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tommy589:
In real life we safely deduce from appearance a lunatic. Meanwhile,Appearance is sometimes deceptive. The madness you are exhibiting here online would soon manifest in real life. Enjoy your rehearsal online while it lasted.

You single out a name as the only achiever. While Awolowo s achievement is failure to you. You are crazy,you just need someone to tell you.

The free education your father took made him want another free education for you...therefore, you went to a decapitated public school where education is still almost free. Now, look at the consequences. Lol. You took " for example" for the general real-life total number of the scenario. Hahhahaha. You don't even know the meaning of ..."for example." He....Yaaaaah! Chai.

Keep looking for another awolowo free education. He who looks for free stuff is looking for failures....so says a Nigerian adage. That your papa you said is in grave has set up a failed son who is also going to set up a family because that mentality of getting free things for himself from the government is in your blood.

If that your papa had sent you to a school where you get a quality education, you will never have this mind. Chai. You are a failure.

What is my problem with subsidy? I visit other places and know what petroleum products cost outside Nigeria. Though i longer move about as I used to, petrol price can never be my problem

Werey dey disguise. See...I am ready to roast you...I will make sure you get tired of responding. That madness innyour head that has not made you to know your place, and when to stop...you have met a God-sent who will cast it out. I am ready to be used as an instrument to cast it out. You lived all your life in Naija. There is no more free education...get that into your skull.....werey is talking about subsidy ....so the education you had is so disgusting that you don't know that free education is a subsidy. Lol. See guy...you are finished....Petrol is the only subsidy to you... right? Guy...that your papa in grave...he and his mates.....I am going to be real here... even including my father were spoilt with free things. They got it all....and destroyed Nigeria. All our parents are guilty... except few ones. But I trained myself again. I went outside Nigeria and paid for my education. That was how I showed the real attitude towards living what I preach. I knew free education was wrong, and I struggled to move to where I could get a good education. Guess what? I returned to Nigeria to contribute my quota to the development again. Why? Though, Nigeria did not give me a good education oooo. But when you get a quality education, you get a reformed brain. Nigeria gave me an identity that is enough for me to contribute again to its development.

But I keep having to face madness like yours who got free education, reduced fuel price, reduced import duties, free free free free things. The challenge is that you don't value that which you get free. This is why those useless ones who got free education and decided to stay abroad and do nothing are vagabonds. No one is telling them to return to Nigeria, but what have they contributed. Mad people. They only wa t free things to leave Nigeria.

About that my father,that you repeatedly said is your mate and match to talk with, is in the grave. Since your desire is to engage him,God knows you are joining him soon

Lol! This is my problem with free education. Chai! Go to a better school, pay for it...you.dont want to. Lol. Anyway, your father is gone...and in the world I came from, we say RIP to him. Allow your father to rest in peace, boy. However, it doesn't remove the truth that he set you up for a failure. And since he is gone...guy...he is gone. The only person who can say when one is going is not you or me. I guess you leaned in your free educational school so that you can curse someone to death. Lol. Your papa is gone. Sorry, bro. I am not a bad person ....so, I feel you.

Empathy is part of what I learned in school, so, bro....I can be a father to you cos I have realised you crave for one. Lol. Sorry! I can add you to the list of people saved from the free things mentality. The truth is that your father has ended his time....and you gat to deal with it that this man here still has so much to achieve.

Go through my thread and learn how to live long. I don't want to speak bad of the dead, but perhaps, he was also so cruel to himself that he ate cheap food, went to only public hospitals, and he "kpeme" earlier than expected. That's one of the dividends of always looking for free things. He who wants free things is set to be a failure.


As a father who is ready to take you up, I will act as one. Another adage says, after scolding a child with the right or left hand, an adult draws him closer with the other hand. Son, I'm going to leave you cos it's obvious you are still mourning your father. Feel free to mourn as long as you want. When you are ready to face life, reach out to me. Guy...."shi shi", a no go give you in terms of money. But, I will teach you how to work hard, gather money, and go get the best education to make you a changed person. So that you won't be chained to wanting free stuff again. Also, you will learn how to contribute to the nation you were born in. I am willing and ready to do that for you as a father. Lastly, I am willing to make you understand that you can't curse anyone to death. Just live your life and make sure you enjoy it. You have one life to live. Live it in a way that your children will be proud of you. Live it in a way that your legacies will keep speaking loud years after you have gone. I'm sorry to say this. ..if your father had lived it well, I'm sure you wouldn't have cursed another person to die like him. Lol. It's a pain you need to deal with, and you need to be healed.

Son, reach out to me so you can get help. We pray for people mourning in my place. So, I pray you get healed from your madness.

I leave you in peace.

tommy589:
I am not a politician and I don't vote. What is there to loot. You have deflected and chose to engage in insult. Awolowo that you are still hating on is long gone and left a lasting legacy.

A kid who doesn't know his place will be insulted and treated badly, while a kid who knows how to wash his hands before eating will even take gifts home. You are a useless kid. Period.

A kid who sees good in Nigeria giving out free education to selfish people who NEVER return to at least contribute to the nation is a potential idiotic fellow.

Of course, Awolowo had a good intention. Jakande had a good one, too, but they failed because poverty does not automatically qualify for free things. He who deserves what should be free must be given after a critical analysis of the situation. Why? Free things are seeds sown that should bring fruits back to the soil that produces them. So, Awolowo produced fruits that are beneficial to another soil. Lol. Of what benefit is that? Oh...it benefits the individuals.sq What about Nigeria?

Don't restrain your bottled bitterness,just pour it on me if this will give you relief

Yes, because cra.zy people like you who don't know the pain and agony in making Nigeria great should be thrown out of Nigeria.

You are a bad fruit for Nigeria. You want subsidies for yourself... free education for yourself ....just to leave. Nigeria.

I spit on you and all the people you mentioned. Meanwhile, I adore people like Ngozi Iweala who did not get any free education but conquered the world, yet returned to contribute to Nigeria. You don't see people like her, idiots like the physicists are who you see because you are black and bad for Nigeria. If everyone gets free education just to abandon Nigeria, what is the gain? This is the reason Awolowo failed. He gave free education to useless people just because he felt he needed to help the poor. Little did he know that poor people are the most selfish and self-centered humans. Lol. I don't pity poor people because I know they are evil. And I know that anyone can come put in poverty. But those who die in it mostly are evil.

There are too many idio.ts the Nigerian government sends to Russia, Ukraine, England, the US, Malaysia... and they all always abandon Nigeria. Do you ever think such good for Nigeria?

You deserved to be cursed and not just insulted. You are evil. Like I wrote earlier... you are a potential looter. You are black... and evil.

