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Pastor Kun: You are quite wrong 'tithe law' did not exist before the law although the practise was a common tradition in ancient Babylonia were abraham migrated from. Abraham's tithe was based on tradition and NOT law.

Kindly note that my statement on tithing 'law' was made within inverted comas

It is good to pay tithes o, if not, some stingy xtians no go invest for the spreading of gospel wether pastor dey chop their money or not.

OK, but for me, I no dey pay (no follow me o)
Yes, it makes me a breaker of the 'tithe law which was in existence before the law'
Thank God that Jesus grace and yanfu yanfu blessings dey cover me from any ommission or sins established before the law and after the law

Joagbaje: You're the one adding to scriptures here. God never said tithe is obsolete you are the one saying so. The abolishment of the law has nothing to do with tithe because it didnt originate in the law. It pre-existed the law.

You sure are right.

God never said that marrying more than one wife and having concubines is obsolete. it pre-existed the law
The saturday sabath was intitiated in the garden, its not obsolete either. it pre-existed the law
And ahhh, owning of slaves, Even Abraham had them. God never said it was obsolete. No, no, it pre-existed the law

2buff: Y'all shouldn't get it twisted.
I believe in tithing, just like Jesus believed in obeying the Sabbath.
BUT, love takes prime priority. If you follow all the rules in the world, but do not show love when it is needed most and when you are [b]LED [/b]to, you're not doing it right.

I will still pay tithe, but if met with that situation again and being all I could give, I would gladly profer it to that brother/sister as led.
THIS is the truth of the reality of things, and the root of the message Jesus was trying to portray when he healed that man on the Sabbath.

If you do not feel comfortable following the lead of the Spirit, then by all means do the one you know. It also has it's own reward as well.
But I find it is these special lead actions that yield the most ridiculously pleasant results.

Don't look for excuses NOT to tithe. Don't dullen your senses to the Spirit either concerning the matter.
That is all.

Excellent, u've said it all . All men to their own

AjanleKoko: Tell me about it. I work in telecom, and we regularly have issues with call center agents arguing aggressively with customers

lol..... wow.

so its true?? jeez!!

Goodness mine!!!!
#@$$$$$^!!! Can't believe this.

I wish it only remained a theory

beanos: When you pay your Tithe of 10%, You still have 90% left with you. From there you can still help the poor around you. You don't rob peter to pay paul.

The Law of Tithing.

Tithing is a commandment from the Lord to give one-tenth of all our increase, which we understand to mean
income. Even Abraham paid tithing,
"And it was this same Melchizedek to whom Abraham paid tithes; yea, even our father Abraham paid tithes of one-tenth part of all he possessed."

Blessings from Paying Tithing.

When we obey the Law of Tithing we are blessed. Malachi 3:10 says, "Bring ye all
the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD
of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room
enough to receive it." When we don't pay tithing we are stealing from God. "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have
we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings." ( Malachi 3: An important part about obedience to the Law of
Tithing is to pay it faithfully. This means that we shouldn't begrudge paying it, such as grumbling in our hearts about
"having" to give money. "There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated— And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated." Meaning we
receive blessings by obeying God's laws and when we obey God's laws there are blessings that go with it. Remember,
blessings can be spiritual, temporal or both but are not always given in the way we expect. How to Calculate Tithing Since tithing is one-tenth of our increase, meaning our income, we figure out how much money, either weekly, monthly, etc. and then times
that amount by 10%. You can easily do this by dividing any amount by 10. For example take #50,000 divide it by ten and the amount of tithing would be
#5000.
It's also important to note that
you can be generous with your
tithing, by paying even more.

Gaining a Testimony of Tithing.

Personally I know that obeying the law of tithing is a wonderful financial blessing. It's a privilege and a blessing
to pay tithing. As you put your trust in the Lord and begin to pay a faithful tithe of 10 percent of your income you
will gain your own personal testimony from the law of tithing.
Be Blessed.

Personally, the bolded above is what initially put a question mark in the gospel of tithing for me. I did some calculations and came up with fractions. Added some money, but deep down felt wrong about this. Read some more scripture and still couldn't shake this off. It made me feel that it was a law that was built to be inaccurate so that I would meditate on it deeper -Much like lustfull looking vs adultery that Jesus spoke about.

I have now found my peace and blessings. Every man to his own

AjanleKoko: Nah.
Things are not changing. Nigerian companies do not invest in training their frontline staff on customer services.
Also, I think by nature we are quite aggressive, we tend to display aggression in customer interaction.

