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Michael547:
If you claim that we have agreed, why are you taking me Back again.

Then as educated person, you should know when a question mark is used.

I used "RIGHT?" which means I want you to affirm my point.

You are a very dubious man.

Waooooo for you to know this it means the discussion is taking turn.

Shebi you Said that God gives everyone wisdom on who to vote for?

I said "USED YOUR GOD'S GIVEN WISDOM."

You see where simple lack of comprehension landed you.

So God gives people wisdom to vote for a particular politician and later claims he did not ordain the politician?

No! God gives human wisdom to do many things not just to vote.

Mr Emusan you are making sense.
Clap for yourself

Clap for your lack of comprehension.

MaxInDHouse:
Humans are intelligent creatures but WISDOM only belongs to the true worshipers of God!

No one can be wise if he is not a disciple of the wise counselor {Isaiah 9:6} sent to teach us how to become wise!

Out of POV

Next!

MaxInDHouse:
He always rush into any thread that has to do with Jehovah's Witnesses only to join the critics but now that his cohorts aren't here his folly becomes obvious!

Funny liar!

You think I need someone to praise me and started filling like a child given biscuits before I make my point on Nairaland?

I've been on this thread taking three of you that shows I'm capable even if you add all your hall join.

Michael547:
The guy is confused.
He said God gave wisdom for people to vote all politicians in the last election even though not all were ordained by God.
Is that not funny😁😁

Another evidence that you people are terrible liar.

I said YOU SHOULD USE YOUR GOD'S GIVEN WISDOM.

Do GOD give EVERYONE BRAIN?

Does that mean EVERYTHING done by people with brain shows God ORDAINED IT?

So, how is that translates to ALL POLITICIANS ARE OR AREN'T ORDAINED by God simply because I told you to use your God's given wisdom?

It's evident you're the one puffing out those imagination from your brain.

Michael547:
I agree that the GBs are not ruling on earth through Jehovah and Jesus. They never claimed to be rulers on earth.

That's not answer to my question!

Yet you claimed we ALREADY AGREED.

Here is my question again:

Which means you agreed that Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit aren't RULING with the GB, is that right?

So are you telling me that God gives people wisdom to vote for a politician that he does not ordain?

So the wisdom God gave EVERYONE including Atheist means whatever they do with it means God ORDAINED it.

Who are these politician that God does not ordain?

The Governing Body of Jws! reasons why they couldn't achieve what WICKED politicians can't achieve also.

MaxInDHouse:
So we can say there's none of those soldiers fighting and killing one another both in Russia and Ukraine that belongs to this your BODY OF CHRIST shey?

Many soldiers are part of the Body of Christ.

The point is, war isn't about THE BODY OF CHRIST, it can be between villages, ethnic, region and countries.

Many COUNTRIES TODAY ARE NOT IN WAR WITH EACH OTHER.

Now my question, do the war between Russia and Ukraine affect the Jws in those two countries?

Michael547:
We've agreed GBs are like politicians na.

Which means you agreed that Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit aren't RULING with the GB, is that right?

So your answers are a reflection of the GBs too.

No! Until we establish that.

because you haven't come out boldly about why GB couldn't achieve what politicians can't achieve despite Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit RULING with them.

Teaching is different from RULING.

So is it not wrong for people to complain about a politician since all politicians are ordained by God?

I take the bold part as your statement, right?

People will always complaining and that's because human government can't fulfill all what people want.

Michael547:
Show me where I taught that the JWs are better than everyone.

And the lie continue.

Well if you don't, you can't feign ignorant that your fellow jws do on this forum.

In fact, a jws made the claims on the screenshots below

Do you agree with that or not?

Answer my questions!

Michael547:
So are you saying that God led people to vote for Obi and Atiku only for them to end up losing?
And are you saying that the three Politicians were all good and non of them were bad?
Does that not mean that all politicians are good and that there is nothing really like a bad politician?

You asked your question now and I answered, don't dare dodge my question when it's my turn.

MaxInDHouse:
Does this BODY OF CHRIST engage in wars so as to kill their fellow believers in other countries during wars?

Government of every countries are in charge of WAR, many countries today are not fighting ANY WAR in fact human war isn't rampage now compare to stone age.

So Body of Christ has never engaged in war.

One funny thing is, how you people will be dodging someone questions and you will be expecting your questions to be answered.

Michael547:
So are you saying that Tinubu is President today because his voters used their God given wisdom?

Yes!

I heard some pastors say that Peter Obi was anointed by God to be the president.
So does that mean that they were lying?

And you can't asked them, why asking me?

So do you see why we need to agree on the politician to vote for?

Millions agreed and voted Tinubu
Millions agreed and voted Obi
Millions agreed and voted Atiku

But in fairness of human they said MAJORITY carried the vote and after election you will hear election of is over NOW LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

TO YOU IS THIS METTHOD WRONG?

Meanwhile, your GB who you all agreed with STILL COULDN'T DO WHAT POLITICIANS THAT YOU NEED ALL IN AGREEMENT DO.

SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

Aemmyjah:
I don't quote scriptures?
U rarely do so
So rest?

So I do quote Scripture that's the point.

Michael547:
Please can I join you to worship this Sunday?
Where are we going to meet?

You're always welcome?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Based on which scripture
Have you not seen how Maxindhouse base his comments on the scriptures
Quoting several scriptures and putting meaning into it

Can't remember when last u did such

Using someone as reference and what happened to yourself?

O ma se ooo

Well, if you lie that you haven't seen my post with Biblical reference, can I blame you? Definitely No!

Michael547:
Humans must have leaders.

Good as you know.

