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All these evils world leaders just realize that the world is too cold & quiet, and decided to create some noisy sound for people.

God is watching all of you!

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Compliments of the season sir!

Mayzie:
Clearly you do not possess basic knowledge in physics and geography... So, the explanation will seem like rocket science to you.
But still, i can point you in the right direction. Find a very tall building - about 15 to 30 floors. Get to the top and observe the shape of the earth.

Are you saying from 15-30 floors one can observe the shape of the earth?

If it's true, then one supposed to see the ball earth while inside plane nah....

CAPTIVATOR:
Are you saying what Paul teaches is not part of Christ command?

For the last time, where did Christ command you to GATHER ON SUNDAY?

I even made this point earlier but you stylishly boycotted it....

"Well established enough, Sunday was chosen by the early Christians because it was the day Christ resurrected which is known as "The first day of the week" later "The Lord's Day"
But you and your demonic organization wants to push Christ resurrection to the bin.
Easter cover the period of Christ death to Christ resurrection.....What is your problem with that?"

2Corinthians 6:14-17 . A believer has no business cherishing the religious practices of pagans

Delusions.....

The onus is on you to prove the quote isn't real . Until then you are the delusional one

My point remains, how will you take a quote you yourself haven't verified as truth just because it dances to your tune?

Just like I said earlier, your demonic organization knows exactly how to manipulate you people because they know none of you will bother to verify.

They did same thing in their publication Titled "Should you believe in Trinity?" and many others.

People who refute claim will take pictures, provide link and even original direct writing to support their claims.

What if I have done the same thing about JWs will you have swallowed it or asked me to provide the link?

CAPTIVATOR:
I even gave you another Encyclopedia which is available online saying there was Strong opposition to Birthdays celebration in the first two centuries of Christianity due to it's pagan origin.

It's so shameful how you people rely on external reference to counter scripture..

This is the same way your demonic organization keep referencing Atheists materials in other to proof a point.

And I asked the other time will you have agreed with the author of that encyclopedia if it was against JWs?

Now read this article from that same encyclopedia and tell me if you agree....

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Jehovahs-Witnesses

Lemme see your hypocrisy level.

You are still ranting, The burden of proof is on you to prove it that the quote from world book encyclopedia is wrong .

Even for you to agree with a quote from something you haven't verified yourself shows how dishonesty your are.

Just give me one evident that the quote exists from WB encyclopedia, all I'm asking is, the link to where you got the quote from....

Or you want to tell us that, at this age of information such quote from them can't be found on their website

Who told you Birthday wasnt mentioned, You think mentioning two Birthdays celebration strictly from pagans is just a joke ?

Quote the passage from the scripture where God told the Israelites not to copy birthday practice of Egyptians and Canaanites....or God mentioned birthday as what they should do when they enter the land

I'm waiting...

Rilwayne001:
Buhari was elected with the hope that NASS will not continue this conventional way of embezzling public funds, alas, it keeps getting worse and worse...

I would have said God will punish Buhari, but i would be directing the curse to the wrong person as I'm aware Buhari is just a figurehead vegetable. He's just there like a robot, following whatever the cabals tells him.

May God punish all those holding this country ransom. Amen.

Ehhhhh
I remember shortly after 2015 elections, you regretted voting and supporting Buhari, and you started speaking against his government.

But all of a sudden, you started singing his praises again, which I asked you why and your respond was, maybe you're too fast in judging him.

So what happened again after campaign for him the second time?

CAPTIVATOR:
You want to tell me every book you referenced in your Final Project Bibliography , was seen by you ? You are making a silly ASSERTION here man


The point here is: Did anyone said the book didn't state so ? Have you verified that the quote isn't true ? Funny enough it's quoted all over internet pages talking about birthdays

Just listen to your deluded self...so you don't know anything about the book yet you hold it as truth simply because the internet is full of such quote....

That's why your demonic organization will continue to play fast one you because they know you guys lack the capacity to carry out research on your own.

Are you saying internet isn't full of your demonic doctrines? Did you agree with them?

Just like I said, provide the link here and let's see if such actually exist or not that your demonic organization cherry-picked the quote as they like just as they usually do to any work.

