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GeneralGEJ:
ol boy i think you should  find workers from the yoruba tribe.

Nice try at diversion. Try again, maybe with a different account the next time. A hardcore Ijaw mocking Goodluck Jonathan. Wonders, do they end?

Nchara:
Ezeagu,

The interest of any Igbo man should be a country comprising only of Igbo-speaking peoples. Such a country will comprise of all the SE states and SS Igbos who are willing to join with their brothers in the SE. Including non-Igbo people in your country will only result to a country similar to Nigeria: babel of voices and dissents.

I wager that the entire Igbos in Delta will come with us while Obigbo, Afam, ONNELGA (and perhaps Ahoada) in River Sstate will also come. The Ikwerres and Etches will be divided, some wanting an Igbo country others unsure. But in the end, with an Ijaw hegemony starring them in the face, they will have to make that quick expected decision. Opobo people will also likely be divided between coming with us, their original brothers, and staying with their adopted brothers, Ijaws.


With an all Igbo country as specified above, there will be 5 provinces: West (Delta) Central (Anambra/Imo), East (Abia/part of Ebonyi), North (Enugu and part of Anambra) and South (Rivers Igbo)

There will be rotational presidency between the provinces of a single 5 year term per province. The capital shall be in a central location (brand new) and there shall be 50% resource control and 50% contribution to the federal purse. There will be no indigeneship. Except for the presidency, you can contest an election in your province provided you have lived in that province for 5 years in a stretch.

There is no point even thinking about the Annangs, Ibibios, Northern Cross Riverians and Ijaws. Let them sort themselves out.

I will complete this soon. Running along now.

I only opened the doors to the Ijaw and others because:
1. people were still talking about them.
2. There are Igbo-speaking areas with some Igbo people in areas surrounded by these groups.
3. They seem willing to work together to get out of Nigeria, but I have suggested a scenario where the groups can easily leave a union if needed.

I personally prefer Igbo being on its own, but the land has to be negotiated.

GeneralGEJ:
Idiooot  - Is it by force  - I need no master .  What a cry baby  - my answers dont favor hence you are upset - ok wait for another ijaw man  .  I could care less if an ijaw man follows you.

What you need to do is trail off to another thread and continue your clown act there. Or you can create a serious account and contribute on another thread seriously. Now crawl away to further embarrass your lineage.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=852886.msg10030219#msg10030219 date=1327334503]beaf has been lying to them with his SS/SE coalition vision.  They got their eye fixated on Port Harcourt and what to do with it. . . . lol!   blind leading blind!!   beaf is going to sell your creeks to the ibos and you will need papers to go anywhere on your own land. ibo christian will be segregated from ijaw christian. . . the two cannot intermarry. shyytt[/quote]You've never been to Eastern Nigeria, and even if you have you don't know enough about the people here to even give an opinion on any sort of unity. What you need to do is focus on whatever your community in Nigeria is, I specifically asked for people from the old Eatsern Region to give an opinion here.

Abagworo:
@ezeagu, can't you read from the response so far what your proposed country will be like?

And how many of these jokers are relevant to anything serious concerning Nigeria? Somebody impersonating the president and someone talking about the Arab migration of Yoruba people?

Abagworo:
Any division that will ba based on ethnic group will never work without a serious crisis. I'm sorry to say that Biafra will not even succeed if the reason is simply because of ethnicity.

Southern Nigeria will work because there will not be need to re-draw ethnic boundaries .

So what will the division between North and south be based on? Religion? That will mean the whole of Kwara, parts of Benue and Taraba and even some states like Oyo will be with the north. Southern Nigeria is just a miniature Nigeria only with more moderate muslims. How will the competitive nature of these groups be changed?

Abagworo:
@ezeagu you can tell from GeneralGEJ's response why your proposal will not work. There will be a deadly territorial war because of ethnic and oil factors.

So why will a north and south divide work and a divide from the east (which has happened before) not work?

diluminati:
ezeagu you sure are a funny dude.  i've seen no one who's created more countries out of nigeria than you

It's the Nigerians themselves who have separated themselves into these sections.

GeneralGEJ:
we dont want parasites - we already have the rest of Nigerian parasite that we are trying to yank off - The last thing we want is another ibo parasite

I'll wait for an Ijaw to respond, meanwhile you can carry on with your clowning on another thread.

The Calabar carnival is copied from Trinidad, it's a vomit of a vomit, if you like.

First of all nairaland is the biggest Nigerian website on the internet and therefore reaches the most amount of Nigerians on the net outside of Nigerian newspaper websites and Western social websites.

