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Nigerian men and food. Lol. Dem don snatch many destinies cos of food. Chai!

Eagba:
Bros I think you can read something on cockroach farming in look for a aerated container or drum do it in it n feed your birds some cockroaches to supplement their feed

If you can learn cockroach production without causing a major disease outbreak, contain them to just your production site, and eradicate them all when you decide to stop, go for it. Also, treat this as their main meal rather than a supplement. The millet, corn, and soy feed that people throw around here is nonsense. Then you find a clean energy source in their feed. The person you are asking doesn't know about it. Go ahead with your research, bro.

If you can do it for only the chicken you eat at home, and eggs you eat...and you can add organic veggie...Trust me...you will live longer than the average Nigerian.

Goodluck bro!

And what exactly has her lamentation achieved? Lol. Let her not go start her harden and produce her food. Na hunger go finish her..lol.

marhoinspire:
I simply raise mine for personal use not for commercial
I don't like eating boilers. I prefer organic chicken 🍗

There are too many misconceptions about healthy, organic, and natural eating lifestyles.

What is actually organic? Of course, broilers' production can be organic, and so many threads have demonstrated it on NL. There is so much to it. Though these threads aren't 100% organic too...and infact, they still use commercial feed, which is bad. But a few farmers don't even use commercial feed for their broilers and layers. We just need to ask questions. That's all.

And let me tell you,....most of you guys doing this so-called local breed give them waste food made with chemicals. Lol. You still end up giving them chemicals to eat, and you brag its organic. Lol. Waste rice filled with bad raw materials used to make commercial feed... Some give them wheat shaft... filled with gluten. Lol. Even corn sharf with accumulated antinutrients. Honestly, I feel for those local birds cos I have raised them too for meat, and breeding. Feed them well and they will grow well too...not like broilers. But you guys don't feed them well, and you give them runts filled with antinutrients that make their health worse.

I am not trying to bash anyone, but putting facts straight here. I have been seeing this "pride" here on NL that "we eat local chickens and we eat organic", but they are still feeding these birds with chemicals in the so called "runts" they call feed they are served daily.

But I have to say this....no matter the runts or bad the food given to these birds, it can not never be worse to a hundredth of what commercial broilers give their birds. So, it is why I don't say much, but really, it's time to educate people. It's not farming in this case, but education in food and nutrition, sustainability, and wellness. Too much to learn.... I hope we can change.

michlins:
I cannot remember the last time I bought a crate of eggs. Since you people wants to suffer people who are already suffering, you will have to eat your eggs

Lol. So hilarious.

The people who want to cause more sufferings are not farmers because farming input is so expensive
and prices keep skyrocketing daily.

Let me tell you the truth, you are the one suffering it. Malnutrition is near you. Even eggs are N7k per crate, Nigerians will still buy it. Really, I don't know why this OP opened this thread because farm gate prices are already above N4k. He is just trying to sell his service. Bro, so .....you can see why I said your response is hilarious.

Farmers will always sell their products, do you hear me? Na you dey suffer am. Vote wisely next time. If raw material prices are friendly, food prices will come down.

Eh Ya!!! E don tey you chop eggs..chai! Yhat na poverty ooo. Na you dey suffer am more. If you do no chop eggs, I know say meat is far from you. Lol. Omo...see kwashoko loading....lol.

Vote wisely next time..if not... you will not see water to even buy. Lol.. Hahahha! Na you go chop the air you dey breathe out cos the hunger that is about coming....you won't survive it. Farmers will always have food.

My advice is that you become a gardener too and produce your food. But please, learn ONLY organic gardening. If you follow these farmers here using chemicals....you will pay with your health. Las Las...55 yrs, you go kpeme. Personally, I grow everything I eat. My poultry meat ...no antibiotics and vaccines. In fact, the feed I give the ones I eat personally is special....no grains....the birds I eat don't consume grains. Why? Grains fed livestock na health issues complications. It is still far better than the ones produced with antibiotics and vaccines....but if you want to take your health really seriously, don't touch grain-fed meat and eggs. Then, produce your veggies and roots. You can still grow some fruits, too.

I know you will NEVER do it. So, enjoy your hunger in peace. Stop complaining....open an organic garden, or enjoy your hunger and malnutrition in peace.

Lol. Guess what? I enjoy mocking your post. Next time, vote wisely.....better still...learn organic gardening.

Lolllllll....llllloooolllll. lol.

Personally. RCCG is not a church I can attend. The way their pastors are appointed is something else. Osinbajo went into politicis and dis not represent the body of Christ excellently.