Facts laid bare . Birthday celebration is pagan religious custom

Still from your deluded brain...

So you didn't read where God specifically told the Isrealites not to copy the ways of the pagan nation's around them ? .. Birthdays is one of those practices in pagan religion, case study of the Egyptian Pharaoh in Genesis.

Another baseless claim, adding to the scripture what scripture didn't say.

When God told the Israelites not to copy their practice, didn't God list ALL WHAT they need not to do?

Why birthday was not mentioned? You know more than God....

CAPTIVATOR:
Na only Sunday we dey assembly together . U miss road Bro , see Act 2:42 Christians " continued devoting themselves to the TEACHINGS OF THE APOSTLE "

So Heb 10:24,25 is one of those teachings

The problem you're having is lack of assimilation....

Where did Christ COMMAND you to gather on Sunday....is the question you're still perambulating with since.

Where exactly did they teach Jesus birthday celebration or death day celebration?

Where exactly did they condemn Jesus birthday celebration?

Why was birthday a pagan custom to this early Christians ?

I'm still waiting for your support data on this. Till then it's just your delusional idea.

Are u sure u devote yourself to the teachings of Jesus and his apostles ?

And where from Jesus Himself and the Apostles' teachings birthday celebration was condemned?

CAPTIVATOR:
The Facts are there man, don't drag it ... Unless you are able to prove the book never said so . I challenge you to that.

Typical JWs....

How did you get the book That's the question....

imagine, telling me to do research on a book that even you yourself didn't know anything about or having it in possession.

I'm very sure, you haven't even seen the cover of the book talkless of laying your hands on it but just because your evil organisation made a quote from it, you must agree with it without verification.

Jesus doesn't have to condemn what his faithful followers already condemn,
It's like asking Buhari to condemn something the Constitution already condemn.

Isrealites we're told not to imitate the pagan practices of the nation's around them . Let it sink

I assume Scripture is the Constitution here....so where was it written?

Jesus doesn't need to condemn but you and your demonic organization are in the right position to condemn...delusions!

It means you know more than Jesus....

CAPTIVATOR:
Unless it is not that same Jesus that inspired PAUL to be his apostle . So am still obeying Jesus.

Now it's from Jesus to Paul...but you're bragging quoting what Christ only COMMANDED before....mtcheeeee

Also, what Apostle Paul wrote isn't on Sunday but just "....not forsaken assembly together"

Well established enough, Sunday was chosen by the early Christians because it was the day Christ resurrected which is known as "The first day of the week" later "The Lord's Day"

But you and your demonic organization wants to push Christ resurrection to the bin.

Easter cover the period of Christ death to Christ resurrection.....What is your problem with that?

Which one have you quote to support your claim of birthday and Easter celebration command ? None . Just some man made rules .

I don't need to because scripture silent on it so I don't need to say what scripture didn't say but for you, you turned youraelf to God to declare what God didn't say.

Janosky:
No dull yourself.
JWs go to our kingdom Halls several days weekly, not restricted to Sundays.
We are not Sunday Sunday churchgoers.
The ancient Israelites set the standard of meeting together, copied by Christ followers& Jehovah's people today. We meet regularly for fellowship and interchange of encouragement. It's standard practice among Jehovah's people . Acts 2:1,42,44,46. Deu31:12. Hebrew 10:24,25.

If not because your brain is paining you....you wouldn't have vomited this nonsense.

Show me where Christ COMMANDED YOU to go to your lying Hall every Sunday or any other day?

If the question is bigger than your brain, stop quoting me. okay!

CAPTIVATOR:
Going to kingdom Hall is an Obedience to Hebrews 10:24,25 .

Show us where any apostle or followers of Christ encourage such pagan practice ?

Where exactly did Jesus command you to go to your Hall on Sunday?

That's the question, since you're emphasizing on WHAT CHRIST COMMANDED....

But see your life, you have to quote another scripture to support your claim.

CAPTIVATOR:
Mr, it's a Book ... Not website , I already gave you the reference and for the one I posted which was available online, Encyclopedia Brittanica , The facts are laid bare . Everyone knows it has pagan source. Google is your friend to read more

So how did you get the book?

