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That's why I always say Jehovah witness are the most hypocrites...

Didn't your organization contrast sleep with death?

for instance, the case of Lazarus before Jesus raised him up.

This is a link where your demonic organization categorically said "Death is like a deep sleep"

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20140101/death-is-not-the-end/

Jozzy4:
Thank you, let me repeat this .... Sleep indicate a period of rest . Paul is not saying they won't die . The word sleep is not synonymous with death.

Death Is a criteria to enjoy the first Ressurection which 1Corinthians 15 is all about.

" Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection . Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6 NKJV)

To be a king and rule with Christ for the thousand years , they must experience a Ressurection. So when he says some won't sleep, he is not saying they won't die, but rather unlike those who spent long period in the grave. They would be Ressurection in the twinkling of an eye. No resting like others

Hence a sacred secret.



Here is the verse in full ...

1Thes 4:15-17

" According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

If you are correct, people should presently be going to heaven without dying, cos we are presently at the Lord's coming... Matthew 24 proves this. !!!

So why haven't people been caught into the air ? Or are you guys reading what's not there Into the verse


It's not what you think, hope you can see now?

amijid2012:
Good day all, please how legit is DREKRUTAS?

They are genuine just that they recruit on behalf of companies.

LordReed:
The type of evidence required here has been repeatedly defined, confirmation of the historicity of biblical figures and events. This includes archeological evidence, geological evidence, biological evidence, contemporary historic accounts, etc.

So you want to tell me that you haven't heard about Archaeological evidence of any Biblical figures?

This is pure dishonesty...

Geological evidence in what sense?

Biological evidence....they said Jesus resurrected and you're looking for His biological evidence....

There are contemporary accounts of Him

LordReed:
I am continually astounded by what I didn't know about this book called the Bible. The way I used to think about it was as if there was sufficient evidence at least for the historical veracity of the key figures. Guess what nobody ever showed me that evidence I just assumed it was there. I am sure many Christians likewise just assume the evidence is there but have never bother to actually look nor has anyone really presented them with evidence, they just believe.

It's so funny how you people will just be shouting show us evidence, without defining the type of evidence that is sufficient for you.

Maximus69:
Keep crying!

Shameless liar....
keep lying for your demonic organization

Maximus69:
Almost 9,000,000 and 8.6 million?

A liar doesn't have an iota of shame....

You said JWs are about 9million not ALMOST

You can even see how you reduce 8.7million to 8.6million in just one breath of a thread...to tell you how lies full your head.

Is that how fast people are leaving the evil hall?

Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia presently are trapped Sir!

Any opportunity to leave that country they will leave the next minute, no JW is happy when he's not allowed to go preaching and teaching!

Can you tell us what trapped them there?

Are there still kingdom hall in Russia?

Maximus69:
Bible has helped 8.7 million individuals from different races and tongues to become one global family of peace loving worshipers, yet it's this same message that led Russia to call us TERRORISTS!

I thought you said it's 9 million the other day, how come it has reduced to 8.7 million? Are you the one lying or watchtower again?


So Russia persecuting JWs, yet JWs are still in Russia and you were shouting the other day that the commandment Jesus gave was to FLEE.

So why are there still JWs in Russia despite the persecution?

Can you see your hypocrisy life outside now

Flakky26:
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Please do you have idea about their pay?

Yoruba style of greetings is what Olodumare ordained for mankind....

Prostrate and knee-down for your elders.

With this you can't contact any disease....

Who is your elders? Anyone who is older than you!

happiness4ever:
I believe somebody made this up

No! It's every where already

Even a book written in 2009 "End of Days" by Sylvia Browne specifically mentioned 2020 for the outbreak of the virus!

Legalcriminal:
I pray there is solution before it get to Africa.

The moment it is discovered in Africa forget it Nigeria will be involved

It's already in Algeria

First case confirmed in Africa

See the way you cut out my point....I know you must employ a tactic to divert attention here....

Kindly go back and address my post.

Maximus69:
Your problem has escalated to what can't be solved!

Jesus said i'm sending you as sheep's into the midst of wolves, and you said it means the false prophets.

