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Penti-Cult-Stal False-Prophets

What has changed, people miles away from the situation living these movements through unverified newspaper articles.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=855953.msg10056043#msg10056043 date=1327614312]If Biafara can be tamed with all their ogbunigwes,what is MEND ? Abi you want ijaws to be exterminated ?[/quote]Exterminated? I guess that's what they're calling bribes, sorry, amnesty.

If he resigns, then you'll get your war from MEND.

62 years of praying.

I laugh in vindication.

Actually, the northerners are the ones we see with packed bags awaiting reprisals.

phantom:
why wont they,when your federal government cant dredge it,
and i hope you do realize that >%50 of the goods that come in through lagos are consumed outside the south west, so saying lagos wont be affected in anyway is indeed laughable, YES,a huge market is in lagos,but it is only because of the domnioe effect of a VIABLE SEAPORT and AIRPORT,
The ports in the east combined cant beat lagos' primarily cos of depth and the frequent need to dredge, but ibaka will turn out to be the viable alternative to lagos,

That around half the goods coming into Lagos leaves to other regions is even more embarrassing. I'm starting to believe that the easterners are no more than 5 million in this world.

Let's say the truth: The Igbo middle class is based in the distant over-crowded city called Lagos, they have created a whole society there and are embedded in the land. The only thing that's going to move them back to eastern Nigerian is a serious transformation in that region (which will not happen because they are needed for that), or if they are physically moved (Igbo people in Kano, for example, are only JUST moving because Boko Haram physically entered Kano and physically blew themselves up in their face, despite bombings happening all over Northern Nigeria for over a year, and pogroms for over 40).

We see the problem here already, the people who should be using this port (the port will survive, but this is about booming and taking some load off Lagos, right?) are not going to because they will not move from Lagos to suffer some months of discomfort, for decades or even centuries of having their own. Until Igbo people can find a way to transplant their middle and upper class from Abuja and Lagos into the dead city of Enugu, the okay city of Owerri, and the terrible city's of Onicha and Aba, etc. We will continue to see failed eastern project, such as the sabotaged Tinapa, and people will continue to harass/insult millions of Igbo.

Lagos is a strong drug Igbo people will take some time to take over, especially those that can't travel abroad, in short travelling everywhere on the globe is. Going to Lagos for an easterner is the equivalent of going to Los Angeles for an American artist. Some actually believe they'll become instantly rich in Lagos, I don't know if it's because of the limited choices, or because of the Lagos-travelling culture the whole of Nigeria has been bred with.

Anyway, I don't see Igbo people travelling in large number back to the east, even if a western standard ultra-modern sea port was built in the east, after-all they've abandoned Port Harcourt.

Ibaka can't touch Lagos because the millions of Igbo people/easterners aren't going to change their mind and move back east.

So to summarise, most people here agree with a rotational government based on several countries (not yet concluded) which will have 100% resource control (which I implied, but didn't state), 100% autonomy apart from the decision of the executive and the main legislature, and what all will get out of this is a shared currency, citizenship, military, shared weakened leader, and international port access. I agree, but I'll wait for more people to contribute.

Also, I believe that for historical, cultural, and social reasons, this new country should not be named Biafra, but instead after a major geographical feature, or an acronym, or something else with a native name. The name Biafra was given to the area by slave traders as a means of differentiating African slaves.

afam4eva:
In as much as i would want the old eastern region to come under one umbrella, i think a referendum should be conducted by the minorities in the east to determine whether or not they want to go with their eastern cousins. If the poll says no, then so be it. Infact forcing them to join an Igbo union is tantamount to an Ijaw bokoharam. But need i say that no Igboid group(Ikwerre, Ndoni, Opobo, Ekpeye etc) will be left behind.

I actually prefer an Igbo-speaking country(just so people know, I do not mean a country that will hold only Igbo people, but will comprise of Igbo-speaking communities), but this is why I opened this thread. But if there's a referendum and an Igboid group, like Ikwere chooses to leave, shouldn't they be respected for the benefit of both sides?

Thanks, onlytruth.

I know that nairaland can never be where any serious issues are resolved in Nigeria, I was trying to put out a message out there for any group that may actually have an influence when the time comes. I already know that half the people on this thread have never even been to the East, so they can continue on with frustration, with claims of being from the Niger Delta at the same time mocking their supposed brother.

I want to ask who the Eastern region is though, because no one seems to have a clear plan of what this country would look like.

I believe mots groups in the south can survive without oil, even though there's also oil in non "South South" communities.

Oh, irony. (laughing)

Any suggestions as to that?

It's not an opinion, it's an attack on the persons character. Since when is accusing somebody of murdering their babies an opinion? I'm sure you'll also be asking me to prove somebody is not a witch. You people aren't serious.

Desola:
, and if your people happen to be shish kebabed in the event of the struggle, you should put up or shut up!

