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And by the way Obadiah666,
Despite your many rants and 'once in a while' brilliance, it might surprise you to know that you're "preaching" to the already converted. A number of us have grown past personal escapes. We're now more concerned about others.

But, please back to the OP

obadiah777: Martin Luther King is a member of the black illuminati called the boule. what he was trying to do was funded by jewish white people. he was not trying to desegregate america for his own reason. he was trying to desegregate america because the 'jews' wanted that black buying power. during segregation the black community was strong. black businesses had to emerge because they couldnt buy from white stores. the jews wanted that black bussiness. desegregation was how they were going to get it. what happened after desegregation ? the once strong black community collapsed. all the money went to the jews. all the black shops got replaced by white owned stores. my point being MLK is celebrated by white people for a reason. there is a reason why they stay away from celebrating Malcolm X

The highlighted point is striking, and I agree with it within a different context. I have a theory on this which is contained within this context: https://www.nairaland.com/998137/great-songhai-empire/7

esere826: Thanks guys for this informative post. I enjoyed reading every bit of it.

However, I am worried when sometimes we use the word colonial masters in our description of the europeans that invaded Africa. I think that this is an aberration. Looking through history books of various western cultures, i noticed that they tend to term ppl/nations that went against them derrogatirlly, while extolling the virtues of those that were more closely aligned to their course.

For example, while Martin luther King is extolled for the peacefull way he went about his struggles, Malcolm X is dimminished for his recourse to forceful change. WHereas, in that same USA, the violent rebellion of their fathers against their British overlords is extolled, while the British impositions were derided in the same vein.

I would sugesst that instead of us using the phrase 'colonial masters' which from my little understanding of psychology continues to entrap us, we use phrases like: colonialists, colonial invaders, economic invaders, colonial looters, empire expansionists etc. I hope this soon permeates into our literatures, especially those that our kids would be reading in the future.

As I am not so strong on culture literature like guys such as physicsQED are, and might therefore not be able to argue rigorously on the topic, I am therefore hoping that one of you open a new thread on this naming misnomer . And maybe request that the moderator makes it front page so that it enlightens other Africans and emancipates us from at least some of our mental slavery. Thanks

Now, we've learnt from one of the commentators that the way to deal with my original post is to psychologically assume the personality of a hebrew jew or something like that. The same commentator also made an intersting point about not directly referring to Egypt if preaching in Egypt

However, it would be great to have more opinions on the original post. Thanks

obadiah777: Bruh ? the whole world is bigger than your lil feelings. you have to learn to get over trivial issues like this. so what if the nigerian named is associated with scamming or slavery or evil ? what has that got to do with you ? when you die you think you appear to God as a Nigerian ? these are just labels on earth people put on themselves. you gotta MAN UP to survive out here chief. you cant be letting your lil feelings get hurt by trivial issues like this. MAN UP

Yup. Point taken

Frederick is not widely known, Martin Luther King on the other hand everyone knows, simply because his goal was to liberate others even at the pain of his own life. Much like Jesus I guess.

So..... "Man down" for others might be more appropriate in this new line of thought

While the US was still neck deep in the Slavery after effects, Frederick a former mixed race slave rose to become an ambassador to Haiti i think. His family was still left in mental bondage. In fact, his kids saw him as white and hated him

obadiah777: birds of the same feather flock together. my loved ones will have the knowledge i have.

You ever read about Frederick Douglas and Marthin Luther King??

^^^

although this inevitably launches us into another kind of thinking, but do you realise that this silo effect could be slightly selfish, self serving

obadiah777: I would find it amusing and interesting. I think i may even like it. Reason being, just as egypt is not the name of the land mass called egypt today and those people are not really egyptians, they are ishmaelites.....so also i know i am not a nigerian, its just a name bestowed on the country by white colonists. i am actually a hebrew israelite, but thats besides the point. back toyour question, i would find it funny amusing and interesting.

Right.
it could be funny and amusing alright. It all boils down to personality escape routes.