The issues of Nigeria's unity is a dead one to many of us, so I'm proposing a structure for one part of the country that will be formed out of Nigeria. Eastern Nigeria is one of the slightly problematic areas in regards to splitting. This is what I propose, and others (from the old Eastern Nigeria) can put their proposals here that will be out in the open.

I propose that the former Eastern Regions be split into four countries, Alaigbo, Ijaw, Ogoni, and Cross River (the last three will use whatever their native names are). These four should be included into a union similar to the United Kingdom with a central parliament and one prime minister. The four countries would obviously have representatives in this parliament. There should be three capitals, legislative, judiciary, and executive. The capitals I suggest are Calabar, Enugu, and Yenagoa. I propose that the parliament is in Calabar, executive in Enugu, and judiciary in Yenagoa. Diobu (Port Harcourt, which will changed from the name of the intimate deviant and suicide victim Viscount Louis, back to the name of it's original settlement) is the commercial capital, Onicha after it.

There will be no states in these countries (these did not work in Nigeria) instead there will be regions, with Cross River each region will contain the largest ethnic groups, same as Ijaw, Ogoni has around 5, Alaigbo has more than 15 based on the largest cultural regions.

[quote author=j.pilata link=topic=852847.msg10028842#msg10028842 date=1327323296]20 years is too much,just before 3 years[/quote]There will still be ongoing issues related to Nigeria after a split.

Nigeria will not exist in 20 years time, that is, unless Boko Haram magically disappears and Nigerians get some clear indication that Northern Nigerians completely reject their agenda (just like the majority of southeasterners do not condem MASSOB or Niger Deltan communities MEND); unless the ethno-religious milita's of each region also abracadabra and dissolve into nothing (incase you're forgetting them, this includes OPC, MEND, MASSOB, Boko Haram, and the rest); unless Nigerians start to banish the selection of the paramount leader by their ethnic background/affiliation and Nigerians start picking the best candidate regardless of ethnicity who will rule, ehm, lead the country; unless Nigerians stop pretending that everything is jolly with the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, the Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba; unless Nigerians start listening to the cry's of people who's land Nigerians rape to keep the country's nose above water; and unless Nigerians can stop marginalising parts of the country based on ethnicity and create an environment that will actually breed patriotic citizens (I've never seen, heard, or watched a patriotic Nigerian from 1970 till present) who will put the country's objectives over their own personal and ethnic agendas. The real reason for corruption (Westerners and Easterners rape other countries, not their own, Africans used to, when they had nation-states).

We all know that this is not going to change, because it has happened so many times all over the world, most similarly in Yugoslavia who failed miserably (I don't know much about it's history though) at their attempts of forced patriotism and nationalism, the kind that Nigeria seems to be crudely doing (painting everything connected or even associated to the government in green-white-green).

There are many people who have predicated or wished for the inevitable end of Nigeria, these people have been a minority for a long time until presently with their numbers growing. Of course, there are many people still chanting one Nigeria, and will never stop until another civil war, which seems to be the next step once MEND and Boko Haram find a good bridge. People will continue to be stubborn until it's too late, and as we've been seing over the last three years, all the events currently taking place in Nigeria supports the predictions of people who expect a break-up (including the CIA who accurately predicted the events of the first war). If you told an average Nigerian 10 or even 5 years ago that certain Northern Nigerians will strap explosives to themselves and bomb crowded areas like we've been seeing taking place in distant majority Muslim countries, they'd laugh and retell the famous line of a Nigerian loving their life too much to do such a thing, I was actually in agreement with this and many Nigerians were thankful for the kind of Muslims they shared a country with after September 2001. So what about the Nigerians we have now who claim there can never be another war or a break-up? What other truths are really lies in Nigeria?

What we have to do now is negotiate the best way to separate from each other without creating a hostiles situation where each country ignores the other. I'm most interested in the number are make-up of the countries people believe will rise up out of the fire of Nigeria.

For example, I believe that the Igbo ethnic group should be completely on their own or with Cross River communities only because of historical and cultural reasons. Let everyone start thinking ahead before it's too late.

Wow, some people don't have strippers or prostitutes in their culture. Must be a myth that prostitution is one of the oldest jobs in the world.

GAR3TH:
Thats what I ask every time, boko haram hasn't bombed the south or igboland and corruption is wide spread through nigeria. The same corrupt leaders that are in power now will be the same ones in power in the new country. In other words, nothing will change except the color of the flag.