Anyway, Adeboye will be dragged more. He brought it on his head.

Interesting..

The Finidi I know ...it was hard to believe what happened. Even during the days of cabals in the eagles, we didn't hear anything about him. He's always a cool headed guy, but you can not replace him. Meaning he had his way to not offend anyone and did not betray anyone. And we saw the result....he had a successful career. This is why some people placed the achievements of this young lad and compared it with his. Finidi na baba. Ajax and Betis can not forget him.

Just take a look at how they said he didn't rush after getting the right info they were shopping for a coach even after he had just had a meeting with them. That's backstabbing him... but he waited for 2 days. 2 gaddam days before reacting.. and he handed his resignation letter maturely. So, you wonder why Finidi is successful.

Listen, Finidi is going to higher places. I see him working as an assistant to a foreign coach. Honestly, working under a super coach is the best route for anyone aspiring to be one of the best coaches in the world. Even Amunike is dulling himself. The only person who seems to understand it is Olishe, but he is not getting it right with his style of.handlimg matters. Coaching is a different ball game....

Like I said, the best coach I am expecting in the nearest future is Messi. I am sure so many people are on the line to pick that guy up.

Finidi has got the right attitude to excel as a coach, and I think he needs to only improve his tactical approaches to matches. I think he needs to find one of these super world coaches to work under. Arteta did it under Pep, and he isn't regretting it. Mourinho worked under one of the best. Also....who else? You gat to work with a super coach and tap so much before you can become one yourself.

This is a very delicate career. Honestly, becoming a coach is super hard, but moving to the top of that career is crazily super hard.

Both Finidi and Victor are under pressure, and these two could have worked together excellently. Finidi is a great guy.....anyone can tell you that....and Victor too is. I hope they can settle this issue between themselves.

This bill is a double-edged sword. If we can control corruption, it will be the best decision made for Nigeria; however, if we allow corruption to flourish, Naija will be doomed.

Very interesting. Papa is a self-proclaimed apostle, and so is his son. People no longer understand what the apostleship position entails. Una blatantly degrades Christianity. Shame!

We reap what we sow. Regardless of how you portray MKO as the hero of Nigerian democracy, he reaped what he sowed.

You do not fund military takeovers out of self-interest and expect them to always be loyal to you. You do not just make money from sources you can not reveal and expect life to go on as usual while people suffer as a result of your greed. You do not just loot a country's wealth and expect the souls you starve to not seek vengeance.

We reap what we sow. Shikena.

abbacool:
My plan is to have 20 hens and 2 roosters making it a total of 22 local chickens, this hen can lay averagely say 8 eggs per hen. So let do the maths
Let say 8(egg) * 20(hens) = 160

160 x 4 (Number of time they will lay and hatch in a year) =640 hens first year.
Sell about 540 at say 5,000 and keep 100 to add to your farm. Repeat the process Am sure with that much hen you can start competing with someone doing boilers.

Note: you can sell after 6 months and some of the children will start laying from 4 or 6 months, also if you separate the chick from the hen after 2 weeks of brooding it will increase the number time in a year it will lay and hatch.

540 chickens at N5,000 will give 2.7 million naira for a year. Hmmm! We haven't removed the cost of production because there will definitely be. And you say this can compete with broilers? Are you serious now?

Well the new minimum proposed wage is N62k per month, so, it can be something. It really can make one earn like an upper working class.

Lesson learned here is that civil servants are just underpaid and they are slaves. Lol.

You can't compare this to broilers when one has the market and gets it right. It is possible to make over N2,000 profit per broiler. Now imagine one has a market for 1000 birds every week which is possible. That's 2 million naira profit per month. The issue is that most farmers here cannot do it because they are just starting. I know farmers who are still doing it. And let's say it even 500 birds one does every month, that's still something.

No matter how you see it, broilers are for meat production, but one must have the source of managing the business. Poverty is the reason NL farmers want to make people think local chickens are good to go with.

Yes, it will give some profit...I know...but let us be serious about it. That's a trap to keep one in the same spot financially. There is no growth innthe business template.

For sure, it is a temporary way out in this present economy for most people. Well.... maybe people doing it now are smart after all. Hmmm!

abbacool:
Local hen can lay 6-7 eggs a week and can lay 5 to 20+ eggs before stopping to start sitting on it.
I don't think they can lay continuously without stopping because after laying for sometime they naturally start sitting on it, even if you were to be removing the eggs it will eventually stop laying.
If you feed them well they can start laying again after 2 to 3 weeks depending on the hen.

