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Op , you lack spiritual knowledge. There is no decision that God takes that would amount to imperfections. The fact that God listened to the plea of Moses does not mean it was the best decision. God can bring out good from evil and what seems right in our own sight might not be right before God. God destroyed the world b4 during the time of Noah . If he had destroyed the Israelites and left Moses alone , maybe the Israelites would have been better people than what they are now. In addition , it was these people he pleaded for that provoked Moses and hindered him from entering the PROMISED LAND. |
knowledge4:THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION FROM A SOUND MIND. |
Abdulgaffar22:A slave cannot understand this because he is used to being in bondage , even after his released from slavery. That is your situation. You want to remain a slave when Jesus has already paid for your freedom on the cross. If a friend of yours is in debt and you decided to help him to pay or redeem the debt , are you a debtor ? No. Likewise , it is a sinner that is hanged on a tree that is accursed but Jesus was not a sinner . He became a cursed temporarily to remove curse from anyone who accepts his sacrifice. A rich man who pays for the debt of another does not become a debtor. For the purpose of accountability , he would be called the debtor and once that debt is paid , he will not be termed debtor. He has given freedom and blessing to the debtor. That is the meaning of the below : Galatians 3:13-14 KJV Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: [14] That the BLESSINGS of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. |
iamgenius:You are the one to learn from me ; You are a slave and I am your master . Secondly , if Muhammad was commanded to get understanding from the Christians , who are you to ask a christian to learn from you ? Allah SWT says: فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus: Verse 94) What Ashraf wrote to incite people against Muslims was not as bad as what Muhammad wrote against the Christians and the Jews , was it ? Was it Ashraf that told Muhammad to be killing the Jews and the Christians? Was he not guilty of the offense he accused Ashraf of? Why do we have the evils lime Boko Haram , Fulani herdsmen, ISIS , Hesbolah , Osama bin ladin etc ? Was it not the legacy Muhammad left behind ? Why would people want to defame Islam ? Are the historical and present atrocities of Islam not enough to defame it ? Islam is the devils religion. If you die as a Muslim , you will roast in hell for eternity. Go and pray to God to lead you in the right way. |
Yes . If you don't want to die the second and eternal death, you better believe the death of Jesus as your sacrifice. |
That is impossible , unless it is a faked healing. How can he do what Muhammad could not do? It a fake healing , period. |
pressplay411:AMEN. BUT THERE IS NO UNDERSTANDING AND REVELATIONS THAT GOD WOULD GIVE US THAT IS GOING TO CONTRADICT HIS WORDS. INFACT SOME OF THE REVELATIONS ARE TO CONFIRM THE ALREADY WRITTEN SCPRIPTURES WRITTEN FOR EVERYONE TO LEARN FROM. I MAY BE WRONG AND YOU MAY BE RIGHT , ALL THAT MATTERS IS TO GET TO HEAVEN. THANKS. |
pressplay411:OP, GOD THE FATHER IS A PERSONALITY . JESUS CHRIST , THE SON , IS ANOTHER PERSONALITY. HOLY SPIRIT IS ALSO , A DIFFETENT PERSONALITY THEY ARE UNITY AND WORKING TO THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD THE FATHER. JESUS CHRIST IS A GOD . A CHILD OF GOD IS GOD. JESUS IS OUR CREATOR . HE DID NOT CREAT US BECAUSE HE WANTED TO , BUT BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER WANTED TO . HIS FATHER TOLD HIM " LET US CREAT MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE " , AND THEY DID. WHATEVER JESUS DID OR IS DOING , HIS IS DOING TO SATISFY HIS FATHER'S WISHES AND COMMANDS . HOLY SPIRIT IS A PERSONALITY WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO WORK FOR GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE SON. HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT GOD, HE IS A HOLY SPIRIT. THE BIBLE DID NOT CALL THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD , BUT THE BIBLE CALLED JESUS , "GOD ALMIGHTY" , YET HE IS STILL LOWER THAN GOD THE FATHER. JESUS HIMSELF CONFIRMED THIS. THERE IS NO DIVISION , NO CONTENTION , NO PERSONAL OR DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES BETWEEN GOD THE FATHER AND HIS SON . JESUS CHRIST . THE SON IS IN TOTAL OBEDIENCE TO THE FATHER , WHO LOVES HIM AS HIMSELF . Revelation 3:21 KJV To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. |
sabigros:Pls , take your post to the Islamic section where your people can benefit from it. Thanks. |
