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[b][size=14pt]When you die, you die. You rot in sheol. QED. There is no heaven or hell. Even the garden of eden described in Genesis doesn't exist on this planet earth. The entire TANAKH (Hebrew Scriptures or Old Testament) is based on aspects of ancient Hebrew history, interspersed with ancient Mesopotamian folklore and mythologies. The New Testament contains concocted narratives whose authorships are ascribed to the Apostles to legitimise their authenticity. Of course, the veracity of John's apocalypse on the Island of Pátmos (in today's Greece) is nil. It's all unverifiable and unfalsifiable truth-claims. As such all these eschatological claims and apocalyptic promises are false ideologies meant to create false consciousness in the mind of the proletarians, explaining why religion is not only a spiritual gin, but also the opium of the masses. Africans in general and Nigerians in particular need to allow the light of enlightenment to shine upon them so they can be released from the shackles of religion which still leaves Africa a dark continent.[/size][/b]

[b][size=13pt]When will this zoo, called Nigeria, move forward? In advanced countries, including Britain which laid the foundation for Nigeria educational system (including higher education), governments neither appoint nor ratify the appointment of University VCs or Presidents (as they are called in North America). This is a purely administrative and academic leadership position which is globally advertised (so as to attract the best candidates) and intensely competed for so the very best can be appointed on the basis of meritocracy, not politically selected in consonance with a candidate's jingoistic and tribalistic leanings.

A few years ago, I read here on NL that the FGN appointed a new VC for one federal university - UNIBEN, to be precise. Out of curiosity, I searched his name (O.G Oshodin) in academic databases, the last paper published in reputable journals housed by the likes of Elsevier, Sage, Taylor & Francis, Oxford Journals, Cambridge journals, etc. was in 1999. In UK, US, Canadian universities (where the mantra of publish or perish is in vogue), the guy would have been given a sack rather than being appointed a university VC. Today, most of the so-called Nigerian academics publish in predatory journals (https://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/), any wonder Nigerian universities have become such a rot?[/size] [/b]

@ Freelanswer AND segun5A


You two are dumb, VERY DUMB, and there is no point engaging with you at all. It's POINTLESS. I have no time for your type.

NOT ANY MORE, NOT EVEN WHEN I DIE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CREMATED AND MY ASHES SPREAD INTO PLACES I CHERISH. THAT SAID, MY NEAREST CHURCH BUILDING, THANKFULLY, HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO RESTAURANTS AND BARS. THE UNDERGROUND VAULT NOW HOUSES A GAY CLUB.

[size=14pt]If you've always thought that runz girls and rent boys are only found in Nigerian universities, bin that idea right now. This business is well and alive amongst UK university students, male and female.[/size]

[size=18pt]'Why we've turned to prostitution': British university students reveal why they have resorted to selling their bodies[/size]

While some undergraduates say they could not have got through uni without selling their bodies, some women say it is a lifestyle choice

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Student Sex Worker

Financial desperation is not the only reasons British undergraduates are turning to prostitution, with some continuing to work in the sex industry after leaving university, students have revealed.

Many students claim they resort to illicit sex industries as they have no other way of paying their way until graduation, with claims of girls offering sex to their landlord in lieu of rent. But some are being drawn to it purely as a better paid option than bar tending or waiting tables, or even for pleasure and power kicks or the dream of being a "kept man" in one case, it has emerged.

In a series of frank interviews, current and former students who are on the game have told how and why they got into the seedy world and how it makes them feel. The women and a man, who asked to remain anonymous spoke to www.vice.com after a research project revealed more than a fifth of students have thought about being involved in the sex industry and males were more likely to get involved than female counterparts.

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Stigma: None of the student sex workers would be identified

One of these, Harry appeared to enjoy being a male prostitute believing "having the ability to make men pay" for him gave him "a certain power over them" and dreamed of life as a gigalo. He said: "Men hire me by the hour, either for sex, company or dates. I got into the sex industry because I had no money left to pay my bills or do anything socially. I signed up to a website, thinking I wouldn't get much of a response, but I did. And it felt good. My idea of a positive experience in this industry would be finding a rich man to pay me thousands every month to be his boyfriend. My friends know what I do but I don't blab about it to anyone and everyone, as there's definitely a great deal of stigma. One of my friends actually tried to get me down about it and tried to say I was "a dirty hooker on the street", but it isn't like that at all. It lets me pay off my bills and I have money left over to spend on my social life. The income isn't steady, though."

