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Perfectbeing:
To a layman, gravity is that force that pulls down every object with mass towards to earth surface.

Ok

Is it the word "gravity" the bone of contention or the force itself (which existence can't be denied) that pulls down every object.. I want to know.

The bone of contention here, is how this force behaves mysteriously.

wirinet:
It has to do with the velocity of the object falling due to gravity. If the object is projected beyond the Earth's escape velocity in a direction opposite that of gravity, then it will escape the Earth's direct pull and gravity will make it orbit instead at a distance in proportion to the velocity.

If the plane travels faster than 11km/s, it will escape the earth. If the engine is then switched off, it will continue to orbit the earth perpetually.

Check the diagram below for better explanation. If Vo is more than 11.2km/s the projectile will enter into orbit instead of falling to the ground.
It is still earth's gravity that will keep it in earth's orbit.

It's just so unfortunate that you never factor every point on my post before you vomited this.

The point is, if the plane lost engine power above earth's atmosphere which is called SPACE, will it fall to the ground or wandering around?

Better put, if there was a space travel to the Moon and in few miles to the Moon, tragedy struck suddenly and all the so called astronauts found themselves in outer space, is gravity going to pull them to the ground (earth's surface from the height) or make them wandering around?

The butterfly wings offers air resistance against gravity. The force of the air from the radiator fan sucking the flies, is greater than gravity of the earth. Remember, the flies have wings and low mass, that helps counteracts the effect of gravity. If you substitute the flies with the same volume of lead, the fan will not be able to suck it.

I gave up after reading this brainwashed thing you wrote @bold&underlined

wirinet:
The plane that has lost its engine has nothing to exert an equal and opposite force, so it's in a free fall (weightless) until it hits the ground.

This is where the lies of gravity is exposed which you're too blind to see....

Did you realize that if the same thing happened in the so called SPACE, the plane won't fall to earth's surface rather it will be floating aimlessly around the earth like in a orbit.

The plane falls to the ground because force of gravity is pulling the plane downwards with an acceleration of 9.81m/s/s.
Floating is not the same thing as weightlessness. The plane is free falling, but objects in the plane falling at the same rate with the plane will seem to float in reference to the plane.

Isn't the same force of gravity that allows moon to stay in its orbit?

Why didn't the moon fall to the ground?

The moon too is free falling on the earth, that's why it is orbiting the earth. The same thing as satellites above the Earth's surface.

You claim both plane and moon are in free fall yet one fall to the ground and the other one is in orbit, then I asked, does gravity work in a mysterious ways?

Why can't gravity put the same plane in orbit rather than falling to the ground?

As I said, the person falling in a falling plane's chamber is falling with the plane according to gravity from the reference plane of an observer outside the plane, but from the reference frame of the plane, the person is stationary (or floating )



You legs leave the ground the moment you jump of a cliff and free fall to the earth.

Why was moon free fall has to be in orbit and my own free fall has to land me on the ground?

Immediately I jumped off the cliff, why can't this mysterious gravity put me in orbit rather than pulling me to the ground?

And I asked a question which you stylishly boycotted the other time,

Why would gigantic gravity allow ordinary butterfly to fly when gravity is so strong at earth's surface and ordinary Car radiator fan will suck in any flies around it?

wirinet:
You are so ignorant and confused that I don't know where to start educating you. It's amazing that in this era of information age, some people choose to remain ignorant.

You're just describing yourself here....

Gravity is a force that manifest in acceleration, which means per second increase in velocity. The earth pulls all objects to it with an acceleration of 9.81 per second. It means you speed will increase by 9.81m per second, every second. Now, when you are standing on the ground, you stand still because the ground exerts an equal and opposite force.

Look @underlined to see how you failed to reason with my post, yet ranting for nothing.

If gravity pulls everything to earth's surface and because I'm standing on the ground, the ground is exerting equal force, what of an airplane that lost the engine power in midair?

Why must the plane fall to the ground?

Isn't this plane supposed to be floating as a result of weightlessness due to the same gravity?

In space there is no ground to exert an equal and opposite force so you fall perpetually (free fall).

The fall was it not floating around the earth like moon does or falling to earth surface? Which one....