budaatum:Moses made was not a Messiah during his time. He was a prophet sent to bring out the Israelites out of Egypt with laws and commandments to follow pending the coming of the Messiah. Moses knew this and he specifically spoke to the Israelites about this : The MAIN purpose of God sending His Prophets is not to save mankind from the troubles and problems of this world but to permanently save us from everlasting condemnation after death , which can only be by the sacrifice of a pure blood that did not inherit the curse God placed upon Adam and Eve. Moses was a temporary saviour , but Jesus is a permanent saviour. That was why Moses said it is that prophet they should listen to. Deuteronomy 18:15,18 KJV The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; UNTO HIM YE SHALL HEARKEN; [18] I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Isaiah 53:4-8 KJV Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. [5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. [6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. [7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. [8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. LASTLY , the date a past invent was written is not as important as the facts of the event . A false account of an incident or event that happened to taday and written down today will not validate it . Likewise a true account written 10 years or 100 years after its occurrence will not change it to a false. Before the advent of writings , history was passed down from generations to generations through oral communications for centuries and most of them were as accurate as written ones. Even as at today , the Israelites are still waiting for a Messiah despite the fact that they had Moses and other Prophets. They don't believe Jesus was a Messiah. That was why they asked John the Baptist , "are you the Christ". That means there is a diff btw a Prophet and a Messiah. I AM NOT TRYING TO TEACH YOU ANYTHING SINCE WE ARE ALL LEARNING FROM THIS FORUM AND WILL CONTINUE TILL WE DEPART FROM THIS WORLD. I PRAY THAT WE WILL NOT REGRET IN THE END , IN JESUS NAME. THANKS. |
Originakalokalo:That is true . God bless you , thanks. |
iamgenius:That is a question for you to answer or have you forgotten what you just posted? |
iamgenius:What is the difference? The man hurt Muhammad by betraying them and they had to deceived him to kill him. |
iamgenius:The hadith says because they hurt Allah and his apostle |
Chosen59:Thanks. I was a Muslim . I now know for sure the truth in Jesus . It was not by reading but by payers. These people need prayers. Islam is a very very stronghold . Coming out of it is the grace of God. God bless you for this thread. |
budaatum:There exists actual date as mentioned above and historically written. My calculation was based on my rough estimate which I did intentionally as a least gap between them. As per the topic of the thread and from your own reasoning that Jeremiah did not mentioned Micah and that should not be a yardstick . Jesus Christ was mentioned by Moses and other Prophets because he is a Messiah unlike other prophets. No prophet made mentioned of the coming of other Prophets. Right from the time of Moses , all the Prophets kept talking about the coming of the Messiah. All the prophets after Moses were only given for the guidance of the Israelites pending the coming of the Messiah. That was why the Pharisees asked in : John 1:20-25 KJV And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. [21] And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. [22] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? [23] He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. [24] And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. [25] And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? ALL THAT THE WORLD NEEDS IN TERMS OF HOLY BOOK , LAWS ,INSTRUCTIONS ,MODES OF WORSHIPING ETC WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO MOSES ONCE AND FOR ALL. BUT THAT COULD NOT SAVE EXCEPT THE BLOOD THAT HAS NO LINK WITH THAT OF THE CHILDREN OF ADAM IS SHED AS A SACRIFICE , TO REDEEM MAN BACK TO GOD. THIS CAME THROUGH DEATH OF JESUS ON THE CROSS. MEANING , THERE IS NO NEED FOR OTHER PROPHET OR PROPHETS TO GUIDE MANKIND. JESUS SAID "IT IS FINISHED". ANYTHING BESIDES JESUS IS A FAKE AND A LIE. |
43. Do not cooperate in sin and aggression (Q5:2) WAS MUHAMMAD NOT GUILTY OF THE ABOVE : Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369: Sahih Bukhari : Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka'b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka'b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Kab replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka'b said. "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka'b replied. "I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf." |
43. Do not cooperate in sin and aggression (Q5:2) |
RuthlessLeader:I didn't know . |
Aaronsrod:You are right but not everyone can be possessed by demons and evil spirits. A holy and Holy Spirit filled child of God cannot be possessed by the devils . The devils will not come near such a person to attack him talkless of possessing his holy temple. As you said , we need to pray always . Thanks |
