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Michael547:
Jesus is ruling in heaven now.

OVER WHO?

So your God given wisdom was even to vote Peter Obi who would eventually lose the election.

It doesn't matter, since the majority carried the votes.

Is that really a God given wisdom?😁😁😁

Yes! Just as your own is to still be under the control of those who does nothing different from the same politicians.

And you even failed to carry out Your God given wisdom by not Voting?😁😁

because it's a free world.

Just as you're not compel to vote yet enjoy Government policy.

Are you serious at all with this God given wisdom?😁😁

Over serious

Hope you are happy with this Government that God gave wisdom to other people to vote for?

The scriptures says "When the righteous rules the people rejoice but when the wicked rules people groaned"

Michael547:
He is not ruling over the earth now.

And yet HE STARTED RULING SINCE 1914 which is over 100years ago.

So, what is Jesus ruling OVER NOW?

He would do so when his kingdom comes to the earth.

So what is He ruling on now?

Who you vote for for the last election?

I didn't vote but if I wanted to vote I'd have voted for Peter Obi mind you I'm a Yoruba man.

So that we go know whether you use your God given wisdom vote for who God ordain to be president.

Again, how did you come up with the phrase "who God ordained to be president?"

Do you think God ordained people to be President?

Aemmyjah:
Your usual tactic when effort has failed
When he's seen he landed himself at a tight corner, he'll say u refused to answer his question...
He won't even mention or make reference to the question

He's simply begging to let him run away

If not because you're so dull, how can you QUOTE A POST without addressing the point on the post you quoted and you turn around to ask me to make reference to the post?

What is the essence of quoting a post when you won't address the point the poster laid down?

Michael547:
Oga I don answer your question.
GB no talk say dem dey rule for earth through Jesus.

Who you vote for for the last election?

You haven't!

Michael547:
Where did the GB say that they are the ones ruling over JWs on earth?

They said Jesus Christ started RULING in 1914 and HAS CHOSEN THEM.

in case, you disagree!

Then answer my questions

If Jesus has started RULING since 1914 He is RULING over the WORLD NOW OR NOT?

Michael547:
So God does not actually tell anyone who to vote for?
So any politician I vote for can actually be the result of God given wisdom.
Ok who did you vote for in the Last election?

This is the last time I will say this, don't leave my question unanswered and then turn around to ask your own question.

So do the needful first!

MaxInDHouse:
So is there WISDOM in voting for a human like you to rule over you? Psalms 146:3

But your GB are human and are ruling over you.

Well, the lie you will tell now is that, they are under Jesus RULING which still boils down to why are they not achieving what the POLITICIANS can't achieve?

This shows that you don't understand the content of that Psalm 146:3

MaxInDHouse:
Now who is prideful?

That should be you.

I just showed you from the scriptures that you're wrong saying God gives everyone wisdom!

Well, who should I blame for your inability to know to comprehend simple sentence?

Michael547:
If you claim that we have agreed, why are you taking me Back again.

Then as educated person, you should know when a question mark is used.

I used "RIGHT?" which means I want you to affirm my point.

You are a very dubious man.

Waooooo for you to know this it means the discussion is taking turn.

Shebi you Said that God gives everyone wisdom on who to vote for?

I said "USED YOUR GOD'S GIVEN WISDOM."

You see where simple lack of comprehension landed you.

So God gives people wisdom to vote for a particular politician and later claims he did not ordain the politician?

No! God gives human wisdom to do many things not just to vote.

Mr Emusan you are making sense.
Clap for yourself

Clap for your lack of comprehension.

MaxInDHouse:
Humans are intelligent creatures but WISDOM only belongs to the true worshipers of God!

No one can be wise if he is not a disciple of the wise counselor {Isaiah 9:6} sent to teach us how to become wise!

Out of POV

Next!

MaxInDHouse:
He always rush into any thread that has to do with Jehovah's Witnesses only to join the critics but now that his cohorts aren't here his folly becomes obvious!

Funny liar!

You think I need someone to praise me and started filling like a child given biscuits before I make my point on Nairaland?

I've been on this thread taking three of you that shows I'm capable even if you add all your hall join.

Michael547:
The guy is confused.
He said God gave wisdom for people to vote all politicians in the last election even though not all were ordained by God.
Is that not funny😁😁

Another evidence that you people are terrible liar.

I said YOU SHOULD USE YOUR GOD'S GIVEN WISDOM.

Do GOD give EVERYONE BRAIN?

Does that mean EVERYTHING done by people with brain shows God ORDAINED IT?

So, how is that translates to ALL POLITICIANS ARE OR AREN'T ORDAINED by God simply because I told you to use your God's given wisdom?

It's evident you're the one puffing out those imagination from your brain.

Michael547:
I agree that the GBs are not ruling on earth through Jehovah and Jesus. They never claimed to be rulers on earth.

That's not answer to my question!

Yet you claimed we ALREADY AGREED.

Here is my question again:

Which means you agreed that Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit aren't RULING with the GB, is that right?

So are you telling me that God gives people wisdom to vote for a politician that he does not ordain?

So the wisdom God gave EVERYONE including Atheist means whatever they do with it means God ORDAINED it.

Who are these politician that God does not ordain?

The Governing Body of Jws! reasons why they couldn't achieve what WICKED politicians can't achieve also.

MaxInDHouse:
So we can say there's none of those soldiers fighting and killing one another both in Russia and Ukraine that belongs to this your BODY OF CHRIST shey?

Many soldiers are part of the Body of Christ.

The point is, war isn't about THE BODY OF CHRIST, it can be between villages, ethnic, region and countries.

Many COUNTRIES TODAY ARE NOT IN WAR WITH EACH OTHER.

Now my question, do the war between Russia and Ukraine affect the Jws in those two countries?

