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dabossman:
Oh lawd! The Nairaland politics section has gone to the dogs. Rabid, lunatic dogs.

which one describe you a dog, a rabid, a lunatic dog

Kazrem:
A drained brain is not difficult to be identified. It always finds faults in everything. But to your question, among other things that he achieved was having a session with the investors and sharing the business prospects in the country. So next time use your brain to follow happenings and not your ass.

Investor you say, when no Nigerian investors was allow into the meeting ecpet clara oshiomole because she is a foreigner abi. Who will the investor patnerss with in nigeria.

barcanista:
Every patriotic Nigerian will admit that the President Journey to the USA was more of a National embarrassment and a complete flop. He had nothing concrete to discuss with Obama. Instead of keeping quiet, he mis-called his party name "All Nigeria People's Congress (ANPC)". He couldn't secure Obama's commitment in our fight against terrorism nor even discussed policy issues, and give proposal to Obama on how they can help him achieve success in his policies (perhaps he has no policy). He had nothing absolutely to say.

Wonder why Obama left him to Secretary of State John Kerry and travelled to Kenya? Because he realised that the man he invited is a complete joke. Obama means business

May God Help Us

I guess from Obama mind, how will a President be holding meeting with foreign business partners , neglecting (disallowing Nigerian Business Men) to come to that meeting, even those that Gate crashed where rebuked, While A foreigner (Clara Oshiomole was allowed: Is she a business woman) time will tell. Obama will just say I get important thing to attend to than this.

barcanista:
Every patriotic Nigerian will admit that the President Journey to the USA was more of a National embarrassment and a complete flop. He had nothing concrete to discuss with Obama. Instead of keeping quiet, he mis-called his party name "All Nigeria People's Congress (ANPC)". He couldn't secure Obama's commitment in our fight against terrorism nor even discussed policy issues, and give proposal to Obama on how they can help him achieve success in his policies (perhaps he has no policy). He had nothing absolutely to say.

Wonder why Obama left him to Secretary of State John Kerry and travelled to Kenya? Because he realised that the man he invited is a complete joke. Obama means business

May God Help Us

While will Obama discuss that with people that have double tongue, no clear plan for economic development of Nigeria. Money are stoled, Hpw, where, when, by who, through who.

They think Obama will fall for their PROPAGANDA.

Obama is a wise Man.

Themaingate:
@op the money stolen during the tenure of jonathan far far exceed what have being stolen since independent put together.

Jonathan and all ministers need to be probe bro sorry

Assumption as usual, where are your facts data. We want facts and figurres not Propaganga to win oublic sympathy which will not . Remember election is over

rman:
Unfortunately his mission is so selfish only fools can not see through how deceptive the guy is.

Majority in this clime only approach issues from ethnic or religious angle and that explains why politicians will continue to under perform but have ready made people affected by the consequences of their bad decisions come online to defend them. That is why people like OP will continue to have massive following on nairaland. The only achievement some people have in life is where they come from, something they have nothing to do about.

The best way to massage a mans ego is make him/her feel he is special because of ethnic, religious, or sometimes political affiliation. The OP understands this perfectly. Every time I read posts on this forum, I can infer with a few posts and trends those that are miserable in real life but they do not know it.

Seun has hit jackpot with nairanland, it is the perfect site for low lifers to feel important and they are many in Nigeria.

Itunmo "Meaning"

ZuzuMan:
...........People disregard Burukunista and.......

Oro re ko ta rara ati rara ni,

is this the best you can say,
From your mind are the following (Obasanjo, Atiku, Tinubu, Amechi, IBB, et.al) not part of those who squandered how money in Nigeria.
But because they sponsor PMB election they belong to the "far past" which he said will be destructive to his Govt.
No be this Nigeria we dey, we are watching let the probe start. I dey laf oooooh

yahmohy27:
God bless us my brother ,it seems that guy lacks work or he is seeking favored from the past govt

Nobody is against probing GEJ govt, but for saying probing "Far Past" (Yaradua, Obasanjo, Abdusalam, IBB et.al) will be destructive for His govt is the issue, We are 100% solidly behind probing fine. That statement must be clarify. So you can do better than this.

barcanista:
You posted this before, I ignored you because you can't hold discuss. Now you still come here with that. Didn't Buhari also said he won't contest 2015? I know you don't know this but get this into your head...

