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Michael547:
😁😁😁😁😁....so because of me, you won't tell other people about the true church? Even when we have agreed that we are liars? Na wa oo😁😁😁

because I'm not here to promote any church but Jesus Christ and His Word.

I want you to back it up with evidence that you agree that Jws have no TRUTH then I'll take you serious.

It's evident from your post your intent.

Michael547:
You don't even know whether I am beginning to see things from your viewpoint that this Jws are lying.

You're still lying.

Why are you so convinced that I am lying?

because you're a Jws defending everything Jws but still claiming THE HAVE NO TRUTH.

MY POINT IS, YOU Don't NEED TO LIE before making your point.

Show me the true church na so that I can start going there from this Sunday.

Address the issue at hand first.

Michael547:
Ok...so now that watchtower can't achieve the same just like politicians, what is now the way forward?

The truth is, human must be governed.

The human government we have today aren't perfect because they are human but no one can erased their efforts too.

And for watchtower not achieve that means Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit isn't RULING NOW because perfection to human ruling is what God's Kingdom all about.

Do we keep voting in more wicked politicians that will continue the misery or we pray for God's kingdom to come to the earth?
Which one?

I like this question.

Yes we keep voting whether they are wicked or not, remember God recognises human rulers.

Watchtower that is not wicked also couldn't ACHIEVE what (wicked) politicians can't achieved which means it's not about wickedness and to claim ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED is a false.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sorry you've trapped him so he will either disappear from the thread or ask you to go back to his past comments since you've refused to allow him change the subject matter!

I'm not a liar like you people.

Why must he answered that Jws has no TRUTH yet still defending the same people that has no TRUTH.

Does it make sense?

If he had addressed my point without lying I'll answer his question.

Michael547:
Oya I'm sorry. Let's leave JWs with all their lies.
What is the name of the true church?

Address the main issue and stop being childish.

Why did you lie?

Michael547:
JWs have never claimed that God's kingdom is ruling on earth now?

What then is the difference between God's Kingdom and Christ Ruling as King?

So I wonder where you are getting confused from.
When God was ruling through kings over the isrealites,

Now shifting goal post.

Were they having problems?
Yes or no?

Don't digress here!

Anyway, it's evident now that what you are accusing the Politicians can't achieve because it's WORLDLY GOVERNMENT Watchtower can't still achieve the same with JEHOVAH, JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT Government.

Aemmyjah:
What's the name of your church again that teaches the truth

Address my point before asking question.

Michael547:
😁😁😁😁....oga oya I want to repent and be going to the true church.
What is the name of the true church na?
Don't you want me to be saved?

Why did you lie in the first place?

And you want to be taking serious

Michael547:
I have already answered your questions too.

You haven't answered them, check it properly.

This is the evidence that you people like to gaslight issue.

So even when Jesus was not ruling with the apostles, was he not teaching them?

Teaching is different from RULING.

Is Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit RULING FROM HEAVEN today?

What will happen if God begins to RULE according to the scripture?

So how come the son of God was teaching the apostles and they were finding it hard to obey him?
What was the reason?

Like I said, RULING is different from teaching.

You didn't answer my question, did Jesus rule during the time of APOSTLES?

Now, you're trying to equate TEACHING with RULING which means Jesus ruling didn't start in 1914 but from the moment He ascended to heaven.

Michael547:
How do you know I am lying?

A truth lover won't be defending where there's no TRUTH.

You lied because you're a Jws and yet you claimed "YOU AGREED THAT JWS HAVE NO TRUTH" and even defending watchtower.

After we've pointed out JWs to be false, the next thing is to point out the true church na.

You're still lying and you don't need to lie to drive a point.

Why is that one now difficult for us to do?

because you build your first statement on lie.

Which church has the truth that you've mentioned so that I can start going there?

The point is, why must you lie to make a point?

Michael547:
Meaning that there was no difference between Jesus disciples and politicians of their time.

No! Jesus has not started ruling that time.

Or you want to claim Jesus ruling started with the Apostles?

Even after they saw Jesus face to face and were following him, they continued to argue about who was the greatest among themselves.

That's not the issue, the issue here is RULING (GOVERNED)

You want Politicians to provide EQUALITY, PEACE, JOY e.t.c bcoa they are RULING PEOPLE.

But Watchtower claimed Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit are the ones RULING IN THEIR MIDST TODAY, So why can't watchtower achieve EQUALITY, PEACE AND JOY IN THEIR MIDST?

So we can conclude that Jesus apostles and the politicians were the same.

Already answered above.

Thank you Mr Emusan for this eye opener.