That is 100% correct!
But what about those been given false prophecies?
Aren't the false prophets prophesying to adherents?

My friend, we are saying the same thing here!

The false prophets will instigate their adherents to attack you while they hide behind the scene!

All those terrorists killing people in the name of religion were taught by some religious leaders (false prophets). So when Jesus said "i'm sending you into the midst of wolves", he is talking about those who will appear innocent to the public but in secret they're the ones promoting terror!

Provide the place where I said the @color part....failure to do so.....

You're known for false accusations, you repeated it here again.

Maximus69:
You called us hypocrites yet you're the one not having rest of mind when you see JWs make comments!

Your hypocrisy is high to heaven...
Just as you don't have rest of mind whenever you see any topic

You called us idol Worshipers yet you're the same person worrying your head due to the peace of idol Worshipers instead of going to look for people to preach to!

Answer my question and stop being silly to divert attention here....

Why will God who hates idolatry still goes ahead to anoint and declare Russell and other JWs Holy

How did you know Boxing is violent by even cited the scripture and your GB didn't know for football

Jesus and his followers only go to people who wants to learn from them, it's the Pharisees, Saddusees and Scribes that do come up against Jesus and his followers with antagonistic questions to stop them from preaching and teaching!

I'm still waiting for your answers...
Any attempt to boycott those questions and divert attention won't be allowed here.

If you kill yourself with cardiac arrest or high blood pressure your blood will be on your own head!

Just as your blood always rises anytime you see the truth.

Jehovah's Witnesses are about 9,000,000 in number globally today and we are conducting Bible study with over 18,000,000 people globally. So your antagonism is taking you nowhere Sir!

Glory be to God...at least the population has suddenly rose from 8million you claim last year.

But tell us why GB hasn't issue instruction to ban JWs from watching football since Jehovah hates it...

Why is it that only you know about what Jehovah hates and others including your GB didn't know

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi this your animosity for the truth is getting out of hand!

See the person whose father is the devil claiming to know the truth....

Can light and darkness be in one place?

You said Jesus send his followers as sheep into the midst of wolves. OK i said it means wolves in sheep's clothing NOT fierce killers, you began arguing blindly again.

Imagine, instead for you to admit that you goof biggerly you want to twist the narrative again....

"You said it means wolves in sheep's clothing NOT fierce killers" Liars....misinterpreting the scriptures! Jesus already clarified who the wolves in sheep's clothing are they are FALSE PROLHETS and Jesus didn't send you to false prophets because the false prophets will only be judged by Jesus Himself.

Stop lying....

Now clarify what you mean about Jesus' statement, am i right for saying he is sending his followers as sheep into the midst of wolves in sheep's clothing or not? [/quite]

Liar....Jesus clarified in His statement who the wolves in sheep's clothing is they are false prophets like JWs who pretend to be sinless, peaceful and Godly but only to be scattering the sheep because they don't care for the sheep when wolves show up.


I even added John 10:11-13 to buttress my point yet you can still turn your blind eyes to it.

[quote]Jesus clarified his statement at Matthew 10:11-15

Liar....Jesus clarified who the wolves in sheep's clothing are..they are false prophets

Note the difference: The false prophets are the one COMING TO YOU like JWs are doing today while the true Christians were SENT TO THE MIDST OF WOLVES.

Any city that doesn't welcome his message, just shake off the dust of your feet and leave.
Now you're arguing blindly that Jehovah's Witnesses should stay in wartorn areas WHERE THERE IS NO PEACE!

Then I asked, what is kingdom Hall of Jehovah's witnesses still doing in a war torn area like Bornu state

Did you answer my question? So you're disobeying Christ!

Besides, this is when you go to a place to preach NOT WHEN YOU'RE AN INDIGEN OF THAT PLACE.

Had it been you answer my question from beginning you won't repeating your ignorance here again.

Jesus' followers are to go from house to house {Matthew 10:12-13} how could that be possible in a wartorn area?
Will you open your door to strangers while living in a wartorn zone?

Why has JWs not abandon war torn zone like Bornu state? You haven't answered this!