Fortunately, we will never find another Awolowo and Jakande again. I am sure Awolowo is filled with regrets for that free education policy. Of course, he was a great leader. I like his cash crop approach. Yet, the evil poor people he assisted to grow cocoa, coffee, rubber, and palm trees did not sustain them. Where Awolowo stopped is where they stopped, too, expecting another Awolowo to give them free things again to acquire more. Mad people. And when they. So, they turned themselves to omonile. They can't farm but are hoping another Awolowo will come and farm for them so they can just start harvesting again like Awolowo's Period. Lol. Generating of collecting free things. You are all mad. That poverty will kill you all.

tommy589:
Instead to counter all I said you chose to insult me. Few minutes ago I chatted one of those "thugs" produced by Awolowo free education. He is now a Physicist Professor in one of German universities.

Have a great day

Took money from Nigeria to produce a physicist working for another country. And that's a success to you. Lol. Your mind is about you...yourself...your success....you and only you. Of course... you want a free thing like the useless physicist who got free education but still feel cool to not contribute back to the nation who sponsored him. Lol. Clap for yourself. You will get that free education so you can go to Germany also.

Get the crap outta my mention. You are disgusting. And if you don't know when to stop...you.will wound yourself. You are a potential looter. You just need to grab the opportunity when it presents itself.

You are one of the people Nigeria needs to vomit and spit into the bottomless pit.

tommy589:
From time immemorial people have been leaving Nigeria for economic reasons to settle in other lands. A little over 20 years ago I became acquainted with a Ghanaian that spoke Yoruba and Hausa fluently without ever visiting Nigeria. His ability to speak both languages was from the children of immigrants he grew up with.

You must be a kid. Your opening sentence says it all. Even Trump is trying to make foreign students who graduate from their schools stay in he US. And you opened your mouth to say that bullshit. Of course, it's when it is cheap and free. When you take a loan to go to school, that useless statement won't come out of your mouth. Go ask Scandinavians. Just imagine. And he is saying it boldly. It's not your fault. This is why the average Nigerian is a potential looter of public funds.

Of what use is a mechanical engineer that can not couple a grinding machine? Under development and the value you don't see in Nigeria's education has to do with absence of synergy between the education we have here and the practical utilisation for the country's good. If Awolowo free education is that bad,how come they migrate, sit and pass those foreign countries certification and become employed?
Lol. This guy's brain is actually a product of a failed educational system. See reasoning. Lol. You are a kid. Go and ask the standard of Premier University and its teaching hospital from your father or grandfather in those days before free education came on board. Lol. That free stuff go kill you. Free this...free that. Subsidy this...subsidy that. There is no plan to even pay back. Free free free.

[quote]Thugs finding their way to tertiary institutions is not because of Awolowo's free education. Is Awolowo's influence that also spreads to other regions? There was influx of working and married people that returned to school when free education program started in SW. Are those grown-ups the type that will submit to intimidation or get influenced by unsavoury elements in educational institutions?

Go and ask your father about all the thugs Jakande opened evening schools for in the 80s. You are a kid. Ask him how smoking of hemp started in our schools. You are a kid.

Quit with this erroneous belief that standard of education is lower. Years ago,I was reading this day in history of daily times newspaper. The editorial was of 1930s and it was about fallen standard of education in Nigeria. That Nigeria fallen standard of the "30s had produced world renowned academics and still producing.

This is read a newspaper to come argue with me. And you think the fallen standard is still producing renowned academics? So you call these lecturers great? Lol. Christ! I won't reply you again.

If you doubt me, get yourself secondary schools textbooks 1-6 of 20 Years ago,you may even go farther than that and check with current textbooks to know the ones with easier topics. Come back and let us know if the standard is lower

Lol. You need to find the textbooks when used in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s to grab this kid. Stop this nonsense. You are a kid. Your father is the one who is supposed to be chatting with me... not you. Go sleep! Grow up!

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tommy589:
Awolowo did not fail with free education. The first set of southerners that left Nigeria for greener pastures were professionals from southern Nigeria. A certain tribe populates UK and US flights most,this indicates they have a sizable population in those countries supporting family and friends.

If Awolowo failed,what are you going to say about other tribal leaders?

I looked into the long-term results. Sure, there were significant short-term successes and failures, as you have highlighted, which I appreciate. However, we continue to suffer in the long run. His free education policy lowered Nigeria's educational standards, which we continue to suffer from today. It also introduced thuggery into our educational system, which is why student protests continue to be violent today. In all seriousness, it was one of the entry points for fraternities into our universities.

Finally, what is the benefit of free education if it leads to the development of other nations rather than Nigeria, which provided them with free education? After receiving a free education here, they leave Nigeria. Lol. Even those who received scholarships (education is not free in Nigeria) did not return. Is that your success criterion? Lol.

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Thank you so much for this analysis. I will share my thoughts with each point you have here.

emkz:
It is no longer news that the protesters have publicized several demands and have not met to converge on what they want. Let us look at some of the demands.

(1) Scrapping of the 1999 constitution and replacement with a people-made constitution
If the constitution is scrapped, what would Nigeria be governed with? If they need a people-made constitution, where is their own manuscript for that constitution? Do they think a constitution is something that is just written like a homework?

This specific demand is a call for an interim government, and possibly military rule. Once the constitution is suspended, Tinubu ceases to be president because his powers as president are legitimized by the constituion.

The idea is to use this first point as the momentum for achieving regional government. And for this to happen, the first casualty is the death of the 1999 constitution. This is the one single thing that must die before the referendum they have been calling for is achieved.

Again, this is ONLY point that can bring Igbos back to the drawing board. The North did not like it, but it looks like Bola Tinubu has eventually made them realise that, after all, it may be a good often for them. Now that they know food security may really supercedes oil and gas, the North seems to be in the game. Food security is the only option that can save Tinubu from this because the momentum will keep building up. Like I wrote earlier, I dont see this protest as the real big thing. This will definitely usher in many situations I have seen. This is a chess game. Lol. Making it number 1 is deliberate. You need to think well to see this. The same minds that pull down Jonathan Goodluck are at work. They are master strategist, only that the Tinubu arm isn't part of it. But considering the El-Rufai brilliant mind likely involvement, Tinubu should sit up. Mark my words this is a momentum builder.

(2) Toss the Senate arm of the Nigerian legislative system
There is no where, there is no constitution that gives President Tinubu or anyone the powers to scrap a part of any arm of government. This can only be done by the military. This specific demand also calls for military rule. The other demand to make legislative work part-time would require a constitutional amendment. Tinubu does not have the powers to make that amendment by fiat.

This is a deliberate attack on the Akpabio led senate that they know will not impeach the president. So, they need to throw punches to weaken them a bit. The idea is to give the senate headaches to face. They would rather start working hard to keep their jobs instead of using all their might to back the president. This is a strategic point to weaken part of the presidential defence. Think, bro!

