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DappaD:
He has to keep up otherwise he’ll lose his relevance here just as Emusan lost his.

The person who looses his relevance is the same person you people can't stop spamming his mention here and even called to come and help someone.

So pathetic for you.

I will open Nairaland and from you people, I'll see more than 10 mentions, yet your lying mouth is dancing here.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]My guy i'm from Ògùn state and Òwu kingdom for that matter. Perhaps i should tell you a little about Yorùbá heritage.
For your information the real Yòrùbás are the tribes within and surrounding Òyó, all other tribes aren't Yorùbá!

Àwórìs, Ìjèbús, Ègbás, Ìjèsàs, Ilé-ifè, Òndó, Òwò, Àkúré, Èkìtì and so many others ARE NOT YORÙBÁS!

So when talking about the Yorùbá language, ask the real Yòrùbás the meaning of our dialect.[/s]

Thrash

OLÓRÍ-BURÚKÚ loosely translated THE UNFORTUNATE is a CURSE Sir!

Where did I call anyone on this forum "OLORI-BURUKU"

I'm waiting for this

And regarding the highlighted please can we both seal the agreement never to cross each other's path, interfere or in mentioning one another again?

I bet you can never do that, so stop being childish because you're always running after my posts!

No wonder you keep spamming my mention and even doing attache by force by calling me my good friend.

Janosky:
LIENUS
Every Primary school pupils knows that "is & " was" means different things


John 1:1 in English versions...John 1:1 in English versions. The traditional rendering in English is: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ... [It] is clear that in the translation "the Word was God", the term God is being used to denote his nature or essence, and not his person.
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › John_1:1
John 1:1 - Wikipedia [It] is clear that in the translation "the Word was God", the term God is being used to denote his nature or essence, and not his person.
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › John_1:1
John 1:1 - Wikipedia.
VERDICT: Jesus, the Word is NOT God Almighty.
The Word, Jesus is godlike , divine (a god) , NOT God Almighty.

Mr LIENUS, Your Trinity mentors will ALWAYS expose you any LIES you post on this forum.

So pathetic that you'll quote a reference but still failed to see how your reference put your lying mouth in shame.

@Color
Your reference establishes that it should be "THE WORD WAS GOD" and goes further to say The term GOD is in reference to the NATURE or ESSENCE of the Word not His person. Which means the person of the Word is different from the person of the God, the Word was with.

I know you'll never receive sense.

Janosky:
Lawyer pass lawyer, the same way the Supreme spirit pass other spirits
The Supreme Lawyer employed his small lawyer to work & do his bidding

Colossians 1:15 & Romans 11:35-36, the first born of every creature is a son of our heavenly Father in any realm the son dwells.

Your almighty GIBBERISH meets it's waterloo on this thread

See how the oponu sound.

Lawyer pass lawyer, yet the Highest lawyer employees the service of small lawyer. Isn't that a wrong move?

See how simple English is exposing your ignorance.

Like I said, until your brain is retrieved from those 8 men, then your sense will be back in full mode.

Barristter07:
Spirit person ?

It's getting Interesting

Human spirit is a person

Deal with it.

Luke 23:46 - his Ascension to heaven was in which nature ?

Already answered!

The Greek word is the same as the one translated Blasphemy . Which is to speak Evil

Proving the point that what is not human can be blasphemed because God own it. Such as the temple and his name

Hypocrite!

Now, rushing to Greek.

Here is another version

NLT: And he spoke terrible words of blasphemy against God, slandering his name and his dwelling—that is, those who dwell in heaven.

Until your brain is removed from the hand of those 8 men, your won't get it.

To reject that is to Admit holy spirit is Greater than Christ in authority .

Says the deluded JWs

U say persons know

Jesus said a Person knows

Silly liar .

Did Holy Spirit know the mind of God? Yes
Is Holy spirit a person? Yes!

Lying liar JWs!

Janosky:
No Bible said that.. You know the bolded LIE exist only in your brain, Mr LIENUS John 17:1,3 his Father is the one true God.