The truth of the matter is that you people have been taught the wrong thing all along and you're not ready to accept correction. Jesus' followers shouldn't stand in a public square shouting at passersby when what you're saying totally contradicts the beliefs of those accommodating you!

See coward who has been brainwashed to run always from sheep talking here...

All you need is approach them one by one to reach the heart of each one of them, by so doing lovers of peace will suffice. NOT when you just stand in their broadways condemning their beliefs openly without giving them the privilege to reason along with you.

If you ran away like cowards and the terrorists took over every places, will you have opportunity to approach anybody

Isn't the same terrorists you ran away from that will occupy everywhere

Cowards....just like I said earlier just that you're too blind to see all my points... "if everybody ran away like cowards JWs will you have neighbourhood to preach?"

For your information, when Jehovah's Witnesses go to places where you people have not annoyed the inhabitants with your troubles they listen and welcome us!

Imagine, see annoyed the inhabitants after they make peace with them and your demonic organization will later come to say their not Christian.

It's your unchristian approach towards the preaching work coupled with aggression that's causing the troubles!

No wonder the true Christians are in the deep villages ravaged by terrorists today and making peace with villagers with the word of hope from Christ and many turning to Christ why your evil organisation will chicken out and later come to cause confusion.

There is nothing different from your beliefs and theirs.
©Noisy prayers.
©All good people go to heaven.
©Bad people will be tormented forever inside burning fire.
©Long and repetition in prayers.
©God's friend have material things.
©Human effort can make life better.
©Festivities not found in scripture.
©Loud megaphone in religious centers.

This are the things that are giving you headaches no wonder....

There is practically no difference in your approach towards worship and their own, so what have you got to tell them? other than "my own God will roast you alive in fire if you don't subscribe to our religious beliefs"
Isn't that the same thing they're saying?

And you didn't torment anybody with "Jehovah will destroy you at Armageddon if you're not part of us"
Hypocrite!

Jehovah's Witnesses will visit them IN THEIR HOMES, greet them in the manner of their own local people and make proper introduction before presenting our message of PEACE. Matthew 10:11-13

You only visit after true Christians have stood by them through the time your cowards organisation ran away when they were been ravaged by the terrorists.

So if you're still in doubt that we are the true Christians, please continue with your religion and see if there can ever be PEACE with the approach of your cohorts, even amongst yourselves as in those claiming Christians THERE IS NO PEACE. Because you stand in public squares and buses to condemn the worship of your fellow who also claims to be a Christian, whereas you never approached him in private to discuss issues one on one in order to iron out your differences!

To think only JWs approach people to preach to them one on one is height of dishonesty I ever seen.

Just call Jehovah as your witness if you haven't been approached by any Christian to share bible with you in your life.

Maximus69:
You are not confused, yet as a Christian you want to sit down comfortably watching and hailing two persons hitting each other with fury, because of the money you pay to watch them do so!

Actually, I don't even watch football not to talk of Boxing.

But I joined this thread to expose your hypocrisy!

In other to defend your demonic organization, you have to come with "Those JWs watching football aren't spirit filled...blah blah " just because some JWs also watch football which is a violent sport and you must find way of making them sinless.

You even went further to defend GB for not issue any memo condemning football by saying "God will only punish what He condemned"

Which I asked you, how you yourself know God hates boxing when you already supported your claim with scripture and your GB didn't know?

The reason you're so confused is because if you're asked questions you won't attempt it but spew thrashes instead.

Well JWs have our own God and he totally differs from yours,so don't expect what we believe to be the same as yours. After all you said we are demonic, definitely you shouldn't expect a demonic organization to do things the way your HOLINESS will do!

This doesn't explain how an idol worshipper like Russell and other earlier JWs could be anointed and declared Holy by God who hates idolatry!

Hypocrite!

Maximus69:
Russell is believed to be part of the anointed brothers of Christ.
This group are saved by special underserved kindness (grace)! Ephesians 2:8
They exercised faith in the little they knew in connection with Jesus so God anointed them and declared them "HOLY".

For instance, some Christians in the first century died without seeing the fulfilment of certain prophesies, this means their interpretation of such prophecies will be partial {1Corinthians 13:9-10} but since they were faithful in the little they knew, God counted them worthy of the anointing.