(3) Increase minimum wage of Nigerian workers to 250,000 naira monthly
This is something the president can do. Unfortunately, how many governors have been able to pay 30,000 naira monthly? How many can even pay 70,000 monthly, with the Gombe State governor already saying he won't be able to afford it? Thise who work in the public sector enjoy a lot of allowances, and lucrative trainings abroad and travelling. The salary is just what it is. There is a government agency that even gives all cadres of workers fuel allowance. Unfortunately, many states civil service won't be able to afford this. So 250,000 across board might not be accomplished and the president cannot be responsible for paying states' civil servants.

They knew Buhari could not make the naira better in 2014/2015 na but they used the point together with fuel pump price to move the masses against Jonathan. The same way Jonathan became unpopular is the same way they want to make Tinubu. Tinubu is known to be a man in charge of whatever he does, but this way, they can set fire to make him less focused so they can catch him unaware. You want to tell me that everyone doesn't know it is impossible to pay such an amount?

Another reason is to set fire in the senate. This will back up the point above. The Senate is one of the looting machines in Nigeria. So the brains behind this protest are using this to lure the likes of Deji Adeyanju, Sowore, into it. And it's working. Lol. Again, Sowore a d Adeyanju will be used and dumped. Of course, can't you see the momentum Sowore and Adeyanju have created in Abuja? Who is Wike to face them? Wike who was talking rubbish has started asking for dialogue. Lol. Even that lawyer called Adegunruwa or so has seen where it is going that they might have been used and called for the end of the protest. Can't you see? It is clear that the North is the hand moving this protest cos they know it is the ONLY way. If they fail, Tinubu will crush them all. They know the consequences, too.

(4) Invest heavily in education and give students grants, not loans and compulsory education across Nigeria
Some public universities institute scholarships for bright students as far back as 20 years ago. Some universities take over the fees of students on track to first class. Many states have bursaries with which they support students. Agencies like TETFUND? NDDC and PTDF have consistently funded students within and outside Nigeria. I won't support giving grants to dullards. Let everyone win grants on merit as it has always been.

The protesters may not know that agencies like UBEC had tried to tackle the issue of compulsory education, but even after FG releases money, some states fail to pay their counterpart funding. fPresident Jonathan built some almajiri schools; what is the state of the schools today? In my view, each state can decide to deal with the problem of free and compulsory education on their own.

It is even funny that Sowore started this point. The issue is that Sowore isn't an economist. So, he doesn't understand how nations are built. A nation that can not pay a good minimum wage is the one he is asking to give grants to most students? The grants Awolowo and Jakande gave where are the dividends? Lol. They knew Nigeria could not fund quality education and housing estates for most people then, and they went ahead. Go and check all the low-cost estates Jankande built. Lol. Go and ask Lagos State the result of the free education in Lagos. Go and ask how touts entered the educational system of Lagos. Oh... I forgot about those Jakande schools and desks. Lol. Disaster!!!

Education needs a real plan and not using it as a political weapon. Awolowo felt he was smart then, but we are paying for it dearly today. Of course, many gained from it too, but the result is bad. OK. If Awolowo failed with the population, then how do we think we can be successful that our population has tripled? Lol

(5) Unconditional release of Nnamdi Kanu, demilitarization of the southeast and release and compensation of EndSARS protesters
Nnamdi Kanu's case is in court, why not allow the process to be seen to the end? As for demilitarization of the southeast, similar calls were made by Borno elders to former president Jonathan as they claimed the military was killing their children. Jonathan asked Borno elders to guarantee him they'd ensure an end to terrorism in their domain. They refused to assure him. It is the military that has ensured things have not become worse than they are right now.

As for unconditional release and compensation for all EndSARS protesters, are the protesters aware that some of those who claimed to be EndSARS protesters looted public properties and businesses? Are they calling for their release as well? In my view, those who committed crimes must be punished.

Be careful with your stand here. Your view is too extreme. I refuse to get into this because it is a sensitive issue. Of course, they need to mount pressure on the president. The truth is that no president except the one from Igbo will ever release Kanu. Period. But I admonish you not to build up the momentum for revolution more by hammering more on this issue. This is a deliberate act to keep Igbo more irritated. They want Igbos to get more angry so they can use them again. And Igbos are smart. They are chilling. Lol.

(6) Renationalize public enterprises sold to government officials and cronies
Would be nice to know the specific public enterprises and the government officials who purchased them. I am sure the protesters are not aware of OPL 245 and the Malabu scandal that has ruined Nigeria's chances of making good money from that lucrative oil well? Even if the assets were sold corruptly, it cannot be retrieved by fiat. There is a process that can drag for many years. Only the military or an autocrat can reverse things like this.

You dey whine me? If you were the president, would you do it? This is a war against Buhari and also a way Tinubu is shooting himself. You dey whine me? With what you are seeing in the North, do you think any president will go after Buhari? Lol. Dey play!

(7) Reinitiation of a corrupt-free subsidy regime to reduce hunger, starvation and multidimensional poverty.
This makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, the same Nigerians will abuse the subsidy regime. Even the bags of rice that were donated, no matter how paltry; didn't some people attempt to rebag the rice to sell?

Bro... you are on point. The average Nigerian is corrupt. Lol.

(8.) Probing the past and present Nigerian leaders who looted the treasury, recovering the loot and putting the funds in a special account to fund education, healthcare and infrastructure
In other words, Nigeria should spend years on litigation. How about block loopholes so that no one can loot again?

No matter how we try to avoid it, this is the main issue that can redeem Nigeria. If not done, looting continues until Nigeria dies. The truth is that the cost of that limitation you want to run from is cheaper than the looting still going on. Think about it. However, I don't see it happening. So, I am saying it again... Nigeria will die. Now, take a look at the first demand. As soon as the agitation for this is hot, which they know will not happen, roadblocks for canceling 1999 constitution, which is the first demand, will start clearing. Remember, the first demand is the ultimate goal.

(9) Restructuring Nigeria to accommodate diversity, resource control decentralization and regional autonomy
This makes sense. Unfortunately, people from Mars will not be in charge of the regions. Look at NDDC that failed the Niger Delta people. Restructuring Nigeria will require a constitutional amendement and Tinubu cannot do it by fiat.

OK. You are getting it. Lol. This is the main agenda now. The North is ready to leave Nigeria. If we want to split, this is the best opportunity. The only stumbling block is Tinubu, who wants to build a legacy for himself and will not want Nigeria split during his time. Fortunately, he is the BEST candidate for it. Osinbajo wouldn't have cancelled subsidy the way Tinubu did. God works on mysterious ways. Lol.

(10) End banditry and terrorism and violent crimes
Why was this not point number 1? This is something the president can and must do. Everyone must work with him on this. The parents of the bandits, kidnappers and terrorists must give up their children; the rogue businessmen, religious leaders and local politicians must give up their businesses and report their footsoldiers to the authorities. The era of "he must not kill our people" must stop. Terrorism has destroyed the peace in most states and must be dealt with decisively.

Why will it be number 1 when they know the people sponging terrorism in Nigeria? They are always using it as a political weapon...and they have started again the same way they used it against Jonathan. Did they use it against Buhari? Lol..