But which one has God chosen for us to vote for so that we will all be in agreement for that politician to win?

Your GB were chosen by God, isn't it?

Why are they not doing what Politicians couldn't do?

In the last election, who was the one that God said you should vote for?

My post said use your "God given wisdom" or did I say God told me someone?

Well, the clear point here is that your GB who claimed to be RULING by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit can't achieve ALL WHAT YOU LISTED ABOVE.

Yet you want to put the blame on Politicians.

Aemmyjah:
U attend one that has a name
Yet, u can't mention

Many people here can easily identify us by our religion

You have joined Kobojunkie and Steep as members of the lost, unknown church with unknown worshippers all over the world yet una no de agree

Very funny of you people.

I know it's not about the church that people attend that is making you people to be asking always WHICH CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND?

But because you people just want to use that as a defensive attacked, that is, quickly Google what negative things people have said about such Church and quote it.

That is why someone like me will discuss with you based on the scriptures and not about where you worshipped.

MaxInDHouse:
Does this Billions includes Jehovah's Witnesses members?

You already said JWs aren't Christian.

So why the question?

If not what exactly makes over 47,000 different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines your church.

because it's not about DENOMINATION as seeing in the scripture but ABOUT THE TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST called His Body the Church.

Michael547:
Ok fine.
But where do you guys meet here in Nigeria where I live?

We are all around you.

You do hear our LOUD. SPEAKER.

Michael547:
Ok sorry sir.
Can you mention a good and wicked politician that you know today so that I can know the one to vote and also The one to avoid in the next election.

You access them with your God given wisdom.

After all, you will welcome any appointed person into the Governing Body of Watchtower who despite the ruling from Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit and not wicked but still couldn't achieved what (wicked) politicians can't achieve.

Human must be Governed UNTIL GOD'S KINGDOM COMES!

Now my question, since God's Kingdom has not comes, do you think human should not have leaders?

Michael547:
Ok...are there others that study the Bible with you and know the truth?
If yes, where do you guys normally meet? so that I can join you guys.

Billions all over the world.

MaxInDHouse:
You came to tell someone that his religion is false

Yes! because I'm using scripture to support my claim.

while he's still defending what he believes

Yet he lied.

Can you see why I said he lies?

now instead of you to present the better one you're asking him to prove that his own is wrong!

I didn't ask him.

HE LIED TO THE PUBLIC THAT HIS OWN IS WRONG while still DEFENDING IT.

What does that mean?

Ọmọ this people are really really funny!

Check who is funny.

Michael547:
😁😁😁Ahhhh.... Meaning that you sef has not found the true church.

As long as I found The Bible I know the Truth.

Cause how can you know the true church and not promote it?😁😁

because scripture never talked about the TRUE CHURCH as in NAME.

Aemmyjah:
What's ur point?

You quoted my post, so you didn't read it before quoting it

Michael547:
So can you mention a politician that is not wicked, so that I can vote for him in the next election.

To CLAIM ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED shows you don't know what you're saying and you're dishonest.

Michael547:
😁😁😁😁😁....so because of me, you won't tell other people about the true church? Even when we have agreed that we are liars? Na wa oo😁😁😁

because I'm not here to promote any church but Jesus Christ and His Word.

I want you to back it up with evidence that you agree that Jws have no TRUTH then I'll take you serious.

It's evident from your post your intent.

Michael547:
You don't even know whether I am beginning to see things from your viewpoint that this Jws are lying.

You're still lying.

Why are you so convinced that I am lying?

because you're a Jws defending everything Jws but still claiming THE HAVE NO TRUTH.

MY POINT IS, YOU Don't NEED TO LIE before making your point.

Show me the true church na so that I can start going there from this Sunday.

Address the issue at hand first.

Michael547:
Ok...so now that watchtower can't achieve the same just like politicians, what is now the way forward?

The truth is, human must be governed.

The human government we have today aren't perfect because they are human but no one can erased their efforts too.

And for watchtower not achieve that means Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit isn't RULING NOW because perfection to human ruling is what God's Kingdom all about.

Do we keep voting in more wicked politicians that will continue the misery or we pray for God's kingdom to come to the earth?
Which one?

I like this question.

Yes we keep voting whether they are wicked or not, remember God recognises human rulers.

Watchtower that is not wicked also couldn't ACHIEVE what (wicked) politicians can't achieved which means it's not about wickedness and to claim ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED is a false.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sorry you've trapped him so he will either disappear from the thread or ask you to go back to his past comments since you've refused to allow him change the subject matter!

I'm not a liar like you people.

Why must he answered that Jws has no TRUTH yet still defending the same people that has no TRUTH.

Does it make sense?

If he had addressed my point without lying I'll answer his question.

Michael547:
Oya I'm sorry. Let's leave JWs with all their lies.
What is the name of the true church?

Address the main issue and stop being childish.

Why did you lie?

Michael547:
JWs have never claimed that God's kingdom is ruling on earth now?

What then is the difference between God's Kingdom and Christ Ruling as King?

So I wonder where you are getting confused from.
When God was ruling through kings over the isrealites,

Now shifting goal post.

Were they having problems?
Yes or no?

Don't digress here!

Anyway, it's evident now that what you are accusing the Politicians can't achieve because it's WORLDLY GOVERNMENT Watchtower can't still achieve the same with JEHOVAH, JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT Government.

Aemmyjah:
What's the name of your church again that teaches the truth

Address my point before asking question.

Michael547:
😁😁😁😁....oga oya I want to repent and be going to the true church.
What is the name of the true church na?
Don't you want me to be saved?

Why did you lie in the first place?

And you want to be taking serious