Smile...everyone knows! Yet you can't provide support for your claim.

Will you agree with the author of that article had it been it was against JWs? Don't boycott my question again...

Tribe ? Herod origin is from Edom. He didn't practice the Jewish religion either

Eh....eh...

But why Jesus didn't allude to this to warm His disciples as even a great event that taken the live of the only FORERUNNER of Christ?

Can you imagine, isn't the Fact that someone who doesn't have a good standing with God does it yet none of faithful ones does same, should ring a bell .

No! it should be the best time for Christ to OPENLY CODEMN IT if the event can even take the live of the ONLY FORERUNNER of Christ.

CAPTIVATOR:
Where exactly did Jesus command Easter ?
" teach them to observe the things I COMMANDED YOU " .

Where exactly did Jesus command you to go to Hall on Sunday?
So you're acting out of Christ command....continue

CAPTIVATOR:
Why do u love ignorance like these ...

I gave u the reference .

Here is another


Encyclopedia Brittanica

" In particular, during the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs or, for that matter, of Jesus. Numerous Church Fathers offered sarcastic comments about the pagan custom of celebrating birthdays "

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christmas

I asked you to provide a link to your World Book encyclopedia you couldn't but you have to come up with another delusional article.

This was written by someone, do you agree with the person just because it's against Christmas?

Then will you agree with the author if he's article was against JWs?

He's not the first person to write against Christmas...

So I'm still waiting for the WB encyclopedia LINK

Na was for you, in the society Jesus grew up in , they don't celebrate birthdays , so. Nothing to condemn in this regard . It's already societally frowned at , And interestingly his first set of disciples came from the same society , and they all also refrain from birthday celebration

Olodo....Wasn't John the Baptist killed during the time of Jesus on birthday? The person who killed him, which tribe he is and his position?

Isn't the best time for Christ to condemn the practice?

We have many references in the scripture where Christ warned His disciples not to do things the way other do it.

CAPTIVATOR:
Check Wikipedia and Brittanica too

For reference of the world book encyclopedia

WB Encyclopedia (volume 3, page 416) . That's the reference page . Go and do your assignment and get it.

Provide the link here....Hypocrite!

Are they not Jews ? Jews refrain from such practices due to their pagan sources .

So Jews are now our standard to know what is right. Continue.....

My point is, why Jesus didn't condemn it when He knows about it? Since He is aware of it before He died because [b]your point was, Jesus can't condemn what the apostles or early Christians didn't do.

CAPTIVATOR:
Luke 22:19,20 Lord's evening meal . As commanded : Do this in remembrance of me

We can as well say you're celebrating the Christ death, right?

A teaching not commanded by Jesus , celebration of his ressurection .

Have you forgotten Matt 28:19,20 Teach them to observe what ? All the things Jesus command.


Where did Jesus command Easter ?

Where does Jesus command you to celebrate your Graduation?

Besides, You can use the word REMEMBRANCE in place of CELEBRATION so that your confusion can be cured.

Also, Christ resurrection established the Lord's Day which is the same Sunday you gather in your Hall to preach lies and deceits to your members.

CAPTIVATOR:
World book Encyclopedia state " The early Christians did not celebrate His [Christ's] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom."

Provide the link...Hypocrite!

How can Jesus condemn in the Bible something none of his apostles or early followers never attempted ?

So Jesus never heard of Birthday celebration before He died...Yet He condemned many Pharisees and Sadducees attitudes or are they not celebrating birthday

CAPTIVATOR:
So he wasn't ressurected on Nisan 14, why are you now trying to weave Easter with Memorial ?

Men gave the command of Easter not GOD!

What is memorial?
What is easter?

CAPTIVATOR:
What was ressurected , Jesus or ordinary body ?

Dem dey ressurect soul wey no die ?

Clarify yourself more here!

CAPTIVATOR:
Did Jesus ask you to celebrate his ressurection?

Did Jesus ask you NOT to celebrate His resurrection?

Or was he ressurected on Nissan 14 too?

No be only Nissan na Toyota....

And who says He resurrected on Nisan 14

U wonder how Easter even came about for people who don't believe Jesus died talkless of been ressurected. Na im flesh die, not him.