(11) Estabishing a special energy fund to drive investments in the power sector
Didn't Buhari sign a bill into law to allow states generate their own electricity? How many states have taken advantage of it? Didn't Nigeria also secure an energy development bank for Africa to be headquarted in Abuja recently to identify and develop Africa's energy sources? Of course, Nigeria will take advantage of this.

You are on point. But the idea is to still use one of the main challenges Nigeria is facing. They don't have the solution to it, but they must use it. They are trying to use a lack of electricity to make the masses join them. Lol. Don't you get it?

(12) Reconstitution of Nigeria's electoral body to remove corrupt individuals and partisan hacks
We have heard so much accusation of the INEC chairman being bribed and thereby compromising the election. How much was he given? How was the money paid? In which account was it deposited? We need to be careful the way we throw accusations to soil people's names.

They know Tinubu will win again. Has he ever lost any election? Lol. The idea is still number 1. This is the main goal. The North is ready to leave Nigeria. Period. Open your eyes. They are the only one who can decide when to leave. They have the number to cause wahala.

(13) Massive investment in public works and industrialization to eploy Nigerians
Many among the youth publicly opposed the Lagos-Calabar coastal highway and sided with Landmark, despite his properties not adversely affected. We must all agree on what we want as a people.

Lol....Younare on point.

(14) Massive shake up in the Nigerian judiciary to remove cabals of corrupt generation of judges
Historically, the Nigerian Judicial Commission has destroyed many judges implicated for corruption. There was one hearing an elections petitions case and received a donation for his father's funeral from the defendant's lawyer, who was a SAN. They fired the judge and had the lawyer derobed of his SAN. Many judges have had their promotion stunted and dismissed. Because of the way the judiciary is, these things are not always in the press.

I reserve my comment here. Lol. The president who is ready to fight corruption is the only one who will do this. Since you also agreed that the average Nigerian is corrupt, this will not happen. So, I see Nigeria breaking up. If this happens, that high cost ligitation you talked about will happen. Lol. I have more to day here, but I choose to zip my mouth.

(15) Disapora voting
This is needed.

Why is it needed? For what exactly? Do you want someone who is not in your nation to decide for those struggling in it? Do you really get what you are saying? Lol...

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More Advice:
I am not going to tell you to or not to protest, but ONE thing I am going to tell you is this: Learn from the Biafra WAR. We should try to avoid war.

Number 2 lesson from the Biafra war is that you should plan on how to feed yourself. Go and buy a minimum of a plot of land in a residential area and start gardening. Cultivate tubers of yams and potatoes, vegetables, and fruits. You can produce eggs and poultry/rabbit meat, too. Food security is essential. The North has realised the power of food security, and they are willing to go.

Good luck to you all.

Audio threat. Lol.

However, I strongly believe this protest is going to build the momentum for spliting Nigeria. It is not going to happen immediately, but I forsee the legislative making quick moves to start regional government implementation. This will save the situation from turning to war.

People are tired. It takes only one mistake for people to know that they can die for Nigeria, and many will start dying by facing bullets.

Like I said earlier, Tinubu should speed up whatever he is doing to provide food. For security is all we need. He doesn't even need to try to make fuel price to come down. All that is needed is to get experts and cultivate thousands of hectares to provide food. That's all. But the man is busy doing useless things. We will see where this will end.

That hungry man is a desperate man. And Naija men wey like food like mad..lol.....Tinubu go soon hear am.

Give Nigerian men food, and you have done well for them. They like food. Their destiny is in food.

Audio Hope.. Darkness can not sell any hope to light. Corruption has no hope. Period!

My advice is that you should prepare for the days of hunger ahead. Start now before it is too late. Get plots of land, fence them, and start producing your food. Period!

Kenneth is making way for a real leader to step up. Obi is not the right person...go read my post from the start. Obi? Lol. Kenneth has seen it. Obi is not for the people. I said it a long time ago... All the three contestants are rubbish, and the worst is Atiku. So, just imagine the rubbish we are facing under Tinubu. Lol.

He said the same people who protested against former President Goodluck Jonathan, who hails from Niger Delta, have come with the same tactic against another Southerner in the person of President Bola Tinubu, urging the people not to be carried away by sweet talk.

I agree with him 100%; however, Tinubu himself is a dangerous man who should have been resisted from contesting from day 1. I keep saying it that neither Obi nor Atiku is a better candidate. Regardless, Obi would have faced the same protest while Atiku would have been the only one who wouldn't.

From day 1, I have been posting on this thread that you should plan for the days of revolution because it will surely come. These politicians will not stop looting, and there is no military personnel who are taking over Nigeria because they are all corrupt. Hunger will keep getting worse in Nigeria.

I used to think Buhari was totally dull, but he was smart to listen to the people who told him to move the burden of subsidy removal to the next president after him. I guess Buhari had seen that Nigeria is in trouble, and it was why he said he was relocating to Niger after destroying everything. A dullard kon wise a bit not to carry the blame. Lol.

I think God loves Osinbajo so much that he didn't allow him to win that primary. This God works in mysterious ways.

Well, not until these politicians have finished Nigeria will they leave it alone. They definitely will ruin Nigeria. Mark my words. Nigeria must crash for new nations to emerge, and then, those nations will be handled by volunteers who will use their wealth to start rebuilding. Nahemiahs will spring up from all over the world to make nations that come out of Nigeria extremely great.

I am already waiting for this day, and I will be a pioneer of the new nations. I will go to all the nations and get a residence permit so I can help them all.

My life is dedicated to humanity, and I will be prepared by then. Food security is the first target. This is the ONLY mistake Tinubu had made, and he has not realised it. If he wants to survive the upcoming revolution, he must quickly figure out how to bring in experts and provide food. He needs to take over the Agricultural and Livestock ministries. Tinubu needs to be on top of these two areas, but he is staying in Abuja. This man will soon know the extent hungry people can go.

Well, it is not too late...if you want to survive the hunger coming...go buy minimum of a plot of land, and start building a good soil. You can have chickens, ducks, quails, goats, vegetables, roots, and some fruits on the land. It's better to make it 6 plots of land. Buy nearby the city and not in the bush. Fence your land. Start preparing for the days of hunger.

Best of luck to everyone.

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Here is where you said his combo is perfect. You are dangerous. You know nothing.

Zwooks:
Will you shut up. I deliberately shunned that not to ruin the relationship between him and the other party. Was I the one who counselled using glyphosate on grown maize. Are you madd ?

You are the one who should shut the crap up. You are becoming a nuisance in the agric section. Shut the crap up.