But remember that while you escaped the psychological tag due to your personality build (of self-claiming another tribe), your loved ones might not be able to escape this tag and its effect

esere826: OK, as a strong minded person,

Imagine everybody around you both in the News, around the world e.t.c saying stuff like:

"Don't let them "Nigerian" you". And when they say this, they mean don't get defrauded. "How would you feel (considering thats its only a metaphor)?"

Answering my question,

I think I would first be mildly upset >> then I'll try to re-educate people >> if this doesn't work, i'll become more upset >> i'll then either grow a thick skin or i'll actually became a big fraud (self fulfilling prophesy)

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]IF THEY DID SO IN MY AREA, I WOULD TAKE A MOB AND BURN THE RASCALS DOWN [/quote]lol.

Pagan, u don start again

obadiah777: IF YOU ARE WEAK MINDED WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY, IT WOULD

OK, as a strong minded person,

Imagine everybody around you both in the News, around the world e.t.c saying stuff like:

"Don't let them "Nigerian" you". And when they say this, they mean don't get defrauded. "How would you feel (considering thats its only a metaphor)?"

obadiah777: well if you are preaching in the land mass called Egypt to a bunch of Egyptians, who are actually Arabs or Ishmaelites, then you have to be astute and adept. scripture says be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove. so in your wisdom you change the name to something else.

Excellent, now we are talking.

So this brings me to another thougt:

If I am an Egyptian, and anywhere I go within the christian faith and around the world, even on TV, I hear Egypt being referred to as a place of bondage and wickedness etc.Will this not harden my heart against Judaism and christianity?

Imagine everybody around you both in the News, around the world e.t.c saying stuff like:

"Don't let them "Nigerian" you". And when they say this, they mean don't get defrauded. "How would you feel?"

^^^^ Interesting

Lets stretch our emphaty little bit further:

-Would a preacher feel comfortable mentioning Egypt as a place of bondage and slavery if he or she is preaching in an Egyptian church filled to the brim with Egyptians?
-Would the congregation also feel comfortable with this?
-Would the preacher always have to explain before mentioning egypy as a metaphor for slavery?
-Or would the preacher simple choose to use another name instead of egypt?

Listening at service today, this tought just crossed my mind"
"How do Egyptians feel when they are reffered to metaphorically by Judeo-christians?"

Examples are:
"Come out of Egypt because Egypt is a place of darkness and slavery"
"Egypt means bondage"
"Egypt is spiritual wickedness and ruled by the devil" etc


I mean, imagine that Egypt was one of the tribes in Nigeria, and you hear pastors saying things like this:

-"The hausa/fulani tribe represents spirituual wickedness seeking to conquer and dominate the chosen children of God. We must throw away the yoke of slavery. Come out from the hausa/fulani territory saith the lord God of hosts and I will prosper you and make your days long"

-"In the bible, the yoruba kingdom refers to deceit and halotry, we are enjoined as christians to flee from her. Anyone who takes burning coal unto his bossom will get burnt". Pray that God gives you a discerning spirit to reject and bind the spirit of yoruba"

-"The igbo tribe represents confusion and usury of the people of Israel; it represents idolatory and the killing of little children. Israel could not fullfill God's divine purpose without Moses drowning their kings in the Red sea. Pray that all the stronghold of igbo kingdom in your life should perish"


(caveat emptor: I don't think that any of the chracterisation I have just made is true oo. Just giving examples )


Food for tought: How would you feel if it were your tribe that was mentioned in the bible and spoken so ill of by preachers some 4,000 years after?

Ndata: And what exactly has GEJ done for the South East since his election?The river port he commissioned was actually started by Yaradua .The only thing he has done for Igbos as far as am concern is given Ikemba Emeka Ojukwu a state burial finish!

The highlighted text is an extremely daft statement,very.


What you ignorantly imply by such foolery is that:

-The goal of any leader is simply to start as much projects as possible (,maybe abandon them). When they are completed by someone else, the credit should go exclusively to the original project initiator. ...Nonsense
- When a new leader meets a project on ground, all he needs to do is to ignore them and start new ones because he/she won't be given credit for completing those projects.