Eventually, I have checked it up....it is actually an hormonal shift in broody hen, so they will eventually stop at a point. They can become aggressive too.

So, I am trying to really understand why anyone thinks these southern local hens make sense for profit making. Lol. They are meant for meat production, but they can be so tiny even after 12 solid months of eating consistently. Anyway,it is profitable for someone who does not want to be responsible for them. But these Birds cannot fetch anyone good money. Seriously? I think it is for family consumption.

I think I need to smile more at local chicken threads because now I have confirmed that most of them actually either aren't smart, or just want to waste their time, or just want to make the smallest profit from poultry without spending anything.

Three ways:

1. For enthusiastics and personal consumption - Local chickens because they are broody in nature.
2. For selling eggs - Layers
3. For selling meat - broilers.
4. For both meat and eggs - noilers....and I think it should be more for personal consumption too.
5. For wellness - Then, one can consider local chickens and noilers to make some serious profit.

What is worth doing at all is worth doing well. The ONLY smart thing to do is to find a way to tweak their feed, reduce the cost while production is still optimal. Only smart people can do this, and this is the reason eggs producers have declined recently because most cannot just cope. They lack the know-how of feed cost reduction.

Slightlyredneck:
I want to train them, at home.

You will buy day old birds. You can chat with me..

truthhurts2:
Firstly,Let me call your attention to something... using local hen for eggs production might be a little difficult. If she's laying and you're picking up she will go on exile, laying somewhere hiding. The next time you will see her will be with her chicks.

Now, let's ASSUME, that she keeps laying the spot and you're picking it up daily, local hens will give you 6-7 eggs per week, this is because it takes 24-26 or7 hours for a complete formation of an egg.

In as much as you're feeding her well, she will give you maximum production trust me, but that's if you're only using her for eggs production, and don't forget that it's an assumption...

MODIFIED: I think starting from day old, it takes them 16- around 18 weeks before they start laying eggs

OK. Thanks...you are saying they can compete with layers. That's interesting.

I know they will find a way to keep their eggs if you keep picking them. I think someone needs to really try it out. Put them in a confinement and feed the hens very well...and let's see the number of eggs she can lay.

Thanks for the responses.

truthhurts2:
Yeah, I get you... But without mating there's nothing like fertilize eggs.

To your question... It depends on how quick the chicks are ween from her. From my experience, it takes nothing less than 6 week before she go back to laying, and it takes 20-21 days to hatch

6 weeks to return
20 days to lay 20 eggs
21 days to hatch....that's approx 75 to 90 days.

That's like 4 to 5 times (at most 6 times) of laying 5 to 20 eggs. So, she lays around 30 to 120 eggs per year.
Of course 120 eggs is an exaggerated figure..lol.

Let's look at it in this direction....let's say I don't need the hen to hatch...so, she just needs to lay eggs only. There is no need to hatch...no need to take 6 weeks to return to laying...all she needs to do is lay eggs and you pick them up and hatch.

Tell me your guess...how many eggs can she lay within a period of time? Just say it the way you can...I will find a way to interpret it further sir.

You are the first person who has tried to answer these questions. Others just cannot. So, I know that they don't understand what they are presently doing. Lol. How can one not have a data to use to make his business progressive? Lol. I smile at times at many threads. Very porous. But one just has to keep it low. Otherwise...hmmm! There is no way you use data and don't operate effectively. You just need it...not just jumping blindly into business and production.... and wasted time and energy

oliverwrites:
I think you have misunderstood me big time but first let me appreciate you for this comment. I am glad and grateful that you bore your mind. Some other people will say "what's my business" therefore defeating the purpose of this thread.

Let me explain my intentions better.

I have not wasted 5m just as you seem to think. The 5 million mentioned is to try my hands on Cassava farming through a big brother ( someone I absolutely trust ). The agreement is in place and we have gotten 15 acres ( on lease ) but we have not even planted just in the process. I came up with that idea as a way of helping a friend/brother as he recently lost his job. He intends to return profit to me but I don't have my mind fixed on it even though the returns he brings ( which I will return back to him ) will determine if I will go ahead with him for my bigger plan which is animals. I will go into farming regardless.

Re not expressing what I need - the reason I opened this thread is to hear people's opinion about how viable goats and rams farming is. And get some tips on how to make a success out of it.