Outside the shores, someone actually drew my attention to this as one of the main reasons why customer care help lines are not outsourced to Nigeria despite its cheap labour

80) This cup shall surely pass

This thinking helps me kill present pains, and its one of those powerful nuggets that could prove useful to you. I'll describe the concept using a very close story (I hope i don't get into trouble with my write-ups 0.

Adaeze came crying to Chuka, she had an extra year in the university and couldn't believe it (although I can't say that she did much academically to escape this outcome). Adaeze and Chuka where close friends. Chuka consoled her the the way he knew best. She wouldn't be consoled, and kept crying saying her ma would kill her and her plans for the immediate future had been dashed e.t.c.

Chuka held her beautiful face in his palms, looked into her perfect brown eyes, smiled and said:

"Dear, you're crying today, tomorrow you'll also cry, next week you'd be crying a little. But trust me, this day next year, you'd have forgotten the pains of today, and I bet you in 5 years time, there wont be the slightest pain or its recall, plus this issue would definitely have passed"

Some 6 years later, Chuka and Adaeze met again in Canada. Once more like many years ago, they were in Chuka's place and Chuka was complaining bitterly about his present issues both financial and completing his thesis. Adaeze's eye's lit up, she reminded Chuka of that day 6 years ago when he comforted her, and how it worked wonders.

"Chuka" she said, "what you said was so true. look at me, I am a big girl now, its all passed away, and I only laugh and think about you when I recall the event". Chuka and Adaeze got laughing as they recalled old times. Chuka knew she was right, and thanked her in his heart for bringing this truth home when he needed it most.

[xtian perspective]Jesus despite the pains, praying that the cup he was about to drink should pass over him, understood that there was a tomorrow that would shine brighter than today.

My friends, no matter what we pass through, even at the pain of death, try to hold on to this, hold on to tomorrow. It will surely come either in this life or the next. My prayer for you is that it comes in this.

donguutti: esere= dude i really do not know where to place your insightful posts, strategy, business, life
or all of the above .This is a great thread about looking inwards , outwards and viewing life
/business in a new light.Am still undecided about copying some of your post into my phone incase
nairaland shuts down tomorrow(i hope not).

More Grease to your Elbow, Brain,Fingers and to whoever cooks the food that enables you to make such great
posts

Thanks O.

If you copy my post, me and Seun go sue you well well

RoddyMan: Guy, I must commend u on ur unique insights.... This is the 2nd time I've come to read thru ur posts. Don't stop learning and sharing.

Thanks dude

79) Getting him to buy that dress

Sarah so loved that dress she saw in one of those high street shops. She wanted to purchase it, but knew that her husband Sam would be mad at her for squandering money. What did men understand. She had once seen a dress just like this and told Sam that she would like to get it. Sam had asked her why, and she had said it would make her feel good and confident.

Sam then went on to lecture her lengthilly on the financial constraints that they were facing. In fact the whole event had lead to a one week quarrel. She was determined to get this new dress this time, but wanted to do it without the quarrel that would definitely come with it. Someone shared with her the idea I have just espoused, and she quickly chose a strategy that she was sure would work.

Sarah: Honey
Sam: yeah dear
Sarah: We would be attending your old boys meeting at the end of the month
Sam: Thats true, I almost forgot

Sarah: I can imagine the wives of your friends all looking gorgeous. Those your guys try sha, dem marry fine wives
Sam: yep, but not as beautiful as mine. Se your bumbum, none can beat this

Sarah: *Giggles, goes to the wardrobe and picks up an old dress* This is what I will wear to the event
Sam: *frowns, he hates this dress, it makes her look like an SU. Kai, im friends go yab am in secret* Why not try the red one you used in the last event?
Sarah: *frowns, but quickly regains her compusure. Silly man she thinks, How does he expect me to repeat same dress twice. Men and their dog brains*
Sarah: Oh, that lovely one. I gave it out to charity, but don't worry, I'll borrow a dress for the party
Sam: Tufiakpa, my wife borrow cloth? Impossible. Why not get a new one?

Sarah: But we're managing our finances remember?
Sam: Common babes, I'm not that poor naw. Aba!! Get urself a new dress. That definitely won't sink our bank account
Sarah: My king, and oga. Mighty sexy man, husband of this sexy ikebelicious woman
Sam: *grins* yes o. In fact here, add this money and get the best dress that would get eyes turning in that party. You backside must pop in the dress o

78) The world is a stage, and u be actor for inside

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts (William Shakespeare)

**This is the big one I was talking about**

The journey that we have taken you through is in order for us to emphasise this point. You've watched movies and seen the way one thing intelligently leads to the next (not nollywood wen things dey happen without reason. ..Suddenly)

The actors in movies play their part, towards a desired end. in order words, they work backwards from the end towards the present. They are emotionless, not actually connected to the event unfolding but yet potray a lot of emotions in the movies, all for you to connect. So the actor when slapped in the movie will not go off script, vex and carry im bag dey go house. Abi?

