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27Pushing30:
Oga sorry to ask but are you a graduate?

What is your business where your payment for a service you rendered is coming from?? Have they raided Gucci and rolls royce to recover the money for the cars and clothes hushpuppi purchased?

I know our educational system bad but you need to at least be able to THINK on your feet.

Ok let me paint this scenario for you , hopefully you grasp A yahoo boy is driving on the road and meets police checkpoint... police searches his car and sees weed . dude settles the police man with 200k to avoid arrest.

will you now say the policeman is guilty of the crime (YAHOO YAHOO) and should be extradited alongside the yahoo boy if FBI requests it or is the police officer only guilty of the crime (Bribery and Corruption) ?

i am a graduate and more so from a Uk Univercity about 17 years ago and still work in the UK, that answers your 1st part of your question
I employ you to please look up the meaning of proceeds of crime.Just cos law enforcement is in shambles in Nigeria does not mean that such laws do not exist.
if I am a 419 in total and I have £800k in my account and my bank statement shows I transferred monies to 8 people you beating amongst, Where the funds in my bank had been defined as proceeds of crimes, you who received money from me would have to show what the money you received from me is meant for if you cant you are now termed as receiving part of proceeds of crime. This is what forensic investigation and the evidence does, something the vast majority of yal do not know. It does not end there, since the money is not clean money the means of it getting to our police is now termed as laundering.ASK yourself this, why do you think IBORI was jailed in the UK when the offense committed was in Nigeria??

haslaw:
That is exactly what the dundee uniteds on this forum are failing to understand.

So the money he received is not classed as proceeds of a crime right?
The proceeds that came from poppy duped monies

27Pushing30:
so those who steal others credit card information and use it on websites (i.e Jumia) ... jumia will be held liable? or jumia will be told to return the money?

Oga think well abeg.

He offered a service and got paid... you have to prove he knowing accepted proceeds of a crime... keyword . KNOWINGLY

That is why if you buy a stolen phone naija police at worse will recover the phone from you BUT to be arraigned or jailed there must be explicit proof that you knew it was stolen goods.

come oh U can do better, the crime was not only receiving money however the money received was a proceed of crime committed abroad, you get the gist now??
One issue with you lot in Nigeria is the oversabi mentality, are you a lawyer?
If you buy a stolen phone you are in trouble, the offense there is simple, handling of stolen goods which is in the Nigerian constitution!
returning the phone in the case you narrated is a form of purnishment cos you lose money.

Springboot:
The servers of Whatsapp DO NOT store any of the users' messages. They store messages only until such time when the user's device gets connected to the network, with a maximum period of 30 days from the date of the message.

U 4got that whatsaap back up your messages! cos of its android and google account must!

27Pushing30:
The crime FBI claims he committed was not committed in USA or some other Nation BUT here in Nigeria.

So unless the FBI claims and can prove ABBA KYARI is a member of a FRAUD (BEC) GANG then please furnish the Nigerian police with necessary information so he can be tried here simple.

Regards.

Remind us where the money was sent from again?

faceland:
Looking at those ships makes me want to jump on one and go to Europe

The ship is from China

Barbiturate:
Why is this port not patronised like that of Lagos? At least to decongest Lagos port! Even oil dealers in the south and other southern shippers prefer Lagos

very simple answer, not a lot of shipping lines go there!

Tonyace25:
Thank you . I will wait, I really appreciate your efforts

Try and relax, its all in order!

thaoriginator:
Every Tom, Dick and Harry is a lawyer now

stop hating, go and be a lawyer if E easy

Simplythebest:
Well it depends on branch and the period. The branch suppose to request for dollars from there bullion and the will supply it for them. Remember then no one is monitoring then but now CBN will monitor them their will be a different. But in all u know how Nigeria is corrupt and everyone want to cash out with any opportunity. But trust me this the best decision for CBN Naria will bounce back give it a month.

Bro that one nah ur own u talk oh, me I dey wire money directly to my bank today's rate £1=N700 pere no long thing

loswhite:
From your post it is obvious you did not work with CBN...You cannot trust the bank but you can trust the BDC that has been collecting 393 and selling 500....Wedon sir

500? U mean 525

Simplythebest:
Bank don't withhold dollars. Have u ever go to bank to collect western union and the told u no dollar? Or have u requested for PTA and the bank told u no dollar. I think this the best decision CBN has made so far. They can control and checkmate the bank not not those BDC

you lot are kids, you arwe talking of $1000 and $500, try and collect $20,000 and hear waht they will say, My friend whom I warned not to do this domicle account shyte did it, he tried to withdraw £15k bank told him no forex, then said Ok give me $10k bank said no forex but they are prepared to pay him in local currency and guess at waht rate? CBN rate that nor be Winch

tsmat:
Lol then you know nothing about changing of citizenship or Dual citizenship.

if you have been on Nairaland long enough as I do you would not say what you just did as we had this discussion ages ago

Karlman:
That's an insult!