John 1:1 put your lying mouth in the coven of your father the devil.
The Word was GOD!

Janosky:
Olodo post
Romans11:35-36, what came through the Father?
Jesus off course!

So Jesus is that ALL THINGS that came through the Father....

You can see your Olodo post here.

Matthew 27:43,46 your almighty is crying and begging his Father, "my God, my God, why have you forsaken me"?"

Yes! As Human he cried and not only cried, but thirsty, sleep, eat, and weak.

The Lawyer was used to do the bidding of the House Owner.
Likewise, God created the Universe THROUGH His Son.
The Father owns creation, His Son did the Father's bidding.
The son is not Almighty, Mr LIENUS

I know your empty skull can't grab that point.

Why will you use a LAWYER to buy an Estate when you yourself you're a Lawyer? That was the question.

The son is Almighty Janosense!

MaxInDHouse:
No he's not with the Watchtower family!

But has one line of thought with you....

MaxInDHouse:
Confused dullard means the person is dull in reasoning and confused.

This one is a direct CURSE o. So Mr Emusan please calm down, it's not by force someone agree with you, can't you be just feel satisfied by saying "go and worship your own God" since the different is obvious?

It's not a curse just because you lack indepth of Yoruba Lang doesn't mean you can't ask people for meaning.

Then who says it's a must that someone must agreed with me

Then since you know I won't say go and worship your own God, why do you keep spamming my mention?

Isn't that a prove that something is actually wrong with you?

Barristter07:
Perversion of scriptures to stick to falsehood

Says the deluded JWs who is known for the most perverted of the word of God.

Ecc 12:7 says

" Our bodies will return to the dust of the earth, and the breath of life will go back to God, who gave it to us. " Good news translation.

Spirit of man is the breath of life. nOT a person, yet it knows the mind of a man. Same applies to holy spirit knowing God's mind . Personification

still to your translation hypocrite!

7 Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit * returns to the true God who gave it. NWT

Spirit of man is a person!

Back to your explanation:

God is holy, now wicked persons now enter his Kingdom

This is another prove that your demonic doctrine of nothing survives death in human was lie as Bible testifies that something in HUMAN actually returns to God after death.

Oponu....didn't the verse talk about people in GENERAL, whether wicked or righteous?

The fact is, ALL SOULS return to God and they're directed to their destination accordingly.

It's all right since it's not breath of Life but a PERSON , So tell us which nature this persons have in heaven , human nature or divine nature?

Oponu radaradab

it is called "SPIRIT"

I demand to know which Nature this persons have in heaven.

SPIRIT of man

You boycotted my question and I won't spare you for that.

Where was Jesus in ALL THE DAYS he didn't appear to His disciples IN that 40days He spent before final ascension?

" UNTIL the DAY"

ONLY one Ascension, NOT two days BUT a single one .

No wonder you're oponu for life....

UNTIL THE DAY that is the day He was finally taken to Heaven.

Which nature is the person of Jesus when he entered heaven then ?

He was taken to heaven in Human nature in the presence of His disciples.

Wahala for who know no Bible.

" Jesus called out in a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my life. ” After he said this, he took his last breath. " NIRV .

Another reference to breath of life.

"In the beginning, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIRV

Hypocrite!!!

Revelation 13:6 speak about Blasphemy against God's NAME and HiS Temple . This are not persons, are they ?

Likewise when Jesus speak about Blasphemy against Holy Spirit, it reffered to the Father who operates this Spirit.

6 The beast opened its mouth to speak evil things against God. It told lies about God and about the place where God lives. And it told lies about those who live in heaven with him. NIRV

Let your delusion be cured!

Or else your Delusion forget that this description would place Holy Spirit above Christ in authority if it were a person. Delusion grandeur

Says the deluded JWs!

Both means more than one persons. U yourself use " persons " plural

But how many persons did Jesus said Know the day and hour ?

A single ONE .

We know the liar already.

The Holy Spirit is a person and knows the very mind of the Father.

The lying liar JWs like your father the Devil.

Barristter07:
See has he make Emusan look like a fool .