I am not rushing anything, I have a plan for 8-12 months. I am talking to tons of people and borrowing ideas. I arrived at 20m because it is an amount that if lost I won't end up in the hospital. I work hard for my money and have no interest in losing it but having grown up in a farm in Benin republic ( I am Beninese ), I know you can't win it all and know the chances of losing the money is high, but I go take the risk. I believe big risk is big reward ( I don't bet though).

Re people scamming me - forget it, there is zero chance of me contacting anyone from here. If I am intelligent enough to build my business from 0 to 8 figure monthly, sure you must believe I have some intelligence. Especially considering my field - SEO search engine optimization.

May GOD not catch us, the chances of me getting scammed is not high. Trust me.

This is a very interesting response.

Here are facts from your response:

1. You will definitely go into farming.
2. You understand the level of what you want to do, but you still don't know how to get there.
3. You can afford to lose N20 million without breaking down.

And here is a guess....if you can afford to lose N20 million, then you can afford N100 million to set up a farm. OK....Above N100 million will shake you. Lol.

Bro... let me tell you a mistake you have made, and please correct it fast. You put the whole cassava farm in the hands of the guy because you trust him. Hmmmm! You are the one who misunderstood us here. Myself and the other person understand what we are saying. See...the guy paying you back is not the issue here. You are just an investor with what you wrote. An investor does not know a "s.hit" about the business but is only interested in the regular peanut out of it. But you see yourself as a farm enthusiastic. Lol. In that cassava deal... you are an investor.

The disadvantage to this issue is that the guy you helped will easily not allow you into the business. And even he allows you....you are still at a disadvantage. But what I like is that you said you helped a guy. The question is that will the guy help you in return after he is comfortable? Will he not want to keep positioning you in the investment level and not show you the details? Na there wahala go burst out...and it will turn to something else. Why? You didn't have a real business of investment structure in this thing.

Therefore, I will advise you to still look for a way to let him know that you are going into processing later. Let me borrow you an idea. You will know if the guy is open if you do this....tell him you want to go into processing garri so you can store and sell gradually. But first get to know the price of cassava...and let him understand that you are buying all. I mean all from him. Don't worry... you will easily get the details of equipment you need to process cassava to garri. Just watch your so-called trusted friend. I will not say much. Then, you will understand us very well.

The other issue is that I see that you aren't into small-scale something....so, Nairaland agric section is not for you. Trust me....this section can not give you the answer you need because extreme subsistence farming is preached here. Don't get me wrong bro..guys are raking millions with it. So, subsistence is not bad if you understand it. I mean, some make more profit than many medium scaled businesses. If you don't me, go check out how farmers who understand tomato timing are "balling" presently. Those guys are smiling as they are reading this post. Lol.

So, I think you should look into the medium scaled template of livestock production. You may look into innovation and modern ways of production.

Trust me...all the areas of livestock are very good, but dairy production is a serious business. Recently, while talking to someone I met on NL, local goat production is a hidden treasure because the market is so massive in some areas in Naija people don't know. The only issue is production.

Here is what I would do...actually something I had in mind. A livestock farmer is a grass and legumes farmer first. Forget about zero grazing. Anyone who tells you to do zero grazing is asking you to keep buying feed from him.

Sir...the journey is not what you can rush oooo. So, 6 to 12 months na "rush rush." Lol. You dey hear me? Na rush rush. You will crash. The other person who replied you also said the truth.

OK... let me just give you an overview:

Dairy: a consultant here said local cows give 5 litres daily. Yes... correct. and he said you can improve on it...but he failed to give you the litres you can get. Lol. The breed he wants to use can give 30 litres daily, but under our climate... you will need to do a lot to make it give you around 20 litres. Of course, 40 litres is even possible with full breed. So, what they do is to cross breed....the question is that ...how many liters can you get with optimum management? What do you do? Is it worth it? See...he will want to sell the sperm of the male...and na money. Do you know if his bull is full breed or not? But personally, I will never purchase any semen from Nigeria cos I don't trust the breed to be full. I'm not saying there aren't available ones here. I will import the semen myself...and do the insemination here. So, you need to understand these things. And you need to get a very good AI expert. Sir, it is not about knowing where to buy, how to buy, but knowing who also to work with. E get "why" many of us go all the way to learn this thing ourselves. Personally, I have supported friends and colleagues to S.A. and US to study this thing. Still, many of them disappointed me. Lol. E get why na. Not 6 months course oooo. So, relax, bro. We know what we are saying. You rush in... you rush out and lose your N500 million.

