₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
You forget that Atiku and Obi are challenging the outcome of the elections on multiple grounds

you also forget that the judges are not father Christmas! You have to state clearly how you won and the consequence of your winning. So far, the LP and PDP didn't do that. Their argument is that INEC didn't do proper collation. Therefore, they would have done theirs based on their copy of form EC8A, stating the outcome. All they would have to do in court now would be to prove that their copy of EC8A is actually authentic from INEC.

illuminutty:
These are the issues.

from these your issues, it is only number 6 that's weighty, and you have to prove beyoend reasonable doubt. The others are what we call washee! They will be thrown out by the courts

taylor89:
Dont give a personal business credit to useless government

If Government was handling Dangote business he would have gone bankrupt


Buhari is a joke


Tinubu is an impending disaster

yeah! But you can give credit to Obi taking a stake in the opening of a beer parlour

maestroferddi:
Are you thinking at all?

There is an electoral act and election results conducted that day were transmitted...

Just that Mahmoud criminally refused to allow the transmission of the results of the presidential results...

In an objective and fair adjudication, Tinubu and INEC are toast...

Oga, you are the one not thinking! Not even a bit! The electoral act does not say results SHALL be transmitted electronically! What it says is that results shall be manually counted, manually collated, and the EC8A is the form in which it is recorded. EC8A is the original! Any other document is a duplication of EC8A.

MondayOsunbor:
my brother ask them

Man proposes, God disposes! You can plan for years but on that day, things may not go as planned. That doesn't mean we will no forge ahead. The country must move on so long as the situation doesn't affect the conduct of the election substantially. Electronic transmission has nothing to do with the election. Without it elections can still be conducted credibly.

overall90:
You are calling him mumu when you are infact the mumu.
From the write up, can you point out where the court said results does not have to be transmitted electronically.

what supreme court is saying is that the original is better than the duplicate. EC8A is the original while whatever is in IREV is a duplicate. More emphasis is on EC8A than BVAS because it is the original where other results or duplicates are gotten from. Therefore, electronic transmission is rubbish so long as you can provide EC8A. Bookmark this post

maestroferddi:
Let's see how Mahmoud would confute several video evidences of him stating empathically that he would transmit results electronically...

We are waiting to see how the tribunal and the defence will undermine this fundamental evidence...

The moment the intention to deceive and subvert has been proved beyond reasonable doubt, no judge will rule otherwise...

someone can say he/she will bring heaven to earth but if he/she doesn't do it and there's no law to back what he/she said plus there are no consequence to it, then you can't do anything. Where there are no laws, there are no offense.

iSense247:
Interpretation in the absence of ambiguity for statement that is written in layman language. You want to use quadratic formula to solve circumference of a circle. This is like intentionally making simple thing complex.

there's no quadratic equation here. The constitution says FCT should be seen as a state. If FCT is a state, then your almighty "AND" which you've been brandishing all over the forum become useless. It means the and is just separating two different items that may be interpreted as the same.

MatrixCircle:
your Principal is already a vegetable in the making. That incurable disease he is struggling with is not a joke. He is trying to stay fit but medical science in EU can't do much. It's just the dialysis and amino acid infusion they can give him.
Didn't you see the fat jaws he came back with ?? That's not healthy. The is what the call incoming "multiple organ failure" The liver is packing, kidney is packing, lewy bodies , amyloid and tau proteins done full his brains.
He is struggling do stay fit. As he has traveled, he will return few days to 29 May.
Then dissapear again after 2weeks.
Watch

vegetable or Maggi, he will be your president for the next four years God willing. Nothing you can do about the Maggi being your president

DMerciful:
He never won any election. INEC rigged him in after being bribed but the court will remove him. God will remove him

Hmmm! Calling the name of God in the affairs of men! Well, all I can say is that you are a bad looser. Tinubu won fair and square. Nothing like rigging. In actual fact, it was LO and PDP that rigged

iSense247:
Are you saying what is written in the constitution is not what it means? You are deliberately complicating it so as to confuse yourself to soothe your mind. That portion of the constitution is simple, clear and easy to understand even to a primary school drop out. Whenever and is used to join two words or clauses together, it shows the two words or clauses are distinctingly concerned. If I tell you to give me 50% of your incomes and gifts. Would you give me only 50% of your incomes only without adding that of your gifts?

