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PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right (2) by engineerboat(m): 8:53am On Jul 23, 2015
dekdek:
The colored is the key word from Buharis speech. Check ur link very well, there are several columns. He may have nominated early his co workers but they were never confirmed early. Infact before confirmation, hearings av to be done by the American Senate which happended far after when Obama nominated. They didnt start work till the senate completed her task. That is the main point of the General. Obama didnt have his full cabinet ready for several months.
Buhari is right on point.
Did you take time to go thru the second link, Majority of the Cabinet were approved by the Senate on January 20 2009. the day Obama was Officially inaugurated, how does dat compare to MONTHS after.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right (2) by engineerboat(m): 8:51am On Jul 23, 2015
Dollar101:
Oga Goodmorning, The thread was not about NOMINATIONS, when nominated candidates was sent to the senate it took several months for verification, there is a huge difference between NOMINATE and APPOINTED, please take note of the context.
That is what we are still saying, Obama nominate His cabinet December 2008, He was inaugurated January 20 2009. On that Same day large percentage of His Cabinet have been approved by the senate. which means By January 21 2009, Obama Administration start with His Secretaries running the Government.
The Question is did Obama wait for 4 months before making Nomination.
Now why comparing yours with Obama, when PMB had not even send any nomination to the senate for approval bearing in minds the time tis take for Senate Approval.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right (2) by engineerboat(m): 8:41am On Jul 23, 2015
dekdek:
Kindly qoute The General correctly and disprove what he said and not what u think APC said or what u think they may have meant.
From his word,

“When cabinet ministers are appointed in September, it will be some months after I took the oath of office. It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim” President Buhari said.

READ MORE: http://www.diamondreport.com.ng/2015/07/fact-check-buhari-lied-about-obamas.html?utm_source=copyright-attrib
Copyright © Diamond Report.

But Obama had His major cabinet members are constituted January 2009.

Barack Obama's Cabinet, as of January 2009, is proposed to comprise:

– President Barack Obama Inaugurated January 20, 2009
– Hillary Rodham Clinton assumed the office of Secretary of State on January 21, 2009
– On January 26, 2009, the U.S. Senate confirmed Geithner’s appointment as Secretary of the Treasury – On December 1, 2008,
President-elect Obama announced that Robert Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during his administration – On December 1, 2008,
Obama announced that Eric Holder would be his nominee for Attorney General. Holder was formally nominated on January 20, 2009 –
Ken Salazar assumed the office of Secretary of the Interior on January 21, 2009 after a unanimous voice vote on the floor of the full Senate
– Tom Vilsack assumed the office of Secretary of Agriculture on January 21, 2009 – Hilda Solis assumed office as Secretary of Labor on February 24, 2009
– Shaun Donovan was confirmed as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development on January 27, 2009.
– Arne Duncan was confirmed as Secretary of Education on January 21, 2009.
– Eric Shinseki assumed the office of Secretary of Veterans Affairs on January 20, 2009
– Janet Napolitano assumed the office of Secretary of Homeland Security on January 21, 2009.
– Steven Chu was unanimously confirmed as Secretary of Defense by the U.S. Senate on January 20, 2009.
– Former Republican Congressman Ray LaHood was confirmed as Secretary of Transportation on January 23, 2009

The check also revealed that 1 of the 13 appointments, Robert Gates, was “confirmed technically in December 2008” before Obama was inaugurated. “The remaining 2 of the 15 … Gary Locke Secretary of Commerce (confirmed February 23 2009) and Kathleen Sebelius Secretary of Health and Human Resources (confirmed April 28, 2009) were nominated later than one week”



http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

Did you get that
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right (2) by engineerboat(m): 8:31am On Jul 23, 2015
dustmalik:
The emphasis here is on the word 'FULL', which was the exact word Buhari used. The saTANist AKA Wailing Wailers don't have an argument here, as far as any right-thinking person is concerned. In Barcanista's eagerness to criticize Buhari, he failed to comprehend.
since you are concern about the word full, Obama had about 85% cabinet at Immedeattely after inauguration. Which include Secretary of State,

Now to Baba, where is our Secretary to the Government of the Federation, (SGF), Chief of Staff to the president, Minister of defence (We are in war with BH), e.t.c to start with,
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right (2) by engineerboat(m): 8:26am On Jul 23, 2015
musiwax:
As expected, the chief culprit goofed again in his rebuttal thread. While he should be applauded for his effeminate attempt at objectivity, we remain resolute in getting rid of the smoke screen.