He believed to be part of anointed....and God anointed them and declared HOLY!

So Russell and other JWs AN IDOL WORSHIPPER could be anointed and declared HOLY...one of the seventh wonders of JWs.

Down through the dack ages, many people claimed they believe in Jesus yet practice Catholicism, but because they never had the chance to know anything better God counted them worthy of his anointing based on their loyalty and faithfulness.
He is merciful to those who humbly work on what they knew as righteousness,

I bet your organization will disagree with you here....

Anyways, what can a confused person won't say!

but those opposing good works even after seeing it's benefits will not be forgiven! Luke 12:10

Can you tell us the people who are opposing the good works today?

Maximus69:
Jesus sent us as sheep in the midst of WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING Sir!

When you're adviced to leave online arguments defending demonic organization and focus on finding the real Christ by studying your Bible, you won't listen. See how you're disgracing yourself.

Are terrorists false prophets Christ classified as wolves in sheep clothing

So the wolves in Jesus' illustration are wicked people who pretends to be nice, kind and gentle. NOT fierce killers!

See perfect description of Jehovah witness here, "....Jesus' illustration are wicked people who pretends to be nice, kind and gentle."

Olodo....See how you confused Matthew 7:15 where Jesus talked about false prophets like JWs with when Jesus sent His disciples into the world....

This is the verse "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matt 10:16

So are terrorists the false prophets

This verse is in corroboration with John 10:11-13
Where Christ who is our role model is the Good Shepherd who is ready to lay down His life for the sheep.

And Christ went further to say, the Hireling saw the wolves coming, ran and abandon the sheep's....Just exactly what your demonic organization has been doing.

Then what happened?
Christ said, the wolves will catch the sheep and scattered them. Simply because the person is an hireling and DOESN'T CARE FOR THE SHEEP...

Can you see how these scriptures perfectly describe the real spirit in JWs

Yes before our own God, only members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization are doing his will today. You can say anything against us, you can also say your God is this and that it's a welcome development but just know that WE AREN'T WORSHIPING THE SAME GOD WITH YOU Sir!

Of course only JWs doing the will of their father the Devil...because Devil is a liar and false accuser!!

Just see how you boycotted all my questions without attempting them...

Liar, Coward couple with Hypocrite!

Maximus69:
Don't kill yourself of blood pressure!

A coward who run for terrorists....

It's not compulsory you and i believe the same thing, you read, meditate and apply. I also read, meditate and apply

Did Jesus not send you as a SHEEP in the midst of WOVES Are WOVES peace lover

These are the questions you'll never answer because it will simply expose your ignorance if the scripture.

Continue with your GOOD works and we also continue with our GOOD works, let God be the judge, after all each person will carry his own load! Galatians 6:5

When you are caught inbetween then you change tune....

So you believe I'm doing GOOD works, but you people have been claiming it's only JWs that are doing the good works...

Deluded person....
So you know this yet you turn yourself to God by judging what should have left for God to decide....

Maximus69:
It's the race to everlasting life Sir!

In this race everyone WHO KEEPS RUNNING will get the prize. Some are faster than others that's why Paul a Jew who never walked with Jesus side by side could correct Peter (a close acquaintance of Jesus) Galatians 2:11-14

So learn from the example of faithful servants of God, God called them faithful simply means "they have remained faithful in the little they knew about him" Luke 16:10

They have not qualified for the prize until they're taught what Jesus taught Christians!

That's why they will be resurrected to be taught the law of Christ before they can have everlasting life!

As for Russell, he was faithful in the little he knew back then that's why Jesus picked the group he started and today about 9,000,000 individuals from all over the earth have been gathered, we always remember his works though he is not our founder otherwise we won't have learnt so many new things. Unlike your own churches who have remained in the teachings of their imperfect founders, Jehovah's Witnesses are ever improving! Proverbs 4:18

I guess Russell and other idol worshippers will be resurrected and taught the same....waoooo!

Whereas your demonic organization has already classified Russell and the early JWs as part of the 144,000 saints....imagine an idol worshipper being part of the Saints.