Do you know the MEANING??

tsmat:
Lol. Wait did he stop being a Nigerian the moment he became a Brit

you can if you want to, U dnt even need to get permission from Nigeria!

do yah all know the meaning of consular service

Tinubuadvocate:
The achievements of this present administration within short period he took over from looter government can't be overemphasize .But despite this landslide achievements some disgruntled people still attacking the president with mannernless.

Buhari has done well fulfilled his electoral promises although we have issues of insecurity we need to join hands together and support the government giving out useful information to security agencies that's only way we can defeat insecurity.

Thank you mr president may you live long.

He is more than 6 years in Government, so it's not a short time, they have less than 2 years to go!

Coronabirus:
Ohhh...I didn't get u earlier. In UK "freedom of speech and freedom to publish" is highly upheld. If u look at it very well Assange is loved the most in UK by citizens, law makers, journalists and many organisations. Exposing Queen's offshore account doesn't contradict freedom of information in UK because it doesn't involved revealing the privacy part of the account and on the other hand isn't an offence for the Queen to have that account. In fact, Queen is one of the richest people in the world. Nobody is above the law in UK.

Who told you all that?i think U forgot I live i n England.The guy published clasified UK documents as well,U forgot there are UK troop as well in Iraq, even the SOldiers are i n UK jails as we speak.The quen having an offshore accounts made the queen not to have a moral ground to frown at them big companies which have the body that is responsible for taxation in the Uk is called HM revenue and customs meaning her majesty revenue and customs!

Coronabirus:
He can't escape their wrath no matter how long.
National Interest is above everything, that's what many Nigerians don't understand nor advocate!

You still have not said anything about what I asked, why is the \uk not prosecuting him, he was even the one who leaked the news of the Queen having an offshore account!

Coronabirus:
Assange has multiple cases to answer in different countries, US want to extradite him and put him on trial in the United States on espionage charges for his role in publishing American military and diplomatic documents.
There is also British efforts to extradite him to Sweden. He is wanted for questioning on accusations of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion brought by two women in Stockholm in 2010, allegations he has denied.
Julian Assange: Sweden drops rape investigation
Prosecutors in Sweden have dropped an investigation into a rape allegation made against Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange in 2010 but was re-opened in 2019 following his eviction from the embassy.
The reason for their earlier decision is that the evidence has weakened considerably due to the long period of time that has elapsed since the events in question," it added. The injured party has submitted a credible and reliable version of events.
"Her statements have been coherent, extensive and detailed; however, the overall assessment is that the evidential situation has been weakened to such an extent that that there is no longer any reason to continue the investigation."
With the end of Julian Assange's legal troubles in Sweden, one long chapter in the saga is over. But another one, in the United States, has barely begun.
They'll continue untill his last breath!

Ok we now agree he is only wanted in the US, you have not answered my question though, He published and leaked loads of UK intelligence yet the Uk has no case against him.As for going to US, the Uk.Eu will never allow this.

adenigga:
FG Deploys 9,100 Corpers In North-West, Gunmen Kill 344, Abduct 430 Persons July



Source: https://punchng.com/FG-deploys-9100-corpers-in-NWest-gunmen-kill-344-abduct-430-July

if my child is sent to the NE, Me Im pulling them out of NYSC sharply!

Coronabirus:
If u interfere in US interest then they'll not spare u at all, Assange might have commit the offence but we can't be in hurry to find him guilty of the charges before the verdict of court. He ran because he knew he won't get justice. Michael Jackson suffered similar allegations untill they made him poor, running from one country to another (accused of child sexual abuse) and later found that he was just framed. US people are popular on staging rape allegations on enemies because it fetches tough penalty.

Well loads of people round the world interfere with the US, it depends on your level. The Iraq WMD was cooked in teh UK exposed by Arsegne, but he is the Uk still!