So what is that Spirit that went to the Father?

See this oponu....
How does he make you look like a fool?

Barristter07:
This agitation and energy to defend falsehood.

Says the liar who is having sleepless night because of the falsehood.

ECC 12:7 said ALLL spirit return to God. In heaven

If spirit is a person, that means all persons , WICKED or good persons will end up in HEAVEN. False doctrine of Emusan

I've dealt with this before just that you have short memories

Yes! All spirits returned to God in heaven but their final abode is in the hands of God.

Jesus case also prove spirit of man is not a person

Jesus commit his spirit to the Father , But didn't ascend to heaven until 40 says after his ressurection.

Yes Jesus committed His spirit to the Father and the Father can decide where the spirit can be. Just as the everyone spirit returns to God and God put them in where they belong.

Emusan here is talking about Final Ascension, that is, there are two Ascension this man is an heretic.

Let's as Luke , how many Ascension ?

In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach 2 until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions

That former book contains Jesus life on Earth, Luke stress on that Jesus was around on Earth, UNTIL the day he was taken up

There are no two days of Ascension as the Heretic Emusan will tell us. Just a single day . Luke didn't say Jesus began to do and teach until the day he died and ascend then came back and instruct his Apostles TO HIS SECOND Ascension .

The heretic Emusan , are you listening ?

This proved beyond doubt that human spirit is not a person yet it can know a man's mind. Same apply to God's spirit and that is why Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, cos that's the only person that knows, his spirit is not a person.

Is there anyone outside JWs demonic organization who isn't an heretic?

So saying I'm an heretic doesn't mean anything.

Luke and Jesus Himself were talking about FINAL ASCENSION, even when a great theologian Barnes says it.

Human spirit is a person and Holy Spirit is a person for them to have ability to KNOW.

Only a person has that ability.

The thing is owned by a person and represented the owners authority , this owner is GREATER than Christ.

To think otherwise is to admit Holy spirit is greater in authority than Jesus .

You can only blasphemy against A PERSON, stop lying.

For Christ to say blasphemy against The Holy Spirit means Holy Spirit is a person.

Do you just admit the Father is a person and holy spirit is not ?

If yes, Correct.

If no, The Father is not a combination of two Persons!!!

Both are persons

That's why Jesus made mention of the Holy Spirit directly, reason you're trying to twist the text to another thing.

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil.

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious that Mr Emusan is empty-headed!

All he's here to do is antagonize, abuse, insult and curse JWs, so even if you provide all the proofs in this world Emusan is only out to criticize whatever you say. Note that since i discovered he love exchanging hurtful words i try as much as possible to filter my post so that Mr Emusan won't have any reason to throw insults here and there but instead of him to concentrate on points and deliver what he had, he's still going about with his abusive speeches!

Now what he had to say is "your people also abuses"

Please try to present your points without any abuses and see what Emusan will type in response to continue chatting!

See the hypocrite even if decided to ignore him, he will still find way of sneaking into your mention.

Only you have me more than 3 mentioned, who bewitched you?

Janosky:
New Catholic Encyclopedia proof...
In the old testament, holy spirit is NOT a person...
Any attribute of emotion or intellectual activity to God's holy spirit are mere figures of speech..,"

The New Testament
The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. When a quasi-personal activity is ascribed to God’s spirit, e.g., speaking, hindering, desiring, dwelling (Acts 8.29; 16.7; Rom 8.9), one is not justified in concluding immediately that in these passages God’s spirit is regarded as a Person; the same expressions are used also in regard to rhetorically personified things or abstract ideas (see Rom 8.6; 7.17). Thus, the context of the phrase ‘blasphemy against the spirit’ (Mt 12.31; cf. Mt 12.28; Lk 11.20), shows that reference is being made to the power of God.”


* The New Catholic Encyclopedia have establish the biblical truth that in both old and new testament, with AMPLE EVIDENCES , God's holy spirit is NOT a person, Olodo LIENUS is looking for LIES that can not refute the antecedents in the old and new testament




Na JWs write New Catholic Encyclopedia ?
na JWs go give you the link ?
Bros you too dull

Olodo LIENUS,

No wonder you can't provide the link because you know your deed and that of your father the Devil will be exposed.