This moniker starting with Z is dangerous. Obviously, he needs to take his medication daily. He is always trying to position himself as a consultant with a farm. But it is clear that he knows absolutely zero about farming. I had to oppose him in anotjer maize thread to caution him. Guys, be careful with that guy before you regret it. You can see that someone else has noticed him. He is not a farmer. He has no experience. Don't listen to him. That moniker that starts with Z.

zemaye:
pls continue this thread it is a enlightening

lot of us read and open our mind through this

may I ask if you found suitable land for growing
I am also on the hunt for 5 acres to creat our own sustainble homestead

zemaye:
right now in talks for 5 acres near ijebu ode precisely in ijebu Imosan still early days bargain wise with a 700k plot price good road acess as we were told waiting for some video call with our contact.
not far from lagos as we were told. thought to mention that

Keep me updated sir. Thanks.

betabread:
I suspect u too like me grew up in the city very far away from an egalitarian lifestyle then decided to go into crops, thats why the bulk of what u listed as problems are really not problems to people in rural communities.

I imagine that your wish comes true and you get this land close to the city, I can bet u that you might make your sales but U wont pocket a kobo from your revenue, REASON being the fundamental nature of humans..........Some things are not really easy to explain with words.....Thats why most farms are secluded very far from human residence...... "i know u wont agree"

Lol!

Oga, did you read where I wrote I used to cultivate 1ha every month? I used to be a bulk seller. If you know your business, you can do it. I maximized land then, too. You expand without maximising yours first becauase land is not scarce for you. And listen, I wouldn't have changed. Do you want to know why I changed? I was stubborn like you. I didn't want to listen to this retailing idea until I met someone. That person changed me. Have you read my health and wealth threads? Do you want to know how I got involved? I overworked myself doing farm work..always thinking...and my health suffered. So, I had to relax. I was forced to. And then, I had to earn money na. So, that's why I looked into other ways of making money from home. What do you want to say about working from home? And guess what? I learned Python and then data analysis. Then, I returned to my guy who had been telling me about retailing. I put everything together....saw the data...and I said wow! Wow!! Wow!!! I was still benched ... My doctor told me I needed more rest, but I could do gardening. That was how I started practising. My old act was to go for mono or ploy crop farming. Now, I am going into multi-crops gardening. I met sustainable experts, and I even travelled outside..boom...improved my skilled on microbes. I have my lab ...oga. Microscope and other equipment for analysing soil. I went for courses.

And I have practised it. I have trained 2 people who are making huge profit from just a plot of land (my niece who used it to raise cash to study in the UK....lol...she has an allotments in Herdforshire presently, and I visited her recently. Wetin this one dey talk?....And then a friend who has done me good in the past to make money) I am not willing to train anyone into profit making...but for health...yes. Wetin you dey talk? Trash! Trash!! Trash!!!

So, do what you wanna do. You have been in the business struggling for years like your predecessors, and you don't think a change might make a difference. Lol. Oh! According to you, the problems people who grew up in on farms face is different from problems those who grew up in cities face are different when they both farm in the same settings...lol. Listen to yourself, na.

You can not explain things because you have no data to analyse it. Period. Data analysis makes difficult things simple. Never could I have imagined that there would be self driving cars. What? But when they brought out vector analysis, optic, and data analysis, it became a reality. Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Keep living in the same old way, and keep saying trash.

About dat filter i wanted to know whats inside, if its like a special pipe, i will buyd d pipe and fabricate d filter

Good luck with this.

Farmers always want to talk down people with new ideas because they think their own way is the ONLY way out. Can you see how I was initially talked down as if I don't know what I am saying? Had it been that I didn't push it further, they would have successfully shut me up. Just imagine that the other one who said 40 naira per cob maize is a good deal and that the OP is greedy. And he said he is a farmer oooo. Lol. I had to ask him if he had taken his medication that day. Lol... If he truly has a farm he visits occasionally, he goes to just play around. He is useless. How can you say you are a farmer and not know that N40 per cob is a bad deal. Even people who don't know about farming came later to even tell me that using N120 is an insult when a cob is sold N500 in many places. Lol. If you listen to farmers, you are a dead meat. Lol. Nigerian farmers are the worst marketers. Farmers are the worst entrepreneurs. They are tools to make other people rich. And they glorify themselves in their madness, stupidity, foolishness, and poverty. They even celebrate it. Lol.

betabread:
Dats 1 of the few things i have not figured out a way to fabricate as i have not seen it.........

If anybody knows how i can get it in ibadan or lagos, pls link me or direct me........

I have asked a lot of sellers and they look at me with queer eyes

Op sorry for derailing ur thread

What you want to hear from me
It is around $150 to $300 and can be higher. Then, it is huge. Sellers don't attempt to import them cos they will sell at $400 minimum and then add the cost of shipping, which is huge. 2 inches is not huge, and you will think that 3 inches will be fairly bigger... but nope. It is extremely huge and thick. To make you understand it better, when I was cultivating new 1 ha cucumbers and tomatoes of every month, I had 3 inches surface pump per ha. I did not use 3 inches filter with the 3 inches surface pump if that is what you want to try to do (I strongly believe this is what you want to do). I used 2 inches, which is available. I use a reducer at the input and then expand it again at the output. It worked well. However, I created a by pass so that when the first 5 mins that I know sand may be innthe water is over, and the flow bypasses the filter. And the setup worked excellently well. So, it also depends on how clean your water is.

No seller will import a 3-inch filter. Lol. Of course, they will look at you like you are silly. Lol. But if you make pre-order (pay before import), they will gladly do it for you; however, they will knock you out. You can try it. Be ready to pay $200 to $500 at N1500 and then a huge cost of shipping. If you decide to use sea, it will be cheaper, but using air....you will know what's up.

With my exposure and experience, here is what you need to hear
You are gradually falling into the trap of spending more than your profit because you are expanding your land area. You are purely working for retailers and agents. Lol. You want to make more money because what you are earning is not satisfactory. Lol. And it is the reason your brain is looking into more sophisticated equipment. Lol. But in reality, you are a small-scale farmer.

Check
When the ONLY option is available, is to buy more sophiscated equipment to increase profits, and you know it is not easily possible because of your income....then, you are using a wrong strategy. Move away from expanding in that area, and move a bit higher or lower in the value chain line.

Can you see that everything I said is happening to you? Lol. It is your call, bro. You either find new funds to get more sophisticated equipment to keep up with cultivating more land area, or you move up or down the value chain.

And the funny thing is that I give you only 1 year, you will pollute the new land area..lol. chemicals and fertilizers...boom. yield will not be like your first attempt. You will start thinking of expanding again. Lol. Let me get more land so that I can rest some of them. Lol.

That's the cycle of unprofitable farming.

If you are really ready to learn and you learn composting, carbon cycle, microbes, and you understand how to regenerate your land without using fertilzers, you will do wonderfully well. You will be amazed by your yield. And you will need less land area to make that profit you are targeting.

Guy! Na your farm...keep expanding...keep buying more sophicsted stuff...or keep fabricating. What I know is that it is counterproductive.