Listen, Dangote is a man to study. He takes his time to understudy projects. My thing to you again is that...that 20 million naira you have should be taking like 2 billion naira you can't lose. Guide it with all your strength so as to make things work out. Yes, I know you can not feel it if you lose it... but this approach is a failure from the start.

Use this N20 million to learn:

1. Grass and legumes production for livestock
2. Making hays and sillage
3. Breeding local breeds ....combine all. Goats, sheep, and cattle
4. Understand land acquisition and partner with stakeholders around your farm.
5. Understand working with technocrats. Know who you need.

Question: Do you see yourself learning the above in 8 to 12 months? Lol!!! Don't rush. Relax. I'm telling you to make money while learning.

Guy...the livestock business especially cattle rearing is still inntje hands of the Fulanis. If lur people have got it right, it will be saturated like poultry. There was a tike poultry business was gold here. People know absolutely nothing about it. If you.see anyone who understand cattle production....the person will be extremely rich in this Nigeria. There are...but they are very few...and they don't come out. They won't even mentor or teach you. Many of them learned it by themselves. Just know that anyone into consultancy is either a worker in one of the few successful farms or trying to raise cash for himself also. They mostly are motivated by the money they are looking for. They aren't interested in your growth. But if you meet a real consultant....the fellow is interested in your growth. E get why we say...stop looking for ideas and sit down with something...do pilots.

While doing the above, you start learning about innovation and achieving optimum production. What breed do I need to get? Where do I get them from? And bla bla bla. How big should I make it. Of course, you have data already to work with in regard to what I have described above.

So, this is a way to spend your N20 million so you don't lose it. And if you lose it, you will learn so much that you know what not to do...but I can beat my chest to it that....it is extremely hard to lose it except you have a sudden disaster, theft, or something strange.

If you want to put this N20 million in the hands of a trusted friend again....na you sabi. Yes, I know you cannot feel it...but na you still sabi. Oga...find another way to run your livestock business and keep it away from this trusted friend. This is my best advice for you. Again...test him with the processing route and see if he passes the test. You need to test him for at least 2 productions which will take around 3 years before you can really say....Intrust this person. Person wey never plant cassva is who you trust. OK ooo.

If I were you, I would contact the other person and ask for a template of goat housing so I get it right. I know she can direct you to where to get good breeds and assist you without collecting kobo. You don't need a consultant. Good people are here to help you if you want to learn, bro. Consultants don't know this thing ooo...you have to navigate your way through. Consultants na chop to survive oooo.

If you want to use consultsnts, then go Dangote Way and employ abroad guys. Can you afford to pay N50 million for the initial consultation? Lol. Can you? You wanna consult Delloite or any big four to get you the right agro guy, they will...but na money and they will deliver. But all these consultants here...lol....May God help us.

Some guys in the US noticed that their cows always roam about the boundaries of their farm where there aren't green grasses. Why? These cows reluctantly eat green grasses after visiting the farm boundaries. Lol. E get why....these are issues consultants don't know. When you grow your grasses well, your cows will enjoy them... but when you don't know how to grow them...wahala dey. Tell me how many livestock experts are grasses and legumes growers? Start reasoning, sir. They will ask you to keep buying hay and silage....and then... you will pay vets millions. That's what they actually want you to do. They want you to pay them well. You will inject your cow wella.

So, if you want to keep fattening consultants, then go the consultant route.

1. If you are rich like Dangote......employ real consultants...dedicate like 50 to 200 million naira for consultancy. Of course, you do it as big as you want this way.

2. If you can not do the above, then learn the rope. To learn the rope, start small and grow big. To learn the rope...N20 million is too big to just want to throw away. I won't discuss this further with such a person with such a mentality.

3. If you are going into livestock... keep in mind... you will learn crop and livestock. It is a long rope.

4. You have the big picture on your desk... but you start with local breeds first. You will make serious money as you make progress...Trust me. You will be glad you go this route.

Again...if you are rich, then, number 2 to 4 will bore you. Go for it like a real business, man. Go all out...get real consultants and get it done.

If you have any further questions....feel free to ask.

truthhurts2:
Let me get this straight, how do you want to be obtaining the eggs, through feeding of layers feed or mating from the Cock?

Lol!

Hens don't lay eggs because of mating, but they lay fertilized eggs after mating. The criteria for hens laying eggs are: age, light, nutrition, and health. Roosters are only meant for making eggs fertilized. Lol!

If you understand the above, you can start seeing why free range in Nigeria might mean the hens are less productive than what they should.