There are so much emotional urges welling up in us daily, but I'd do well to keep them in check if they are not useful, and unleash them only when the need arises. Much like an actor, we script our emotions towards outcomes we desire. We also need to be mindful of how the emotions of others affect their disposition towards us or how we can be swallowed up by the emotions of the mob


There are so many stories on 'Acting' from the bible and the secular world which i can share with you. I intend to share some......

Bawss1: ^ I was going to mention that. I know a Nigerian chic that works as a CC on Emirates. Her twin sister works with Virgin Atlantic.

gbokukueba: I came across a Nigerian girl on Emirates sometime in February and we got talking when she saw me with a Blackberry Playbook which she just started using herself.

Excellent. Please can you share stories of their challenges, how they got there e.t.c This would be helpful and deepen this discovery process. Thanks

77) Emotional Baggage (Secular lessons )

By now we are fully aware that if you want trouble from the 'intelligenstia' in yoruba land, just curse Awo .
And there you go, you have a storm. Even their professors of rocket science will join the ruffu ruffu fight. Expect to hear cliches like this:

"no one messes with the Yorubas and goes scot free".

Ok, No problem. Go to the North and yab Mohammed and God. Well, expect to come back in a casket without your head. Even their academics will pen subtle stuff regretting the incident, but cautioning everyone that actions lead to reactions

Go to Benin kingdom and insult their Oba. Em, expect that there would be a move for a council to be held in another planet to decide your case , except you're not worth it

With all these identified emotional baggage/buttons, you could sit back as a politician or illimunati to manipulate the system towards your goals
Secretly paste big blasphemy picture in Kano 1 day before Friday, and during a presidential election season. On Friday, Southerners (mostly SE) get killed. Southerners are angry but meek.

Sponsor a a big writer from the SS or SE zone to write against Awo. U can be almost sure that the SW and North will unite against the other parts of the country in the political battle.


You the politician smile to the bank, ................while the others are like sheep being lead to the slaughter

76)Emotional baggage (xtian lessons)

What I have tried to draw out in a hurry is that we do have emotional baggage/buttons that we carry along with us, and which can be our strengths or our undoing.

-Imagine King David in the bible was ill, and his advisors felt that what he needs was a young girl sleeping by his side to give him strength

"Jesus wept" John 11: 35.
-That's the shortest verse in the bible. If you read the account that lead to this, you would understand why. Here was someone going to raise someone from the dead and yet he wept.
-Simply because everyone around was weeping. As humans, we tend to mirror things around us, take on peoples grief and happiness.
-Even your simply reading this account from the bible could make you emotional

Jesus actually had to shake himself off the sorrow in order to perform his miracle. Please read those verses again, stop at John 11:38-39. Use all translations available

(internet na ur friend. U can try this one: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2011:35-40&version=MSG).....

...to decode what happened there. This is something that no one has probably ever shown you, but is loaded with the deep breadth of the Spirit. Stop waiting for your pastor to show u stuff , latch on to the Spirit

75) Perceptions and you

I have followed with interest the killing of the Aluu4 in Rivers state. I totally condemn jungle justice, but I am fully aware of the wider issues of which that unfortunate even was a minute part.

In my observations (not scientific) of this event and other events that involve perception, I have noticed that ladies tend to share a different perspective.
-For example when everyone was yabbing BEAF and saying he was Reno, ladies saw Reno's pictures and were more interested and commenting more on in his looks and his husband material-ness. In fact guys tire for them
-Ladies where not impressed that the 'fine' Aluu4 were killed

We tend to associate more with those that we share similarities with
-Lindaikeji who is a lady and into showbiz was quick to draw attention to the Aluu4 musical careers. She warned that anyone who posted in her blog support anything apart from condemnation for the act would be kicked out
-Poor folks are killed regularly in this manner, and we don't care.
-In fact some ladies take a look at the pictures of these poor folks and say things like: "his face looks like that of a thief"


It has actually been scientifically shown that we 'tend' to marry or mate with folks that share similarities with us

74) Animation, Personifactions et al

I noticed the transition from the word cartoon to the word animation as is presently used.
I dont know why, but I have this sneaky feeling that the process that birthed the new replacement word -animation is not presently captured effectively. i.e, if you search for the meaning of animation, you're basically told what a cartoon is all about. So why did the name have to change?