What makes a farmer who cultivates new 1 ha every month to downsize must be interesting. When you discover the truth, it shall set you free. But when you program your mind to do what you have set up to do, you will struggle for a long time.

If you know of 15 plots to 100 plots in a town near Lagos where people are already living, I am interested. The last one I saw told me to pay 1 million per plot for 11 plots. After asking my lawyer, the real value of the area is far less...so I didn't even bother to talk to the owner again... lol. I am presently in touch with someone else and this place is even in a more civilised place than that of 1million...looking at 700k to 800k per plot... Still I am keeping my options open. What I know now is why I don't mind buying 15 plots, fence the land, build a bungalow there, and create a sustainable garden. If I cultivate 1 acre tomato there, it will be massive... I mean massive harvest. And I will not touch any chemical or salty fertilizer. Never again. Then, listen, I will retail everything. Yes. I will. That's the way to make it big. Let me open your eyes.

If I cultivate 10,000 tomatoes... I will harvest 2kg from each plant consistently every month for a minimum of 7 months while other farmers harvest for 2 mths max...and boom... they are cultivating more land areas. That is 5 tons per week. If I give agents, I will make around N6m sales after removing agents' commission. But if I retail the tomatoes, I'm making 10 million to N12.5million per week. Lol. And it will be on less than 3 plots of land. Lol. For you and other farmers, you may need 10 acres to achieve this. Lol.

Of course, I don't expect to hit this straight up. Why? I need to train my workers, and I know they aren't stable. Though I have the potential to make such, I won't start like that. Not because of me, but I am dealing with unpredictable humans.

When you know the truth, it shall set you free.

betabread:
How can i get this 3"

Why are you bringing equipment to this discussion? Only you as a small scale farmer who claimed to not have access to fund. Ha ba! 3 inches of filter again. That huge thing. Where does this come in? We aren't talking about equipment....but you keep bringing the discussion up....planter, tractor, and now a huge filter. ha ba na. Do you want to start testing my ability? And why do you need 3 inches when you are not into something big? You talked about the high cost of equipment, and I showed you how you can even lower your cost, yet, you just want to keep increasing your expenses. You claimed that you would rather expand by using more land. And then, you are using a more sophisticated irrigation system. Lol. You will soon dig many boreholes for your small production. And then, you will pay more for fuel. All in the name that you cannot retail the little products you have.

I think you have made up your mind on what exactly you want to do. My posts aren't for you...and I am now sure that we have different ways of brainstorming issues. I respect your opinion and view... but I want to draw the curtain here.

I wish you well while you expand your land area....while you buy a more sophisticated irrigation system....more petrol...and you should be ready to tackle theft and herdsmen.

Take care bro!

ActiveFarms:
What would you attribute the breakdown of the farm machineries to ?

If you investigate the matter, the owner resides abroad or a civil servant/politician who looted public funds. The owner knows anothing about agric and got a consultant to set up the farm. The consultant made the owner buy those equipment so he could have his commission on them. He made sure the owner spent well. That's it. They are many here who try to do this. They start posting pictures to deceive potential looters. Anyway, one thief raids another thief. That's the story. Shikena!

Abroad guys are smarter now. They don't invest foolishly like that anymore.

betabread:
I understand ur point of view but please hear practicing farmers out......

I don't want to override this group and hijack the content for my benefit, and it is the reason I want to limit myself. "Practising farmers" is just a term. I would have preferred you to use "Successful Farmers". So, you have listed challenges. To be successful, you must navigate these hurdles or jump over them. Meaning, you face them...battled with them...or you simply avoid them. So, there is a pattern for you to be successful.

Agriculture is gold when u get it right but you will have to provide all infrastructure by yourself, imagine getting tractors, planters harvester and many other implements by yourself, when are you going to make the profit.

Exactly my point here, sir. A farmer who can not afford these things you have mentioned here should see himself as a small-scale farmer. No do above yourself. And when you are a small-scale farmer, use what works. A small-scale farmer should not expand land area farming because it will cost him more. The right strategy is to work on making consistent little cash. This is the proven strategy.

I am also a small-scale farmer. In fact, most greenhouses are small-scale farmers too, but that doesn't mean they are not making millions.

As a small-scale farmer, you avoid those high costs. So, how do you make money? You move into a higher level on the value chain of production. Meaning that you move closer to the consumers. Either you process your produce into a raw material closer to the final consumer or sell directly to the consumer. The idea is that the closer you get to the consumers, the more profit you have. If you don't move closer, some other people will fill in the gap and make more money. Therefore, you spend less time on the farm because you cultivate less area of land, you pay less to workers, and you even have more time to focus on your business.

I can still put it to u dat the way we farm in Nigeria is way cheaper than modern Agrìcultural methods because there are no infrastrcture......The best infrastructure avaialable is the yearly pay laborers.

Nope. You farm that way because you have not seen the reason to change. When you see another style work well, you will abandon the old style.

For me, the main reason I am not active presently is security because I will have to secure everything. Everyone has challenges he faces. Setting up CCTV, election of fence and gate, solar street light, etc. are additional expenses for me. And then, do you think I will set up such inside a bush? Nope. I would rather have it where there are houses already. Meaning that I am going to buy a plot at an extremely high price. And I am not complaining. I am just working towards it. You may not see the reason why I have to do this. But I can easily do all that I am saying here in my compound while it will be hard for you in your open 20 acres in the bush.

My point is that you have to understand the challenges at hand and then formulate a strategy to overcome it. If I didn't have the means to do this, believe me, I would still profer a solution.

The issue is that you don't plan from farm to market, but you start from market to farm. If you understand this sentence, you have made it already. All of you plan from farm to market, which is wrong. The OP of this thread rushed into a farm and then got hooked with the market, which is the first assignment he was supposed to solve.

Your market determines how you farm. Period. Fix marketing first.

Example Once You buy a tractor or planter, u get locked into some hidden cost that only becomes apparent during operations like mechanic, spares and training of operators. DO U REALLY Want to bear this head ache....., people that provide tractor service 4 example want to only plough, many dont have harrows and just a handful have ridgers....

Where will u get roadside tractor mechanic to service your stuff....

Dat is just for example

If my market demands me to produce like 20 tons per week, I may consider using a tractor. The means, I will cultivate around 3 acres every week. So, my tractor will keep working. But if my market is lower than that, why should I ever bother to go for it? I will stay small.

I already know that tractor mechanics are not reliable, so why should I look for their service. Of course, I will not try to face the problem but avoid it. So, if I don't have my own tractor and have a reliable engineer to work on it, I will not go big. It is very simple. I would rather avoid the problem.

Infrastructure is very expensive and u better know what you are doing else u get a pile of junk metal

This is why you need to count the cost of your production before starting. This is where writing a business plan is a necessity. If you decide to use high cost equipment, make sure you use it and produce massive yield so that it is going to be worth its purchase.