“This campaign is the third and last one for me since after it I will not present myself again for election into the office of the president,” (Buhari, April 14, 2011)
www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/contradictions-muhammadu-buhari-2/
www..com/talk/topic,64864.0.html

people will defend them blindly now,
People who cannot stand on their words and promise, i takes from come from this Govt as having part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 with different stories and false colouration.
That is why i challenge them, let them continue digging and digging and digging for their acclaimed INCRIMINATING evidence against Ex-Ministers and Govt (I dey laf ooooh)

barcanista:
Cc:
Aprokoman, Whynotthetruth, Dearpreye, Firefire, Francizy, Biafranqueen, Mogidi, Mizmycoli, IsraeliAirforce, Candirain, Rose2014, Provacateur, Opiaoku, NDPVF, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi and all patriots

One step two wrong Govt, to worsen the whole issue, all they shout is jonathan this jonathan dat.
No plan on how to rule this country.
All the theif moving around with Him are now saints. We are watching, Olorun lo ma dajo afeyinperan.

barcanista:
If that is how you APC e-thugs interpret the comment then I allow you to your folly. I understand that some of you (APC e-Thugs) have been looking for ways to get at me but shamefully, you decided on this. I believe the comment is very clear for any rational mind.

@Comrade Barcanista abeg leave this people alone, see as them rush here to comment on false. They their lies have been busted for real, now result to personal attack.

CHANGErians giving us Blair house report. Haaaaahahaahhahaa, now they realise why GEJ ignore USA.

vedaxcool:


In an increasing show of disenchantment with checkered regime of Jonathan, leader of wailers association and taniods on nairaland, oga barcanista labelled Jonathan and most southern leaders foolish for appointing a northerner of dasuki brand as NSA. The show of shame to his master came on the heels of the revelations by a Dasuki blogger that the ex NSA beged yada yada yada . this not only pained the chief of wailers but revealed the extreme cluelessness of the Jonathan regime. This recent outburst once again support the narrative that Jonathan regime was an unmitigated disaster for Nigeria.


https://www.nairaland.com/2471345/begged-tinubu-akande-make-buhari/1

Is this the report of PMB rest visist to Blair House,
typical CHANGErians with their lies and propanganda, you discover that your Falso comparism with Obama nomination is fake, Wind don blow, we don see fowl yanch.

Now resulting to personal attack on @Barcanista, i pity for CHANGErians NIGERIANS are tire of you fake change

Tallesty1:
"What kind of this is this"?

Read am again now, what did you get from it. Facts and fallacy are never the same. Truth and falsehood are not the same

dekdek:
There lies ur problem.........................Not once did Baba compare nominations. Ur foundation is faulty.

Here it is again for your comsumption.

“When cabinet ministers are appointed in September, it will be some months after I took the oath of office. It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim” President Buhari said..

Please read again and summarize what is going on here for me. If not comparison.

[quote author=dekdek post=36179589][/quote]Stop calling Dog Monkey for us abeg.

The two are totally different no reason or basis for comparison at all.

dekdek:
The conditions and requirements for both countries are different but the end points is the same which is...............
For months after each of the Presidents Inauguration, Both President dont/wont have the pleasure of having their full Cabinet.
That is what Buhari stated. It happended for Obama and will surely happened for Buhari so whats ur point again please?

How point is. Before PMB can compare his nomination to Obama, then He must make his key Cambinet members nomination like Obama. Period, then comparison can work, aside that its a false comparison

dekdek:
This is not the point and this has no bearing to what the General said. Already he has given his reasons why he is yet to appoint them and it makes perfect sense.

..... insisting that Nigeria must put new rules of conduct and good governance in place before making key appointments......

Go slow indeed.

You people are not helping Baba at all.

dekdek:
How does majority equal FULL as stated by the General? The point here is u guys are trying to disprove what Guhari said and that is simply not flying. Its a fact that the FULL Cabinet wasnt just in place as stated by the General. Second link is inconsequential report since the first link has more validity (website of the US Senate itself)

Haaaaaaaahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha, you will not stop to amaze me.

Obama nomination started months before his inauguration, sent for senate approval before his inauguration, majority of the cabinet were approved by January 20 2009.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

Back to Baba Nomination (Zero), SENT for Senate Approval (ZERO). then why comparing the two together, there is no basis for comparison Man.

dekdek:
This is not the point and this has no bearing to what the General said. Already he has given his reasons why he is yet to appoint them and it makes perfect sense.