In this link https://www.nairaland.com/2469370/buhari-article-obamas-cabinet-2, he tried to analyse each position without proper recourse to objectivity and context. I will go on with showing him where he's wrong in his analysis.


Before we continue in this journey of enlightenment, here's an excerpt of an article that confirms my earlier position about Obama's first term.

All presidential administrations have vacancies. But an analysis of appointments data by ProPublica shows that President Obama hasn’t kept up with his predecessors in filling them. A greater share of presidentially appointed positions that require Senate confirmation were sitting vacant at the end of Obama’s first term than at the end of Bill Clinton’s or George W. Bush’s first terms.

At least 68 of the positions remain vacant, including 43 that have been vacant for more than a year.

Acting heads of agencies “don’t make any big decisions,” said Cal Mackenzie, a professor of government at Colby College who has studied appointments since the 1970s. “Your authority is not going to be recognized in the same way a Senate-confirmed appointee is going to be recognized.”

Overall, more than 13 percent of presidentially appointed positions hadn’t been filled at the end of Obama’s first term, compared with around 10 percent for Bush and 11 percent for Clinton. While the uptick compared with the Bush administration may sound small, it translates into dozens more vacant positions.

Source: http://www.propublica.org/article/under-obama-more-appointments-go-unfilled

**Please note the importance of senate confirmation, irrespective of the time of nomination.


Another article states:
102 Days Into Term, Obama Fills Out His Cabinet
For a president who had months to plan a smooth transition into a second term, Barack Obama has been in no great hurry to fill gaps in his Cabinet. After more than 100 days in office, he finally tidied up that task on Thursday -- and then admonished the Senate to confirm his newest nominees “without delay.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/03/102_days_into_term_obama_fills_out_his_cabinet_118244.html


A: The fact remains that the Commerce secretary position was vacant till confirmation in March.
For a period of 3 months irrespective of the nomination, the position is vacant until confirmation. In Buhari's case, permanent secretaries are playing this role, the fact that the Ministers are not in place doesn't mean that the ministries would stop working.

That was the first term, now in the second Term lets look at the commerce secretary position again:

COMMERCE - VACANT

Secretary John Bryson resigned in June for health reasons. Rebecca Blank, an economist, has been acting secretary since then.
Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/02/us-usa-cabinet-factbox-idUSBRE91100720130202


A: While its unfortunate that the nominee Mr Daschle withdrew his nomination, the fact remains that the position remained vacant for a period of 5 months, which further buttresses my earlier position on the subject.


A: It is very relevant to the subject because, despite having enough time to nominate his cabinet a second time, Obama being a responsible leader recognises the importance of meticulous planning before making appointments. Therefore, second term nominees remain valid to this debate.


A: Okay, you haven't shown us how the position of the secretary of Labour was filled immediately after Obama's inauguration. Thanks for confirming my position with links to buttress my points.


A: Okay champ, if you want to make a statement of fact, you need to be fair by telling us the whole context of Ray's stepping down. Since you ommitted it, I will Oblige you by stating the true picture of the turn of events.

WASHINGTON—Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood announced his resignation from the Obama Administration earlier this morning following his alleged involvement in the recent disappearance of U.S. Route 13. “Given his ongoing role in the investigation regarding last week’s sudden disappearance of this road, Mr. LaHood believes it is best that he step down from his position as Transport Secretary,” said LaHood’s spokesperson Jeffrey Graves, speaking to reporters after newly released photos showed the 67-year-old government official with the road just hours prior to when morning rush hour commuters discovered it was missing. “We also want to assure the public that Mr. LaHood is fully cooperating with investigators and has agreed to do whatever he can to ensure the return of this beautiful country road.”
Source: http://www.theonion.com/article/ray-lahood-resigns-following-mysterious-disappeara-31065

The article shows that Ray had to step down because of the controversy surrounding his term, during which period he cannot function in his capacity has the Secretary of Transportation because of his scandal.

Thanks for reading.

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Please take some time out and re-read you post once again, you will discover that what People are saying is that, in Obama first term He had made some larger percentage nomination of his ministries, submitted them for approval to the Senate, it now depend on when the Senate approve them. RIGHT
But for APC to tell us that obama fill up his cabinets months after inauguration, its totally false.