I farm close to an ultramodern crop farm divided into paddocks that bought all new John deere machines from tractors down to combined harvesters, now the place lies in ruins, they only cultivate cassava as i speak with u with mostly manual labor.......
The machines are all decaying to scrap, they now go out to rent tractors way less powerful than what they have

There are many foolish people like this. They did not write a good plan before starting. That's just it. Period.

Try and hear practicing farmers out, we face real problems that are solved to the best of current available infrastricture

This sounds like justifying your inefficiency. This is what you are doing. I am not saying there aren't challenges, but you want to justify your weakness.

Did I write here that you should use huge equipment? Lol. You came up with it. You mentioned planter first na. Did I mention using a tractor first also? Lol.

Again...Read this paragraph...I will not repeat myself again.

An Example

Farmer A works on 3 acres. He produces dried corn. 3 months to mature, and then 1.5 months to dry. It takes longer many times. So, he could do 2 cycles per year. He needs to rest also. Yes, most of you always do a maximum of twice per year. He makes 2 bags per half a plot (your yield), so that 3 acres give 72 bags. At N85k per bag, that's N6.12 million sales. Annual sales will be N12.24 million. Shikena. Expenses and cost of production are still going to be removed.

Farmer B goes first to market and finds that he can set up a selling point and sell 100 cobs daily. Are you saying you can not arrange this? Look at it. I am spelling it out for you since it seems simple issues don't get clear easily to most of you. He needs to cultivate 600 plants per week. Tell me, if you plant every Mondays, will you not be able to space every well 600 plants? Look at it very well. One help is enough to assist and make it consistent all through the year. The cycle is just 75 days. I will not work out the rest for you...I can work everything out. It is called a business plan. I will set it in front of you. You will follow it. I will tell you the max and area you need. Of course, you may not need more than that. Look at this plan...a plot is enough for six cycles. Yes. Do you really need up to six cycles for this plan? Do you need a planter for this? Think deep na. Of course not. I am not going to work it out for you. My point here is that you work less on a farm, use less land area, and also pay less to workers. But you move focus to retailing. What is the business here with the huge tractors you have brought in again? Always finding excuses. Think deep.

If farmer B can be consistent, sales per week is N180k @ N300 per cob. Of course. He can cut into three parts and sell at N100 if the buyers want N100 worth of corn. And per annum is N8.6 million sales. This is for a selling point using a small piece of land. Very small. What stops him from having 5 points of sales and them increasing its production on the farm in consistent with his sales point. This is working from the market to the farm and not vice versa. But you all work from farm to market, and then you come here to NL crying for help.

Which option gives more profit? Which option gives more rest of mind? Which option is more efficient? Which option uses less expensive equipment?

The ball is in your court. If you choose not to investigate what I am teaching you...I am sure I am going to receive nothing less than 10 emails from silent readers who will thank me for these posts.

With what I have written here, do I sound like a non Practising farmer? Those acres you are farming, I can analyse them for you. I can set up your farm from A to Z. Do you want to talk about big farms? I don't want to start boasting here. Practising farmers ...bla bla bla. I call them inefficient farmers. Period. Working a large piece of land, buying expensive equipment are nothing. What makes you successful is first having a working business plan, then a good marketing plan. If you don't have these two items and you jump into a farm, you will crash.

Good luck to you!

Kehfie:
Thanks for providing these insights

You are welcome, madam.

It is very encouraging when one meets farmers whonare open minded, and can think deeply. The agricultural sector in Nigeria is thought to be managed by shallowed thinkers. Yes, this is how it was. But with the emergence of technology, especially statistics and data, smart minds have moved in.

Think about it. The ONLY area the world power has not got hold of is the food supply. And they are getting it right. Yes... they are. Seeds are almost out of the production of the common farmer. Gone are the days farmers produce their seeds.

Nigeria is a typical example of how food production is taken out of the reach of the common man. One day, my father sat down with me, and he wondered how Nigerians don't farm again. Obasanjo gave us Operation Feed the Nation during his time. Lol.

The irony part is that we are having an explosive population. Should farmers not increase? Guess what? Billionaires have started using tech to reduce man power on farms....genetics to create seeds and breeds. Hmmm!

If farmers who are small scales start seeing themselves as big shots, especially in Africa...it is funny. These farmers should retail their products, but they don't want to do it. Rather, they willing want to give the profit there to an agent who does not know anything about farming. Why won't the farmer be poor? He is going to work himself to madness in the bush. He thinks he is efficient, but not.

Also, here is the narrative here. The optimal production is getting 25cm by 70cm spacing and it has been documented by various papers and manufacturers. But poor farmers always find a way to justify why they can not meet up. Oh...we cannot buy planters, we can not do this...we can not do that. But even though they don't buy planters and they planted just 1/16th of a plot of land per week, they can easily get that population easily. Why? They move systematically and consistently. But these ones think they are efficient by cultivating bigger land. So, they don't have planters, and they want to cover 2 acres in a day. Come on! Is that smartness or foolishness? And the so called guy trying to be a consultant here wrote bold that "everyone knows it is not possible to get 20 by 70" spacing. Damn, that nonsense. He and his inefficient team are the ones who can not achieve such because they are blind and poor in the way they think. And they will NEVER get it right. Period.

These set of farmers are the ones who allowed us in this mess. Small minds that think they are big shots. They are unproductive, yet they want to position themselves as commercial farmers. Instead of them to keep the retailing area of the business and making all the money for themselves. They are their worst enemies.

I don't work with any person because I know there are many dull people in this area in Nigeria. I am not being proud here but stating the facts. When I meet a rich mind in thoughts, I align with such.

May God bring people with rich thoughts into this area in Nigeria. Honestly, it is frustrating having to engage people of such mind set everytime. Make dem go to school and learn... they won't.

I'm sorry if this touches anyone, but seriously....I pray intelligent people dominate this industry in Nigeria. We need a change.

Again, it is very encouraging to know that we still have people who can see the real issues when facts and figures are laid on the table.

betabread:
If only I could meet u in person, I will watch u try this and see how you summount the obstacles you will face

If u prevail and make fantastic profits I will copy you

Sure there are always obstacles, and they are not easily beaten. Determination and consistency do the job. At least you can see it on paper. Two people have commented that N500 is the price of a good cob of fresh corn, and they were wondering why we used N120. Lol. You have read where I wrote that sellers even cut into 2 or 3 parts to sell N100, N200, N150 worth of corn.

Again you will go far in life if you stay humble, and ready to learn. Mark my words. Why? You at least want to see how a new method is done, but this is not enough. The other guy will find it hard to succeed.

betabread:
Dont quickly call anybody Names

My goal is to farm maize intensively without fertilizers and its doable, he might just drop d lead

Farming without fertilizer is done only via biology. You cultivate either with the knowledge of chemistry or biology. And since I am in sustainability presently, biology is the way forward. I am talking about modern techniques being explored. So many papers are coming out from the United States, and since genetics is on a higher ground, things are moving very fast.[/quote]Leave him alone, and let him continue with the insults. Lol. They don't affect me in anyway. Points and evidences are what we work with. I knew he doesn't know much from his posts. And he doesn't want to learn. He feels he knows so much and wants to position himself as a consultant. Lol.

