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Aemmyjah:
Have you studied this for yourself and discovered the earth to be a flat
Aerial photograph shows the earth and other planetary bodies with their natural satellites to be round or circular. How's earth different?

The aerial photography that shows the earth and other planetary bodies to be round or circular, are you the one who took it by yourself?

You people will start a discussion on a faulty premises.

Kobojunkie:
Defence? I am not here to lie against the person of Paul but to state the facts. I am only interested in the facts and the fact is many of his claims are contradictory. And Yes, the statement he made in 1 Timothy 2 contradicts Jesus Christ. So what is your point?

What of the statement in 1 Corin 14, does it contradict 1 Tim 2?

You elucidate more on the OP using1 Corin 14 to defend Paul or of what purpose is your post then if not for defence?

Kobojunkie:
The "church" described by Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 is instead a reference to a general gathering of Jewish people — both those who do not believe in Jesus Christ and maybe those who do. You would know this from the details contained in the statements made by Paul regarding the gatherings, particularly his many suggestions regarding prophets and prophecies.
So, if you closely examine what Paul said in the above passage, it becomes clear, that the church He mentioned in this case was not a gathering of believers or followers of Jesus Christ but rather a gathering that consisted of children of Isreal – sinners and non-sinners alike — to whom the Spirit of Prophesy promised by God to all the young men and women in the land at the time had descended upon - Joel 2 vs 28 - 31. In His Gospel, Jesus Christ made clear that He was the last prophet sent by God to the people of Israel. And it is important to note that unlike the God of Israel —YHWH —who declared in His Law that He would send prophets out among His people, Israel, in His Name, Jesus Christ never instituted an office of prophets in the Kingdom of God. This means that all the prophets — including the spirit of prophets proclaimed even in the book of Acts belonged not to the Kingdom of God but to the Old Law of Moses.

“After this, I will pour out my Spirit on all kinds of people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will have dreams,
and your young men will see visions. In those days I will pour out my Spirit even on servants, both men and women. - Joel 2 vs 28 - 29

The spirit of prophecy came upon all young men and women— including those who were already born-again at the time — in the land during the last days as prophesied by Joel and as such there were gatherings where people came together to exchange information on messages revealed to them. Paul stressed that all those in attendance of such meetings ought to honor the Law of Moses during those gatherings because they were concerned with issues of the Old traditions and not the New.

But you're also in support of the claim that Paul actually contradicted Jesus Christ in some of his teachings, so what is this defence for?

Daejumong:
Many Apostles in Nigeria in recent time have highlighted the need to be careful with the teachings of Paul and that there are some areas they feel he contradicted Jesus.

Let me only address this part.

Jesus who called Apostle Paul Himself didn't discover and correct all what Paul taught in contradiction to His own teachings but left it for Nigerian Apostles to discover these erroneous teachings thousand years later.

That's strange!

Well, if you think Jesus who called Paul didn't know about all his teachings. Then you don't have any options than to agree that Paul was never called by Jesus Christ.

achorladey:
The conclusion that will be readily drawn from here is that they don't need to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to do what Jesus taught.......madness and insanities peddling 1 exposed. You added

I will rephrase

And you have just stayed above

The reason Emusan said....

Honestly! He needs to check on himself.

From "All i need is are contributions from Bible scholars..." to Bible scholars now equal the lost sheep of the household of Isreal.

Reason why he always attached 'intelligent Officer' to himself because he knows he is very far from anything intelligence.

MaxInDHouse:
Even though it's irrelevant to you we know our own when we meet them by their stance on what they believe and those practicing what they believe along with themselves.

They could be found in any religion i repeat "in any religion" one way we recognize them is the same language we speak with them which is "there is no other religion that is worshiping our God apart from our group" anywhere you find such a person please introduce them to us because they are the real "Bible scholars" or "lost sheep of the house of Israel" our Master Lord and King asked us to search for! Matthew 10:6

So if you're one of them please mention your own group and why you strongly believe that's the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught.