Coronabirus:
Wikileaks committed a lot of sins against US Govt but it turn out to be blessing to the developing Nations, a betrayal to some of her ally, and a big shame to a pretentious US.
The WikiLeaks website published thousands of United States government secrets on the internet. The classified documents reveal secret correspondence between the US State Department in Washington, DC and its 270 embassies across the globe. The revelations are embarrassing and angering Washington and governments and political leaders worldwide - including in Africa.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/wikileaks-revelations-could-have-serious-consequences-africa
The WikiLeaks Cables: How the United States Exploits the World, in Detail, from an Internal Perspective, 2001–2010
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09592296.2019.1557416
Shell had "access to everything" in Nigeria: WikiLeaks
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-shell-idUSTRE6B80HL20101209
The CIA has a long history of helping to kill leaders around the world
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/05/cia-long-history-kill-leaders-around-the-world-north-korea
WikiLeaks revelations ‘shed light of truth’ on war on terror, court hears
https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252489954/WikiLeaks-revelations-shed-light-of-truth-on-war-on-terror-court-hears

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

you are missing the point, I never said he did not publish all those, what i am saying is this, not 200 years old, and that you are giving the man far 2much credit moreso, all this has one source and no hacking was Involved cos his website is a pay/view one.if you have followed this story very well you would have know that all these came about fru a serving military personal and female! Im talking about all that videos etc

seyi360:
At what point can a man quit salary jobs
1. After attaining financial strength
2. After establishing a profitable business
3. After years of job hunting without success

Just thinking out loud

there lays ur problem, not everyone is cut out to own their own business.
However, the fastest way to be your own boss is to learn a trade

Coronabirus:
He revealed historical secrets of US and other Nations including their conspiracies and struggle before independence.
In Nigeria for instance, he revealed pre-independence secrets of Nigeria; the meetings, congregations, congresses, conferences, power tussle, conspiracies, political alliance, and many other secrets, these are obtained through minutes of meetings, leaked memos, leaked office documents, exposing secret by former Govt officials, security agents, war veterans, rebels, betrayers, internet hacking, and all sort of ways.
I listened to many secrets revealed by Assange some years before his ordeals!

You have not provided any evidence to all what you have just said,as we speak his only crime is endangering US spies and troops' lives abroad. His other alleged crimes were for rape that has been dropped. With all that you said up there, I think you are giving the man fr 2much credit!

Coronabirus:
He exposed more than 200yrs world powers secret, infact he revealed a lot of things abt Nigeria that even most Nigerians don't know.
The world should've boycott any relationship with US completely for what he exposed and almost all he revealed is true.
Wikileak has really helped the handicapped and gagged world know their enemies!

200 years? oh pls, 200 years old secreats like?

rowland545:
lols...exactly...Both U.k and U.S have things to protect.... Don't think he might go to the U.S either

E goes nowhere, they might jst keep him behind bars till

ethicallyright:
Julian Assange's story proves that even in a democracy of more than 2 centuries, there is only freedom of speech and no freedom after speech.

One of his leaks "Collateral murder" reveals video clips of the cold-blooded murders committed by American forces against unarmed civilian babies in the Middle East.

America pursues him because he hacked and revealed what is called "classified" military information. These data show that stories are not always innocent and even if they are, they have more than one side.

After a long chase, Julian speedily drove into the premises of the Embassy of Ecuador in a foreign land. He was granted Asylum there. According to international law and diplomatic conventions, the embassy of a country is an extension of the country in the foreign land it is situated.

He was invited by two beautiful women to Sweden because he was sexually appealing to them. They consented to sex with him. But after one round of sex, he took off his condom and had his way without a condom. In Swedish criminal law, if a woman gives you consent to have sex with a condom and you take off the condom at any point, you have committed rape.

A clean set-up by the CIA, Sweden started chasing him for raping their "innocent" citizen...

i think you are getting over xcited here, he never hacked into anything he does not have the capability, please read well again!

rowland545:
OK I see...so they just want the man's head...just bcus of wat he knows.

probably, nah extradition case dey ground since, but I nor think say the guy dey go anywhere cos e fit go there leak mama charlie secrete as e do USA own

Hangmnk:
$35.9 billion Is this a joke. $35.9 billion is more valuable than Cameroon and Nigeria.

i think it says Million bross, so hold fire

gulfer:
Please pass the bridge everyday and give update, a bridge to this stage in 3months for Nigeria

E shock U??

BeeBeees:
Shey na only cars dey pass ontop bridge?
Who go use the footwalk parts??
Or won't those without cars pass beneath the bridges??

Those not in vehicles have no business going ontop bridges, unless U nah one of those galla n pure water people.