Oga, the constitution says "for the purpose of interpretation, the FCT should be seen as a state" , that is, the girls should be seen as boys. That means if you say there are 16 boys in the class, you are correct, but everyone has to be identified properly hence the 14 boys and 2 girls

DMerciful:
Tinubu is a scam!

are we on campaign again. He was in a sickbed (as you guys claimed) but won the election. Now after win, Una still dey campaign! Una no dey tire

iSense247:
At the bolded, if I ask you to call for me 50% of the boys and girls, would you call for me only 7 boys without calling any girl?

the constitution is not 2+2=4. It's like a Bible, you don't read it literally. There's a caveat that says for the interpretation of the constitution, the FCT should be seen as a state. Now if you look at it from that angle, it's like saying (to your question) " call for me 50% of the students, ie boys and girls or boys or girls so long as 50% of students is represented

iSense247:
I never understood the much difference between the use of two important conjunctions i.e. AND & OR until I reflected on what I have been teaching my students in Logic, Probability and Concord classes. Today I want to use my knowledge of Logic to prove that it is mandatory for a presidential candidate to win one-quarter of votes in FCT before he/she could be declared winner. So as to make my explanation short, simple and straightforward, I would be using Probability and Concord for further explanation at a later time.

Firstly, what does the constitution says:
There are two (2) conditions for determining a winner of a presidential election:

1. A presidential candidate must secure the highest number of votes cast at the election

2. He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT.

The main cause of argument is at the bolded (and).

In Logical Reasoning, AND & OR are not synonymous. These two words have distinct meaning. While AND is a CONJUNCTION, OR is a DISJUNCTION.

In set notation the intersection of two substatements represent the conjunction of every statement. A conjunction is true only if both of the substatements are true.

True + True = True
True + False = False
False +True = False
False + False = False

Also, in set notation the union of two substatements represent the disnjunction of every substatement. A disnjunction is true if either of its substatements is true or if they are both true (it is only false if they are both false.

True + True = True
True + False = True
False + True = True
False + False = False

My thought

The second electoral criteria above consists of two substatements separated by "and." For the whole statement to be true (fulfilled), the two substatements must be fulfilled.

I think those who drafted the constitution intended to use OR but mistakenly use AND out of ignorance. Their motive was to use OR instead of AND after all the people living in Abuja are not more special than the people living in other parts of the country. So the only condition by which Tinubu can win this argument in court is if the supreme court judges decide to help him out by looking at "technicalities'' instead of what Nigeria Constitution actually says.

In conclusion, to be declared Presidential winner, a candidate must secure at least 1/4th (25%) of votes cast in 2/3rd of the entire 36 States of Nigeria (that is in 24 states). Also, the candidate must also secure not less than 25% of the votes cast at the FCT.

Oga! FCT is not a state that's why the "and" is use. You cannot group two different things together. When you want to state a total of two different items you use and. For example number of students in a class is 14 boys and 2 girls. That is why the and is used. Aggregation of the states and FCT.

The irony of this is that non of the placard said the won the election with so so and so number of votes. Backend wayorist!

franchasofficia:
So you haven't even been following the shocking exposures?


Obi got over 25% of total real votes cast in:


Adamawa
Borno
Bauchi
Ekiti
Oyo
Ondo
Sokoto
Kaduna


He won the below states with wide margin, wider than what INEC announced:


Lagos
Imo
Ebonyi
Bayelsa
Rivers
Cross River
Plateau
Benue
Akwa Ibom



Please bro, politics aside, Peter Obi won 2023 presidential election clean and clear. INEC and APC controlled federal bodies worked together to rob him.



Do not support evil so God and nature don't give you a dose of it someday in your life for you to feel how painful it is.



Peter Obi was robbed, reason INEC intentionally blocked the uploading of real polling unit election results for Presidential election on realtime from polling units but allowed Senate and Reps to go through.



I don't believe the same ruling party that controlled INEC to announce the winner they want would allow Judiciary to give a just verdict anyway. So I don't expect the tribunal to annul the declaration of Tinubu at all, but even as Tinubu has been selected, let us not attract negative curses upon ourselves by arrogantly saying Tinubu won when we all know he didn't. INEC intentionally pushed Obi to 3rd to discourage him and his supporters from seeking for redress in court

it would be better if they can show proof of this in court

Ofunaofu:
In Imo State, a fourth place holder was declared winner and to the beneficiary, Hope uzodimma and his party the APC, it was justice served

go and read the judgement on this your fourth place holder. Uzodinma won the election when you add the results unilaterally cancelled by INEC. The judgement was that INEC has not powers to cancel any result once announced at the polling unit.

Achobaisiochu:
Why do you talk what you don't know, there are many polling units in Nigeria that are inside either military or police barrack.
What of police barrack polling unit in Lagos?
So you mean police men or military men don't have voters card? If they do, they're eligible to vote except you are on duty that very day.

if a military, police or whatever doesn't have rights to his movements, how will he/she vote. You registered in polling unit A, then on election Day, you're posted to man polling unit Z, how will you vote? If you can disenfranchise one person this way, then a commanding officer with interest can be selective and disenfranchise a group. You can see why the forces are not allowed to vote!

Oddfinder012:
Will The corked bottle be chained to the water bed?
Wetin concern achemedies or law of flotation to the question being asked?

your hands are the chains oga! Try dey reason small. Bouyancy keeps the object up.

9182736455O1999:
You can as well elaborate on how juxtaposing the other guy's reply with the photo will answer the question. just assume as you have said that i and the op got no iota of science knowledge.