And you and you diseased kind of species (i'm not implying tribe here, but brothers in reasoning) wonder why abandoned projects litter the Nigerian topology. Although I've heard such kind of reasoning from drivers et al (sorry for demeaning them),I am really angry that some young literate nigerian can spew such gutter reasoning

Please, abandon stupidity as soon as you can.

ifyan: Hi guys,what​‎ is the secrete behind the rich'keep walking to the bank often'despite.the economic condition of the country.Both legally n illegally.
But the poor pray for each day to passby like speed of light.
Share your view especially those that have make it in life .

Its a zero sum game: for one to gain, the other has to loose.
If the poor gets richer, the richer will have to get poorer.

Once you've tasted wealth you never want to get poor again. So you secure yourself by gathering more

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]In all honesty, as a oil-rich nation, who benefits more? The People or The People?[/quote]Oh, I get you point. Just like Abati said, in this instance, you're using Jonathan as a metaphor for elite corruption

@taharqa
You said: "let's make sure this works plz"

Just curious, why do you sound so concerned?

Your post sounds more like you're coming more from an investors perspective.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Time to chop more oil money!

GEJ is definitely not going to want to let go now. House in Switzerland, Mansion in Dubai, etc.[/quote]You're kidding right?

The OP's title is very malichious, ...extremely wicked.

I hear that just like newspaper houses that are bent on selling their low quality papers using sensational and false headlines,
... some NairaLenders are also hell-bent on being popular and getting their threads to NL front page.

@OP, u really need to reflect on your life: If all Nigerians did what you've just done, we'll be eternally doomed

Sad

BENZINA: Thanks for your advice,never mind nobody will topple GEJ govt.GEJ has got balls but he has to do it his own way.Guys be patient with GEJ.

You're welcome dude

To Abati and his 40 man Laptop crew

I'm not one to be moved by the sentiments of the crowd. I do appreciate GEJ...... but his shortcomings are mainly his fault.

-He over promised just like all politicians are wont to doing, but so far he has under delivered compared to peoples percieved expectations. The problem was that unlike others before him, the intelligentsia were engaged in the process that birthed him and therefore took his promise seriously. Now they feel short changed, and you can hear their angst and rejection on the social media platforms. This should teach you guys a lesson

-Listening to Reno, during his youtube days I felt he understood effective political battle strategies. I was actually happy when he was co-opted into GEJ's strategy team. I defended him on social media platform when he was called a lap dog by someone in Saharareporters. But somehow, when I see the write up of the 40-man laptop goons, I shake my head in dissapointment. Reno talked about going for political jugulars in order to effect changes. this is exactly what I expected Jonathan to do in his fight against corruption, not pu.ssy footing and talking about legal/due process. Dudes, the law is a bytch, with her eyes blindfolded. In Nigeria (for now), this means one thing only: make her you who.re, or else someone else will.

Jonathan's hands-off approach to corruption, expecting that the system would fight corruption by itself is therefore at best naive. Forget what Obama said about strong institutions vs strong leaders (which the GEJ crew is using as an alibi), the context was very different (I'll not bother to explain here). Corruption has smelled GEJ's fears, and is instead now attacking Jonathan.

- I do not support fuel subsidy, but I was amazed at the silly reasons given for removing it. Plane dumb. In fact you guys need to be flogged for such elevated stupi.dity ( kai, i dey curse this people sha). What you guys came accross as saying to the intelligentsia was simply:

"This corrupt petroleum cabal is too powerful for me the president, to fight, so I will outsource the fight to you Nigerians. Afterall you guys fought for me to be president twice with your lives, you can do it again". Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!

To the man on the streets, you came accross as simply saying: "I don't care about what you think, those before me flogged you with horse whips, I will flog you with barbed wire"

Now imagine the confluence of these two groups of Nigerians. In fact GEJ was lucky that he was not toppled. In fact, if he had done this maybe in 2014 (with the prevailing condition persisting into that time), im for see himself.


-I love that a minority is president (he is definetley not worse than every one that has come before him). As Abati as rightly said, it throws a spanner in the works. We've been used to a certain version of Nigeria, that creates the impression that only people from certain ethnic stock are fit-for-purpose. Imagine the arrogance of Buhari's limited national campaign, thinking that that should hand him the coveted stool; or is it Ribadu's reach for the throne.