Still waiting for link.

Janosky:
"Through him God created everything (minus his Father the God)....."
Olodo LIENUS
this verse clearly states Jesus Christ is not the God Almighty.

You bought an Estate through the Lawyer, is the Lawyer the owner of the property ?

See oponu radarada...

So you agreed Through Him EVERYTHING was created, isn't that ALMIGHTY action in place?

Then why do you buy Estate through a lawyer when you yourself you're a LAWYER?

because if I'm not a lawyer and I use the service of a lawyer, it means the lawyer is greater than me in his profession.

Olodo buruku....

Janosky:
Bros go & read those scriptures in Greek interlinear and stop DECEIVING yourself, Olodo

Now, it's Greek interliner, the lying liar JWs.

* John 1:1 " the word was facing towards the God", Almighty his Father.
The word is not his Father, the God Almighty (in John 1:1,Greek 3588 2316), go and confirm.

Then who says the Word He's His Father?

But the Word Is God

* Hebrews1:2, Greek 3588 2316 is not Jesus Christ, Olodo LIENUS. Go & confirm it.

Imagine, Hebrews 1:2 isn't Jesus Christ but who?

The same way your lying mouth says Jesus of the Bible didn't claim to be Alpha and Omega

Keep lying for your father the Devil.

Colossians 1:16-18 & Matthew 27:43,46
43He trusted God, so let God rescue him now if he wants him! For he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” . 46At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,j lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”

But Col 1:16-18 makes it clear that Jesus is your creator because He created EVERYTHING.

"The first born from the dead " killed by men, crying & begging "my God, my God" , na Almighty God of Emusan,
Bros, your Olodo & LIENUS is legendary

Oponu radarada.....

He became Human before He suffered and died, and became the first born from the death.

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever, just remember that it's only members of JW that's having the same line of thought with me that's why we worship the same way!

That's why I said, he is a true Christian since he has one line of thought with you.

Henrymorre:
are Angels created? don't quote what is not in the Bible please. Prove your points with Bible pages. Can you show me a place where God created Angels from the Bible?

It's like you don't read your Bible for you to ask this.

Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, 16 for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him. Colossians 1:15-16

Unless you want to tell us Angels are not part of heavenly realms

MaxInDHouse:
[s]If you come out to ask people questions, are you interested in what they have in mind or just for them to say something familiar so that you can free them? [/s]

You said me and the OP don't have one line of thought, and when I turned the table to you since you and the OP have the same line of thought, what happened You begin your twisted mouth.

Come on Mr Emusan, you ask me and i answered from the deepest part of my heart yet you throw insults here and there simply because i told you what i believe.

Imagine.... All these emotional blackmail won't work.

Who thrown insults at you because of what you believe?

Didn't you throw insult at people because of what they believe

You See the reason I do call you hypocrite...

This is why you people finds it so difficult to work together in the preaching and teaching program Jesus laid down. Because each of you hides his feelings and say what he/she knew others want to hear!

Yet our populations are more than yours as Christ was with us because without Him we can't do nothing and bring not much fruits.

Noah preached for 120 years Sir and Hurray! He got seven more souls to join him in entering the Ark! Luke 17:26

Lol....It's now Noah!

So you can see that your 8.9m nonsense didn't sell again and the true Christians are making Jesus proud because Jesus said any branch with Him will bring forth more fruits, so your fruitless efforts for 100years means your organization belongs to your father the Devil because he has nothing in Christ.

I answered your question with an open heart so it's left to you if you despise people who are sincere with you! John 8:40

But you can see, your answer is off the rail.

So do you also despise people who are sincere with you or not?

Henrymorre:
your funny. Are spirits not enternal? Are Angels not enternal Is your soul Even not enternal?

No! created beings either spirit or flesh aren't ETERNAL ONLY GOD is ETERNAL, that was the reason I asked you if Holy Spirit is created or not.