You're dodging my question because you know your lying mouth will be shut.

How did you know Jehovah hates violence through scripture and others have not known it which make it A GRADUAL PROCESS

Didn't this show that your demonic organization knows Jehovah warning but failed to yield to it instead making people died in what Jehovah hates?

Lastly, are those who died in this gradual process, will be resurrected back so that they will be taught again?

Maximus69:
We are searching for LOVERS OF PEACE as Messengers of Godly peace!

Even Jesus said He sent His followers as a SHEEP in the midst of WOVES, please are WOVES a lover of peace?

Keep living a coward life simply because your deluded organization said so.

I repeat, after the true Christians make the area peaceful boom your demonic organization will then come and be claiming they must be part of your evil organisation.

That's why you won't see any Kingdom Hall in many deep remote villages until Christian missionaries have conquered the place. Later they'll come and be preaching false doctrines claiming to be a peaceful people.

So if you're not ready for peace, we'll leave your territory in PEACE! Matthew 10:11-13

And after some people paid the price to ensure peace when your cowards members ran away, you'll late come and be claiming nonsense.

Again, what is kingdom Hall of Jehovah's witnesses still doing in a state like Bornu state

Follow your reasoning, it means your organization is disobeying the instructions of Jesus Christ for not have shutting down their activities in those states...

Coward couple with Hypocrite!

Maximus69:
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, so that whosoever believe (trust in his teachings) will not perish but have everlasting life~Jesus. John 3:16

Many faithful servants of God lived their lives before the coming of the Christ, which means they don't have the opportunity to know what he taught.

Please what becomes of such ones?

Listen to yourself....why were they called FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF GOD

Well as i've told you IT'S A GRADUAL PROCESS, God doesn't judge you for what you've not be warned, he only judge stubborn and obstinate sinners! Act 3:17 & 19

Something that's is gradual means some people are already know about it, so what is stopping GB to issue a general instruction about it if Jehovah hates it?

"God will not judge you for what you have not been warned," isn't God already hate idolatry?

Isn't Jehovah hates football? how did you know He hates it if He has not warned before?

Delusion! You quoted scripture to support the reason why God hates violence, yet you're claiming those people are not yet warned about it....

Why will Jehovah allow Russel to die as an idol worshipper?

Maximus69:
It's a gradual process Sir!

Those remaining behind in the organization will WASH THEIR ROBES in the blood of the lamb and become PEACE lovers under the direction of the Prince of Peace!

So what happened to those who died before this gradual process end?

Will they be resurrected or abandoned in the grave because they watched violent football which Jehovah hates but failed to communicate it to the GB?

Just as Jehovah allowed Pastor Russell and many JWs to died as an idol worshippers.

Maximus69:
It's OK Sir!

You practice what you preach and understand, we will also do the same. Our own preaching is about peace, we believe in leaving the area for trouble makers and warmongers to prove we're ever ready for PEACE!

So those people OP talked about who return back to their burnt houses & church are ready to make war...

@underlined at least it's good the way you revert your statement, with that it's your personal decision NOT WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS as you stated earlier.

So tell your demonic organization to keep running from persecutors but remember if not for those who found their strength and hope in Christ to stand against those terrorists, your organization won't have neighbors to preach to.

Maximus69:
Of course i'll play football with my brothers and sisters in Paradise, but not with the spirit of competition!

It's the competitive spirit that's making people desperate to the point of getting injured.

So true Christians do have fun but no competition!

So will this stop JWs watching a violent sport?

And where is the memo from GB that JWs should not watch football?

Maximus69:
I don't find anything worth picking from your ideas that's why i don't ask you questions about whatever you believe.

And you want another person to pick a word from your delusions...

It's you that's been trailing me to ask questions and when i tried to explain how i am applying what i learnt from the Bible, all you do accuse accuse and accuse JWs.

Who quoted me on this thread....
Actually I know, Satan children are always like their father....liars everywhere!

Instead of addressing the question you threw in the air to show a better application of the scriptures all you've been doing is arguing!

When it's so obvious that it's JWs who will leave the subject matter and begin to beat about the bush...