Op, Islam is false , as you rightly said . HOW DO WE KNOW THE KABAAH WAS NOT BUILT BY ABRAHAM ? This is the answer : Volume 4, Book 55, Number 585: Sahih Bukhari : Narrated Abu Dhar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?" He said, "Al-Masjid-ul-,Haram (in Mecca)." I said, "Which was built next?" He replied "The mosque of Al-Aqsa ( in Jerusalem) ." I said, "What was the period of construction between the two?" He said, "Forty years." He added, "Wherever (you may be, and) the prayer time becomes due, perform the prayer there, for the best thing is to do so (i.e. to offer the prayers in time)." FROM THE ABOVE , THE KABAAH WAS BUILT 40 YEARS B4 THE SYNAGOGUE BUILT BY SOLOMON . WHAT WAS THE YEARS BETWEEN ABRAHAM ANS SOLOMON , ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE ? Matthew 1:1-7 KJV The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. [2] Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; [3] And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; [4] And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; [5] And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; [6] And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; [7] And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; List : Abraham,Isaac, Jacob, Judas,Phares,Esrom,Aram,Aminadab,Naasson,Salmon,Booz,Obed of Ruth,Jesse,David the king and Solomon. ( 14 Generations ) If we take 50 years between each generations, this will amount to 700 years gap between when Abraham lived and the time Solomon was burn. THIS SHOWS THAT MUHAMMAD WAS A FALSE PROPHET AND A LIAR. THE BIBLE ALWAYS GIVES VIVID ACCOUNT WHICH CAN BE TREACEABLE EITHER BY YEARS, THE REIGNING KING AS AT THEN OR BY THE SORROUNDING CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATIONS , UNLIKE QURAN. |
What Kind of man was he? Mark 4:39-41 KJV And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. [40] And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? [41] And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? WHAT A MIGHTY GOD WE SERVE. |
THAT WAS THE REASON GOD TOLD US NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE OF ANYTHING IN HEAVEN,ON EARTH AND UNDERNEATH THE EARTH, BECAUSE THEY CAN BE POSSESSED BY DEMONS \ EVIL SPIRITS. What a pity , how people are perishing for lack if knowledge. Exodus 20:4 KJV Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Leviticus 26:1 KJV Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. |
HOW MUHAM-MAD USED TO GOOGLE REVELATIONS: Book 008, Number 3333: SAHIH MUSLIM : Anas b. Malik (Allah be pleased with him) reported: When Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married Zainab bint jahsh, he invited people (to the wedding feast) and they ate food. They then sat there and entered into conversation. He (the Holy Prophet) made a stir as if he was preparing to stand up, but (the persons busy in talking) did not stand up. When he (the Holy Prophet) saw it, he stood up and when he did so, some other persons stood up. 'Asim and Abd al-A'la in their narrations made this addition: Three (persons) sat there, and Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) came there to enter (the apartment) but he found the people sitting there. Then they stood up and went away. He said: Then I came and informed Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) that they had gone away. He (the Holy Prophet) then came there until he entered (the apartment). I also went and was about to enter, when he hung a curtain between me and him (and it was on this occasion that) Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, revealed this verse:" O you who believe, enter not the houses of the Prophet unless permission is given to you for a meal, not waiting for its cooking being finished to the (words)" Surely this is serious in the sight of Allah" (xxxiii. 53). WHEN THE ABOVE INCIDENT HAPPENED , MUHAMMAD SAID ALLAH GAVE HIM A REVELATION : Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِىِّ إِلَّآ أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلٰى طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نٰظِرِينَ إِنٰىهُ وَلٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا وَلَا مُسْتَئْنِسِينَ لِحَدِيثٍ ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ يُؤْذِى النَّبِىَّ فَيَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنْكُمْ ۖ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتٰعًا فَسْئَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَآءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَآ أَنْ تَنْكِحُوٓا أَزْوٰجَهُ ۥ مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦٓ أَبَدًا ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمًا "O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity." (QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 53) HOW DOES THIS REVELATION BENEFIT OTHER MUSLIMS NOW. WAS THIS NOT SUPPOSED TO AN ETERNAL WORD ? NO WONDER AISHAT , WHO WAS THE CLOSEST TO HIM , SAID IN THE HADITH BELOW " THAT ALLAH HURRIES IN REVELATIONS TO PLEASE MUHAMMAD : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48: Sahih Bukhari : Narrated Hisham's father: Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet for marriage. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" But when the Verse: "(O Muhammad) You may postpone (the turn of) any of them (your wives) that you please,' (33.51) was revealed, " 'Aisha said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in pleasing you.' " WHY WON'T ALLAH GIVE MUHAMMAD THOSE CONVINIENT REVELATIONS SINCE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD HEAR AND RECEIVE FROM ALLAH. SOME WERE ESCEPTICAL AND DOUBTED HIS REVELATIONS, MORE ESPECIALLY WHEN HE WAS THE ONE RECIEVING AND BENEFITING FROM THE REVELATIONS. Allah SWT says: وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ "And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know." (QS. An-Nahl: Verse 101) |
