

Which means without Jesus the Father has NO IMAGE.

And man was created in the Image of God

Janosky:
# 8 questions for you:
* Yahweh created ALL things , but you seem to know Creation more than Yahweh.
Bros, Genesis 1:1-27 & Job 38:1-7, According to Yahweh, who were present there to rejoice and applaud Yahweh's work?
When Yahweh speaks there,whom is Yahweh talking to?

* Bros, Genesis 1:1-25, what did Yahweh create ?

*Job 38:1-7, who saw the creation of Yahweh and celebrated ?

* JOB 38:3-4, "I" refers to who?

* Can your brain understand that Job 38:1-7 , Yahweh revealed more Creation info not stated in Genesis 1:1-27?

* Job 38:7 who are the morning stars singing together?

* Revelation 22:16, who is the morning star ?

* Revelation 22:16, Did Yahweh create morning star ?


Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(7) The morning stars.—The context seems to suggest that by the stars are meant the angels entrusted with their guardianship, from whence Milton has borrowed his conceptions. The magnificent sublimity of the expression and the thought needs no comment.
Bros , please read the Ellicott's Commentary & the screenshot Evidence thoroughly.
Will you be there to clap hands at an Event you were not present?

You people don't see how foolish your doctrines are, that's why you can open your dirty mouth to defend a doctrine without seeing the negative impact on the other doctrines.

The same people who claimed, Jehovah first created Jesus and used Jesus to create other things, now claiming that Jehovah was ISSUING COMMAND OF CREATION TO HEAVENLY HOSTS.

Which means, Jesus wasn't the only person used to create all other things but ALL THE ANGELS.

This is Ellicott's and Barnes'commentary on Gen 1:26 I know you won't agree with them but will only agree with the part that suits your lying mouth.

Ellicott: "As regards the use of the plural here, Maimonides thinks that God took counsel with the earth, the latter supplying the body and Elohim the soul. But it is denied in Isaiah 40:13 that God ever took counsel with any one but Himself. The Jewish interpreters generally think that the angels are meant. More truly and more reverently we may say that this first chapter of Genesis is the chapter of mysteries, and just as “the wind of God” in Genesis 1:2 was the pregnant germ which grew into the revelation of the Holy Ghost, so in Elohim, the many powers concentrated in one being, lies the germ of the doctrine of a plurality of persons in the Divine Unity.

BARNES Note: "At the same time he sets it before himself as a thing undertaken with deliberate purpose. Moreover, in the former mandates of creation his words had regard to the thing itself that was summoned into being; as, "Let there be light;" or to some preexistent object that was physically connected with the new creature; as, "Let the land bring forth grass." But now the language of the fiat of creation ascends to the Creator himself: Let us make man. This intimates that the new being in its higher nature is associated not so much with any part of creation as with the Eternal Uncreated himself.

The truth is you decided to give another meaning to their stance on Job 38:7, which isn't surprising as you're a liar like your father the Devil.