Barristter07:
As explained by Jesus, I am Yet to ascend , Are you Yet to ascend if you have been there before ?

Christ added go and tell them I am going. A future tense.

"Yet to ascend" that is FINAL ASCENSION WHERE THE DISCIPLES WON'T SEE HIM LIKE BEFORE grab that into your empty skull.

You said Jesus is a spirit after resurrection but only borrow human form to appear to his disciples.

And we know that spirit lives in heaven, then where was Jesus during the period that He didn't appear to His disciples?

No Fraudster

Act 1:1,2 said Jesus preach , teach on Earth UNTIL the day he ascend .

It was not just discussing after ressurection events .

He didn't say preach , teach, ascend then descend,

I repeat, Luke is still talking about the FINAL ASCENSION.

Where was Jesus during the days He didn't appear to His disciples after 40 days in resurrection?

Spirit of man knows man's mind too, and it's not a person. Let that sink

The spirit of man is a person.

BLASPHEMY statement : another big proof for holy spirit not a person .

Ode....you can only blasphemy against PERSON not thing.

If it was a person, that would make it greater than Christ. But Christ was reffering to the Father who owns that spirit. It's not a separate person.

You can continue to lie to yourself on that.

Show me where you can blasphem against A THING.

You See what I usually say, you people know the truth but decided to twist it and keep deceiving yourself.

So Christ was referring to the Father which means Christ forgot the Father is existing before using A THING in position of the Father.

Continue Jehovah is watching your lies in 5D

Then do you then agree that Jesus also included the Holy Spirit in the Father since the Holy Spirit knows everything about God

Barristter07:
I am YET to ascend would be a LIE .

Only in your deluded head.

I'm yet to ascend as explained by Barnes is so clear that even a nursery pupil can decipher it.

Luke uses the word " UNTIL" which means didn't happen until that moment .

You this fraudster

"Began to do UNTIL" Which is still the same FINAL ASCENSION after resurrection, the scenario you're confusing yourself with is before resurrection.

Which is correct ?

Nobody knows Except the Father - Jesus

Nobody knows Except Father and Holy spirit - Emusan

What I have established here is that
1. The Holy Spirit is a person
2. The Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God (which you can't deny)

So Jesus didn't mention Holy Spirit isn't a problem since Holy Spirit knows everything the Father knows just as Jesus didn't mention the Father in the blasphemy statement.

MaxInDHouse:
NO He is not yet a Christian!
CHRISTIANS are the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6, 15:24} who gathers together for spiritual pastures, so before you can be recognized as a true Christian you must develop a longing for the spiritual food {1Peter 2:2} and find the gathering where it's served consistently {Hebrew 10:24-25} for the fact that he already realized his church (Anglican) is not teaching the truth, whatever makes him staying there further is an indication that he's not one of us (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) we move away once we're not satisfied with what we're been served as food. Revelations 18:4

Just imagine the nonsense....

So it's no longer having the same ONE LINE OF THOUGHT

Can you see the reason why I do say you're so delusional

That's why we keep asking you guys to provide a better performing group as we are fully satisfied that we're getting the best! {Isaiah 65:13} the crying and wailing going on in the churches of Christendom Churches today has been prophesied! Isaiah 65:14

And I'm telling you a better performing group is having more population in less than 30 years than yours with fruitless efforts for over 100years.

Of course it's contradicting! That's why he is still staying in the midst of ridiculers of God's word! Psalms 1:1

Says the deluded who is the very One ridicules the word of God most.

Barristter07:
Nope, Jesus said he hasn't yet ascend and added that he will be GOING . Not Gone.

Yes! Which is final ascension where the disciples won't see Him like before.

That Day wasn't the day he died ?

Luke is talking about the day HE WAS FINAL TAKEN UP TO HEAVEN in Human Form not that HE HASN'T BEEN TO HEAVEN.

Only one person knows, Father.

Do you wanna make Jesus too a liar by your tradition of men ?

And the Holy Spirit is a person and knows the mind of Father.

You're already making Jesus a liar by the tradition of your 8 men.