They've never found Boko Haram in your region, in short, they've never even killed one Yoruba. Ostrich, keep digging your head in the sand with amosu tales.

Up regions that decided to stay at home and sit on their hands because their people weren't contesting.

Up regions who think the focus on Igbo migrants is because their people are not affected.

Abagworo already knows what I'm about to say. Southern Nigeria my foot.

coogar:
she has a right to her opinion.
ezeagu, no need to get menstrual cramps for someone else's opinion.

you either attack the issue or jump off a cliff.

An opinion that accuses the first lady of her country of aborting babies for Juju, very sensible and rational people we're dealing with here.

Your opinion is appreciated.

Iolo:
Well I think some of ur assumptions are wrong. The SS owns the oil and would never give anybody on a platter of gold should it be their choice.

I don't claim to be a geologist, but mineral maps on google are easy to find.

Iolo:
I should also point out that the Igbos in the SS to my knowledge are in the minority both in numbers compared to all the other minority tribes combined that traditionally makeip the SS and also in political power to control the decision of joining the SE or not.

It depends on where you call the SS, mind you, we're talking about Igbo people in the Niger Delta, and not any false-"South south" identity created 5 years ago.

Iolo:
I'm partly Ijaw and I can tell u that the Biafra days weren't happy days for most. People like my mom had to go school in Lagos cause the Igbos were marginalizing the few schools there to their benefit.

Because your mother can never be one-sided.

Iolo:
What am I saying? If left to a referendum the SS would likely choose to stay on its own. Same wiv the middle belt. An alliance between states  is a different thing all together and would be very much possible.

I would like to see Ikwere and all the other riverine Igbo communities in a majority Ijaw country.

Desola:
That was the evil plan all along.

Serves you all right.

Someone or some people have to die for Jonathan to live.

When he was deputy local government chairman, the lg chairman died for him to assume office. Alamasiegha met his waterloo for Jonathan to be installed governor. For jonathan to become president, Yaradua had to be sacrificed and now that he is the president of Nigeria, the Nigerians have to die for him.

Ask Patience if she hasn't sacrified all the children in her womb for him to be where he is today.

The man is sheer badluck and should be avoided, but we preached but it all fell on deaf ears.

Adieu, Nigeria.

Typical penti[b]cult[/b]stal primitive over superstitious Nigerian nut!

Desola:
There is a reason why GEJ is surrounded by ibos in his cabinet. Why? Because ibos are only for one course, and that is to break Nigeria up. They are all working in concert.

And if they want to break up or leave Nigeria why does that make you upset? Wow, obsessed!

Thanks for bumping the topic, this way more people can see it.

Abagworo:
Ezeagu you need to calm down a little bit and understand where I'm coming from. Your "Ikwerre is Igbo" and "Okrika is Ijaw" remains another big problem in the waiting for your proposed country. In fact the country will be worse than Nigeria.

I can really see it now, thousands of young Igbo and Ikwere (I guess) men strapping up and blowing themselves in crowded areas, Ijaw men killing, roasting and eating Igbo men just for being. Igbo men sabotaging projects in other parts of the Igbo country because they are Igbo. Certain parts of an Igbo country making the whole country ungovernable by invading and tearing down villages, leaving hundreds dead. Truly worse than Nigeria.

Look, the whole purpose of this thread is to ask for people's opinion from these places concerned, whether they'd join a union with the Igbo or not, even if they are considered Igbo.

Millions of Hong Kongers live, work, develop a tiny piece of land less than a quarter of the smallest Igbo state with a booming economy, and regular international visitors and investors, yet Igbo people in Sharia land are complaining that they've been Sharia'd?

Abagworo:
Division between North and South will be based on pre-1914 Northern and Southern protectorates. If an Igbo, Yoruba or Edo finds himself in the Northern country he becomes a Northern Igbo or Yoruba or Edo. Some people that belong to one ethnic group are not politically affiliated with their ethnic group. This is the case of Kwara and Kogi Yoruba as well as the Rivers Igbos.

What you're telling me is if an Igbo/Ishan/Yoruba community is in Benue, Kogi, Kwara, they will become Northerners, AKA Sharia victims. I know even you do not believe in what you just wrote. You should have thought longer for a better answer. As of now, you're not convincing me of anything except that "southern Nigeria" is bullshit (more colonial crap that no one chose or created in Nigeria that will never work) and that people clamouring for a "Southern Nigeria" haven't thought it through or are using it as an excuse for their own personal reasons.

GeneralGEJ:
Lol  - I will say again  -  Ijaws are not the only ones in the ND  - we have others like eleme ,okrikika , Ikewere and many others .   I am not Ijaw

Well, done, I guess Okrika are completely separate from the Ijaw and the Ijaw state, AKA Niger Delta, or Ikwere is no longer Igbo. You need to go back to the drawing board and create another account. This time don't present yourself as a clown.