Let your eyes keep opening.

Michael547:
I agree with you that Jws have no truth.

And you're lying, why?

So what church today has all the truth that you've mentioned?

You already lied above.

When you're ready let me know

Michael547:
Because we JWs are imperfect.

You're still not perfect after Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit CONTROLLING YOU.

So, which means there's no difference between politicians and watchtower.

We have never claimed to be able to rule this world and solve all the problems plaguing mankind.

Nobody say ruling the WORLD.

The little ruling under watchtower through Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit is what I'm talking about here.

Only God's kingdom on earth can make humans to be perfect and live happily without problems.

Has Jesus not started ruling?

IF YES! Then the governing body of JWs should have ALL THOSE LISTED POINT IN THEIR MIDST.

Michael547:
Ok I have heard you.
So what church today has all these truths?

Answer my question first!

Michael547:
Interestingly, Nigeria is not the only country in the world today. And Every country in the world has a problem that they are battling with.
The solution to making the world a better place where all humans can live peacefully in equality, peace and love without warfare, terrorism, hunger, sickness and death is exactly how Nigeria should be run.
But do you honestly think that human politicians today can achieve this?

Politicians can't achieve that but let's turn the table around.

Watchtower claimed to be directed by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and God's Holy Spirit.

Why can't watchtower achieve ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED in their midst?

Michael547:
can you mention some of the truths that they have that JWs don't have?

JWs don't have the truth of Holy Spirit not a person.

Jws don't have the truth of Speaking in Tongues.

Jws don't have the truth of God miracles in present day.

Can you tell us the truth that Jws has that others don't have?

Janosky:
Acts 11:26 & Acts 15:6-17, whose name did first century Christians teach Emusan they are bearing?

That's the same name that Jehovah God calls His chosen servants, 2 chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10 (ASV)
- Jehovah's witnesses.

Your brother claimed the name Christian is CURSED AND BASTARDISED do you agree?

Then are you a Christian?

Waiting for your answer!

MaxInDHouse:
I have listed the group names God's people were called from the time God established His covenant with Abraham till date. Of course all those group names are what God's servants were called from one generation to another before God declared the name He Himself intended to give His worshipers which is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
So i am by faith one of Abraham's descendants, Israelites, Jews, Christians, Followers of The Way, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

All the others group names were BASTARDIZED by Satan's agents until 1931 when JEHOVAH declared the name that cannot be BASTARDIZE!

Still reinforced that NO SERVANT OF GOD CLAIMED TO BE A JEHOVAH WITNESS

Are you a Christian? Yes or No!

Nobody asked you story Mr storyteller

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham's descendant.
Israelite.
Jew.
Christian.
Followers of The Way.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS!

Lots of religionists have stolen most of these names the one and only group name that you people can't steal again now is what we bear today!

So you're not a Christian in a nutshell, right?

MaxInDHouse:
"Never appear" you say?

Well it's found in God's word:

“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none" Isaiah 43:10

Even Paul mentioned it but it was hidden until 1931:

So, then, because we have such a great cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also throw off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us. Hebrews 12:1

Even Jesus is one of Jehovah's Witnesses:

and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— Revelations 1:5


But all these were hidden because Satan and his demons are looking for that group name so they can initiate members and give them but Jehovah kept it away even from angels in heaven:

It was revealed to them that they were ministering, not to themselves, but to you, regarding what has now been announced to you by those who declared the good news to you with holy spirit sent from heaven. Into these very things, angels are desiring to peer. 1Peter 1:12

So don't worry my friend Questionnaires is very intelligent he's not a biased observer!

No wonder nobody from Abel bears that name

So provide where anybody was called Jehovah Witness.

MaxInDHouse:
The group name that belongs to killers of their own brethren or peace loving worshipers of God? Mark 12:31; Luke 6:27-28; John 13:34-35

Continue deceiving yourself!

So are you a Christian?

Mr continue deceiving yourself

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
God's people were called so many group names in the Bible:

Abraham's descendants!
Israelites!
Jews!
The Way!
Christians!

These are names others gave God's people in ancient times.

So why the changes all these while?

Well each time some fall away from the faith those keeping up with the faith are given another name.