OK...let me find a simpler way to ask you the question...from your experience...

1. If a hen hatches some eggs today, how long before he lays another set of eggs?

wealthyplaces:
Thank you sir for the detailed analysis. In every business there are risks and I'm ready to go through the stages but I don't want to make avoidable mistakes therefore I need to learn from experienced hands. Like you suggested I'll start with native hens and cross breed with broiler cock. My target is Xmas sales so, for now I'll start from producing chicks... and then learning other breeds and methods you talked about. Thank you.

My advise is that you don't breed the first time, and it's not advisable to breed native with commercial broiler. Just buy cockrel and Mix with noiler from an honest reseller. Buy day old and keep them till December in free range. This is what many people do, and I suggest you go via the route.

Just don't attempt to hatch noiler eggs since you don't have the parents.

truthhurts2:
Ones they started laying they do it consecutively till the day they decided to stop and start sleeping on it. So, it's every day laying, though, their eggs is never as big as the layers but more quality than it. So if you don't mind the size, they are good for eggs production.

Bro...let's say one does not want them to brood or hatch and one has an incubator, how many eggs can one hen lay in a year? This is my question. Give me an estimation...and show me the maths amd logic behind your answer.

truthhurts2:
What are your questions ⁉️

I'm still trying to get the maximum number of eggs they can lay.

For example, layers start with around 3 eggs per week. At the peak, they lay 6 and start declining. So, I figure out 5 to 5.5 eggs per week so that layers give 286 eggs per year. And of course it should be over 300 sef.

So, could you make an estimation of the number of eggs they can lay per week, per month, or per year? If not that much, then the focus should be meat production like broilers. But then, my fear is their sizes.

My friend, no one... absolutely no one has been able to answer my questions. All they post is that local breeds are profitable when they have not survived a year in the business. With 3 months max, you will know if broilers production is for you. And layers already have a template on the ground.

I agree. I don't know all... and here are the questions I like to find answers to. Kindly help out.[/quote]

truthhurts2:
You don't rubbish other people's opinions, I'm entitled to mine as you are to yours.

It's not my intention. No vex if you are annoyed. Perhaps I should have used another way to express my view.

And who told you that you will have to wait for 6 months before they start laying 🥚? I bought mine at a very little age (not even to growers level) and they start laying within 3 months. You might know a lot, but you don't know all, the earlier they have the presence of a cock among them the better and also, they can sometimes go as far as laying 20-plus eggs (that depends on her previous generations).

I don't claim to know all. And hey... if you get this...its impressive.

I'm still trying to get the maximum number of eggs they can lay.

For example, layers start with around 3 eggs per week. At the peak, they lay 6 and start declining. So, I figure out 5 to 5.5 eggs per week so that layers give 286 eggs per year. And of course it should be over 300 sef.

So, could you make an estimation of the number of eggs they can lay? If not that much, then the focus should be meat production like broilers. But then, my fear is their sizes.

My friend, no one... absolutely no one has been able to answer my questions. All they post is that local breeds are profitable when they have not survived a year in the business. With 3 months max, you will know if broilers production is for you. And layers already have a template on the ground.

I agree. I don't know all... and here are the questions I like to find answers to. Kindly help out.

Cc: wealthyplaces

Slightlyredneck:
Please I need quail birds. Where are you located and how much will you sell

Live and already dressed birds are transported to various parts of Nigeria, so location is not an issue here.

Do you want to purchase quail birds for consumption or start your own home quail production? There are two sides to it. I need to know so that I can properly educate you before you make your decision.

condensedmilk:
😂

When a BACTERIA is good for the body the result is from fermentation and when it's bad for the body the results is from rotten/decaying food.

So we can as well say that there are good VIRUS that should be injected into our body!



You lack exposure

Illiteracy at the extreme highest peak. Chai! How can this person pick the right presidential candidate for Nigeria? The percentage of IQ like this in Nigeria is over 95%. Out of the 5% with brain, 4.59% don japa cos it's frustrating to co-exhibit with someone with this kind of post.

And he boldly wrote, I lack exposure. This is where I laughed. Mehn!

I will help you, sha. Let me expose you a bit ....this is if your brain can comprehend it.

Can you use Google? Cos your IQ seems low. Anyway, let me assume you can not use it. So, find someone who can Google well. Chai...I need to explain what Googling is? Nope. A beg ....just find someone. Tell the person to Google "Probiotics."

Read everything it brings out. I hope your illiteracy can be reduced. I doubt you will do it because you don't like studying or even reading. Na your type dey read only headlines on NL and post rubbish.