Barristter07:
Stephen - Heavens actually opened in the Sky ?

Scripture says "Heaven opened" the lying liar JWs says scripture is lying.

So God lied when he said No man can see his Face . Interesting

God didn't lie as NO MORTAL MAN can see His Face and live.

Stephen was FULL OF THE SPIRIT at that time.

So you want to Make God a Liar because of your tradition ?

You're the one making scripture a liar, because Jesus went to heaven in the presence of All His disciples IN HUMAN FORM and your lying mouth says No!

Henrymorre:
hello sir, I am still waiting for the scriptural facts of the question I asked you above. I told you to provide evidence quoting the Bible as reference.thanks.

14 Just think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our consciences from sinful deeds[a] so that we can worship the living God. For by the power of the eternal Spirit, Christ offered himself to God as a perfect sacrifice for our sins. Heb 9:14

Here the Holy Spirit is called ETERNAL SPIRIT and Only God is eternal.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus prayed to his God and Father that his true followers may be ONE in terms of beliefs {John 17:20-23} whatever brings conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings doesn't glorify the true God Sir! Luke 11:23

Now you're talking

Then the OP has one line of thought with you, is he a Christian?

At least his own doctrines and yours aren't contradicting.

Janosky:
Olodo LIENUS shouting Jesus is God no get goggles to read and understand John 20:30-31,
FALSELY claiming Jesus is God, According to John 20:30-31 removes you from eternal life.

Please quarrel with your Bible, no be JWs write am ooo

Just as you lost your own google to read John 1:1, 3; Col 1:16-18, Heb 1:2 e. t. c

Barristter07:
Omoh, I like this kind situation.

No MAN can see God Face and Live . The Almighty cannot lie. To claim humans see God's face in heaven is to make him a liar .

What Stephen see is an ordinary vision, not the Almighty himself.

Act 7:59 he said I saw the heavens opened.

That's Vision. Not that heavens actually opened! The sky remain as it is!!!

See the Oponu radarada....

So what Stephen saw isn't Almighty Himself, then Almighty Now has duplicate or fake form, continue...

Whether vision or not MAN HAS SEEN GOD'S FACE which negates your lying mouth that man can't see His face.

Wasn't the same thing I said earlier when I said MORTAL MAN can't see His face, but only a regenerated man can see God's face.

Whether you like it or not, human are already in heaven beholding God's face, I know none of your members can achieve that because they're not of Christ.

Barristter07:
Barnes never said he went to the Father before that moment .

But Barnes said that's not the meaning of what you said it happened.

Act 1:1,2

1 The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach+ 2 until the day that he was taken up, after he had given instructions through holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen.

Jesus Never went up until that Day .

Liar...

Luke was saying the same thing like when Jesus told Mary not to cling on Him.

"Until the day He was taken up" that is, went up to heaven in the presence of His disciples and He no longer appeared to them.

According to Emusan, Jesus has been taken up before that day?

The spirit can be anywhere before final ascension.

Cognitive dissonance.

Check your two bolded statements, You just make Jesus a liar.

Here is my point again ode oshi

Jesus didn't lie and the evidence from the scripture is that the Holy Spirit is a person because

1. The Holy Spirit has MIND
2. The Holy Spirit has ability to KNOW
3. The Holy Spirit has a will
4. The Holy Spirit can be grieved
5. The Holy Spirit has emotions
6. The Holy Spirit speaks
7. The Holy Spirit can be communicated with
8. The Holy Spirit has fellowship with believers

Janosky:
Greek 5043, olodo LIENUS

So your blind eyes have been opened to see that one...
Oponu...

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, did the New Catholic Encyclopedia make those points in the screenshot ?
Continue DECEIVING yourself and console yourself..
Kpele
Your Trinity mentors disappointed you

Olodo, you no Sabi browse ?
You no get data ?
You no see "New Catholic Encyclopedia" for the Screenshots?
Shame on you

I'm still waiting for the link

You know you just cherry-picked the parts that suit that's why you can't provide the link.

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil