₦airaland Forum

PhysicsQED:
Yeah, my mistake there. It's only a three out of four for the Yoruba-Igala correspondence. Yoruba did not have "Ahor"/"Afo".

Oyeko corresponded to Okuo/Nkwo/Ukwo

Iwori corresponded to Orie/Oye

Eji  corresponded to  Eken/Eke

But my point is there isn't a four to four correspondence between the Igbo and Igala days, and the day that's the odd one out (Ede) can be easily explained by the last Yoruba direction, "Odi".

Saying Igala "Ede" is Igbo "Eke" like you did doesn't really make sense, since, Igala already has an Eke in addition to Ede.


As for Onu and Oni, "i" and "u" seem to trade places sometimes in Yoruba names from what I've read, but yeah like you said, there could also be an Onu and Olu correspondence (n and l are known to trade places in languages).

PhysicsQED:
I should have written "exactly like the Yoruba compass directions". I already gave you my interpretation in that thread of why these names really refer to the names of the directions of the "four corners of the earth", and I'm not going to rehash that long drawn out argument here again, but it should suffice to say that claiming that they took three days from Igbo market days and then suddenly decided to take one day from Yoruba compass directions is absurd and it's far more likely that the correspondence between the four Yoruba compass directions and the four Igala weekdays is not accidental. That three of the Yoruba compass directions, three of the Igala weekdays, and three of the Igbo/Bini weekdays correspond makes sense in light of the interpretation of these names as direction names for the world corners, but not when interpreted with respect to spirits/deities, since the Yoruba compass directions names and the four Yoruba deities at/from those corners are entirely distinct.

PhysicsQED:
As for Nri & Idah, if you google even harder, you might also come across a certain article on jstor where M.D.W (Mervyn David Waldegrave) Jeffreys was given the impression that Nri ("Ndri" was a non-Igbo group that moved in and mixed with the Igbos and that Nri had  strong Igala links. We shouldn't take every single claim from these colonial observers  or ethnographers as gospel, but should study what makes sense and discard what doesn't. That they were there and spoke to people first hand and observed things first hand does not always mean that they interpreted what they saw correctly. The Igala traditions collected from J.S. Boston and A.J. Shelton do not suggest the kind of relationship between Igala and Igbo that the Nri story you mentioned suggests, although the achadu (the leader of the Igala Mela) was indeed of Igbo (and therefore, possibly Nri) origin. If one views the Igala Mela as the "founders" or first settlers of the kingdom, rather than the royal family itself (which may have "Benin" or "Yoruba" origins, or "Jukun" origins, according to some stories, or it may be of indigenous Igala origin) then one can make such an argument for Idah being "founded" by someone from Nri. Otherwise, the claim doesn't really make sense and the Igalas have nothing suggesting Igbo origins for their kingdom. The Igala word for king is Onu (not Attah, which is a specific title). One of the Yoruba titles for a king is Oni. There are many other Yoruba-Igala links besides that.

PhysicsQED:
lol, we've been over this before in that one thread, but the Bini interpretation of the days is as weekdays and the names refer to the four corners of the earth, which are named after the directions of those corners. I think the Igbo interpretation agrees with this in a sense, but you think otherwise and that these are names of spirits/deities.

PhysicsQED:
Also, exactly like the Yoruba, only three out of the four Igala days show a correspondence with the Igbo/Bini market days. The fourth day that does not correspond, "Ede" (Igala) could easily be related to the Yoruba compass direction "Odi". This is probably further evidence of a closer association between the Igala and Yoruba than others in the Edo-Yoruba-Igala-Igbo ancestral group.

odumchi:
Yes, you understand me. This type of thinking is still active today. If you go to a village in Igboland and ask someone "what are you?" they won't tell you, I'm an Igbo. They will say I am from so so so and so community.

In addition, back then, most Igbo people called the language which they spoke "Igbo". I'ts not likely that anyone said "I na asu Owerre?" or "I na asu Idemilli?"

By "fringes" i mean the extremes of Igboland for example the Cross River basin. Since there were many ethnicities along that basin, if you asked an Igboman what ethnicity he was, he would for tell you "I am an Igbo" followed by his subgroup as opossed to let's say an Mbaise man who would say "I am an Ezhitte" or etc.

alj harem:
@Onila I usually don't engage in this pettiness but since you have been calling Igbo girls the best Pleeeesssseeee show us an Igbo girl dead or alive that beat this woman

Obiagu1:
That is it.

By the way, culturally, is Edo closer to Yoruba culturally than they are to say Agbo or Asaba?

Obiagu1:
Topic: Is Yoruba closer to Edo culturally than Igbo is?

Obiagu1:
Go and tell an Asaba man that his culture was influence  

Obiagu1:
Really, from Onitsha to Agbo

alj harem:
tell whether this is igbo or yoruba in this pictures since you can use facial struture to identify people's group

LOL

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIOv80A1FgSKqg7WXEMru2OHImPmgXFKx0uRdx3JUB3R5XEssS[/img]

ak47mann:
^^

for real igbo-phobia got no cure,no diagnosis i smell fear 

NRI PRIEST:
Did you even understand what he wrote before you typed that disgusting rubbish You are mannerless and uncultured!!

High chief, anulum ife ikwulu,  Nga agbia nkiti site kitaa.

mbatuku2:
Igbo people are a very crazy stoooooopiiiiiiiiid set of humans. Some are still on their way there as we speak/write.

macjive01:
Nri kingdom extended deep into present Akwaibom state.

lagerwhenindoubt:
Comeback from where exactly - UK or USA or Brazil where Amnesty has enriched them so much that they have started r.ap.ing girls