Study this video, maybe you will begin to have an idea of what gravity is, instead of talking jibberish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_Ox_dH0M8

Someone is floating around in a chamber, isn't gravity supposed to pull her to earth's surface?

The moment I jump off a cliff, were my legs on ground? Yet gravity pulled me to earth's surface.

wickedtuna:
is it gravity or because anything denser than air falls to the ground.

Answer me first

Perfectbeing:
We can argue with everything except the truth. The truth always have a way of proving itself. I can come on board and argue against gravity and probably even win a debate in my argument. I can bring all the logic and reason to prove the non-existence of gravity. But when I jump off a cliff, it is then the truth will prove itself on whether gravity do exist or not..

To you in a lay man's view, what is gravity?

No-one says Jumping off a cliff won't land you on earth's surface even badly....but the point is, is it gravity or something else?

wirinet:
Please explain how one can circumnavigate a flat surface. When you circumnavigate to go in a straight line until you arrive at your point of departure.

Yet you're asking to grab elementary physics or geography book....

Why can't you do your research about it?

Is that so? I asked is this CGI conspiracy being perpetuated by all governments on earth, all universities and all scientists?

Google is your friend bro....
Yet you said earlier that you don't know that people still believe in flat earth in this 21st century, whereas, a 21st century pikin still believes all the images he has seen are real image SMH

Besides, you did not answer the question on how you can watch a live program from 6,000 miles away.

You didn't ask me any question...

What are you yapping about? What do you mean by without GRAVITY? Are you now saying your flat earth hypothesis operates without gravity?

Gravity is a scam.....

Had it been you use your common sense you would have known that.

Who told you no gravity in space? Space itself is the creator of gravity. Gravity permeates space and time.

Did you aware that no gravity in space has later been change to Microgravity?

Another aspect is, they say "the farther you are from earth the less gravitational force you experience"....which means earth gravity is very strong close to surface, yet the same weak or absolute zero gravity holds the MOON in earth orbit. How can you reconcile that

If gravity is so strong to hold everything on earth surface, why would ordinary butterfly be able to to fly in the presence of gravity when ordinary Car radiator fan will suck in any flies around it?

Please grab an elementary physic or even geography text book, so you can understand some basic terms.

The same elementary books you're brainwashed with.

Weightlessness simply means you cannot feel your weight. You become weightless if you fall down from a plane or even a lift. A better term is free fall.

At what point you won't feel your weight?

Isn't gravity occurred all over the earth even extended to moon?

Why should I jump up and fall on ground or an airplane at some attitude loosing engine power will straightly fall to the ground, yet all of a sudden, I won't feel my weight at a certain point? Is gravity works in mysterious ways

wirinet:
Flat earth in the 21st century? After Megallan had circumnavigated the earth more than 500 years ago,

Circumnavigation can also be achieved on a flat earth model.

satellites are beaming radio signals from the other side of the globe allowing you see pictures in real time, and millions of pictures of earth from probes sent from earth.

This is a pure lie....

No single ORIGINAL image of earth from space by any satellite....any image you see in this 21st century is still CGI, then ask yourself why?

I still can't believe any one that has gotten past primary school still believes the earth is flat.

The reason you still believe in spherical earth is because you refuse to apply common sense.

The greatest support idea for spherical earth is GRAVITY because they know that without GRAVITY the whole idea of spherical earth will shatter.

Now, why do they still talk about NO GRAVITY IN SPACE when the same Earth gravity HOLDS the moon in its orbit and the same sun Gravity passes across earth to hold other planets in their orbits?

Should there have been anything like WEIGHTLESSNESS at all, if gravity cut across the solar system

budaatum:
I don't be liking this "we" as theres no "we" in it. Some are trapped on a spinning ball, some on a flat earth and some in a triangle, perhaps, and some are not trapped at all.

There's all sorts here on NL, you'll find.

People like me our own earth is Like amoeba. It can be a ball today, sphere in the next minute, egg tomorrow, the one that shocked me most is that star fish shape

sunnychibs:
So,i recently gained admission to study engineering,chemical engineering precisely.