Michael547:
We've agreed GBs are like politicians na.

Which means you agreed that Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit aren't RULING with the GB, is that right?

So your answers are a reflection of the GBs too.

No! Until we establish that.

because you haven't come out boldly about why GB couldn't achieve what politicians can't achieve despite Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit RULING with them.

Teaching is different from RULING.

So is it not wrong for people to complain about a politician since all politicians are ordained by God?

I take the bold part as your statement, right?

People will always complaining and that's because human government can't fulfill all what people want.

Michael547:
Show me where I taught that the JWs are better than everyone.

And the lie continue.

Well if you don't, you can't feign ignorant that your fellow jws do on this forum.

In fact, a jws made the claims on the screenshots below

Do you agree with that or not?

Answer my questions!

Michael547:
So are you saying that God led people to vote for Obi and Atiku only for them to end up losing?
And are you saying that the three Politicians were all good and non of them were bad?
Does that not mean that all politicians are good and that there is nothing really like a bad politician?

You asked your question now and I answered, don't dare dodge my question when it's my turn.

MaxInDHouse:
Does this BODY OF CHRIST engage in wars so as to kill their fellow believers in other countries during wars?

Government of every countries are in charge of WAR, many countries today are not fighting ANY WAR in fact human war isn't rampage now compare to stone age.

So Body of Christ has never engaged in war.

One funny thing is, how you people will be dodging someone questions and you will be expecting your questions to be answered.

Michael547:
So are you saying that Tinubu is President today because his voters used their God given wisdom?

Yes!

I heard some pastors say that Peter Obi was anointed by God to be the president.
So does that mean that they were lying?

And you can't asked them, why asking me?

So do you see why we need to agree on the politician to vote for?

Millions agreed and voted Tinubu
Millions agreed and voted Obi
Millions agreed and voted Atiku

But in fairness of human they said MAJORITY carried the vote and after election you will hear election of is over NOW LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

TO YOU IS THIS METTHOD WRONG?

Meanwhile, your GB who you all agreed with STILL COULDN'T DO WHAT POLITICIANS THAT YOU NEED ALL IN AGREEMENT DO.

SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

Aemmyjah:
I don't quote scriptures?
U rarely do so
So rest?

So I do quote Scripture that's the point.

Michael547:
Please can I join you to worship this Sunday?
Where are we going to meet?

You're always welcome?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Based on which scripture
Have you not seen how Maxindhouse base his comments on the scriptures
Quoting several scriptures and putting meaning into it

Can't remember when last u did such

Using someone as reference and what happened to yourself?

O ma se ooo

Well, if you lie that you haven't seen my post with Biblical reference, can I blame you? Definitely No!

Michael547:
Humans must have leaders.

Good as you know.

But which one has God chosen for us to vote for so that we will all be in agreement for that politician to win?

Your GB were chosen by God, isn't it?

Why are they not doing what Politicians couldn't do?

In the last election, who was the one that God said you should vote for?

My post said use your "God given wisdom" or did I say God told me someone?

Well, the clear point here is that your GB who claimed to be RULING by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit can't achieve ALL WHAT YOU LISTED ABOVE.

Yet you want to put the blame on Politicians.

Aemmyjah:
U attend one that has a name
Yet, u can't mention

Many people here can easily identify us by our religion

You have joined Kobojunkie and Steep as members of the lost, unknown church with unknown worshippers all over the world yet una no de agree

Very funny of you people.

I know it's not about the church that people attend that is making you people to be asking always WHICH CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND?

But because you people just want to use that as a defensive attacked, that is, quickly Google what negative things people have said about such Church and quote it.

That is why someone like me will discuss with you based on the scriptures and not about where you worshipped.

MaxInDHouse:
Does this Billions includes Jehovah's Witnesses members?

You already said JWs aren't Christian.

So why the question?

If not what exactly makes over 47,000 different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines your church.

because it's not about DENOMINATION as seeing in the scripture but ABOUT THE TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST called His Body the Church.

Michael547:
Ok fine.
But where do you guys meet here in Nigeria where I live?

We are all around you.

You do hear our LOUD. SPEAKER.

Michael547:
Ok sorry sir.
Can you mention a good and wicked politician that you know today so that I can know the one to vote and also The one to avoid in the next election.

You access them with your God given wisdom.

After all, you will welcome any appointed person into the Governing Body of Watchtower who despite the ruling from Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit and not wicked but still couldn't achieved what (wicked) politicians can't achieve.

Human must be Governed UNTIL GOD'S KINGDOM COMES!

Now my question, since God's Kingdom has not comes, do you think human should not have leaders?

Michael547:
Ok...are there others that study the Bible with you and know the truth?
If yes, where do you guys normally meet? so that I can join you guys.

Billions all over the world.

MaxInDHouse:
You came to tell someone that his religion is false

Yes! because I'm using scripture to support my claim.

while he's still defending what he believes

Yet he lied.

Can you see why I said he lies?

now instead of you to present the better one you're asking him to prove that his own is wrong!

I didn't ask him.

HE LIED TO THE PUBLIC THAT HIS OWN IS WRONG while still DEFENDING IT.

What does that mean?

Ọmọ this people are really really funny!

Check who is funny.

Michael547:
😁😁😁Ahhhh.... Meaning that you sef has not found the true church.

As long as I found The Bible I know the Truth.

Cause how can you know the true church and not promote it?😁😁

because scripture never talked about the TRUE CHURCH as in NAME.

Aemmyjah:
What's ur point?

You quoted my post, so you didn't read it before quoting it

Michael547:
So can you mention a politician that is not wicked, so that I can vote for him in the next election.

To CLAIM ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED shows you don't know what you're saying and you're dishonest.