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LordReed:
I use the word metaphorically. It does not indicate there is a goal, only that there are many interconnected parts. So no I do not agree that the universe is coordinated, arranged and managed to achieve a specific GOAL.

After you have been caught

ChatGPT
A metaphor is a figure of speech in which one thing is compared to another without using "like" or "as." It suggests that one thing is another to imply a resemblance or shared qualities.

For example:
"Time is a thief." → This suggests that time takes away moments from our lives, just like a thief would steal valuables.
"She has a heart of stone." → This implies that she is emotionally cold or unfeeling.

Your metaphor still shows that there's coordination, arrangement and management of the universe

The functioning of the universe shows no intelligent being behind it and doesn't even require one.

It does!

If not provide your evidence!

achorladey:
Only in your lying and manipulated brains that exist. Military intelligence you no longer live in the southwest

He pretended as if he didn't see my post.

achorladey:
Since na your brains brought him to platform

You can see that he doesn't even have mind to write it in full.

They don't know what I'm actually planning for them.

gohf:
So what is the very nature that makes God to be God?

Let me turn this around.

What is the NATURE of man that makes man to be man?

Luke.1.32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,...

And your point is....?

Only when they are outside they use to display that their fake angelic attitude and love

gohf:
So what is the very nature that makes God to be God?

See question!

That is the very NATURE of God reason why Angels, humans, stone, animals aren't God because all exists in their own NATURE.

Luke.1.32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,...

What is your point here?

MaxInDHouse:
Peter made it clear in that same scripture churchgoers often quote:


But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. ‭2 Peter 3:5-7 NIV‬



What happened back then is to repeat itself and it's going to be judgment and destruction of the UNGODLY.

No! Not just the ungodly.

Reason why you couldn't read that 2 Peter 3 downward.

God made it clear through Peter that the Earth is going.

Pay attention to the 2 Peter 3 you cherry pick below.

[b]"And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed...9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment. Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live, 12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames. 13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness." 2 Peter 3:7-13[/b]

As you can see, the scripture talks about the VERY ELEMENTS of Earth and Heavens as they are already STORE FOR FIRE.

In fact, according to that chapter, Earth itself will receive judgement.

Reason why God made it clear in verse 13 that there will be a NEW HEAVENS and NEW Earth.

LordReed:
You're beginning to reason properly. Slowly you'll realise the orchestration of this universe has no divine origin.

You want to be clever by half.

Orchestration refers to the automated coordination, management, and arrangement of multiple tasks, services, or processes to achieve a specific goal efficiently.

This is you agreeing that the universe is coordinated, arranged and managed to achieve a specific GOAL.

So, how can that be possible without intelligent being behind it?

delkuf:
I am a human being because I was giving birth by a human being. So the Lord Jesus Christ as the the son of God makes him God also. Every trait in God is in the Jesus also. The Lord Jesus Christ said I am the father are one. You can't be son of God and not be like God. Jesus is God

Jesus isn't God because He was the Son of God, He is God because He exists in the very NATURE that makes God to be God.

In fact, Jesus being Son of God was about His earthly mission...

This is very clear from the message of Gabriel to Mary. "He will be very great and will be CALLED the Son of the Most High" Luke 1:32

cornelboy:
You not serious

You have from now till 25th of March!

johnw47:
emusan, don't bother about those satan's disciples, they can never stop lying just like the devil cannot,
Jesus Himself said liars are off the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I understand you but when a liar keep repeating him/herself it may be assumed to be true.

Remember they have been on this for more than THREE YEARS NOW which means it's not a joke to them but what they want to be BECOME TRUE and those posts are on Internet which never forgets.

So, it's better to clarify it and expose the liar here, either me behind all these monikers or they lie against God's Holy Spirit and their instinct is wrong.

gohf:
Another view suggested to prove that Jesus is God, is because Jesus is our eternal life therefore being eternal means he is self existent.

"What makes God to be God is His nature which means for a being to be called God, it means self existence (ETERNAL), all knowing, all powerful e.t.c.

That 1 john clearly shows that Jesus is the VERY ETERNAL LIFE.

it means Jesus has no beginning and end."