If you've watched they way new phrases are coined to capture research thesis in the initiation stages, you might understand what I mean.

I suspect that scholars initially pushed the idea of animation to mean the breathing of life into cartoon characters. This would have been neccesary in order for the audience to be able to connect emotionally with the cartoon characters, therefore leading to a greater buy-in

You see, the more an object displays human attributes, the more empathy we fill, and the more connection we have to the object. If in a movie, a tree is made to display human xteristics and is then cut down, you might find yourself crying.

You get my point?

CHURCH POLITICS

I pushed the ukponkus/edionwas/babas of xtiandom in my school
who had been dormant all this while to start a fellowship
You see my little friends in the lord, there is some difference between old brooms and new brooms
The old brooms have all grown weary, that's why they talk about revivals
On the other hand the new brooms dey hyperactive, just like U

Fellowship starts, suddenly the rusted bolts became agile
the greyed-haired xtians start appreciating leadership and want to be the first to preach
Just like their mentors they watch on TV
I was assured that my turn will soon come

It never came, No, not on that platform
You see young uns, Jesus understood the proclivity (*kai see grammer*)of the church elders
Thats why he kept on telling Peter, "if you truely love me"
"Please take care of my sheep"


U see dear ones, we are humans who happen to be Gods
much like those greek tales of their gods who had human emotional baggage


You'll soon find the elders groping you lecherously
lieing against you
stealing from you
sleeping with and marrying your girlfriends or wives
teaching you what even they don't understand

Don't worry, It all comes with the turf
No be today im start. U'll grow out of the shock
and learn wisdom and discernment

73) Total recall

I introduced web thinking which is the big engine beneath the bonnet of this writeup. This I have argued is important in taking us away from the slavery of rules of wealth. These rules are great, especially valuable as memorisable nuggets to be carried around. However, I feel that many are restrictive and not deep enough to light our paths. We therefore run into hapless situations when we apply them when faced with new challenges in new environments. I particularly remember how someone read so much about networking in a linear fashion. In trying to apply this in the UK, it did not work. However, with web thinking she was able to raise her neck above the waters.

My suggestion is this: just read this thread over and over again no matter how boring it gets. Critique if need be, in order to own it. It would soon take a life of its own and u might feel it tap on your shoulder when you're facing a tough situation and you're thinking of ways around it.

Boy!! it has been extremely useful to me, and I thank God for this.




....Next we talk about emotions and you

72) Recap

I am going to offload one of the big ones pretty soon. I'll slowly work my way towards it, and try my best not to deviate. But before this, lets recap.


I started this post driven by complaints I hear all the time both offline and online about seemingly hopeless situations as regards money. It was also an oppurtunity to offload pressure that had been building up in me for several years to pass a message accros on alternative thinkings on economic well being. I have shared for free my knowledge (which i bought with time, money, observations, begging, prayers and determination), and this pressure has thankfully eased off. I hope it finally quenches so that I can move on to other things.

There would be a time I would cast this thread as a precious jewel to my heart into the deep waters of Nairaland and watch it sink to the bottom like I've done with another extremely insightful thread in this forum.

(https://www.nairaland.com/950830/before-leaving-nigeria-things-must/4 My comments in the thread are on career breakthrough in the UK from the 4th page all the way to the last)

My prayers on those who pick it up is that they find its content extremely useful in their day-to-day lives. I'll probably resurect it once in a while.

71) Still on Business vs Career

If I am a die-hard capitalist and the owner of a business, the only reason that I would be thinking of increasing your pay is:
1) if this gives me better value for my money.
2) U are a unique staff that I am trying hard to retain and ur particular skills are ireplaceable

So quit moaning, it might give you a heart condition for nothing. U can up and leave the job, or try to make yourself an asset to the business owner. With this, you might be able to partake in profit sharing through increased salary, promotion or deals with the business owner. Bring contract for your oga, and im go fit give u 60% of the profit sef

Read the story of Alex Okosi, the Nigerian man working in MTV who brought the industry to Nigeria
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/28/showbiz/akex-okosi-mtv-africa/index.html

This should give you a feel of how even your career can be treated as a business. Giving you the opportunity to have secure earnings plus potential business oppurtunities and a fat pay cheque to boot. I guess its up to our interests and abilities (just a guess)


(** of course, most of my analysis is centered around small companies, but they share a lot of similarities with big one men owned companies like Glo. With companies owned by multiple shareholders the analysis would be different**)

70) So what's the difference?