For now no major NOMINATIONS have been made to the senate for approval,

Going by your assumption "diference between nomination and senate approval", if by now no nomination has been sent to the SENATE for approval, then sent nomination to senate for approval by SEPTEMBER, then we should be waiting till 2016 to have a single minister approved by the senate. We are waiting and watching.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

PoliticsRe: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by engineerboat(m): 7:46am On Jul 23, 2015
handsomeyitayo:
neva mind make barcanista dey yan opata..him dey waste him time..instead of him doin reasonable things na rubbish be dis
then why is this Gvt basing their non appointment falsely on Obama first term in office, so you want Nigerians to swallow you fake CHANGE hook, it will not work
PoliticsRe: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by engineerboat(m): 7:40am On Jul 23, 2015
bayulll01:
Lol eleyi ti ya werey oooo,you need serious attentions else your case will be worst than barcanista himself that is suffering from stupiiidity,so got fan here u ve been stalking me abi,me I don't know you ooo
Nipa oro enu won, ni a o fi mo won, CHANJI indeed, while will CHANGErian want to force PROPANGADA on NIGERIANS, for Gods sake the last time i check, ELECTION is over. Why using false claim on Obama administration appointment, we are in a global world for Gods sake, you cannot hide facts and truth. All this govt is doing is accuse accuse accuse with now facts just to gain public sympathy, CHANGErians this will not work NIGERIANS are now wise
PoliticsRe: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by engineerboat(m): 7:32am On Jul 23, 2015
GangsterRevd:
You seem unemployed? Just curious.
so for saying the truth now translate to joblessness. But for Propaganda and lies nko. CHANGErians pls wake up this is NIGERIA, Stop Propaganda and lies, NIGRIAN tired of your Photo-show, get down to work. The day is going the sun is gradualling setting for this govt
Forum GamesRe: Only Genius Can Solve This by engineerboat(m): 4:32pm On Jul 22, 2015
bash4us:
Any guru in the house?

Please solve
Step 1. (11 -5) + (13-1) + (15-3) = 6 + 12 + 12 = 30

Step 2. All in base 9 (13) + (15) + (1) = 30
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 3:31pm On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
[s][/s]


Sadly, biafran village clowns, bigots and trolls like you bore me...
So ri iwo omo hi, enikeni it o ba it so onto baying ni omo Igbo BIAFRAN abi.
Why lying now,

Obama nominate his secretaries (ministers December 2008) they we're confirm on the day of Obama inauguration Jan 20 2009.

What did you say about that, is there any different from what @BARCANISTA is trying to clarify, why calling people BIAFRAN clown. Omoluwabi o kin PARO OOOOOOOOOO. Omo ODUDUWA daaaada Idi otito ni ti Ma nri won, sho ti gbo beyen.
CHANGErians enough is enough of lying sand PROPAGANDA


Ormolu w
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 3:20pm On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
That still didn't prevent Jona from administering the most corrupt, lazy and incompetent government on the surface of the earth.

Jona announced his cabinet 6 weeks after assuming office, longer than PMB, but of course, his hypocritical TaNoids and minions were not wailing like wailers all over the place.

Sadly for them, election is over and PMB is the president and Jona is not coming back.
Why are you people spurring out lies and propaganda that OBama nominate it's minister months after swearing in.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 3:10pm On Jul 22, 2015
BannedOtherView:
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Crapola! Asbsolute nonsense!!!
The operative word is "Full", Mr Hired Hack.



Now it would amount to a leap of faith to expect that level of discernment from your band of jaded co-travellers. I also know that as the biased NL authorities have silenced a number of people who can take you to the cleaners, you are enjoying this period of tomfoolery in the limelight. grin
Make the best of it while the going is good! Yeah, quote as many unqualified Wikipedia sources - as you are wont to do. It won't last forever, I tell you. cheesy

The White House - Nominations & Appointments (New) (Sorted by Date) -- https://open.whitehouse.gov/dataset/The-White-House-Nominations-Appointments-New-/nmc8-q2uj
Mr Man are we talking about Ambasadors.

Get your facts right Man. @BARCANISTA Is talking about secretary (equivalent of nigeria ministers) you are talking another thing.

For your understanding read this
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 11:41am On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
[s][/s]


How idiotic of you to demand change when in fact you did not vote for change and still don't want to change? What change are you talking about?

Worry about your loser worries and silly preoccupations and let Nigerians who voted for change worry about change.
A typical CHANGErian "Abuse is their Motto, and CHANGE promised to NIGERIANS"
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 11:40am On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
[s][/s]


How idiotic of you to demand change when in fact you did not vote for change and still don't want to change? What change are you talking about?

Worry about your loser worries and silly preoccupations and let Nigerians who voted for change worry about change.
Ogbeni ki ni wahala he bayi.