Now how can Jesus have no beginning and no end, when his Father God Almighty is the beginning and the end, the all sufficient one. I understand eternity meaning forever and having no end, but Jesus has a beginning which is from God.

We need to ask does having eternal life make one God Almighty?

so their point is " for a being to be called God, it means self existence" that's understandable seeing as there's only one self existing being who created all things, God, but he phrases it like a title given to those who are eternal. He doesn't see the problem in this lie, that the children of God who have also received eternal life are eternal, so are they God or Gods?! We are not, we are children of God.

Now one of them has recently said to me


Now they may resort to saying
"Jesus is the VERY ETERNAL LIFE, which means wasn't created nor having ending.

Spot the difference.

To be ETERNAL MEANS no beginning nor ending, not created which is the reason you agree that a being is called GOD.

because HE HAS NO BEGINNING OR END OF LIFE."

Here is denies what John wrote that God clearly granted Jesus eternal life and the authority to give eternal life and make us children of God.

Now to question, we who have received eternal life who have eternal life have now become God Almighty, we have no beginning and no ending right?" Emusan didn't answer but like you saw above with Padi some believe they are.

And no where in Revelation does Jesus say he is the beginning and the end the Lord God Almighty so this belief isn't from Jesus then ask yourself what is not from the light isn't it from darkness from the serpent who said, and you will be wise like God, I will ascend and be like God.

Jesus calls them the synagogue of Satan, the church of the devil who claim they are God's people but will be shown to be liars.

And at the ending of that closed thread where instead of proofing my defense was a lie instead of stealing calling others mad liars of which the last post by Jesusjnr wrote and I quote:
"Those who are the really mad usually think it's those who are sane that are really mad.

Those who are ignorant but ignorant of their own ignorance usually think it's those who have knowledge that are ignorant.

So makes so much sense."


Someone who didn't repent at first, even till the end will continue been who they are, who is he, well by his words and fruit you will recognize him 😊


But the most important person to recognize and know is Jesus Christ the son of the living God.
🙏

After you were caught in the web of your own lie.

Jesus is the Beginning and the Ending.

Jesus is God Almighty!

I've provided scriptures in support of these.

MaxInDHouse:
Your repetition of hurtful words won't do anything so calmly address the issue!

Hypocrite!

Now you realize he is using hurtful words but when your deluded brother do it, it won't bother you and you will even endorse their hurtful words.

cornelboy:
He didn't
I figured

I like this.

So come and proof it how you figure it out.

At least you shouldn't be afraid of your instinct

Well, I know you believed your deluded brother because he even added HOLY SPIRIT to his own.

cornelboy:
Where is Emusan
You don tire to run both monikers at the same time

Just like your deluded brother noticed, I haven't been online since late last year.

I'm even happy as he noticed that.

Now, that you're still believing the lie you were told from your deluded brother who claimed Holy Spirit to him that Emusan being the same person as @olaadegbu, @achorladey & @johnw47 I have good news for you.

I've challenged all of you before about proving this your self delusional lie even when I was in Abuja.

Now, I'm currently in Lagos State, and I'm putting it to you again another challenge (ALL JWS who also believe the same I assume you people are in South West).

If any of you refuse to take this challenge up this time, then it means you people agreed that you're FALSELY ACCUSING ME and I'll take it personal this time and make sure I get the location of just one of you to teach a lesson by taking a legal action against such person.

If any of you like, try to start deleting your post on this false accusations, I'm glad to tell you I've already taken my time to screenshot & screen recording them all.

The challenge is:
The person should choose any convenient place either in this same Lagos State (in case the person reside in Lagos) and for those outside Lagos, choose any convenient place even in the state you reside.

I'll spend my money and resources on this course. As long as to clear this false accusation.

Note: I'm giving you people just one month, which means from now till 25th of March. Failure on this means I'll start my own action.

Don't think you're anonymous on Internet.

Aemmyjah:
😂
Emusan is still at the gate of 2024
He's waiting to come and shock everyone 😂

What do you mean?

Janosky:
Emusan Dunce who can't afford to understand why him Trinitarian godfathers placed "like" @ Exodus 7:1.

Painment killer syrup is available!