Goodluck!

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You even chose "condensed milk" as your moniker. Lol. You Don die ooo. Chai. It is no surprise that the average Nigerian life expectancy is 53 years. This one may not reach 40 sef.

Here are selected responses to posts that filled with illiteracy.

I have been advising people to start gardening to survive. Hmmm

lonelydora:
We will cook it o. It's better than dying of hunger. Even Banga is not cheap either.

Don't pray to experience painful death. You will pray to die of hunger. Cancer is painful. You are warned. It is your life...feel free to die as you wish. Goodluck!

redtdundi:
What should people eat if they can't afford? Should we eat our children or eat you?

Foolish question. Eat your poo na. Lol. And if you can....eat your children. Next time...vote wisely.

condensedmilk:
But people consume fermented fruit/foods called alcohol.

Infact, some foods/seeds are deliberately left to decay before it can be consumed.


The doctor just dey imagine things on him own.

Ignorance at the highest peak. Lol.

Fermented food contain only healthy microorganisms that aid digestion and food absorption. Mehn! Go better school oooo. Guy. You.are digging your six feet. Leave your food to decay na. Use your dictionary well and understand the difference between fermentation and decay. Chai. Illiteracy at its peak.

Kenneth4u205:
I don't think any fungi will survive inside frying oil . Just use the tomato to make stew

Dey play. Keep eating your rotten tomato. When you contact that strain that can survive high heat, you.don jam am. And even the toxins produced are enough to do the damage...and heat doesn't remove that. Na your die.. so,.keep eating them.

Riskymarvelous:
Is not only Cancer is Casablanca idiot the tomatoes our forefathers and our foremothers have been eating without any sign of cancer come to my village and look something they are still there Kampe you will see 134yrs of age without any dissease werey oloribuku you can tell your people who used to collect injections every 24hours to survive

Na you be the illiterate. Your village people dey chop rotten tomatoes? Lol. People just want to die young. Congrats bro. And the way people interpret posts and words...did he say you shouldn't eat tomatoes? See your life...going to better school na scam...right...you.will pay with your health. Mark my words.

Pat081:
you talk right,do Doctor know what he eat has tin tomato he went to wedding party they give him rice did he know the typy of tomato 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅 they use he is not talking to Nigeria of today

Because of the party jollof rice eaten sparingly, you want to justify your suicide mission. Continue!

If you eat the worst food sparingly, the good food you eat will flush them out. If you are a visitor in a friend's place, you don't ask for.the ingredients used...except you have an allergy that you inform them ahead of. You eat what you are served, return to your house and put in antioxidants and flush the bad ones out fast.

Go better school bro....its not late.

madjune:
AcTHIEF.

Can Sanwo Olu ever get real and stop wearing the white man's suit?

It's better he wears his native buba attire and not look like some unnamed primate with asparagus-like shoulder tucked inside a pot.

Wow!

Go force him wear it na. Lol. So, you don't look like the same primate with asparagus-like shoulder tucked inside a pot with your native attire? Some even use walking sticks like old men....lol. Some put on hats and caps.....lol. All sort of inconvenient additions.

You need help. Go get it.

wealthyplaces:
I am inspired by this thread to start something new in poultry business though in small scale. Please how do I go about it? I have a small space in my backyard in a rented apartment. What do I buy? From what I've read so far, I intend selling for meat and eggs.

Please I need inputs. How much is the startup cost on a minimum.

First, you need to learn. The cost of feeding is extremely high, and it continues to rise. So, if you are not very good, you will not make a profit. So, it is best to start small with no intention of selling in order to learn everything thoroughly. Alternatively, you can sell with some initial losses. If you can do this, you have the ability to learn.

Eggs are easier to sell than meat, so you may want to think about it now. Meat used to be the better option, but it is difficult to sell these days, except around Christmas.

You will purchase day-old broiler chicks for meat, and there are several types. You need to know which one to buy for your market. Also, your cage must be in good condition. You can buy day-old eggs as well, but you will not be able to produce eggs until 5 months. As a result, you must continue to feed them for another 5 to 6 months before producing anything. You can, however, buy some that have been grown for three to four months. It is extremely risky, but people do it anyway. I would not do it, which is why I have to sell meat to support myself because it is a six-week cycle.

The question is, how do you intend to sell your meat? At what price? Go find out. If you can sell whole processed chicken for 4,000 per kg, you can profit by N2,000 per bird if you do not pay salaries. As a result, you may want to budget around N3k per kg for live chicken. Analysis is for today. It changes so fast, so one must follow the market closely.