All your ranting goes nowhere, Nigeria cannot be a one party state, afterall "Baba if for "EVERYBODY and for NOBODY" get that into your head and stop abusing people over Nairaland.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:27am On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
You obviously spewed this TaNoid rubbish because of your Inability to read and comprehend just like the ignorant, disgraced and sha discredited op.

PMB said Obama did not have a full cabinet after inauguration which remains a fact.

The loser Nigerians kicked out of office and sent back to his village did not announce his cabinet till after 6 weeks in office so exactly what are you losers blabbing about? Were you losers crying and wailing back then.?


It's time you losers figure out that PMB is not working on losers time table..
Is that the CHANGE you promise NIGERIANS,

its time you CHANGErians stop given us "I WILL, I WILL"
If CHANGErians have nothing good for NIGERIANS its better you remains silent.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:21am On Jul 22, 2015
blackpriest0911:
Barcanista sniffs buhari pant for a living, a typical satan TANoid
E dey PAIN you CHANGErians indeed
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 9:26am On Jul 22, 2015
shamecurls:
[size=28pt]Wailing Wailers! Food is ready o![/size]
CHANGErians STOP misleading BABA with your Photo-show, Noise-making, Double tongue, Propaganda, Election is over, get work done.

Ile tin su bo die-die,

NIGERIANS want positive change not CHANGErians Negative change we are seeing now.
PoliticsRe: Obama Does Not Respect Buhari (photo) by engineerboat(m): 8:37am On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
[s][/s]



Olodo biafran loser, biafra is your headache, not mine...
So anybody that Oppose this government is now A BIAFRAN, hanhi CHANGErians when will you people learn to understand between the line, that People from all over the country are waiting to put this Government on their toe to start working.

Its time to work, Your Photo Show does not give NIGERIANS the change promised during your CHANGErians campaings
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 8:30am On Jul 22, 2015
aresa:
[s][/s]


What are we in togegher?

Are you not the same village biafran TaNoid shouting changerians all over the place.? Worry about your biafra and let Nigerians worry about Nigeria.

Village TaNoids bore me.
Omo ti o ba ni Iya oun ko ni sun, oun na ko ni fi oju kan orun. se oro yen ye o daaada.

We are talking about how to move this country forward you are here talking about Tanoid, se won so olubi re mo Tanoidi ni.

Why will you CHANGErians did not like truth like this. We Say NIGERIAN fe Ijoba ti a dibo fun, e n fun wa ni 1. Photo show, 2. Rinrin ajo kaakiri, 3. Promise upon promise. 4. I will, I will, I will Government.

Pls tell ALL CHANGErians that NIGERIANS are tired of "I WILL, I WILL". Let the govt get down to work, Ile ti nsu lo niyen ooooooooooo, 2019 ti de tan.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 11:27pm On Jul 21, 2015
aresa:
...but you can not be a PMB sycophant since you are already sycophant and pathetic apologist for the man Nigerians just soundly rejected and worldly known for corruption, looting, stealing and institutionalized corruption.

Losers follow losers so feel free to follow losers if it's really your portion in life, but Nigerians want no part of your master and the absurdities he subjected us to hence kicking him out of office and ending our nightmare.

You are on the wrong side of history and I hope and pray you remain on that side of history and failure..
Time will tell, we are in it together.
Jonathan is no more there, Now that Baba is there what has been the stepping stone for the PROMISE change, all we see is 1. Meeting, 2. Photo-show change, 2. Obama this Obama that 4. Lodging in Blair house, is that the change you promised NIGERIANS

Wake up 4 years is gradually coming to a close short 2 months already. the countdown to 2019 begins
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 11:11pm On Jul 21, 2015
barcanista:
lol na so we see am o
Hope very soon, they will have E-DSS, E-EFCC, E-Police. on nairaland

Since Obama did not appoint his secretary (Ministers) on time, hence nigeria must also break record in Africa.

I want to believe that they will soon come out to tell us that Boko Haram cannot be defeated, cause Obama had not been able to defeat terrosism in USA, IRAQ, Lbya, even his country KENYA
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:46pm On Jul 21, 2015
jayriginal:
Lolzzz


Would you like to be the kettle or the pot?
I though you said Good night. Why commenting again now.