He described a "particularly negative experience" was when a married man asked him to go to his office for sex, telling the receptionist he was there for an interview as a cover story. He said: "As he instructed, that was what I told reception. Eventually, someone took me up to his office – but then they sat me in a large room and began to interview me for a job thinking I was there to be interviewed, which was pretty humiliating. I messaged him later, but he played the "I don't know you" card and even got the police involved since someone gave me his personal details."

Abigail, who graduated last summer, worked as a prostitute, dominatrix, and also did phone intimacy and webcamming throughout her degree. She said this was her only way to pay the bills, but has continued in the often illicit industry while job hunting for a "proper job" to avoid falling into the unpaid internship trap. She said: "Sex work was a ruthlessly pragmatic decision for me. My motivation for work has always been the same – to earn money. Sex work was no different in this regard. It afforded me the time to concentrate on my studies while I was earning. I could work just a couple of hours a week and not be too exhausted to study effectively, which is what I'd found when working part time in minimum-wage retail and bar jobs. I enjoyed sex work as it allowed me to pay my bills and my rent without difficulty, and I always knew that I'd be able to afford food and to engage in leisure activities without having the stress of completely depleting my bank account. As a graduate who has continued to work in the sex industry, this avenue of work has been useful to me as many internships are unpaid; I don't have a family who could support me so I'm not privileged enough to work for free. It has allowed me to not get into debt while applying for jobs related to my degree. Sex work has allowed me to pay off some of my debts, just as any other job would. I don't think a 9-to-5 job would have allowed me to pay off any more."

But she fears coming out as a prostitute due to stigma. She said: "The misinformation and moralising that goes on is probably the worst aspect; it denies sex workers a fully decriminalised environment that would be the safest for them to work in. I've found any negativity I've encountered as a sex worker has been the feeling of betrayal from feminists and policy makers who base their party lines and policy on pure ideology."

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Study: Swansea University where research was carried out


Claire, a history and politics student who moved to a London university from the north of England, told how getting into prostitution through a network of underground student contacts meant she could escape the traditional "noisy and overcrowded" digs most freshers end up living in.
The escort, who fears her identification could affect future career prospects, claims she could not afford her studies without her prostitution she advertises through a website, but admitted it allowed her more comfortable accommodation than most other students.

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phone intimacy: Other legal industries like live phone intimacy lines also attract hard up students

She said: "I didn’t know anyone in London so when I moved here it was starting from scratch.." Initially she lived in student accommodation in the city. “It was an overcrowded, noisy flat with other students,” she said. But after setting up her website selling sex, “I could afford a place of my own” she said.

She said: “I started working after my first year and tried various part time jobs: in a coffee shop, a pub and as a waitress. “None paid enough. The student loan didn’t cover even my housing, let alone living expenses, food, books and travel costs."

About 6,750 students from across the UK took part in an online study by Swansea University. It claims nearly 5 per cent of them had actually worked in the sex industry. Claire heard about sex work from other students. She said: “In my first year at university I started hearing about students turning to sex work. "After a time I met someone on another course who’d been working as a stripper in a bar. Through her I met another student doing escorting, she clued me in, said where to advertise, and how to avoid bad clients and work safely." She was given a rights card given out by the English Collective of Prostitutes’, a campaign group calling for decriminalistaion of prostitution and better rights for sex workers, which tells advises on laws around the sex industry. “I’d had no idea it was illegal for two women to work together. “I have regular clients. “I visit them at home, in hotels and occasionally at their workplace. It is flexible and fits around my course. I can work the hours I want to and scale back around exam time or if I have extra course work,” she said. Although fearing arrest or tarnishing future prospects, the student believes the risks outweigh the financial gains and headstart it gives over colleagues.