What he is proposing is already being done with cassava, some people in conjuction with their wives or an array of fufu sellers do this, one bike load of cassava daily

Not 4 me though, i love bulk money Let us just share experiences and become better

Bro, sit back and think about the whole thing. I learned from Indians nd Chinese around the world. Most local retail shops in Europe are owned by these guys. Indians are known for retailing herbs and spices. One day, I was walking in the street of Moscow and I entered this Indian shop of my friend, and I sat with his wife...she opened my eyes to the huge profit in retailing. I was like wow. Also, if you go to London, you will see Chinese and Indians in the retail businesses. I have a Chinese friend who retails, and if you see his shop. Lol. You won't understand. Sir, he bought his house in greater London. Lol. Perhaps, you need to understand the meaning of "Greater London" to understand the value of properties there. Try Google. The power of retailing is huge.

Let me tell you something. If I was selling cassva and I had 1000 ha and less of land, I would find a way to sell the finished goods myself. I would not contract it out to an agent. Go learn marketing and sales...and see how you will.triple your profit.

Under my rule, I will use agents only if I have a commercial farm. A commercial farm to me is cultivating 1,000 ha every week. Then, I can distribute to many states. This is when I will not try selling to direct consumers.

Read through my posts, and you will notice that 1 plot to even 100 plots of land, I call garden.

Poverty in Nigeria makes people think that their small business is big. No, not of course. You are doing an acre or less, and you say you want bulk money. The total sales from even an acre is not bulk money. Is it? Maybe to you...not me. If I have this way of thought, and I still promote retailing....then, it means, there is something special about it.

Anyway, I think it's about the standard of life. I'm not trying to be proud here, but I think poverty has lowered the level of the standard here.

You don't even need to see me before you do this. All you need to do is to get out and carry out your marketing research. Put your data on paper and use your data.

But if your farm is around Atan in Ogun State, you may have the opportunity to meet me probably in November this year because I might open a garden of 6 to 30 plots of land. I am presently looking at agbara, badagry, Atan.....maybe down to idiroko for such purpose. I have a project at hand, and I need to set up a new garden around that area.

Where are you based?


If the highlighted part in yellow is truly you...then, what I have written above is for someone else, and not for you. I don't share my experience and ideas with mere observers. When someone wants to learn, I am ready to teach. But when you just want me to talk solely for sharing my experience, you are on your own. Also, waiting to see someone's success before leaping out will always make you number two. I endeavour to lead.

I think I have overstayed in this thread. Time to check out, and not return.

Readers can see the reasons farmers are poor. If I had not come in, the narrative that dried corn is more profitable would have been pushed out here. And from my data, for the past 15 years, fresh corn has been consistently more profitable than dried corn in Nigeria. So, how these guys want to change the narrative beats my imagination. How can you say dried corn is more profitable? That which you waste time on the farm to dry and fresh corn would have doubled harvest just cos of the process of drying. Time is money. And if you choose to use a drying machine, think about the cost in a nation without electricity. Lol.

The Bible says that you should count your costs before embarking on a project, less you don't finish it. .

1. Farmers should stop farming blindly.
2. Writing a business plan for every project is necessary
3. The following figures are needed for all projects: 1, start up cost; 2, Expenses; 3, and Cost of Production. Then, project out: 1, Estimated Sales; 2, Estimated Profit or Loss; 3, Estimated Cash Flow; 4, Estimated Balance Sheet, and 4, Estimated Business Ratios. Learn how to write a business plan.
4. Research marketing for retailing.

Good luck to everyone

Zwooks:
Does the writing appear like that of a real farmer to you or someone who thinks straight ?

Starve the nuisance of attention. You are listening to a person that says you harvest 21,000 cobs as they ripe and sell daily. As if it's that simple the entire maize wouldn't harden

So, you still don't understand my posts? Lol. If this is what you got from my explanation, then, success is far from you. I wish you well. You definitely have an extreme low IQ..

You read everything and this is his conclusion. Hahahhaha....Shaking my head. Talking with a low IQ person is a waste of time. Good luck!

Favyoma:
I'm not a farmer or anything but how can I go to buy roasted corn and they are telling 500naira for one small corn. How come am seeing 100-120 here. This is annoying honestly

God bless you. Farmers are the ones saying its N100 to N120 because they don't know about retailing. They want to justify their weakness.

Now, using your quote for premium retailing of the data the guy projected above,

Fresh Corn cobs
21350 @ N500 gives N10,675,000 lol... Viola...

Just imagine the farmer said some of his planta don't bring good cobs and they are neglected. Lol. Just imagine using a staggering cultivation method so you dont do it all at once and pay attention to your crops. You harvest daily as you sell. Just imagine. Then, you can relax and make a very good soil preparation, use irrigation, and make sure your planting spacing is intact. Why not? Use a planter to get the job done if there is a need.

Does that price above not justify the effort? Of course, I know that no matter how bad it is, I can make huge cobs with lots of grains. Why not cut a cob into 3 or 2 to sell at 250 for one. Or if I decided to sell at 300 for a cob and I cut it into 3, that's N100 for one. Each of the 3 parts will still have more grains than the ones with scanty grains.

Farm with sense.

Thank you, bro. God bless you.

betabread:
As a farmer, no time 4 roasting or boiling corn 4 sale that time is spent monitoring how d next batch of produce will cone out ........Dried and fresh both have their time and place and a good farmer should always have produce at each season in a cycle........

Most important thing in corn is efficiency, so that at a high price point, ur revenue is turned into profit and not covering cost....

I sold at 36k april this year, and fresh corn went as high as 60k this year 1st week of june.......

Most important thing i see in corn is efficiency, how many bags can one get from a unit of land at minimum cost ....

The bolded part is why farmers are poor. In short, you are saying you don't have time to market your product yourself. So, the agents and retailers will keep raking in the real value while you keep running to the bush to make more money for them.

Bro, I won't go into the details and analysis of retailing. See, I used your figures. If I sit down with this, that same plot you make that tiny profit, I can make time 5 or more by the time I combine high production, marketing, and retailing. So that the time I spend retailing, you will spend that in the bush. "The choice is yours, and mine is mine." Lol

It's funny how you aren't saying boldly again that dried maize is the thing to do now. Lol.

You guys keep making the same mistake. You are doing less than 5 acres at a time, and you see it big. You are even complaining of low-tech planters that it is extremely expensive for you. Lol. With all the odds against you....you still see yourself doing commercial farming. I laugh out loud.

I find it also funny you think you are efficient by using more land area? Lol. OK oooo.

Oga, good luck! Just don't mislead others.