Let your yea be yea, nay nay. CHANGErians
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:43pm On Jul 21, 2015
barcanista:
Óga stop sÓunding like you Àre pained
@Barcanista, been on sideline watching the game in 3D, this people will not stop to amaze NIGERIANS.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:38pm On Jul 21, 2015
Rilwayne001:
You see Buhari 's government? It WILL succeed whether you like it or not. You can choose to be crying from now on till 2019; you can choose to commit suicide out of hatred of seeing him succeed, it won't Change anything. God is already on our side...And believe me friend, you can't go against his plan.

ENEMY OF PROGRESS undecided
You are part of people that will not let this Govt put her feet down to work. All this praise singing, goes nowhere, put no food on Nigerians table.
So because CHANGErian are in power now NIGERIANS should not voice out their want and need from the GOVERNMENT again.

CHANGErians BEWCAREFUL ooooooh. Igboro o rerin ooooooo. Let this Government start doing work now, NIGERIAN want the promised changes, not travelling CHANGES, MEDIA changes, Wicth-hunting changes, DSS harrasment changes. CNN changes, white house changes etc

But developmental changes, Economic changes, Infrastructural changes., positive changes
PoliticsRe: Wike Expresses Anger Over Report On Visits To CJN by engineerboat(m): 9:23pm On Jul 21, 2015
bashydemy:
Wike trying hard to bribe the CJN.
Abeg get your fact right.
PoliticsRe: Wike Expresses Anger Over Report On Visits To CJN by engineerboat(m): 9:22pm On Jul 21, 2015
philips70:
Has Truckpusher or Barcanista read this dog meat and akpeteshi joint gist? I don't take any of them serious anymore until the real thing happens.
What is in the Report to say, this is just HEAR-SAY, Junk Journalism.

Who is afraid of anybody. NOBODY

So you are part of those Rejoicing because of the latest witch-Hunting, CONTINUE.........

Where then is the adage "It is from inside you watch first before outside"
PoliticsRe: Wike Expresses Anger Over Report On Visits To CJN by engineerboat(m): 9:18pm On Jul 21, 2015
barcanista:
Not even a cabinet secretary
They will soon tell us Why they could not defeat Boko Haram Because "America has not been able to defeat Terrosim in Iraq, USA etc"
PoliticsRe: Bombing In Buhari's Home Town While D Dullard Is Away by engineerboat(m): 9:11pm On Jul 21, 2015
Mprepz:
Saw this coming!
*pishures or ahdntblivit*
Dont worry your picture is still DOING PRESS-UP
PoliticsRe: DSS Vs Dasuki: Court Process May Lead To ‘revelations’ On Boko Haram, APC, PDP by engineerboat(m): 1:45pm On Jul 21, 2015
flodiosc:
". . . after I helped them to power". Dasuki was among the thousands who betrayed GEJ.
Please try and read to understand, He allowed them to get to power, If he had use his power to arrest all opposition and labelled them terrosit did you think APC will be n power today.
PoliticsRe: Unconfirmed: Former Cso To President Jonathan,dies In Sss Custody by engineerboat(m): 8:11am On Jul 21, 2015
saintol:
Gobe koh gobe ni !!! he embarked on hunger strike by himself ,as such, he refused to take his medication. So whose fault? abi na only him dem go first detain! He doesn't value his life simple, if he does, he would eat. and take his medication. For me, he has only used ' iku ya ju esin lo' strategy.
PoliticsRe: Unconfirmed: Former Cso To President Jonathan,dies In Sss Custody by engineerboat(m): 8:10am On Jul 21, 2015
saintol:
Gobe koh gobe ni !!! he embarked on hunger strike by himself ,as such, he refused to take his medication. So whose fault? abi na only him dem go first detain! He doesn't value his life simple, if he does, he would eat. and take his medication. For me, he has only used ' iku ya ju esin lo' strategy.
You need to go back to Primary Six to learn how to read comprehension very well with understanding.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's Article: His Misinformation, The Facts And His Records by engineerboat(m): 10:25pm On Jul 20, 2015
joseph1832:
Oh so Yar'Adua named his cabinet 2 months after being sworn in, that's nice, so you guys know this barcanista I wonder why you've been ranting that PMB should name his own cabinet?.

Given that those who even named their cabinet within days/weeks after being sworn into office were the most corrupt civilian presidents ever!. Yar'Adua who delayed his appointment fared so well only that his life was cut short.

PMB should take his time appointment his cabinet, after all "what is worth doing, is worth doing well". GEJ and OBJ who wasted no time in appointing their cabinet were the personification of corruption. Even GEJ made OBJ look like a small boy in terms of corruption.

"Delay is not denial".
Yaradua is now the refence point abi, is that the Change you promised us. Looking for how to break Yaradua records

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