Oga, just try to hold a corked empty bottle under water, you'll get your answer

iHateFraudsters:
Tony stark illiterate

yeah! Watch and see. Maybe you will learn a lot from this. All those your awuranwu you are bringing is a waste of time and energy. Nigeria is a sovereign state with laws. The NPF is vested with the power to investigate all offences in Nigeria! Your FBI, CIA, PDI, LP and gbogbotigbo are not recognized by the constitution of Nigeria. Therefore they cannot tender any document in the law court. They have to go through the NPF. Likewise your stupid lawyers, they have to go through Nigerian lawyers that are very susceptible to bribery and corruption.

raskymonojendor:
Lol. RINO the table shaker. The North no dey brag for real. Meanwhile, we know how e dey go for some regions

The ones that scaled through the cheating scored the highest marks! Indeed! 10,000 caught in a single state

iHateFraudsters:
And your illiteracy didn't tell you that the lawyers can hire Nigerian lawyers to represent them?

Tony Stark illiterate

you are the Mumu here! if the lawyers can hire Nigerian lawyers, then why are you saying foreign lawyers will represent your looser? Like I said, wherever you or your geng are bringing anyone from, they will never stand up in court to speak! They will just be spectators like me and you.

iHateFraudsters:
I hope he's aware that US was called to give an account of Tinubus drug escapade?

They will definitely send their lawyers.

And this is why Keyamo is saying you guys are illiterates. If you have not gone through the Nigerian law school, you cannot present yourself as a lawyer in any Nigerian court. Simple as ABC

dominique:
But the boy was not kidnapped or coerced to donate his kidney, he offered to. He was the one willing to sell his kidney to highest bidder so why make him a victim? Ekweremadu is a corrupt politician that deserves to be flung in jail for stealing but that boy is no victim! He agreed to it, he's not underaged neither is he mentally unfit to decide on his own. I hope the UK authorities deports his snaky ass.

This is a case of your word against mine. The boy claimed he was deceived. That the first time he knew anything about organ transplant was when the doctor asked him. If the Ekweremadu's had placed an advert for a donor with terms and conditions applied, they would not have been in this predicament. The advert alone would have rubbished the boy's accusations.

post=122953909:
Anambra is not relenting still pushing to remain on top

New class room blocks just completed in the state

Jesus! Is this news! What this means is that there's a dreath of project in Anambra state.

tonywonder:
The Presidential Electoral Tribunal accepted this video evidence from Labour Party as part of exhibit to prove INEC wrong & prove their case against APC & the president elect.

Watch this video & drop your comment. INEC Chairman confirmed severally on camera that using BVAS for accreditation, real-time uploading into IREV is part of LEGAL requirements for conducting transparent elections in Nigeria thereby, establishing the definition, meaning, intent and interpretation of INEC as regards Electoral Act 2022 on "Electronical transmission of result".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGTyVY2Gik

The Koko is in this vague statement; NON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE. how does what's in the video affect the election substantially? It doesn't.

SpecialAdviser:
You are the one talking trash and obviously need help. Below is the argument that started the whole gist.

Truly many are abnormal

you mentioned Uzodinma, is that not what I responded to? Your reply is suppose to be based on that, nothing else. Like I said earlier, Oga, face topic

SpecialAdviser:
Lol. So the law court does not have same power to cancel results INEC declared for 2023 presidential election? They play.

The only thing giving you guys unnecessary moral is that APC is the government and can manipulate justice. I no get una time. You know better than the people that files the case abi? Anyway, since you think there is no case, rest.

You're talking trash. Who is talking about 2023 elections? You made a statement about supreme court governor, I countered you, now you're shifting to 2023. Oga, stick to topic!

SpecialAdviser:
Uzodimma case nko?

Go and read the judgement. Uzodinma proved that he won the election in court. It is a fact that once results are declared, INEC does not have the power to cancel them. That was the case in Uzodinma versus INEC. Only a lwa court can cancel a result once declared.

Kanixt:
"I recently snooped in my wife’s phone and discovered dozens of texts to her co-workers and some of our mutual friends — all saying awful things about me and airing petty grievances from our personal life. Among the topics of the texts was my unemployment. I recently gave up my nearly 10-year successful career in real estate to move to a new city and state so our daughter can go to a better school. I haven’t figured out my next move yet, but I’ve been actively applying and interviewing for jobs. I’ve received multiple offers, but none have been the right fit. My wife’s texts portray me as a deadbeat loser, and she questions why she’s stayed with me, lamenting what a burden it has been for her. I’ll note that our mortgage and our mutual bills have been paid for the last six months from the proceeds of selling our house when we moved, so my unemployment has caused her zero financial burden. I can’t get past the things she said and the betrayal I feel, and I am considering asking for a separation. But I am scared to bring it up because of the invasion of her privacy that led to me discovering the text messages. What is the ethical path forward?"

so you left your better paying job just because you want your daughter to go to a better school in another state!