So my question goes those who studied engineering and those still studying,

Do you have any regrets studying engineering?

Even if I get to Heaven I'll still be an Engineer....

Maximus69:
I think Seun (as an atheist) missed the road in quoting Jesus' word for the OP who wants people to JOIN HER IN PRAYER AGAINST some people!

I'm sure he wanted to quote Luke 6:27-31

27-37 would've been perfect

Seun:
It goes against Matthew’s Jesus’ teaching on prayer. Instead of praying in private he is spamming his prayer on a public forum. However, it doesn’t matter because other Bible verses that contradict the one above can be used to justify this thread. My bad.

You against Jesus Christ and His word is obvious but using that to address what doesn't relate is out of it.

The OP says people should join him in prayer NOT PEOPLE SHOULD COME TOGETHER ON NAIRALAND to pray

Haba don't let your hatred beclouded your reasoning faculty Oga Seun

Seun:
Matthew 6:5-6

The Op says you should join her....
Now how does this relate to the OP?

See the way you're talking about these scholars as if you regard them or their work when you're only using them as bare face to defend your lies.

Janosky:
Do you, BlueAgent understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars who rejected your claim of Psalms 45:6?

Hypocrite JWs!
So you belief there are actually RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS...

1. So why did you take the unscholarlly NWT over the RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS?

2. Who among the translator of NWT is more understanding in Greek or Hebrew more than these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS?

3. What is the position of these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS on verse like John 1:1, Colossians 1:15-18, Colossians 2:9 Rev 3:14 e.t.c

These Trinity believers they proved that linguistically and with strong biblical Evidences (1 Chro29:23. 28:5. Luke 1:31-33. Rev3:21. Psalms 93:2) "Thy throne is God's throne" or "God is your throne " is the AUTHENTIC rendition.

If you take them to be right here, why did you reject their other works of the scriptureHypocrite...

That's why I do say JWs are very hypocritical in nature...

@2)
BlueAgent,what do Trinitarian Bible scholars stand to gain by their rejection of "Thy throne O God" & ACCEPTANCE of "Thy throne is God's throne" or "God is your throne " ?

What do you Janosky stand to gain by accepting only this from these Trinitarians yet rejected other numerous works of the scripture from these same RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS

if not because you choose to accept whatever favour you from them and discard what doesn't favour just as you and your evil organisation do to the scripture.

Hypocrite JWs

That's how your evil organisation was busy using Scholar Metzger as a cover up not until he came out to shut them down and even have to write about errors in your demonic NWT.

Only a demonic person will ask this "Do you, BlueAgent understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars"

When he himself follows and put his entire salvation in the hands of men (GB) who couldn't match these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS in Greek or Hebrew....

Let's turn the question around:
Do you, Janosky or anyone among the GB understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars?

Foxman19:
This law can't stand at all.

It doesn't matter whether the law stand, sleep or sit.

What matters is that the law should take its course.

Uka15:
Didn't the bible say faith without work is dead?

The point is:
Are you saved by work or by Faith alone?

This shows you didn't understand the OP

Yahman1:
You are more foolish than a Fool for u to believe the Earth is flat in 2019, Even a Fool wouldn't be this Foolish

Why is there darkness around the supposed captured pictures?

Isn't earth's shadow created darkness?

Why are most images captured always show dark background?

These are the questions a rational mind will ask.

ikorodureporta:
I'm asking y'all.. do you think Kanye West is truly born again??

lalasticlala

Are we God to have known if he truly born again?

By his fruits time shall reveal but right now we join heaven to rejoice about the lost soul found.

If you're not rejoicing with the heavenly hosts well you can join Satan who lost the soul

Edybleketara:
so asking logical questions leads one unto atheism? this explains why atheists are known to be intelligent peeps.

And who decides this

Litigant:
hi everyone. I just got this text message. I don't know if its real or I should ignore it
ITM Nigeria Ltd invites
you for a job interview for a Bank in Abuja.
Date: Thursday 24th October 2019
Time: 12:00pm
Venue: No 47 Kumasi crescent, by dominos, Wuse 2.
Note: Come along with 3 copies of your CV, please dress corporate.