..... insisting that Nigeria must put new rules of conduct and good governance in place before making key appointments......

Then there is need comparing His nomination and Appointment with Obama Nomination and Appointment. Because He is making us to believe that He is taking a principle from Obama mode of nomination and appointment

dekdek:
The colored is the key word from Buharis speech. Check ur link very well, there are several columns. He may have nominated early his co workers but they were never confirmed early. Infact before confirmation, hearings av to be done by the American Senate which happended far after when Obama nominated. They didnt start work till the senate completed her task. That is the main point of the General. Obama didnt have his full cabinet ready for several months.
Buhari is right on point.

Did you take time to go thru the second link, Majority of the Cabinet were approved by the Senate on January 20 2009. the day Obama was Officially inaugurated, how does dat compare to MONTHS after.

Dollar101:
Oga Goodmorning, The thread was not about NOMINATIONS, when nominated candidates was sent to the senate it took several months for verification, there is a huge difference between NOMINATE and APPOINTED, please take note of the context.

That is what we are still saying, Obama nominate His cabinet December 2008, He was inaugurated January 20 2009. On that Same day large percentage of His Cabinet have been approved by the senate. which means By January 21 2009, Obama Administration start with His Secretaries running the Government.
The Question is did Obama wait for 4 months before making Nomination.
Now why comparing yours with Obama, when PMB had not even send any nomination to the senate for approval bearing in minds the time tis take for Senate Approval.

dekdek:
Kindly qoute The General correctly and disprove what he said and not what u think APC said or what u think they may have meant.

From his word,

“When cabinet ministers are appointed in September, it will be some months after I took the oath of office. It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim” President Buhari said.

READ MORE: http://www.diamondreport.com.ng/2015/07/fact-check-buhari-lied-about-obamas.html?utm_source=copyright-attrib
Copyright © Diamond Report.

But Obama had His major cabinet members are constituted January 2009.

Barack Obama's Cabinet, as of January 2009, is proposed to comprise:

– President Barack Obama Inaugurated January 20, 2009
– Hillary Rodham Clinton assumed the office of Secretary of State on January 21, 2009
– On January 26, 2009, the U.S. Senate confirmed Geithner’s appointment as Secretary of the Treasury – On December 1, 2008,
President-elect Obama announced that Robert Gates would remain in his position as Secretary of Defense during his administration – On December 1, 2008,
Obama announced that Eric Holder would be his nominee for Attorney General. Holder was formally nominated on January 20, 2009 –
Ken Salazar assumed the office of Secretary of the Interior on January 21, 2009 after a unanimous voice vote on the floor of the full Senate
– Tom Vilsack assumed the office of Secretary of Agriculture on January 21, 2009 – Hilda Solis assumed office as Secretary of Labor on February 24, 2009
– Shaun Donovan was confirmed as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development on January 27, 2009.
– Arne Duncan was confirmed as Secretary of Education on January 21, 2009.
– Eric Shinseki assumed the office of Secretary of Veterans Affairs on January 20, 2009
– Janet Napolitano assumed the office of Secretary of Homeland Security on January 21, 2009.
– Steven Chu was unanimously confirmed as Secretary of Defense by the U.S. Senate on January 20, 2009.
– Former Republican Congressman Ray LaHood was confirmed as Secretary of Transportation on January 23, 2009

The check also revealed that 1 of the 13 appointments, Robert Gates, was “confirmed technically in December 2008” before Obama was inaugurated. “The remaining 2 of the 15 … Gary Locke Secretary of Commerce (confirmed February 23 2009) and Kathleen Sebelius Secretary of Health and Human Resources (confirmed April 28, 2009) were nominated later than one week”



http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

Did you get that

dustmalik:
The emphasis here is on the word 'FULL', which was the exact word Buhari used. The saTANist AKA Wailing Wailers don't have an argument here, as far as any right-thinking person is concerned. In Barcanista's eagerness to criticize Buhari, he failed to comprehend.

since you are concern about the word full, Obama had about 85% cabinet at Immedeattely after inauguration. Which include Secretary of State,

Now to Baba, where is our Secretary to the Government of the Federation, (SGF), Chief of Staff to the president, Minister of defence (We are in war with BH), e.t.c to start with,

musiwax:
As expected, the chief culprit goofed again in his rebuttal thread. While he should be applauded for his effeminate attempt at objectivity, we remain resolute in getting rid of the smoke screen.