While I like both personalities, and don't mean to demean them, ...but what crap. Would a minority have been taken seriously as a presidential material if he was in Ribadu's shoes? Hell NO. I even recall Abati's article criticizing GEJ's dressence as not being national. The reason was simply because we have been used a contrapted definition of Nigeria. Now some are crying foul because 'strange' sounding names are appearing in federal appointments that would never have been given a chance in their damned version of Nigeria. Shame on bigots that litter the Nigerian space, and yet insist that Nigeria remains one entity where they can persistently despoil the vulnerable. In fact ehn, make I no go into the sociological constructs of a nation... you would realise that that says only one thing...WAR and RIOTS

- This is a long writeup, not meant as a simple minded commentary, but I am positive that Abati and some of the brighter of the '40' will read it. Finally, if you guys want redemption, tell your boss that he must go for the kill. He must make a public display (trial and conviction in a short time)of at least one of the biggest fishes in the cesspool of corruption. He musn't wait till someone falls out with him like Ibori did before acting. He shouldn't also bore us with Lamorde's little side shows of comapny staff that steal peanuts.

I must express my dissapointment.

I was recently engaged in a project in Nigeria, and the users kept on talking about icons displaying Facebook, Youtube, Twitter et al. I made a suggestion that we could explore also adding NairaLand icons. ... they all scoffed and made jest of the idea (though many of them constantly check their NL accounts)

I have taken time to look around, and I have noticed the blunt absence of NL and other Nigeria social media icons {logos)on business platforms. I even just clicked on saharareporters <http://saharareporters.com/> and saw Rudolf Okonkwo seating against a backdrop of those foreign based icons.

Why is this?
- Is it that we Nigerians don't think that our products are good enough to be branded regionally and globally?;
- is our understanding of 'global' entrapped in foreign enticements (maybe this is why we like hiring foreigners to handle jobs that we Nigerians can do, just to make our companies look global)?
- or is it Seun's fault?

WHY? WHY?? WHY? ? ?

so this is what happens at 2.00 am when the NL kids are asleep ? ? ? I seeeeeeeeee

Shollypopz: Physics doesn't flirt......he's oblivious to any form of romance
I'm beginning to believe Ileke-IdI

Chineke!!!!

If all of u pursue physicsQED, who would be left to pursue me?

PhysicsQED: "ROMANCE: Women are like safes; all safes can be opened, all u need is time and patience" - esere826

lol
I forgot to add ...."thats if you've got all the time in the world"

@PhysicsQED and Shollypoz

I thought u guys were discussing some serious politics and culture. .... now i see that its flirting mtchewwww

@Op's pix.

Naaaa.. i think this is not a 'real' bow. The freezed body languages of these men tells a story

Tinubus left harm are not by his side, and his 'shaking'hands are above those of Buhari's ... this is typical of a mock bow
We also see Buhari doing a laugh, and he is also bent in mock acknowledgement (mirroring)of Tinubu's bow.

Looks more like two folks wanting to talk serious business without having to be too formal

Blessed are the ladies who sitted not in the congregation of the broke (.....)
but her delight is in the throne of the rich (: Dailynews et al)

She shall be like a tree planted by streams of water, and shall never lack

https://www.jamesloveless.com/black_love_art/CooperFaceReality.jpg


This one is a keeper. One that a dad would do well to bequeath his daughter.

Its multifaceted, touching on almost ever stage of a ladies life in self discovery.
Trying to hold on to the security of the past, but acknowledging sadly that this is impractical and impossible.

First she starts growing little bre.asts when her mates aren't. She tries to hide them, but they soon pop out fiercely.
She gets into a relationship that she hopes will last forever, it doesnt.
She tries to make her looks less nubian, this also cant hold.

The exciting bit is the none-potrait of her after every stage of evolution. ...This is only left to our imaginations

5+ stars

Ah,,, this one says a lot.

A (not to0 young lady) who is about to have se.x for the first time. She's waited so long for this, and she hopes its as esoteric as she has always dreamed of. This is her one moment of tasting heaven and she fantasysis this is how it will always be. 5 star