Thanks for your contribution!

Reading this nonsense can reduce someone IQ with over 45%

The only thing I'll just say is, get well soon!

MaxInDHouse:
The phrase "BIBLE SCHOLARS" refers to people who have used the Bible to stand firm on their unique faith and aren't interested in interfaith such ones will provide scripturally based points and present the group that's into what they believe and of course they're also members of such faith.

Even though that's not the meaning of Bible scholar just your delusion.

But That's very nice!
So mentioned their monikers

Abi you don't know them?

@color is another straight bullet point.

Not people who don't know their right from left to the extent that any form of worship is acceptable to them as long as such ones claim CHRISTIANS that's why i have kept all of you on your toes since none of you has any unique faith.

Over 41,000 different religions out there and all claiming they're doing the will of one God is unscriptural and illogical only true Bible scholars will be interested in knowing which one is really doing God's will!

Thanks for your contribution!

Irrelevant here!

oteneaaron:
You're talking about Archoladey at 3:42 AM??

He must be giving you sleepless nights.

That's to tell you how restless his life is and how he doesn't have life outside nairaland.

Reason why you see him using different monikers because if one is blocked he'll change to another just because his life has been tied to this forum.

Lastly, the reason why he was agitating for people like us to suddenly disappear on this forum because we use to pour sand sand to his garri.

achorladey:
The mode of operations of his GODS of men housed in USA is what he is using too on nairaland. You will see in their watchtower how they will type "one bible scholar" stated with no name attached. By the time you copy the words out and search for it on search engines you get to see most of the time, those Bible scholars are the same Christendom they love to condemn yer they use their words, works and publications as truth.

Absolutely!

For him to use the phrase "Bible Scholars" shows he agreed that many actually have in dept of Bible understanding here compare to the lie he was told in the hall.

He knows he has already roped himself when he said he is expecting Bible scholars to comment.

Yet he failed to mentioned their moniker to call their attention on his own thread.

The next question to be asked of him will be, are these Bible scholars know the truth?

Reason why he locked up at the moment of pointing out that part of his post but the damage has been done already

MaxInDHouse:
Bible scholars are respectful, friendly and patient people not arrogant and hurtful.

Who are these Bible scholars?

Don't they have names?

Why are you afraid of mentioning their names?

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your contribution!

I asked a question, you didn't see that in my post?

MaxInDHouse:
Now obviously something is wrong somewhere!

All i need is contributions from Bible scholars the two questions are there for anyone to air his or her own opinion so if you've made your contribution it's OK let's hear from others i'm not inviting people for arguments!

So you know there are Bible scholars that you can actually learn from yet the same you will be claiming ONLY JWS know the Bible in fact you even called Bible your Book.

Now, if you want to be sincere to yourself, who are these Bible Scholars and why can't you mention their monikers to call their attention?

Anyways, does the TITLE of this this your thread make any sense to you?

The fact that you created a thread going to two days now and you couldn't detect any grammatical error on the title says it all.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what makes you stupid

Thanks for that.

because if my religion says something and i have backing from the scriptures

If there's a scriptural back up, we won't be on it till now but you can't provide a single scripture to back up the lies told by your gods.

all you need to do is agree or disagree either way you can't change what my religion taught me except you have a better performing religion!

That's why I provided a teaching from your own organisation about the two verses you misunderstanding.

So as it stands now, children aren't God's enemies. Anyone who taught this is against God's word.

achorladey:
loooool! Caught as usual in his lies and manipulations. Now that you have been exposed terribly, you want to cover it up.

Cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz.

aemmyjah the madness and insanities peddler, come and second your brother. Looool!

The next thing you'll see him doing to evade this shameful act is how to link that moniker with yours, or Oteneaaron, or Courz, or Myself then you see his brother who always feels his humiliation will come as a supporting striker

Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs

Pure lie!

The scriptures says "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life." - Gal 6:7-8

This is where the law of Karma was drawn.