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Filmed: Many students don't want to be outed as sex workers but are willing to beam images of them in the act over the net through webcams
She said: "My biggest worry is about being arrested because if I get a criminal record it would stay with me for life. “It would be massive obstacle to getting other jobs. But sex work is far batter paid and suits my time more than any other work I know of. Friends at university are working 10 hour shifts for under the minimum wage. Others are working on zero hour contracts and never know how many hours they will get. Sometimes they get none at all so it is very hard to budget and pay bills. I know students who’ve dropped out and left courses due to financial pressures. Mostly students doing sex work don’t talk about it. If it comes out, it could affect your future and job prospects. Since I started escorting I’ve heard that a former roommate exchanged sex with her landlord to cover the rent. Another woman I know worked as a part time sex worker to earn enough to travel home to visit her family. Sex work among students is much more common than people think, and it is likely to increase as long as fees, rent and the cost of living is so high.”

The Student Sex Work Project, a three year initiative to provide non-judgemental advice on the sex industry in universities funded by the Big Lottery, says their stories show "a need for more dialogue about sex work in UK universities". Dr Tracey Sagar, who helped do the research for the project, said: "Most of the students who took part in the survey and who were working in the industry did so for economic reasons, some because they just wanted to and others because they were curious or for sexual pleasure. Most students do not need support or assistance but some do – even if that is just the opportunity to offload about their work, and the importance of this shouldn't be underestimated. The biggest challenge for the project has been tackling the stigma associated with sex work."

SOURCE: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/why-weve-turned-prostitution-british-5525504

[size=18pt]I hope your girlfriend or boyfriend studying in the UK isn't on the loose there, ladies and gentlemen?[/size]

Omotayor123:
I love the way you argue your point. But the way you ended it renders me speechless.. Haba!

Sorry fellow NLder.

ronald4lif:
He's being rational and truthful. Nigeria doesn't have the suitable climate to work and most of their work place doesn't even meet the required health and safety standards as obtainable abroad. One can injure themselves during work without any first aid or available ambulance service to rush to their rescue. Nothing works in our country, people are just surviving in thorny conditions.

A friend once told me sometime last year, that he's better off than most affluent Nigerians who are 10times richer than him. This is someone who works as a health and safety contractor and earns about £45K annually (an equivalent of 17million naira).

He cited his reasons as no matter how rich a Nigerian is they don't have stable electricity, pipe borne water, roads, proper healthcare etc. That their generators and boreholes could experience fault often which could lead to a brief interruption of power and water. Sounds crazy but very truthful.

Absolutely true.

[b]The timeless saying that "no one can ever see beyond his horizon" aptly applies to the OP. This is the most FOOLISH posting I have ever seen on NL which made frontpage. Apart from drug peddling, the jobs listed, including PROSTITUTION are perfectly legitimate, particularly under the UK law. I was lucky to be fully funded to study for my masters and doctoral degrees in london and didn't need to work. Nonetheless, there were boys and girls, men and women who had to pay their passage through graduate school by doing some of the jobs listed by the OP, especially cleaning and security. These ladies and gentlemen successfully completed graduate studies and now occupy enviable positions in their respective fields both at home and abroad (especially Europe, and north America). The reality of today's market is that countless native Europeans, Americans, Australasians who are university graduates are not in graduate positions in their respective countries, making it more difficult for immigrants to break through into the labour markets in these countries. Even when you finally break through, the whites would make life uncomfortable for you, especially if you're smarter, cleverer and more qualified than they are - they feel threatened by your profile and portfolio. That said, I personally know a Nigerian who graduated from OAU with first class honours in biochemistry, completed his MSc in the same field at NewCastle University, and for whatever reason, has been working in customer service for the last 10 years. He has built a country home in Naija, has his own detached house in the UK, lives comfortably, peaceably and together with his wife and children hold UK citizenship. What else can anyone ask for? He is, today, the envy of his classmates who are in Nigeria wallowing in university lecture rooms as senior lecturers and in laboratories 'slaving' as chemists for MNCs.