If you get into wellness and can find customers who eat organic meat, you will have a solid market. This is what you should aim for. Depending on how your product is packaged, you can sell it for between N5k and N10k per kg. You will need a solid understanding of how to raise chickens without antibiotics or vaccines. Many people are unable to do it, but this is what I do.

truthhurts2:
It depends, are you living alone in that compound? If not, will they accept it or not?

I don't know which side you are but here, a grower is sold for around 1500, I even bought mine for 1k each. So let's say at 1500, you can start with 4 ( 3 hens and 1 cock)

Why are you telling him to buy all those malnutritional birds? Why not start from day old?

Don't listen to this. Start your journey from the beginning. Learn the rope very well.
etc.

What I explained above is for broiler and layers because I don't believe in local slow birds. They produce fewer eggs, too. If you want to do free range, I prefer noiler, and you start from day old also. But if you really want to do local fowls, then you should buy some young mothers hen that are still laying very well and a cock. Start producing your chicks immediately. Why would you first buy growers....wait for like 6 mths before they start laying eggs and you start multiplying your chickens. Start the multiplication ASAP. Again....I will NEVER go for local fowl because they are not fast growing. Instead, I would rather do cross breeding if I wanted to do them. But really...I would rather do noiler for a start.

bassdow:
Hello
Please what's your definition of Breeder ?

A breeder produces day old chicks in poultry.

oliverwrites:
Hi everyone,

As part of my plan to diversify my investment, I have decided to try my hands on farming with the help of a friend who read aquaculture in the university.

My question is, are there any guides that will help me? I have checked around can't find any detailed threads on here.

I have started with 5 million on cassava ( 15 acres ) but intend to put another 20m but I prefer animal farm.

Any ideas, tips and advice will be greatly appreciated.

Is Cassava farming profitable? How about Goats, Ram and maybe pigs farming? Will 20m be good for a start? I ideally don't want to exceed this figure until at least 2 years.

Thanks in advance

I have gone through both crop and livestock management. Also, I can tell you that small-scale and large scale are two different areas. A mini-scale project can be fulfilling just as a commercial scale. With the rate of inflation in Nigeria, you are still not doing it big, which is very OK.

My issue with your post is that you aren't expressing what you need well.

First, aquaculture. Are you into it? So, what does someone who studied the subject know about cassava farming and livestock production? Are you into fish farming? And what exactly is the person who studied aquaculture doing for you or has done.

Second, you have already injected 5 million naira into cassava farming and are asking if it is profitable. This is where I realised that something is wrong. I kinda smiled. Lol.

You have 20 million naira in addition to what you have spent, but you want to go into livestock. After spending 5 million and still asking if it is profitable, you want to do livestock.

Let me tell you the truth, there is no aspect that is not profitable if you understand it. The question is how much of your time you need to invest in it.

To me, you put your destiny in the hands of a cassva consultant if truly you have spent on cassava... or you are looking for something else here without any cassava farm. And you have not learned any lesson from your mistake. If truly you have the cash and you have a cassava farm, you will lose it and even this livestock interest with your approach. You can see that a cattle consultant has quickly replied you...and more are coming. Lol. Goats, sheep, and pig consultants are going to show soon. Or even failed farmers who want to recover from there losses..lol. This is how you will start livestock, and later, you start asking if it is profitable. Lol.

That guide you are looking for is what will put you in the hands of the person who will continue from where the cassava consultant stopped. Lol. Keep looking for a guide. You hear me.

My advice is that you first ask yourself what extent you are willing to get involved. Do you want to set-up a farm and put people there while you check the farm sparingly, or you can't stay on farm, but you will really get involved and understand it all...or you want to fully get involved from A to Z so that you are the first manager on ground while there is a 2nd manager you employ, and hand over to later after stabilizing the farm so you can work on expansion or do something later.m.

After diagnosing yourself, we can talk further, and I can tell you more on.

shortgun:
A very foolish boy who's clearly exhibiting traits of foolishness and disrespect that comes with being raised by a single mother.
By the time he gets to the age of his father he will understand that men don't walk away from good women.

You need to be patient to know the real issue before passing judgement. And so, even if a man walks away from a bad woman, he doesn't have the brain to know how to take care of his son? People like you....only God will help you. Na waooo.

Humphrey Nwosu...of all people. That man... They seem to think we forgot about his role in June 12.