So, to Christians your wrong doing against them is left for God and according to the scriptures above, God is in charge.

hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination

Yes! God's forgiveness and karma are two different things.

MaxInDHouse:
Which organization told you that babies are enemies of God?

Your gods in Warwick said so.

So, I opened your eyes to see that no scripture supported that claim.

Since watchtower has already explained what that Psalm & Romans were saying, it means you bringing that to support the lie can't hold water.

MaxInDHouse:
Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin. Psalms 51:5

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God Romans 3:23

With the above innocence is not an excuse!

You're still repeating the same thing.

I educated you the last time even bringing your own organisation explanation about the two verses.

So, babies are INNOCENT they can't be enemies of God.

Even human knowledge demands that once you're declared INNOCENT by a competent court of law, no one can called you a criminal. How much more with that be with God?

For you to believe bables are INNOCENT and still believe that they are God's enemies shows something is wrong with your understanding.

Below are your organisation explanation.

Why are you not in one line of thought with your organisation?

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
We are all born sinners {Romans 3:23; 5:12}

I have explained this to you even using your own organisation teaching but it seems you don't want to learn.

The attached is your organisation teaching, this is not hard to understand.

but the OP is asking if a newly baby committed a sin that's what i explained that regarding commiting sin the baby is INNOCENT.

Then you contradicting yourself by providing that Bible verse.

It's evident that you don't understand the verse you provided

For more insight on INNOCENT and FAITHFUL read more on the below thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/7848261/difference-he-innocent-faithful

May you have PEACE!

The point here is that babies can't be said to be faithful because they don't even know anything of such the same way with SIN.

The fact is, babies are INNOCENT and to be innocent is to be without sin that means they can't be an enemies of God.

So for you agreed with your gods show you don't know what you're saying.

MaxInDHouse:
NO, regarding such the child is innocent he can't know what sin means nor how to avoid it!

But you agreed with your gods that children are God's enemies.

So, if a Child is INNOCENT and can't know what SIN means.

Is an INNOCENT and someone who doesn't sin an enemy of God?

Aemmyjah:
All these stories are somehow

There's one JW who left and was looking for a megachurch with powers
He entered one church here in Uyo and during the prophecy time, the prophet removed one white handkerchief and began to wave it across the church and people started vomiting... Everyone was vomiting and this brother was in front.
The pastor noticed him and came down and waved the handkerchief. The brother was embarrassed but was determined not to vomit cos he saw no significance of vomiting right inside the church but he felt this great upset in his stomach but he was determined not to vomit. The pastor gave up and told him he has many demons... Na so dis brother wey de brag say e go comot go better church, na e use e leg return with humility.
The greatest thing to happen to me was leaving Pentecostal church to bear God's name

All his stories are somehow but your own story is the authentic one

This delusion is outer this world

Pinicop:
Who told you the security agencies doesn't know where the kidnappers are?

Security agencies know their location but the rough terrain is the most challenging part. As their location is always deep forest.

A colleague of mine who took the risk in 2020 to take ransom to the kidnappers narrated that, it'll only take high level security operations to engage those demons.

This story is not even stressful, my colleague said they were on bike for almost 2hr before they could reach the village they were told to go and trek for more than an hour. He also said the demons counted the money ₦2m then to ensure it's complete.

My Uncle's wife said they were made to walk for over 2days and lucky for her she was told to go back for the best reason known to them (maybe because my uncle was shot that night and he was between life and death) but the wife said they told the rest of people kidnapped to continue the journey bare footed in the bush to tell you that those demons doing that evil in a very deep forest.

Unfortunately, that's what we're living with up North.

Zanzibar1:
It hasn't save me so far. I have to be honest about that. I just know there Is an ultimate being, but it's hard too say if he is really interested in human affairs

You're not alone, many are like you but that doesn't mean it's not the ONLY NAME given under heaven whereby man will be saved.

I'm glad you didn't say, "it has not saved ANYBODY."