But God kept the name He wanted to give his worshipers throughout because the end time is when people having faith will be separated and globally recognized as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} as they speak the same language of PEACE as if they're one family! Zephaniah 3:9

So what happened to the last group name "CHRISTIANS" given to God's people? Act 11:25

Well Satan initiated so many groups claiming they are CHRISTIANS making it really difficult for any interested person to identify Jesus followers and what they're supposed to be doing during the end time. Matthew 13:24-30

That's why God waited until Jesus separated his true followers {Revelations 18:4} from all the false religions claiming 'CHRISTIANS' and these ongoing work is assisted by angels penning down the names of those practicing what Jesus taught and those listening to them! Malachi 3:16-18 compare to Revelations 20:15

So in the year 1931 something strange happened to God's people a brother named J.F Rutherford announced to all lovers of peace globally that we now have a new group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

This is in line with what is recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 65:15

That is why all others who are still under Satan's control even though they're all having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines you can see that they don't know why they hate that name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

It's evident from this that the name Jehovah Witness:

1. Never appeared in the Bible
2. No Bible character was ever called by that name
3. Was given to watchtower group by Rutherford in 1931 (which is against your previous lie that ALL SERVANTS OF GOD from Abel till now are Jehovah Witness)

Lastly, in line with the screenshot it's evident you and other Jws aren't Christian.

MaxInDHouse:
Any group that's in support of fighting against his neighbors due to politics is a curse to that group name so they have tarnished the image of those who bear that group name in the first century.

I'm glad you agreed it's the NAME CHRISTIAN the first century people bear and not another name.

So you're not part of our group name then shut your mouth off.

Questionnaires:
Why Are So Many Christians Against Jehovah Witnesses ? Why ?

No Christian is against Jws but their teachings which are not in line with the scriptures.

What can you say about the screenshot below?

These are from a JWs.

MaxInDHouse:
Is it that you don't know what CHRISTIANS means or you just want to continue deceiving yourself?

At least you told us that the name is CURSED AND BASTARDISED, everyone knows the meaning of whatever is cursed and bastardised.

Well no Christian must lift up weapons in support of war because Jesus commanded us not to kill either our enemies, neighbour or fellow believers.

Provide the evidence of Christian lifting up weapons.

Besides, what is your problem with Christian lifting up weapons, are you a Christian?

So whoever egages in such is not a Christian!

You can't dictate for us.

According to you, "whosoever think he belongs to Christ under the old bastardised and cursed old group name should think twice"

Also, your god has told you to leave the name Christian for us and you did, so who are you to tell us who is a Christian and what to engage in?

In case you forgot read the screenshot below.

Kobojunkie:
He is your God meaning you are born of the blood of Jacob, right?

Were you also born of the blood of Jacob?

MaxInDHouse:
It's either there are no Christians among those fighting and killing people if Christians are among those hiding in the camps.

The truth is that it's the same politicians who are fighting against one another that's setting up refugee camps not Christians.
True Christians only follow whatever politicians say during wars because they are the ones who knew the cause of the wars and where the neutral citizens can stay.

So you don't have evidence for your lies!

That's nice

achorladey:
He wants to divert and deflect as usual

Christendom providing safe heaven for them since year 1914

That's it.

No main Christian presence no Jws presence.

MaxInDHouse:
So are your own fellow believers also no part of those killers?

No killer in war ARMY face ARMY.

What is the reason those people who don't go to wars gave you?

First acknowledge that NOT ALL CHRISTIAN go to war. Then you'll know the reason.

Why do you consider those fighting and killing their fellow believers as Christians when Jesus commanded Christians his disciples to love their fellow Christians but they are killing their fellow believers?

Provide evidence that BELIEVERS ARE KILLING FELLOW BELIEVERS.

Why is that so hard for you?

Answer those questions if you're truly a believer in Christ Jesus!

I've answered but if you're the one you'll turn a blind eyes.

MaxInDHouse:
So in Islamic countries there are no refugee camps!

That's not the point.

Christians have refugee camps where jws also hide.

So not all Christians fight war which means people including jws who make use of that camps are safe.

helinues:
I am sorry for my ignorant.

Could you tell us more about Noak's ark?

The fact is the picture you're trying to paint doesn't exist.

If you read Bible you will see all you need to know about Noah's Ark.

But while reading it, have it at the back of your mind that Noah never claimed everything happened on their own cause but through divine guidance.

Like the picture you're trying to paint, this is what the scripture says "Pairs of every kind of bird, and every kind of animal, and every kind of small animal that scurries along the ground, WILL COME TO YOU TO BE KEPT ALIVE." - Gen 6:20 which means those animals will come through the help of God to where Noah is.

helinues:
Hahaha, I made it simpe ni without cracking head about how Noah was able to communicate with the animals that are not around his territory to come and board his ark.

And that shows you don't understand what you're using as a point. Which means you're simply painting a wrong picture of what transpired for cheap likes.