I normally don't do argumentum ad hominem, but on this occasion, I would say the OP needs his brains checked at ARO, Abeokuta, because he must be certainly, mentally derailed.[/b]

[b]I am reading what clueless Nigerian religionists engaging in argumentum ad ignorantiam and, therefore, displaying nothing but their colonial mentality are spewing here on this thread and simply laughing. In the same token, I am thoroughly impressed by the counter arguments. Well done guys. Time and again, I have said more than enough on various threads on this site, maintaining consistently, that the whole enterprise of religion is a farce.

The bible is nothing but a fraud. Why? To summarise the complex argument, the Old Testament is a collection of aspects of Hebrew history interspersed by ancient Mesopotamian folklores and mythology. There is nothing wrong with folklores and mythology. They are deployed in moralising people into the norms and mores of any societies. Problem, however, emerges when myths and folklores (including any opus containing these) are suddenly ascribed the status of 'truth'. This is the problem with the bible. Those who are deeply knowledgeable about the canonisation of the New Testament know about the falsified attribution of the authorships of the gospels and the epistles as well as the unreliability of Johannine apocalypse. Quintessentially, religious truth claims which derive from canonised and uncanonised scriptures, including the idea of God itself, remain unverifiable and unfalsifiable propositions.

Elsewhere on this site, I extensively discussed the fact that the most religious societies in the world, including Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc, are the most economically deprived and the most corrupt countries in the world (evidencing irreligiosity and exhibiting hypocrisy). Conversely, the least religious countries in the world, typically the Nordic countries (Sweden, Iceland, Norway, etc) are the richest and least corrupt countries in the world with lowest crime rates. Quintessentially, this has led me to conclude that morality is logically independent of religiosity. Any wonder, Marx famously noted that religion is the opium of the [depraved, proletariat] masses.[/b]

[size=16pt]0.0% of Icelanders 25 years or younger believe God created the world, new poll reveals[/size]


Iceland seems to be on its way to becoming an even more secular nation, according to a new poll. Less than half of Icelanders claim they are religious and more than 40% of young Icelanders identify as atheist. Remarkably the poll failed to find young Icelanders who accept the creation story of the Bible. 93.9% of Icelanders younger than 25 believed the world was created in the big bang, 6.1% either had no opinion or thought it had come into existence through some other means and 0.0% believed it had been created by God.

Why has the ancient Sumerian religion Zuism become the fastest growing religion in Iceland?
The poll, which was conducted by the polling firm Maskína on behalf of Siðmennt, The Icelandic Ethical Humanist Association, an association of Icelandic atheists, found that 46.4% of Icelanders identify as religious, which is the lowest figure to date.
Younger people and inhabitants of Reykjavík are least religious

Older people are far more likely to profess religious beliefs and to identify as Christian than those who are younger. 80.6% of those older than 55 identified as Christian and only 11.8% said they were atheists. At the same time 40.5% of people who were 25 years or younger said they were atheists, and only 42% said they were Christian. Traditional Christian beliefs also seem more common outside of Reykjavík, where 77-90% of people identified as Christian and 7.1-18 were atheists, compared to 56.2% of people in Reykjavík who identified as Christian and 31.4% as atheist.

0.0% of people younger than 25 believe God created the world
The poll found an even more dramatic difference between different generations when it probed how people believed the world had been created. Of those younger than 25 93.9% said the world had been created in the big bang and 0.0% believed God had created the world. 77.7% of those between 25 and 44 years old believed the world had been created in the big bang and 10.1% believed God had created the world. In all but the oldest age category a majority accepted the big-bang theory. Only 46.1% of those older than 55 believed in the big bang, and nearly a fourth, 24.5% believed God had created the world.

People in the oldest category were also most unsure about the origins of existence, as 16.6% of those older than 55 saying they either didn’t know or had no opinion on the origin of the world.

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Growing support for separation of Church and State
The poll also found a growing percentage of Icelanders support the full separation of church and state. Out of those who expressed an opinion on the subject 72% supported the full separation of church and state and 28% oppose the separation of church and state. Currently the Icelandic constitution stipulates that the state church of Iceland is the Icelandic Evangelical Lutheran Church.