The 'LIKE' IS TO PROOF THAT MOSES WAS NOT GOD.

Do you understand why NWT ALSO ADDED 'LIKE' in the same verse?

I've asked you question on that address it.

Janosky:
Yet, Emusan opened more than 10 threads WAILING upandan for JW's matter.

How many thread did Emusan open to talking about the pastorpreneurs business franchise he visits every Sundays to pay membership fees?

I open those threads to exposed Watchtower lies and deceits.

Remember how many ARTICLES Watchtower has made about True Christians.

And also how many POST you have posted about other True Christians

So, you don't point here and it's evident every of my post hit the right point on Jws.

Janosky:
Are you the first person to leave JW's or your former religion?

Come and continue WAILING and para on this forum.
The floor is open to you, your sifia pains are endless and incurable.
Awon WEREY para mode.

If people are leaving your lie lie organization is that not evidence that watchtower isn't different from other Christians they were trying to condemn?

So all your lies of we are the ONLY ONE WHO HOLD THE TRUTH fall flat yakata

Janosky:
Emusan,What a dunce you are !!
Very low IQ WAILING WAILER seeking attention.


Your Trinitarian New English Translation Bible explained that "Like" was put there @ Exodus 7:1 "for clarity" (screenshot evidence).
Yet you are exposing your IBERIBEISM.
Oga,carry your IBERIBEISM komot from this forum

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WHICH supported my point that your NWT added what is not in the original Hebrew into the word of God.

So, was MOSES GOD or WAS MADE TO BE LIKE GOD?

Your empty skull never addressed my point but keep dancing around like headless chicken.

Janosky:
John 3:16 , Jesus ONLY Begotten "
Hebrew 11:17-19 , Isaac ONLY Begotten.

Emusan very low IQ dunce

So begotten doesn't have MEANING again.



You must produce the meaning of BEGOTTEN here!

Janosky:
Dummy post of a deluded dunce lacking comprehension skills.
What a deluded brain promoting violence!

Tueh!!

The thing really pained this JaNosense

Truth is bitter, close your eyes and swallow it!

MaxInDHouse:
Here is the title of this thread:

"Is RAPTURE real?"

Ọmọ the first thing a true Christian should do is quote where it's found written in the scriptures not perambulating trying to wrap it up with God's word.

let's apply the same logic here.

Watchtower has published many articles about THEOCRACY, did you ever FIRST ASKED where it was WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE?

So i put it to you that you're just seeking my attention and you can't have it

Leave story and answer the simple question.

If you don't know where the word RAPTURE is written in God's word then it's not real.

Simple as ABC!

So, THEOCRACY is not REAL!

DO YOU AGREE?

MaxInDHouse:
Emusan, most times you try to engage me in arguments you often prove to be childish.

Thank you, but you should address the childish question and stop derailing.

Here are threads about RAPTURE on this forum:

https://www.nairaland.com/6257081/rapture-real-falacy
https://www.nairaland.com/4211840/difference-rapture-second-coming
https://www.nairaland.com/4140759/aftermath-rapture
https://www.nairaland.com/8250392/rapture-real#132601169
https://www.nairaland.com/5142230/rapture-blessed-hope-bible-joseph
https://www.nairaland.com/6881739/50-comprehensive-signs-rapture-end-times
https://www.nairaland.com/4613520/biblically-estimated-time-rapture-mid

Just quote one having THEOCRACY as title and we can continue the discussion but if not then there's nothing to argue about!

Whether thousands of threads opened about RAPTURE it's not an issue here.

Watchtower Bible Tracks and Society you belong to teaches THEOCRACY.

The simple question is, does the word THEOCRACY written in the scripture.

Your diversion tactics won't work

MaxInDHouse:
You see what i mean?
Just mention a single thread on this forum that the word THEOCRACY was discussed and let's hear from Nairalanders what they have to say about it but if not then it's not important since nobody brought it here like this "RAPTURE" that was never mentioned in the Bible yet different religions are talking about it as if it's written somewhere in God's word!

It doesn't matter.

Stop derailing.

Watchtower teaches THEOCRACY.

Does that word written in the scripture or not?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is preaching THEOCRACY?

Watchtowers Organization which you belong to.