You didn't tell us whether you applied for such vacancy or not.

Anyways, Kumasi crescent in wuse 2 is an open place....I'll advice you go but study the building very well before you enter.

Good luck

2metrelaurie:
Do you know how gravity works?

Newton's law of universal gravitation states that every particle attracts every other particle in the universe with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers.

Communication Satlites and the ISS in earths Orbit should give u a clue

Eclipses , sun , Moon , sun rise sun set should give u a clue about earths shape

Look at the @underlined and if it's true then tell me how will sun's gravity that holds the biggest planet Jupiter in our solar system the fifth in number and also far away from the sun than earth will still allow small earth's gravity to control the moon and even the said earth.

Did the sun gravity pass across the moon and earth to hold Jupiter in it's orbit or not

Horlufemi:
I've studied both flat Earth model doesn't explain anything and it contradicts real life

Flat earth model to me still holds much than spherical earth when compared both analysis.

In fact, one thing that made me root for flat earth model is GRAVITY. I disagree totally with gravitational pull of the spherical earth.

Take for instance, the sun's gravity is so hug that it holds the biggest planet (Jupiter) and fifth in position in our solar system in place yet this same gravity can allow Earth weak gravity to hold moon in its own orbit.

TruthinAction:
It's imperative for us to give an explanation of why the earth that is modeled to be spherical looks flat. This has led to a new concept that the earth cannot be spherical and this new concept rather proposes a flat earth surface.

The earth has an estimated radius of 6371km. From calculation, to have a drop or depression of 1foot from an original position moving in any direction, you have a move a distance of at least 2km. So within a distance of 100th, the perpendicular depression you will experience is about half an inch. So, you feel a flat earth surface within a short distance. So, those who disprove the spherical earth model should rethink.

The moon is spherical, the sun is spherical. Other planets are spherical. Why do they think the earth will be different?

Well if I should choose btw a flat earth model and a spherical model, I'll go with flat earth. Though I don't subscribe to any.

blueAgent:
You are confused .

Jesus is God and a deity by the virtue of been born by God.

So if He is God and a deity.... Isn't He supposed to be worshipped and reverenced and do you worship and reverence Him?

If you do, does that not make you a polytheist?

JMAN05:
The word that you see as "all things" is panta. The word doesn't always refer to literal all things. "Other" is often used to show that all other things is meant sometimes. In this case, rightly so.

The verse explains itself in col 1:15. He is the "first-born" of all creation. In another scripture, he is called the only begotten son. Does the word "son" and "begotten" not connote creation?

2. Another gives us a hint. Heb 1:2

2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

Who is that he that made the world's thru Christ? Who appointed the supposed almighty heir of all things?

Liar, so you haven't changed all this while....

John 1:3 put an end to all your lies....

[b]Christian Standard Bible
All things were created through him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

Contemporary English Version
And with this Word, God created all things. Nothing was made without the Word. Everything that was created

Good News Translation
Through him God made all things; not one thing in all creation was made without him.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
All things were created through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was created that has been created.

International Standard Version
Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made.

NET Bible
All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

New Heart English Bible
All things were made through him, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Everything was in his hand, and without him not even one thing existed of the things that existed.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Everything came into existence through him. Not one thing that exists was made without him.

New American Standard 1977
All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Jubilee Bible 2000
All things were made by him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.[/b]

Tell us the translation you didn't understand there.
If NOTHING came into existence without the Word, then it means the Word Created Himself.

Imagine, the word "Panta" doesn't always mean LITERAL ALL THINGS but you have to take the word FIRSTBORN as first CREATED....

Besides, can you provide any notable scholar who supported your position on "Panta"?

malvisguy212:
God bless you for sharing. God is Good.

Amen!

May God continue to be praised

Maximus69:
Peter who made several mistakes in the past was the chief spokesman of the Christian faith, Paul who had persecuted the Christians in the past was their chief Missionary. But the group was making progress as members are known to be preaching and teaching zealously and making peace loving disciples in every land.

So do not allow the mistakes of Jehovah's Witnesses organization in the past blur your spiritual vision NOT to see the accomplishments of God's people today! Matthew 5:14-16, John 13:34-35, 17:20-23

Point of a descendant of Satan....

