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[quote author=Despicable-VII]
When you study "Race" you will notice the races of people who look the most alike share the most Racial Harmony

Like say, The Chinese....East Asians

Much more of a BrotherHood Bond Than "Blacks"

Ask yourself Why........ [/quote]Pay attention to even just East Asian news and you'd see that there's no "racial harmony" between east Asians. Yes, they come together in the diaspora and form associations to maximise their presence and strength, and they have a cordial relationship a lot of the times, but I can assure you that there is no "racial harmony" between a Japanese and a Korean or Han Chinese for example or even a Han Chinese and a muslim Uighur of West China, in fact it's the opposite. Here's a few reasons why:

Koreans who have been in Japan several generations are not seen as Japanese, they are treated like outcasts like every other non Japanese including Chinese, there's even tension between the Japanese and the small Korean minority in Japan, search videos on Youtube and you will see angry Japanese blaming Koreans for masking under the Japanese identity to commit crimes (like many West Africans do with Nigerian nationality when drug trafficking/fraud). Japan and China largely ignore each other and Japan sees China as an old relic and China actually sees Japan just a little bit short of an enemy because of WWII. Did you know Japan invaded northern China in WWII massacring Chinese men and raping Chinese women, many of who have illegitimate descendants in China? Did you know Korea (united) and the Philippines were colonised and occupied by the Japanese which still causes tensions today?

There's even a problem with some Asians when they marry from another country/culture. Look at the diaspora and you will see the Asians working together are usually the generation after their migrant parents. So there's no such thing as a "racial harmony", they don't even really see themselves as the same "race". They only cooperate which is what I think Africans should do instead of forcing some kind of false sense of unity that has never even existed since Shaka Zulu was raping and pillaging everyone around him to Nigeria dropping bombs on their "citizens".

Co-operation not "unity".

ChinenyeN: Andre, you misunderstand my post. Corrupt or not, I would have preferred that my people fought harder against did completely did away with the warrant chief institution, rather than going to go borrow external culture to transform warrant chiefs to "ezeship". I know I should take solace in the fact that the "Eze's" in my area are only ceremonial figureheads, but the fact that the "eze" culture has been so adopted is just "mmm" to me.

This is what I meant when I wrote about every part of Igboland being invaded. You don't get people imposing their kings onto you if your land is not invaded. It would have been better if the 'eze' that were imposed remained what they were, which is governmental figures, like a mayor or even LGA chairman. The communities have now made it out as if these 'eze' are legitimate ancient lines of kings with cultural power. The sad part is that once uniquely "republican" and egalitarian societies (like the Ngwa) are now in effect imperial societies (over 600 kings in Imo!)

But, most of these kings don't have much power over peoples lives and they can be easily replaced (although they're usually rich, and we know there's no such things as a poor man against a rich man fight in Nigeria, unless in traditional culture which is disappearing).

Most 'Igwe' (of which there are thousands now) pay for the title or is hereditary since most of the positions (over 90% of them) stem from British intrusion into Igbo culture (around 100 years ago). They were warrant chiefs who were imposed by the British and collected tax for them and did other bidding. Because of their history, and because of the way 'kingship' is in Igboland, they actually don't hold as much authority as kings from other cultures do. For example they can't make decisions for the community without general consensus, and they aren't seen as any superior to any of their kinsmen. The only one that I'm sure that is said to be chosen by an oracle is the eze Nri.

Blackteeth: Its all about the difference in culture. The white man's culture which involves the zeal to explore, innovate and adventure is what places him where he is today. This culture is been passed from generation to generation. The black man's culture involves very little zeal to innovate, explore, research and learn. If a white boy grows up in a black society he would take up the "uncivilized" African culture. The reverse is also the case when a black boy grows up in a white community.

I can't agree with this. What you're suggesting is that traditional African societies didn't have schools or explore mysteries of the universe, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Da infamous: European and American women Married to a Village in the Eastern part of Nigerian, dancing "Egwu Ukwu, agbacha ekuru nwa" (waist Dance. Women use the dance to prepare to take-in for another baby) we are too much we get oyibo wive dancing our ijele dance heheheheheheh


oyibo full igboland ooooooooooooooooooo we are republicans in nature just like white people...

I'm really tired of this inferiority complex by Africans. It has to stop. There isn't any prestige in European women dancing your dances. None of their people give a shit if you line-danced. Look at how they've given the women special privilege to dance on their own like their superior to native women. Then you wonder why a German or even an Indian comes to your country and sets dogs on you.

'Oyibo' is a minority in Igboland, and it isn't an accomplishment to have Europeans 'full' your land in the first place. And "white people" are not 'republicans' by nature (I guess you mean their society?), even if they were, it doesn't make Igbo people any less or better because they're similar to Europeans. You're actually giving the people that constantly abuse you in your own country privilege, something they never do in their own countries or even colonies.

A nọm ya, I just don't post as much as before but some threads.

Odenigbo Aroli: This your question is very strange; So you think europeans brought IGBA NKWU TO US ? I dont expect someone like you to ask this kind of question. Yea,maybe the ashebi was a recent thing but there has always always been umu agbogho who escort the bride.
In Idenmili anum nwanyi has three stages; First is iche ego,second is ibu ego and the las is igbankwu.
Iche ego; This is when the groom approaches the chic and proposes.

Ibu ego; This includes the actual introduction and paying of dowry.

Igbankwu; This is the actual grand wedding where the joining of hands takes place and the brides father gives the bride a cup of wine to go look for her husband and feed him the wine while on her knees...lol. This segment is also called "wine carrying".

Igbankwu is a traditional Igbo wedding which was invented by the Nri; Ezeagu,whites didnt introduce Igbankwu!! Yes,it has been modernized to an extent but it originated from Igboland.

After the wedding proper come the "nduna uno" and the "idu uno"...I will explain more...feel sleepy.

I wasn't saying Europeans introduced it, I was saying it may be one of those things that spread accompanying the other practices that become widespread like wearing okpu agu, or eating rice everyday. The first parts of marriage are general enough to be widespread in Igboland, the issue I have is believing the I gba nkwu wine ceremony was widespread or the same throughout Igboland. I could be wrong, but I believe different Igbo groups had their own variations of the marriage ceremony, just like the difference in their coming-of-age institutions and rituals. It's just my opinion through observing how different many of the practices among the Igbo were (or are, which is kind of fading), the igba nkwu ceremony is too specific to be followed by everyone. In fact, I've never seen anything mentioning igba nkwu in literature in the early 20th century.

Amalaaba: MY LONG HELD OPINION ABOUT THIS TOPIC: We Blacks are clearly inferior to the Whites in so many ways.[b][/b]
I have studied the following in the last 20 years and my opinion has remained the same. Here are some of them:

1. History and documentations of same
2. Calligraphy
3. Science
4. Community/Society Organisation
5. Civil control within and without

Just to name a few! We are so far ahead that a recent survey demonstrated that it was only Africa that regressed using all statistics of development in the last 30 years.

Every time i have opportunity of visiting western nations i marvel at their incredible mental power that makes otherwise impossible, possible!

If you can't understand how each continent has gotten to their current conditions and have concluded that it's because "blacks are clearly inferior" then you haven't even started studying. In fact what you've been studying is nonsense. I don't even understand the 5 areas of development you listed and what this has to do with inferiority, maybe because it's so obvious that with just a little bloody research we can find innovations from "black" kingdoms, states and individuals that check everything in your list. Let's just skim through those five factors:

1. By listing history, you've just shot yourself in the foot and exposed that you've done little research at all. What do you mean by "black people are inferior to whites" history wise? I'm not even going to go into this until I understand what this iffy statement means.
2. Every writing system (calligraphy) apart from that of the Chinese, the Easter islanders, and the Mayans came from black, charcoal, onyx, dudu, ojie, negro hands.
3. Oh, I'm going to guess you mean "blacks" are inferior to whites scientifically because they invented the gun? Oh, wait, the Chinese did that and Africans had the crossbow. Okay then, the gunpowder? No, Chinese. Cash? Chinese. What about their numbers? Hindu-Arabic. Did you know the oldest scientific instrument was found in Southern Africa? Did you know the Greeks had black citizens who they held in high esteem partly because of Egypt? Did you know Africans used soap and cream (palm oil and scented bark) thousands of years before Europeans? Do you know the amount of times the nobility of many European countries bathed in a year? Did you know Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Malta, Cyprus and France were either fully or partially invaded by semi-negroid Muslim moors from North Africa and that they stayed in these places for hundreds of years changing even the physical ethnic characteristics of the people?
4. Social organisation? When you have a neighbour in Europe for 20 years and you may never even say hello or even have eye contact? When an old man can be rotting in a house for 2 weeks without any neighbours checking on him? When you're in a crowd and a thief can hold you at gun point, you collapse out of a medical complication, or you unknowingly drop one of your belongings as you walk by and no one says anything? Is that social advancement? When lower-working class people are packed into tower housing that soon become a battle ground for gangs?
5. If not for the calamities that have followed colonialism, neo-colonialism and US imperialism, who would be disobedient in black societies? If they were given time to sort themselves out without the CIA or the FBI, or the KGB or the MI5, or the UN or IMF?

You go to Western countries and awe and you don't bother to ask yourself how they really got themselves there, all you can do is feel sorry for yourself and blame it on being inferior. You, personally, are you inferior to all white people?

ChinenyeN:
Profile.

What type?

Haha, recent events clearly demonstrated that Biafra is far from dead, you can't pretend even if you're Ojukwu's reincarnation.

When the king come in town, everytin SHUT DOWN!

ebere1712:
I will divorce anybody that says I cant marry an osu and marry an osu. Seriously people this is 2012.

And in 2012 women can't drive in Saudi Arabia. And in 2012 people can be stopped in the United States at the airport for looking ethnic. 2012 doesn't mean anything.

Vicjustice:
I didn't make any comment, neither pro nor against, so, i don't know why you took it personal and trying to classify it under the "all have sinned" phrase, or are you one of them?
   Well, i will not shy away from the truth, this is not just about church or "sin", but about abomination and taboo, a bad influence to a moral society: [b]H[/b]omos[b]exua[/b]lity should not have any recognition in a society with normal people. Period

I can't take people acting like they have some kind of moral high ground, especially considering how corrupt the so called religious leaders are. If molesters are fair game to be called Christian leaders, then how dare anyone put Christians in quotes on this video?

keyremotes:
The bible these guys read speaks against this very act!!
How can they now be praying to the same God who says this sort of
life style is not acceptable?

The bible speaks against a lot of things that are natural to human nature, including many things you do. I'm pretty sure you're not married but you've done the thing right? This is what happens when you adopt someone else religion you really do not understand.

Must be Jesus that started this thread putting Christians in quotes, you know, self-righteous and without sin. Typical penti-cult-stal.

Osu still exists very much and the kids in the village are not as Westernised as people may want to believe. They know who exactly is Osu, go to any village and ask for Osu and they'll either say their people don't practice Osu, or they'll lead you to households. Discrimination is one of those things that pass through generations without much effort in teaching. Not every community practices demarcation though, and the severity of Osu varies from region to region, but marriage seems to be the only consistent discrimination.

I'm willing to bet something hefty that 99% of the Igbo commenting here will NOT marry an Osu, if not for anything, then it would be out of sheer pressure since Igbo communities are the most family based in the whole of West Africa.

According to what I've read, Osu are descendants of so called criminals who had the option of either being executed, sent out for exile, or becoming a spiritual slave for a deity. I've heard Nri priests can take away Osu, although I do not know why they simply can't call a delegation to rid the whole of Igbo land of Osu.

People should stop being hypocritical, Osu has nothing to do with measuring social development, since we have so many other acceptable discriminations in Nigeria and around the world (3rd generation Koreans are not considered Japanese in Japan, the third largest economy in the world and member of the "free world"). One day your kids may perceive a woman leaving her home for that of her husbands as discrimination. Measuring your society on that of a foreigner who lives thousands of miles away is primitive as well. Jesus can do what he likes, but I can assure you 99% of people who discriminate against Osu are. . . Chr. . .Chri. . . Chris. . .