And you're not arguing that's why you must appear on most thread on Nairaland....

Jesus have spoken and Jehovah's Witnesses have acted upon it based on their understanding of what they read. But you kept saying they didn't get it right, OK show us a better way to apply Jesus' instruction, no way!

If they get it right, I pray what is the kingdom hall still doing in a state like Bornu and Adamawa

Aren't you disobeying Jehovah by not leaving such places?

Hope you're not an accuser of God's people?

To you I'm not a Christian, so you don't need to HOPE...just go straight to your point.

because I asked you what Kingdom Hall still doing in Bornu state or Adamawa state when Jesus has instructed them to leave now make me an accuser of God's people...

Even Muslims who love peace in wartorn areas like Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Syria and the rest are RUNNING AWAY FROM SUCH PLACES, they are going in search of peace. You insist PEACE lovers must stay in the midst of terrorists!

So are you saying there are no single JWs in those places?

If there are still JWs, what are they still doing there?

If everybody abandon a place for terrorists to take over, who will be your neighbor? I guess the same terrorists....

The Kingdom Halls you find in Russia today we're built when we have PEACE of mind to worship our God, but when there is persecution we can't carry or demolish it so we leave the place for them!

So you mean there is no single JWs in Russia as we speak?

If there is, why are they disobeying Christ?

Okay, let's even assume there's no JWs in Russia again, does it mean God is done with Russia that is, nobody can repent in Russia again

Jesus' order says "FLEE" so explain what he meant let us learn from your own application of what Jesus taught!

Now you're talking!

Copy from a post: "....flee ye into another; not so much for their own safety, though this, according to the circumstances of things, is lawful, but for the further spreading of the Gospel. The exhortation is not to take methods to avoid persecution, or to make an escape from it, but to perseverance under it: the sense is, they were not to be discouraged, and to leave off, because of persecution in one place, but to persist in the ministration of the Gospel, by carrying it to other cities; and it seems to be a spur to them to make haste, and fulfil their office of preaching the Gospel, in the land of Judea: nor need they fear going on too fast, lest they should have no places to preach in;"

See this expository and compare it with the meaning GB implanted in your head, which then make you a cowards and at the end you end up having no neighbors.

Just imagine if we should follow kingdom hall advice, and all Christians in the north have moved to the South, do you think the terrorists will limit their activities in the North Before you know, their target will be the South, so where will you run to?

But because many people still find their strength and hope in Christ and refuse to allow terrorist to take over the north, you think you have peace down south....

May the good Lord open your eyes so that you can appreciate the courage of those who stood their ground to defend their land against the terrorists.

Maximus69:
Your aggression will not allow you pick a word from what any JW is trying to say, you've already barricaded your mind towards whatever a JW has to say.

Have you ever pick anything from another person since you join Nairaland apart from your lie lie brothers?

So there is no need asking questions when you will not calm down to listen and sought out what we have in mind.

Failure to answer those questions means you don't want to face the reality and the truth.

What is kingdom Hall still doing in a place like bornu state and Adamawa or are they not war torn area?

There is nothing to be recorded from such wartorn area because the order form Jesus and the organization is FLEE from wartorn areas.

I'm asking, what is Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's witnesses still doing in bornu state? So you people disobeyed Jesus Christ...

So after your cowards organisation ran away and the true followers of Christ stayed to keep peace, then your organization will come and started condemning those people of being fake and not serving the true God.

Immediately trouble begin to escalate in any region, what our people do is find a way to get their families to a safer place, and Jehovah's Witnesses in other lands are ever ready to welcome them.

That's what a coward does, but after the true Christians made peace you will then come and be condemning them of serving false God.

So if you find any Kingdom Hall in those places, know today that Jehovah's Witnesses will NO MORE MEET INSIDE IT ONCE THE PLACE IS NOT SAFE!

Why do you enjoy lying just to defend your organization

So to you presently there's no meeting going on in any Kingdom Hall in Maduguri or Adamawa...

Our priority in life is to preach and teach people in our neighborhood the good news of God's Kingdom. So whatever makes that impossible means our lives as Jehovah's Witnesses will be worthless in such places!