Imagining the following scenarios:

Scenario 1) Career
You get into an employment, and work your behind off for 2 years. You notice that your income has not increased much since you joined the company.
The company is not even sending you off for trainings
They are not putting you on important projects where you can gain some more experience.
You feel extremely bitter

Scenario 2) Business
You sit behind the wheels as the owner of a business, folks apply to have a career/job in your coy.
Your primary goal as the owner of the coy is to make money and ensure your coy does not sink. Abi?
Now just imagine some staff moaning about promotion and oppurtunities in this same coy. Sounds like little mosquitoes disturbing you shei?
They can take a walk for all you care. All except for the ones that are critical to the success of your business.


U notice the shift in thinking from the different positions?

69 ) Business vs Career

Some folks talk about going into business almost as an antithesis to having a career job, and vise versa. One person might be looking out
for financial stability/security in her choice while the other might be looking out for some flexibility, loci of control or oppurtunity
to make big time cash. All well and good.

I have some thinking on this subject especially as I have experienced both worlds to some extent. However lets talk about promotion in your
chosen job/career. My aim here is to slowly caliberate our expectations away from the 'what' to the 'why'

Have you ever come accross someone complaining bitterly about lack of promotion or lack of opportunities in her office? Happens all the time right


(I'll seriously welcome some critique here)

From my reading of the bible wholly, this is what i think

The 'law' of tithe no longer exists for new covenant believers
However, just like other biblical laws, such laws still exist for some because of the 'hardness of their hearts'
In order words, abiding by this law is what stirs up faith in them, not doing this puts them in psychological trouble

Afterall, some actually believe that if they sin God will punish them, and that if they do good deeds God will reward them
This diminishes the value of christ, but is accepted by some because of the hardness of their hearts.
Even some of the writers of the new testament struggled with this revelation
Afterall they reason, what if after receiving christ, you go ahead to commit murder. ....
So because they've chosen this, God has given them the 'talent' that they deserve
which off course is servitude to the law and its modern day prophets

Even amongst some that have come to accept this gospel of total cleansing from past sin and future sins
Some are confident in this gospel only when they hold on tightly to their pastors apron (sometimes referred to as the anointing of that ministry)

(Its not easy accepting this gospel. U might feel almost empty at first and would want to cling to anything flesh for assurance. Its actually easier being led my men than by the Spirit)

Again, God has given these their own 'talents' too.
They are therefore under the 'laws of their pastors'
And these pastors have required that they pay tithe because of their own (pastor's)understanding. Which they (the followers) must have to pay for their salvation (salvation has a stronger meaning than many realise)

For someone who's mature, she doesn't need to fulfil the law of tithe, as she is ever willing to be a blessing (not neccessarily monetarily) to the gospel and therefore beyond the tithe law

There are some things that are explainable, but its difficult to lay out plainly

@ OP

Interestingly, none of the contributors to this thread (who probably are all nigerians) seem to have mentioned any direct or far distant stories of friends, relations etc actually applying for cabin foreign crew jobs in the first place.
This means we might be able to safely rule out issues of racial bias or trust factors for the time being

I suspect it has something to do with the job being played out in the air

It would also be interesting to know the state of Nigerian employee figures in the international maritime industry. I am aware that quite a number of Nigerians don't like mami water experiences either

Evangelizing

With my burning passion for the gospel (gospel get the way im dey change with time)
I continued in school although I was almost tempted to drop out and be an envangelist

Some of my friends come dey use style dey avoid me
For the others, I worked on converting them
from xtianity which they where already born into
to emm, emm... being 'born again'

I was quick to lay my hands on them after some prayer sessions
and transfer the gift of tongue speaking to them
They however seemed to prefer my own
But well, na dem know. Make dem go ask baba God

I was a teenager, and did have some lil e..rections once in a while aplenty
when i looked at both the shapely budding girls of the world and the sisters
But I quickly spoke in tongues
and asked God for forgiveness

No fellowship in my school? how come?
I set about mobilizing for this to happen

asholism: Nigerians shud learn hw 2 respect our office holder, want 2 let u knw she is d no 1 head of d nigerian judiciary she has equal rite wt GEJ & MARK I wl urge dose u hv demeaned her integrity through dir comment shud apologise.

U ppl shud knw dat if she wl leave her office 2 any part of d country wl hv 2 b for d betterness of dis nation. She has rite 2 pass any where.

U ppl r character assassinator.

I now understand why folks are not upset when illiterates apply jungle justice to illiterates,
but loose their cool when illiterates apply jungle justice to literates

**I'm just trying to understand us better, No vex o**

*toothpick in teeth, after a heavy carnivorous breakfast*

So where una keep the photo evidence naw?

*yawns*