Easter is the celebration of the RISEN LORD JESUS, how is that your headache?

CAPTIVATOR:
The early Christians view the celebration of anyone's birthday as a pagan custom . Many encyclopedias testify to this.

Can you provide a proved data for this?

Even in the Bible, No servant of God celebrated their birthday . Even Jesus himself didn't , so where do you get your idea from ?

There are many things you're doing today and weren't recorded in the Bible....so spare us that!

If Jesus didn't...
Did Jesus say you shouldn't do it or where did Jesus condemn it?

joyandfaith:
he had passover meal with his disciples, started lord evening, arrested and died in nissan 14. read your bible well.

I do not celebrate easter.

Evening....but was arrested and move from prison to prison before crucifixion.

What is the meaning of easter? That's the question

joyandfaith:
ok. what is the root of Christmas and Easter in the Bible?

The root of Christmas is the birth of Christ and the most important event that brings hope for everyone "The death & resurrection of Christ"

How does these pagan?

Which one do you have problem with....
1. The day The Birth of Christ is being celebrated or The actual Birthday of Christ itself?
2. The day Resurrection of Christ is being celebrated or the Death & Resurrection itself?

joyandfaith:
Jesus celebrated passover in nissan 14, after passover he introduced lord super. passover used to be marked on nissan 14 .
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at dusk is the LORD's Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD; seven days ye shall eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work. And ye shall bring an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days; in the seventh day is a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work. ( Leviticus 23:5–8

Yet you claim He died on Nisan 14....

So to you what is easter?

joyandfaith:
Nissan is first month in Jewish calendar which corresponds to March/April in gregorian calendar. Nissan 14 can fall to anyday anyway week-Monday to Sunday not necessary Friday to Monday in Easter celebration.
For next year memorial of christ date Nissan 14 falls on Tueday 7 as against April 10 for good Friday.

Where was it written in the scripture that the Jesus statement "Do this in remembrance of me" should be on Nissan 14?

On which day did Christ broke bread and drank wine with His disciples and said "Do this in remembrance of me"?

jesusjnr:
It seems you miss road, or do you think I'm a worshipper of Paul and see him as the Holy Spirit as you do?

This is a greater revelation than that which Paul had, and if you can't see it I won't blame you, because you've refused to look beyond the man called Paul to Jesus who is the Master.

So next time you see me, don't mistake me for someone who is under obligation to Paul's teachings, for I am only under obligation to the teachings of Jesus.

So keep what Paul said to yourself!

Smile....But Paul's Epistles were part of what you called 66 books of God's word or do you disagree with that?

Anyways, your fruit has identified you.

joyandfaith:
No sir. we commemorate death of jesus in obeying jesus command keep doing this in remembrance of me -luke 22:19. Easter celebration is rooted in paganism. that is why it always falls to Friday to Monday which may not correspond to Nissan 14 exact date jesus was killed in Jewish calendar.

See delusion...

But it has to be in the month and day of Easter....why not doing it in the month like September, October or even January?

Yet you agreed Easter is rooted in paganism....

joyandfaith:
every invention has a inventor. have you asked yourself who invented Christmas and esther? Christmas and Easter were not celebrated until about 300 years after death of 12 apostles. so 12 apostles did not celebrate Christmas and easter? why are we doing ovresabi?

But your organization also celebrates Easter....

jesusjnr:
No I meant His (kind of) death. Everyone dies but no single one has died without sinning.

That's not any kind of death, but the only kind of death that could bring about salvation and eternal lifd.

So His resurrection was just a formality, but His death was a necessity!

Oh I wish I could know the power of His death!

God bless.

Stop turning scripture upside down....

Apostle Paul said "....that I may know the power of His resurrection"

jesusjnr:
Without the birth of Jesus there would be no death, but i prefer to celebrate His death more than His birth, because that's where my eternal comes from.

God bless

Your eternity doesn't come from Christ death rather from Christ resurrection....

Resurrection is the basis of Christianity....

FOLYKAZE:
I am getting confused about him. At a point, he was very evangelical. At a point, he appears to have a disdain for Jesus and Christianity. Now he is bashing white Jesus. I don't understand him at all.

That's how confused he is