In this link https://www.nairaland.com/2469370/buhari-article-obamas-cabinet-2, he tried to analyse each position without proper recourse to objectivity and context. I will go on with showing him where he's wrong in his analysis.


Before we continue in this journey of enlightenment, here's an excerpt of an article that confirms my earlier position about Obama's first term.

All presidential administrations have vacancies. But an analysis of appointments data by ProPublica shows that President Obama hasn’t kept up with his predecessors in filling them. A greater share of presidentially appointed positions that require Senate confirmation were sitting vacant at the end of Obama’s first term than at the end of Bill Clinton’s or George W. Bush’s first terms.

At least 68 of the positions remain vacant, including 43 that have been vacant for more than a year.

Acting heads of agencies “don’t make any big decisions,” said Cal Mackenzie, a professor of government at Colby College who has studied appointments since the 1970s. “Your authority is not going to be recognized in the same way a Senate-confirmed appointee is going to be recognized.”

Overall, more than 13 percent of presidentially appointed positions hadn’t been filled at the end of Obama’s first term, compared with around 10 percent for Bush and 11 percent for Clinton. While the uptick compared with the Bush administration may sound small, it translates into dozens more vacant positions.

Source: http://www.propublica.org/article/under-obama-more-appointments-go-unfilled

**Please note the importance of senate confirmation, irrespective of the time of nomination.


Another article states:
102 Days Into Term, Obama Fills Out His Cabinet
For a president who had months to plan a smooth transition into a second term, Barack Obama has been in no great hurry to fill gaps in his Cabinet. After more than 100 days in office, he finally tidied up that task on Thursday -- and then admonished the Senate to confirm his newest nominees “without delay.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/03/102_days_into_term_obama_fills_out_his_cabinet_118244.html


A: The fact remains that the Commerce secretary position was vacant till confirmation in March.
For a period of 3 months irrespective of the nomination, the position is vacant until confirmation. In Buhari's case, permanent secretaries are playing this role, the fact that the Ministers are not in place doesn't mean that the ministries would stop working.

That was the first term, now in the second Term lets look at the commerce secretary position again:

COMMERCE - VACANT

Secretary John Bryson resigned in June for health reasons. Rebecca Blank, an economist, has been acting secretary since then.
Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/02/us-usa-cabinet-factbox-idUSBRE91100720130202


A: While its unfortunate that the nominee Mr Daschle withdrew his nomination, the fact remains that the position remained vacant for a period of 5 months, which further buttresses my earlier position on the subject.


A: It is very relevant to the subject because, despite having enough time to nominate his cabinet a second time, Obama being a responsible leader recognises the importance of meticulous planning before making appointments. Therefore, second term nominees remain valid to this debate.


A: Okay, you haven't shown us how the position of the secretary of Labour was filled immediately after Obama's inauguration. Thanks for confirming my position with links to buttress my points.


A: Okay champ, if you want to make a statement of fact, you need to be fair by telling us the whole context of Ray's stepping down. Since you ommitted it, I will Oblige you by stating the true picture of the turn of events.

WASHINGTON—Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood announced his resignation from the Obama Administration earlier this morning following his alleged involvement in the recent disappearance of U.S. Route 13. “Given his ongoing role in the investigation regarding last week’s sudden disappearance of this road, Mr. LaHood believes it is best that he step down from his position as Transport Secretary,” said LaHood’s spokesperson Jeffrey Graves, speaking to reporters after newly released photos showed the 67-year-old government official with the road just hours prior to when morning rush hour commuters discovered it was missing. “We also want to assure the public that Mr. LaHood is fully cooperating with investigators and has agreed to do whatever he can to ensure the return of this beautiful country road.”
Source: http://www.theonion.com/article/ray-lahood-resigns-following-mysterious-disappeara-31065

The article shows that Ray had to step down because of the controversy surrounding his term, during which period he cannot function in his capacity has the Secretary of Transportation because of his scandal.

Thanks for reading.