The neighbourhood the true Christians has ensure peace to reign, if everybody ran away like cowards JWs will there be any neighbourhood for you to preach the good news

This just confirmed what I've been saying since....

Just have it at back of your mind that if everybody ran away there won't be neighbors talkless of having neighbourhood...then you should know how you people have greatly misinterpreted the scripture.

Maximus69:
When the persecution in Judea began, the Christians were not expecting that they will become the main target of rival Jewish religious groups, since they weren't dragging issues with anyone.

But when they later discovered that they're no more safe on their own soil, they left Jerusalem!

But they were all still killed by those persecuting them, isn't it?

So you don't understand what Jesus meant by that statement....before you jump on it as a reference.

You can find this stories in encyclopedias and other secular history books or better still Google (Roman soldiers destroyed Jerusalem)

Everyone knows that but the point here is the Apostles later confronted their persecutors which later lead to their death.

You still haven't answered my question, what is kingdom Hall of Jehovah's witnesses still doing in a war torn zone like Maduguri, Adamawa e. t. c if you people are following the instruction of Jesus Christ "Leave"

You said you know an elder who used to watch football matches, so i thought you should be able to ask from him if spirit filled JWs do watch football matches!

So because I said I know then automatically means the man is my friend....SMH

Maximus69:
Save the rest of your questions for your elder friend, just tell him one of his brothers told you that

spirit filled members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization don't watch football matches.

Patiently listen to his response, then you can get back to me!

That's how you'll be dodging questions and at the end you'll be claiming superman!

Answer those questions or you remain silent!

Where did you see elder friend Oma se oooo

If could remember vividly, your point that time was that football is a good sport and Jehovah loves it that's why Jehovah will even let you people play football in your paradise.

But today, out of your confusion and delusion, your tune has changed!

Not that you don't like football or most JWs don't like it but just for you to proof Tyson furry wrong is what lead you to this back and forth confusion.

You can't eat your cake and also have it.

TATIME:
I'm suspecting this Emusan of a person!

Suspecting me! Waoooo Glory be to God in the Highest

It's evident that he is one of those their pastors because this is exactly their attitude towards the truth.

I thank God you could recognise this!

Notice his response to what happened to the first century Christians, he is not interested in that instantly he dismissed it as NONSENSICAL!

It's nonsensical because it's out of the subject matter and I don't have time to waste time.

This is a person who claims to be following the footsteps of those whose stories and practices were recorded in the Bible!

You're right and I'm ready to die for the course of Christ unlike your brother who adviced me to run to a peaceful place when the Apostles confronted their persecutors.

Who is following the foot step among us now?

So i'll implore you to let him be, you've done your part, who knows whether this is the last call from the angels to save him from been brutalized by those terrorists.

Imagine so you're the angel now, a coward JWs who only wants to enjoy the peace people fought for.

Just like I said, after people fought for the peace of land and Christ helped them to overcome their persecutors, your demonic organization will then show face only to be claiming those people were never a true Christian.

If he feels like staying in their midst to fight for his right or for his own Jesus it's ok!

Didn't Jesus say His followers will be persecuted and killed?

Besides, you people have not addressed the main point here which is THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE where do you want them to run to?

Why did Jws in the south has not go to the North and evacuated all the witnesses there so that there won't be any JWs in the north again.

Lastly, what are JWs still doing in the north if they are following Jesus commandment of leave is that not disobedient

Maximus69:
The Apostles were the main target of Satan {Revelations 12:17} the Jews kept trailing them everywhere they go until they killed them all, except John who wrote the last book.

The story is true though it may sound nonsensical to you but we do learn from their experience! Romans 15:4

Stephen was killed where?

So why John didn't run or was he not persecuted?

Remember what lead to this, is the Jesus statement you referenced in case of Garkida when you asked me to leave and I asked you what of THOSE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE living in their fathers land?

You will find those who have been trapped there but as soon as they are able to escape my brothers and sisters will leave those places! Matthew 10:23

Pure lies.....i don't know why you so soon much derive joy in lying for your organization.

The Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's witness can still be found in many part of maduguri today, not just individuals. Was the whole congregation trapped

It's just to save the cost of ever increasing house rents that makes a spirit filled Christian think of building a house now. What we NEED is
©Food to fill our stomach and continue our preaching work.
©Clothes to cover our unclothedness and appear presentable to householders.
©Place to lay our heads and sleep for the next day. Matthew 6:26-34

So you didn't make use of your brain when you claimed you people don't have home....so now you must build in other to save cost....is this what your brother term as accumulating material things?

Also, you only want to continue your work in a peaceful environment where many even surrendered their lives to create....COWARDS PEOPLE!

When you have the money to invest so as to get enough to eat and enjoy with your family, it's OK but don't depend on what you have because you might be asked to let go of it at anytime! Matthew 19:16-22 compare to Luke 12:15-21

You're accumulating material things by investing....

So have you inquire from your elder friend what i said about the attitude of spirit filled JWs towards football matches?

When did I say I have an elder friend of JWs

Maximus69:
If you know better please enlighten us so that we can also learn from you how to improve!

What my brother said is according to the Bible book of Psalms 24:1, Jehovah's Witnesses strongly believe in those words. So if we want to practice our sacred service to our God, we can move to anywhere that's conducive!

We don't insist on staying with people who don't want peace.

Your brother talked about accumulation of material things....where did we talk about that in our discussion

There is no single member of our organization who will insist on staying in wartorn areas, because our brothers and sisters in other parts of the earth are ever willing to welcome us home to themselves.

And this brought us back to my first post, if no member of your organization insists on staying in a war torn area, after the Christ help His true followers to resist the persecutors BOOM YOUR DEMONIC ORGANIZATION WILL COME AND STARTED ENJOYING PEACE THEY RUN AWAY FROM AND CLAIM no true Christians in that area unless they become your member.

The only reason why you can find one of us in such a place is when he/she is trapped with his family, once the opportunity is open our brothers and sisters will take their leave.
That's the order form Jesus!

So someone can be trapped by his family, I thought Jesus instruction was to leave to another place! So Jesus didn't know a person can be trapped.

That's why I said, you didn't understand Jesus statement before you referenced it.

Maximus69:
Jesus gave the other and when the time came for his followers to leave, they left their home country and scattered throughout the earth!

So why were the Apostles killed then

The persecution that arose in Judea back then wasn't about religion Sir, it was politically motivated.
There were different schools of thought in Judea, each has their own followers, the Roman empire do appoint one High Priest over the people who takes control of the politics in Judea. The other Jewish Rabbis were also agitating for their turn to present the next High Priest but the Pharisees and Saddusees have dominated that position. That's why they conspired to do away with Jesus who is now gaining favor from the people, their fears is that Jesus will take away all their followers and they will have no pedigree (weight) before the Roman empire! John 11:48

So while all these rival groups are fighting themselves underground, their leaders singled out Jesus' followers as the group to be exterminated, that's why they were all against the Christians but yet they themselves don't have one line of thought! Act 23:1-9

But when the Romans finds out that the Jewish religious setting is not keeping that province at PEACE, they sent soldiers to destroy Jerusalem and it's temple!

So Jesus' order was timely, Roman soldiers surrounded Jerusalem to destroy it, instead of the Jews to FLEE their homes, they were planning to stay and defend their city. But the Christians remembered Jesus' words {Luke 21:20-24} and they left Jerusalem for good!

Initially there was no way for escape because the Roman soldiers surrounded Jerusalem, but because Rome needed more soldiers to complete the conquest of an ongoing war, they called all those encamping Jerusalem, that was when the Christians took their chance to FLEE.

The rest of the Jews thought it was a miracle or perhaps God is fighting against Rome on their behalf, until when the angry Roman soldiers returned, they didn't wait outside the city as they did earlier, this time they entered and it was a great genocide that has never occurred nor will it ever happened again!

Nonsensical stories

So true Christians don't have a home now in this system of things Sir, anywhere we have the opportunity to preach and teach is our home!

Are you saying all JWs have evacuated from war torn zone around the world?

Are you saying, no single JWs can be found in a place like bornu state or Adamawa state?

Yet you build house and buy land...liars