Now answer my question, does the word THEOCRACY written in the scripture?

MaxInDHouse:
Is the word "RAPTURE" written in the scriptures?

Does the word THEOCRACY written in the scripture

Janosky:
Emusan Illiterate dunce miscreant.

Going by your MUMU, all your Trinitarian Bibles at Exodus 7:1 are inaccurate as well.

Your low IQ won't comprehend that God calls His sons (plural) gods in your own Bible, Psalms 82:1,6.
"Like God" meaning godlike or a god .

Dummy please Continue WAILING and proving your IBERIBEISM.

So, what is your point?

If not because your brain is paining you.

I said Moses was MADE LIKE GOD not that Moses was GOD!

You jumped into my mention by started saying rubbish as if I'm wrong.

Even your deluded fellow has realized his folly by keeping shut because scripture did not say MOSES WAS GOD as he early lied.

JaNosense I asked again what exactly did you want to prove by quoting me in the first place?

Janosky:
Birds of a feather flock together - your IQ too low to comprehend facts, especially from your own Bible.

Irrelevant nonsense.

The word honor has the same meaning in all verses of the scriptures.

So, you agree that the way you honor Jehovah is the same way you honor your mother and father, since the word HONOR has the same meaning in all verses of the scripture.

In addition,
Oga use Biblehub study every translation of
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13 until that scripture sinks into your skull.


Oga, go & emancipate yourself.

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The point this delude JaNosense didn't understand yet is that Jesus OPENLY SAID you should HONOR Him JUST AS you honor the Father.

How do you honor the Father?

Even your perverted translation put it this way

"so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father..."

Janosky:
Emusan dunce for life

Very low IQ guy forming woke.

Go and find out the root meaning of Greek 'mono' & Greek 'genes'.


Or
Upgrade your dunce level

He couldn't answer my simple question because he knows his pot of lies will be opened.

What is the meaning of BEGOTTEN?

Let's see if all Abraham children are not BEGOTTEN and ALL ANGELS ARE NOT BEGOTTEN according to your definition of BEGOTTEN

Janosky:
Low IQ dunce forming woke.
Every first BORN in your Bible was created prior to their PREEMINENCE.

Now, the evidence is cleared.

Paul was actually talking about PREEMINENCE and not FIRST CREATED.

It's lie lie people LIKE YOU who changed it to FIRST CREATED.

Study Genesis 49:3 & stop your IBERIBEISM
First born in that verse is distinct from PREEMINENCE.

This Gen 49:3 “Reuben, you are my firstborn, my strength, the child of my vigorous youth. You are first in rank and first in power."

How did it different Mr deceiving yourself?

Study 1 Corinthians 11:3,11-12 until you comprehend.


1 Timothy 6:13, 1 Corinthians 11:11-12. Hebrew 1:2.
1 Corinthians 8:6. Isaiah 44:24
Yahweh the God (ho Theos @ John 1:1) created ALL THINGS".

Not your 3 deities invented at Nicene

Exactly my point.

So Yahweh CREATED ALL THINGS ALL BY HIMSELF.

So, where did your lesser god joined the GREAT YAHWEH at creation?

You just confirmed my point that no god assisted the Great Yahweh during creation.

Did you see your 2nd person and 3rd person deities at Isaiah 44:24?
Yahweh Hmself does not recognize your 3 deities invented by men at Nicene 381 AD.
Pls remain stuck in your delusion invented at Nicene.

Bcod the THREE ARE ONE!

SO, WHERE DID YOU SEE A LESSER GOD assisting The Great Yahweh?

Oga, you can continue WAILING all your life.
You see that Hebrew text of Micah 5:2, it has existed before your delusion invented at Nicene.
"His (Jesus) ORIGIN is from of old, the days of yore"

The DAYS OF YORE means ETERNITY

Can something with ORIGIN exist in ETERNITY?

JaNosense?

Janosky:
"His ORIGIN is from the days of yore" Hebrew text of Micah 5:2.

Trinitarian FORGERY: "Existing from eternity"
Oga continue deceiving yourself.

Mr continue to deceive yourself.

You haven't answered my question.

Can something with ORIGIN exist in ETERNITY?