YOU ARE A SPIRITUAL ILLETRATE. Your Muhammad is in hell and you want to follow him, go ahead , but you have been warned . A right thinking person would know that Quran is a rubbish , unless he or she has not read it in the language he or she understands . Are you asking us to become evil like the Boko haram , Fulani herdsmen, the ISIS , Hesbolah and other suicide bombers in Iran , Iraq , France , Britain , America etc? Where is Liah shuab ? Why are all the Muslims not concern about that ? Because they are enjoying the evil deeds of their comrades of Satan. You prefer a prophet like Muhammad who was : A shameless pedophile . He married a 6 years old @ age 51. A shameless father who married his adopted son's wife . A Prophet who was kissing an idol ( black stone ) A prophet whose only power was power to Sex 11 women everyday. A Prophet who was a murderer. A Prophet who could not pray for his 6 dying children A Prophet who was killed by ordinary poison. A cursing prophet. A lying Prophet. etc. Tell me any good the Prophet of Islam did ? The only award he could get was S.A.W. which means "Sex Award winner". Nothing more. There was nothing Muhammad could not do for sex. Only those in satanic captivity ( slaves ) that would read the Quran and still believe its the word of God. Example. Allah SWT says: وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا "And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished." (QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37) BECAUSE HE WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH HIS ADOPTED SON'S WIFE , HE FAKED THAT REVELATION , AND ALLAH WAS PLEASED WITH HIM. USELESS SHAMELESS PEDOPHILE MURDERER SEX ADDICTED PROPHET. |
I think it is a sin by not following the Divine procreation process , which is sexual relationship between a man and a woman. The implications are these : The child will be fatherless . There will be no family root or lineage for the child. If the sperm donor did not leave any information regarding his tribe and nationality , the child will not have a tribe. The child will be seen as a bastard. It encourages procreation without marriage or spouse. It breeds or encourages lesbianism in the society. That is my opinion. |
Abdulgaffar22:You want to hide under English grammar . Let me show you again , in case it has escaped your memory: Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصٰرٰىٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ ۥ مِنْهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى الْقَوْمَ الظّٰلِمِينَ "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] ALLIES of one another. And whoever is an ALLY to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people." (QS. Al-Maaida: Verse 51) THE WORD ALLY MEANS TO JOIN WITH ANOTHER PERSON OR GROUP ETC, IN ORDER TO GET OR GIVE SUPPORT. IT MEANS TO FORM OR ENTER INTO AN ALLIANCE WITH SOMEONE. It is a 2 or more factors that ally together. You give or get. Go and check your dictionary or you understand English more than dictionary also ? YOU ARE TRYING . WHY DID YOU NOT EXPLAIN THE BELOW? Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا النَّبِىُّ جٰهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنٰفِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَمَأْوٰىهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination." (QS. At-Tawba: Verse 73) This is another translation for you : 51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. Can you read the word " friends " from the statement above? It is FRIENDS AND PROTECTOR not HELPER AND PROTECTOR . SINCE ALLAH SAYS HE DOES NOT GUIDES WRONGDOERS , WHY SHOULD THE MUSLIM ASK PEOPLE TO ACCEPT ISLAM AS A WAY TO GOD? Go and pray , this Islam is not a way. The God of the Christians and Jews is not Allah , the god of the Muslims . please believe me. You may not know , facing kabaah and circumbulating it is PURE IDOLATRY. God cannot live inside the kabaah and if God is not residing in the kabaah , why do you have to face it and pray to it? Why circling it 7 times and pointing to the black stone on each circle ? If the God of the Bible is the same with the god of the Quran , there mode of worship should at least be relate but the modes of their worships are not correlated at all . Why ? Is that corrupted also ? What about the hymn books ? Muslim don't have any. So many differences. Mind you , not all Christians will make heaven , may be 10% . It is only those that are living a holy life . Jesus said : Matthew 7:13-14 KJV Enter ye in at the strait ( tiny ) gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it. WHICH CHRISTIANS CAN MAKE HEAVEN ? ONLY THOSE WHO DO NOT ENGAGED IN THE BELOW : Galatians 5:19-21 KJV Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these ; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. |