By the way, this thread was bound to go nowhere.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=871245.msg10220628#msg10220628 date=1329529545]I remember where this came from, you are feeding off the delusion and eurocentric mind of your fellow "oyinbo-is-correct" compatriot, physics.

How come portuguese knew who yoruba was, but Britain did not?   No need to answer it cause i know you dont have a clue.  Wait for the originator of the agenda to produce an answer to my challenge.[/quote]HAHA, because the Portuguese landed in some random area and obviously had to name some group they met there, who later spread the identity with other. Yoruba. By the way, there was no such word whether Yoruba, Yoribo or Yoruba used by the Portugues before the contact with British.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Yoruba teleportation, technically, socially, politically regressive, Arabian desert stories.

NovusHomo:
On second thought, I would rather keep NIGERIA out of respect for her unique place among black people in the world. Lets not forget that one in four of all blacks in the world is a[b] Nigerian[/b].

There are over a billion black people all over the world, do the math.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=871245.msg10219463#msg10219463 date=1329511099]Yoruba has been in existence before anything called Saudi.   Lamurudu (Almoravid or Nimrod, whichever you prefer) was the father of the Arabas (Arabs).  Didn't you read Ojukwu's thesis in Oxford?  Even Ojukwu, your lord, . . . talked about Lamurudu and Oduduwa's reign and power.   Beaf, educate this "foolagu".[/quote]If you like, Ojukwu could have claimed the whole of the middle east was an Ijebu market while he was in university. It doesn't stop the hilarity of the fact that the Yoruba on contact with the Europeans didn't even know what Yoruba was.

amor4ce:
[img]http://1.bp..com/-r2cvQQeioWE/Tw96Aror3yI/AAAAAAAACEA/qOqI3W7F8vs/s400/Hebrew+Japanese+alphabets.jpg[/img]

HAHAHA! This is KANA, it comes from CHINESE characters and was only invented around 1200 years ago, and no earlier.

[center]https://www.kcpwindowonjapan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/401px-Katakana_origine.svg_.png[/center]

Beaf:
Why do you always make racist comments? Do you have a tiny d.i.c.k or something?
Racists always have underlying personality issues that make them feel inadequate to the extent that they try to identify with feral pack or stir up packs they can identify with. See a shrink, you'll thank me profusely.

Inferiority complex. His Yorubatic gbomo-gbomo tribal ass wants to be Saudi.

Ijebu=Jebusites. Sounds like an Ijebu messaging board.

Remove the dead bodies. Have more value for human life than that. what if a child sees those pictures?

Ancient Egyptian looks like Efik, apart from that, nothing.

In fact, the whole world is black except for anywhere that didn't develop anything.

Old news, times it by 3.

Yes, I agree, he did not complete his mission, so please donate a plane full of his best friends so he can go and complete his mission, preferably over his homeboys house in Yemen.

namfav:
how true it is i heard something of a riot now, ibo again

You sound like you don't give a shit, and these are your own people. Probably one of the northern elite spawn.

afam4eva:
If it is true then i pity any hausa person in Onitsha right now. You dare kill an Igbo man in Onitsha? This is the height of it. The army should be deployed asap.

That's what I was thinking. Onicha is the roughest city in the SE. Somebody needs to calm people down and tell the Hausa to leave peacefully.

If this is true, try your best to tell them to let the Hausa leave instead of murder.

[quote author=j.pilata link=topic=866786.msg10157663#msg10157663 date=1328787988]This is unbelievable.A man or(the owner) may have slept with this animal.[/quote]That doesn't happen.

It's a deformity, like a goat with two heads.

Oh, illiteracy and lack of exposure!

exotik:
and where did the oduduwa one come from? from arabia after the son of lamurudu ran away from arab persecution becos he was a "pagan"?

Thank you. People should remember that the three biggest groups in Nigeria all have origin theories from the middle east. Yoruba's own is even stronger, because the theory existed before colonial times, unlike the Igbo theory. Only tell Igbo people about Israel if you're ready to find your ancestral home in Saudi Arabia.

We like talking about regions because we're too scared to take the competition to the global stage. Could it be because Nigeria falls below most nations in the world in terms of contribution to humanity? Well you're good at discussing other regions value, now judge Nigeria's value.

Minus oil.