Zanzibar1:
In times of doubts in believing in christ or God due to the difficulties in life, I find myself saying I am not going to call the name "Jesus" again since it seems inefficient to solve my problems.

But when something of shock or an unbelievable circumstance happens, I find myself shouting Jesus Christ. Some times, I just shout God involuntarily.

I have seen people who claim to be atheist or Muslims and when bad things of great magnitude happens, the shout "Jesus" in shock.

I have come to conclusion that, the name Jesus is strong. Very strong. Maybe the name is a code that has been inscribed into our genetics or maybe it's because we were taught the name right from childhood. But once anything happens that is surprising, I say Jesus. Why?


I keep asking myself,

Because it's the NAME ABOVE ALL NAME and it's the only name given under heaven that man can be saved.

MightySparrow:
The GB has erased every iota of sense in the JWs that they don't know that our God still interacts with humans today. In fact the sole purpose for creation of man is fellowship. Micah 6:8. The Governing Body has reduced experience of God to Hebrew and Greek lexicons. MaximumSide is a product of delusion
I wonder what they discuss in their kingdom Halls. No faith no experience with God only echoing the delusional Governing Body that are led by the devil.

We read from the scripture that: "Judas (not Judas Iscariot, but the other disciple with that name) said to him, “Lord, why are you going to reveal yourself only to us and not to the world at large?” Jesus replied, “All who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with each of them." - John 14:22-23

They always claim they're the one obeying Christ and Jehovah. Then asked them if they have experienced this part of Jesus statement.

You'll see them given that verse another meaning.

Like I said, they'll also doubt Abraham if they were alive during his time when God visited him and ate with him, forget their lies of we love God and God is only in our midst.

He is ready to dismiss anything as long it done by Christian even if such thing is written in white and black in the scripture.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, in His Gospel, described the Holy Spirit who is also known as the Spirit of Truth as having a will of His own - John 14 vs 25-26 & John 15 vs 26-27 & John 16 vs 4-16 - much like persons do.

Absolutely!

That means you agreed with Jesus that Holy Spirit is a person!

Kobojunkie:
Anyways, Jesus Christ did not describe a trinity.

No one says He does.

Rather z He differentiated Himself from His Father and the one who is the Spirit of Truth, even as He continually emphasized their oneness - being of accord/agreement.

Still the same point above.

The emphasis is on 1 John 5:7 as it makes Holy Spirit to be a person.

Do you understand that?

NuclearWinter:
You meant to say current and not wave.

Mr I Too Know, it's Wave and not current.

cardoctor:
Was the Captain drunk?

No! The wave can take the control of the ship away from the captain.

MightySparrow:
Have you abandoned your Kingdom Hall for Damina 's church?
I can see you echo his message.

He has not left Hall but he knows if the story of Baba Adeboye is true, then it means whatever it's happening in the hall is false.

because that means God is with Baba Adeboye, that is why you see him so restless about Baba Adeboye story of drinking tea with God.

He believes God came down to dine with Abraham.

He believes Jesus after resurrection took another human body to dine with His disciples.

Note: If people like them are around during the time of Abraham and Jesus, they won't believe all what happened that time because the Devil doesn't want them to know how powerful God is, their god is so limited in power that they begin to see him like mere human.

Kobojunkie:
1. Humans understand even Satan, equally a spirit, to be a kind of individual or person. So how can perceiving the Holy Spirit of God in similar fashion be of issue?

It's an issue to them because Holy Spirit must not be seen as a person to dismiss the Trinity claim just as it's an issue with you with your numerous false teachings here.

Michael547:
Oga if you cannot point it out then forget it.

The last time I checked, you're the one so curious and demanding answer from me.

Educated and literate people read and understand a post before engaging, but this is what you failed to do at beginning then want me to waste my time, when you're the one who quoted my post without doing the necessary.

Obrigardo:
Does that mean a 4 month old baby violated God's law? what kind of destructive doctrine is that?

I believe that question of yours has been answered above.