Abdulgaffar22:What is the essence of preaching to someone to accept a particular religion or to repent? Is it not to help ? That means , Allah does not want the Muslims to help the Christians and the Jews . compare and contrast the Two scriptures again : Acts 10:28 KJV And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصٰرٰىٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ ۥ مِنْهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى الْقَوْمَ الظّٰلِمِينَ "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people." (QS. Al-Maaida: Verse 51) Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا النَّبِىُّ جٰهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنٰفِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَمَأْوٰىهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination." (QS. At-Tawba: Verse 73) This surah 9:73 is not even talking about close or far friendship . Since Muslims are not not expected to preach to non Muslims but to fight against them , it means Islam is not for the world but just for the Arabs as you are trying to proof on this thread against Christianity. WHAT GAIN WAS THERE FOR THE APOSTLES BY PREACHING TO THE GENTILES? WHAT GAIN WAS THERE FOR THEM? THEY KNEW IT WOULD AMOUNT TO THEIR DEATH . WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO RISK THEIR LIVES ? THESE WERE MEN WITH NO GUNS ,NO SOLDIERS UNLIKE Muhammad and his followers who were warriors with guns and were taking women captives and collecting booties. There was no religion contending with the Jews and Christianity , why would they change the words of God and for what gain? Have you not read that Satan made Muhammad to recite what Allah did not asked him to ? How can you be sure all the Quran is not satanic since Muhammad could not differentiate btw GOD and SATAN? Allah SWT says: وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ مِنْ رَّسُولٍ وَلَا نَبِىٍّ إِلَّآ إِذَا تَمَنّٰىٓ أَلْقَى الشَّيْطٰنُ فِىٓ أُمْنِيَّتِهِۦ فَيَنْسَخُ اللَّهُ مَا يُلْقِى الشَّيْطٰنُ ثُمَّ يُحْكِمُ اللَّهُ ءَايٰتِهِۦ ۗ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ "And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise." (QS. Al-Hajj: Verse 52) what relationship is there btw God and Satan ? Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72: Sahih Bujhari : Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id." MUHAMMAD WAS ENJOYING SATANIC MUSIC , WHY ? BECAUSE HE WAS DOING SATAN'S WORK. |
Abdulgaffar22:WHAT ABOUT THIS ? Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصٰرٰىٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ ۥ مِنْهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى الْقَوْمَ الظّٰلِمِينَ "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people." (QS. Al-Maaida: Verse 51) WHY ARE THE MUSLIMS GOING AGAINST THE COMMANDS OF ALLAH. ALLAH SAYS IN THE ABOVE THAT HE " guides not the wrongdoing people". At least God instructed Peter to go to the gentiles , but here Allah says he will not guide the wrong people and Muslims should not associate with them. Are you not an hypocrite by not considering this b4 castigating Christianity ? |
Op and other Muslims , do you expect this from a good prophet? Allah SWT says: وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلَّا تُقْسِطُوا فِى الْيَتٰمٰى فَانْكِحُوا مَا طَابَ لَكُمْ مِّنَ النِّسَآءِ مَثْنٰى وَثُلٰثَ وَرُبٰعَ ۖ فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا فَوٰحِدَةً أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمٰنُكُمْ ۚ ذٰلِكَ أَدْنٰىٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُوا "And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]." (QS. An-Nisaa: Verse 3) TO MARRY MORE THAN ONE WIFE , YOU MUST BE SURE TO BE FAIR TO ALL OF THEM. THAT IS NO PARTIALITY . Was Muhammad not partial in his relationship with his wives? Volume 3, Book 47, Number 755: Sahih Bukhari : Narrated 'Urwa from 'Aisha: The wives of Allah's Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of 'Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Um Salama and the other wives of Allah's Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved 'Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah's Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah's Apostle had come to 'Aisha's home and then he would send his gift to Allah's Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah's Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife's house he was. Um Salama told Allah's Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Um Salama about it. She said, "He did not say anything to me." They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, "Talk to him till he gives you a reply." When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, "Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha." On that Um Salama said, "I repent to Allah for hurting you." Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle and sent her to Allah's Apostle to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms." Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, "O my daughter! Don't you love whom I love?" She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation. They requested her to go to him again but she refused. They then sent Zainab bint Jahsh who went to him and used harsh words saying, "Your wives request you to treat them and the daughter of Ibn Abu Quhafa on equal terms." On that she raised her voice and abused 'Aisha to her face so much so that Allah's Apostle looked at 'Aisha to see whether she would retort. 'Aisha started replying to Zainab till she silenced her. The Prophet then looked at 'Aisha and said, "She is really the daughter of Abu Bakr." From this hadith above , Muhammad told his daughter that she loved Aisha more than the other wives , is that fair treatment? Why did he violate the commandment of Allah? He did not repent even when he was about to die : Volume 1, Book 4, Number 197: Sahih Bukhari : Narrated 'Aisha: When the ailment of the Prophet became aggravated and his disease became severe, he asked his wives to permit him to be nursed (treated) in my house. So they gave him the permission. Then the Prophet came (to my house) with the support of two men, and his legs were dragging on the ground, between 'Abbas, and another man." 'Ubaid-Ullah (the sub narrator) said, "I informed 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas of what'Aisha said. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'Do you know who was the other man?' I replied in the negative. Ibn 'Abbas said, 'He was 'Ali (bin Abi Talib)." 'Aisha further said, "When the Prophet came to my house and his sickness became aggravated he ordered us to pour seven skins full of water on him, so that he might give some advice to the people. So he was seated in a Mikhdab (brass tub) belonging to Hafsa, the wife of the Prophet. Then, all of us started pouring water on him from the water skins till he beckoned to us to stop and that we have done (what he wanted us to do). After that he went out to the people." |
Abdulgaffar22:Do you think you are doing yourself any good by not facing the truth ? No , you are joking with your eternal life in hell. Religion is not a joke , it is about life and death. Avoiding to answer the question does not remove the truth or falsehood about Islam. You referenced the below scriptures as evidence that Jesus did not asked the Jews to preached to the whole , which shows nothing of such. I have showed to you many other evidences . Acts 10:28-29 KJV And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; BUT GOD HATH SHEWED ME that I should not call any man common or unclean. [29] Therefore CAME I UNTO YOU without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? WHAT CAN YOU SAY OF THIS ABOUT ISLAM ? Allah SWT says: يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصٰرٰىٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ ۥ مِنْهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى الْقَوْمَ الظّٰلِمِينَ "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people." (QS. Al-Maaida: Verse 51) THIS IS WHAT YOUR QURAN SAYS. DID THAT NOT INFORM YOU THAT MUSLIMS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PREACHED TO THE WORLD ABOUT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH? IF THEY ARE NOT EXPECTED TO ASSOCIATE WITH US , WHY PREACHING TO US . OR IT MEANS KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS BUT DON'T CONVERT THEM? THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT PETER SAID. PETER WAS CONDEMNED BY GOD AND INSTRUCTED TO GO AND MEET THE GENTILE ( CORNELIUS ) AND HE DID. BUT HERE THE QURAN SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT ASSOCIATE WITH CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. IF GOING BY YOUR ALLEGATION, THEN THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT TO PREACH ISLAM TO THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS , BECAUSE "ALLAH GUIDES NOT THE WRONGDOING PEOPLE" Again , is the below words of God or man ? Allah SWT says: وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا "And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished." (QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37) THERE IS NO WHERE ON THIS THREAD WHERE YOU ANSWERED THIS . SO STOP PRACTICING TAQIYYAH WITH ME , IT WILL ONLY LEAD YOU TO HELL. The bible says in : John 8:32 KJV And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Go and study the Quran b4 coming here to talk about the Bible you don't understand. Even Muhammad was instructed to ask we Christians and Jews for proper education about his revelations , how much more you : Allah SWT says: فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus: Verse 94) |
Awaiting your answer , op. |
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