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Please take some time out and re-read you post once again, you will discover that what People are saying is that, in Obama first term He had made some larger percentage nomination of his ministries, submitted them for approval to the Senate, it now depend on when the Senate approve them. RIGHT
But for APC to tell us that obama fill up his cabinets months after inauguration, its totally false.

For now no major NOMINATIONS have been made to the senate for approval,

Going by your assumption "diference between nomination and senate approval", if by now no nomination has been sent to the SENATE for approval, then sent nomination to senate for approval by SEPTEMBER, then we should be waiting till 2016 to have a single minister approved by the senate. We are waiting and watching.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

handsomeyitayo:
neva mind make barcanista dey yan opata..him dey waste him time..instead of him doin reasonable things na rubbish be dis

then why is this Gvt basing their non appointment falsely on Obama first term in office, so you want Nigerians to swallow you fake CHANGE hook, it will not work

bayulll01:
Lol eleyi ti ya werey oooo,you need serious attentions else your case will be worst than barcanista himself that is suffering from stupiiidity,so got fan here u ve been stalking me abi,me I don't know you ooo

Nipa oro enu won, ni a o fi mo won, CHANJI indeed, while will CHANGErian want to force PROPANGADA on NIGERIANS, for Gods sake the last time i check, ELECTION is over. Why using false claim on Obama administration appointment, we are in a global world for Gods sake, you cannot hide facts and truth. All this govt is doing is accuse accuse accuse with now facts just to gain public sympathy, CHANGErians this will not work NIGERIANS are now wise

GangsterRevd:
You seem unemployed? Just curious.

so for saying the truth now translate to joblessness. But for Propaganda and lies nko. CHANGErians pls wake up this is NIGERIA, Stop Propaganda and lies, NIGRIAN tired of your Photo-show, get down to work. The day is going the sun is gradualling setting for this govt

bash4us:
Any guru in the house?

Please solve

Step 1. (11 -5) + (13-1) + (15-3) = 6 + 12 + 12 = 30

Step 2. All in base 9 (13) + (15) + (1) = 30

aresa:
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Sadly, biafran village clowns, bigots and trolls like you bore me...

So ri iwo omo hi, enikeni it o ba it so onto baying ni omo Igbo BIAFRAN abi.
Why lying now,

Obama nominate his secretaries (ministers December 2008) they we're confirm on the day of Obama inauguration Jan 20 2009.

What did you say about that, is there any different from what @BARCANISTA is trying to clarify, why calling people BIAFRAN clown. Omoluwabi o kin PARO OOOOOOOOOO. Omo ODUDUWA daaaada Idi otito ni ti Ma nri won, sho ti gbo beyen.
CHANGErians enough is enough of lying sand PROPAGANDA


Ormolu w

aresa:
That still didn't prevent Jona from administering the most corrupt, lazy and incompetent government on the surface of the earth.

Jona announced his cabinet 6 weeks after assuming office, longer than PMB, but of course, his hypocritical TaNoids and minions were not wailing like wailers all over the place.

Sadly for them, election is over and PMB is the president and Jona is not coming back.

Why are you people spurring out lies and propaganda that OBama nominate it's minister months after swearing in.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

BannedOtherView:
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Crapola! Asbsolute nonsense!!!
The operative word is "Full", Mr Hired Hack.



Now it would amount to a leap of faith to expect that level of discernment from your band of jaded co-travellers. I also know that as the biased NL authorities have silenced a number of people who can take you to the cleaners, you are enjoying this period of tomfoolery in the limelight.
Make the best of it while the going is good! Yeah, quote as many unqualified Wikipedia sources - as you are wont to do. It won't last forever, I tell you.

The White House - Nominations & Appointments (New) (Sorted by Date) -- https://open.whitehouse.gov/dataset/The-White-House-Nominations-Appointments-New-/nmc8-q2uj

Mr Man are we talking about Ambasadors.

Get your facts right Man. @BARCANISTA Is talking about secretary (equivalent of nigeria ministers) you are talking another thing.

For your understanding read this
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Obama_cabinet.htm

aresa:
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How idiotic of you to demand change when in fact you did not vote for change and still don't want to change? What change are you talking about?

Worry about your loser worries and silly preoccupations and let Nigerians who voted for change worry about change.

A typical CHANGErian "Abuse is their Motto, and CHANGE promised to NIGERIANS"