Splitting won't change the lives of those living in the south the same way the current attacks by boko haram hasn't changed how people in the south live their lives. people in the south watch the news, say oh my god boko haram is horrible, and go on about their day like normal. split wont affect anyone really, like i said its the same nigeria with a different flag

Yeah because no one in the south has family members who have lost everything in the north on evacuating. The hundreds killed had absolutely no relation to anyone in the south, in fact there is no plan by Boko Haram to Islamise Nigeria and there have never been any Boko Haram suspects found in Lagos and Port Harcourt.

ULSHERLAN:
Lmao can they READ and write english. ​ℓ̊ tot D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣ are against anything western S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ ​ℓ̊ wanna doubt if they would be able to use the internet system talkless type alphabeths

You need a new keyboard/antivirus.

paragonpro:
I avoid exchanging words with bigots who only know how to throw insults instead of engaging in intelligent debates.

Eya e dey pain you say we no go conceed one inch of land to biafra. If you like go and jump into the Atlantic or should I say the river niger at Onitsha bridge.

As your brother said Biafra would be a land locked country, learn to accept it.

I'm laughing at your hypocrisy (it changes from line to line).

UK Bobo:
We solved your problem before, you had roads, postal service that worked, smooth exit and entry into ports and airports, effective and small civil service, health provision, light etc,

We can do it again. Think about it. Put aside ego and pride and look at the stark facts since 'independence'!

Solved what problem? All of those things were run and built by indigenous people headed by foreign British. The reason why they worked so well is because they had the British running each region almost as separate countries. These innovations would have easily have reached Nigeria and been established without any colonisation, just like telecommunications and other things have been established in Nigeria. You're only going to annoy most Nigerians with talks of re-conquering.

Don't you mean cackle?

Na MEND turoble dem dey find. This is a fire starter.

What was the point of all the pictures. It doesn't stop millions of Nigerians aspiring to permanently settle in the UK and it doesn't make Nigeria anymore desirable for anyone.

Nchara:
BTW,

So does Negro and his alter ego Rhino know that there are uncountable Yorubas in Igboland?
The other time Igbos in Enugu were asking for free land to build their community center as though they cannot buy a piece of land and build, without asking for free land. Do Igbos in SW get free land? No.

It's funny how our friends who's main goal in life is to mind Igbo issues are missing from this thread. By the way, HeadBridge looks like a bombed refugee camp.

You already know what's coming. . . .

How do people survive in this country? It's a miracle!

Please, someone harvest his organs, there are human beings in Nigeria that may actually need them. No I'm not talking about feeding Berom, or offering tribute to witches.

[quote author=reporter? link=topic=851362.msg10018713#msg10018713 date=1327185789]Ibos sabi exaggerate no be small.[/quote]I like how you're fighting supposed ignorance with stupidity.

What's with the frustrated people on the net? Especially Nigerians?

Una dey look for MEND turoble.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=851298.msg10013281#msg10013281 date=1327139385]they're after the same thing as MEND and other splinter groups.[/quote]What resources are Boko Haram fighting for?

You can't fight a para-military organisation in their house numbering in their thousands and quietly supported by millions, that's all. All I say is good luck to any Igbo civilian in the north that's looking to defend their replaceable material possessions with their's and their families life.

Hardunnii:
I dont think so, infact i see lots of yor/igbo mariage these days, but there are few bigots like nchara, ezeagu, logic mind e.t.c

Typical unthinking, mindless, robotic, hypocritical, Nigerian zombie. How many of those marriages are you going to split apart after your plan to send Igbo packing from your town? let's dig up a quote.

Hardunnii:
Igbo, u ppl are bunch of cowards, leave south west and go back to ur cursed land, they don take all the major markets in ibadan. We dont want you(no one does). Pathetic fools

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=849414.msg10001864#msg10001864

Nchara:
So will the northerners also move back. Otherwise how come there are millions of northerners in the East after the war?
In troubled times I agree that Igbos should leave the trouble areas and the people from the enemy side should also leave Igboland. But  importantly they should minimize their investments in other parts.

I don't understand the question (as in the point), but I do not believe there are more than 1 million culturally Hausa/Fulani people in south eastern Nigeria. If south eastern Nigeria is dangerous for them, then it's best for them to move.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=851624.msg10017788#msg10017788 date=1327177906]Ibos would be landlocked if SS shut their access to the sea.too bad for them.[/quote]So I'm guessing you will be on the Igbo side since you are concerning yourself with the issues there?

The Yoruba will actually do better on their own, although they have to sort some issues about their unity, as those everybody. There's no question as to the success of an Igbo country.

Ngwakwe:
and they cannot all be killed.

Are you sure. Was the 60s a halucination?