Can you list the past mistakes both Apostles Peter and Paul made AFTER they started their ministries?

I guess you're talking about their mistakes before their ministries began.....

How can you compare that with JWs that claimed from beginning that they're the very mouthpiece of God?

We've presented countless facts to you here, I could even remember where you're putting the blame of one of their failed prophecies on the RELIGIOUS PEOPLE (as usual because I can't see you making a post without blaming RELIGIOUS PEOPLE) that they're the one who misunderstood JWs whereas the said GB blamed their members.

Anyways, only God Himself can deliver you from your delusions.

blueAgent:
Where in my article or thread did I say Jesus is not a deity?

Look at the attached pix below and tell us, the type of deity Jesus is.

Is it like the polytheistic as "a god or goddess" (Which make you a polytheist) OR like a monotheist "the Supreme, the Creator e.t.c?

Then you'll see the reason why your own organization trying to change their view about Trinity as you said.

donstan18:
Is dreaming a spiritual event we should be worried about or a natural occurrance we should overlook?


Mynd44 Lalasticlala OAM4J

Let me share this my true story with you then you can conclude for yourself.

During my service in cross-river state, on that faithful day, I had a dream. Behold in reality, it was Saturday/Sunday but in the dream it was Friday/Saturday.

So in my dream, I saw two villages fighting and everywhere was rowdy and killings everywhere. I saw Corpers running for their lives but to my greatest surprises, I heard the villagers making a vow that they'll ensure nothing will happen to any corps members in their village.

While still in the dream, I woke and I narrated everything to my colleagues and we were all afraid, I then round it up that "if this dream is true, let our pastor confirmed it on Sunday"

After this, I woke up to life behold it was around 4-5am on Sunday morning.

I called of one of my colleagues and I told her, she was frightened too....

To cut the long story short, we headed for service, on getting to church, we had normal service and everything went well and we share the grace...

But something so amazing happened shortly, what was that?

I just heard pastor telling everybody to come back that nobody should go, people who are already outside or even on their way came back and the pastor began to say....

"Please something escapes my mind which we need to pray seriously about, I had a dream tonight three times, the dream first came, I pray and slept and the same dream came again second time, same thing also happens the third time."

He said "please we need to pray for a fight that will happen between two villages to the extent that people will die and especially our corps members"

My brother I was dumbfounded, honestly I couldn't pray much as the whole thing was just ringing through my mind....i was like God you're soo marvelous.

Lo and behold, it's not up to two weeks, when a fight broke out between two villages in the border of Ebonyi state and Cross-river though not our own village but it's not that far from ours.

If you listen to news towards ending of 2012, you we hear about it, many people were killed but no single corps member was affected and the corps members shared their testimonies how the villagers helped them to escape and NYSC had to redeployed all the corps members from that village. In fact, one of the Corper stays with us for almost a month before she could get another PPA.

blueAgent:
And in Colossians 2:9 the Greek word
translated Godhead is “theotēs” (G2320)
and means deity as in the state of being
God.
Colossians 2:9 KJV “For in him dwelleth
all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
So the word Godhead speaks of the
“Divine nature” of the Father which has
been given to the Son and hence is in
the Son as we find in Colossians 2:9
above. Thus Jesus being the firstborn
over all creation ( Colossians 1:15 ), and
being brought forth from the Father, He
has the same “Divine nature” as His
Father.
Colossians 1:19 KJV “For it pleased the
Father that in him should all fulness
dwell; ”

You're the one who created this thread to proof Trinity isn't Biblical yet see your position above.

So you can later agree that Jesus is a deity....

Just waooooooo

You people are now against one another, very funny.

GREATESTPIANIST:
Of course, structural analysis is very key......

Do you know how to perform structural analysis and design?

PureFace1:
The collapse in Lagos is not as frequent as Anambra though


At least three news of collapse in Anambra before Lagos collapse

Why are you people always turn major issues to tribal?

This supposed to be a thread where young engineers showcase their structural knowledge by analysing the possible causes of the collapse in other to sell their careers.

I just weak for you guys....