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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9613045#msg9613045 date=1322022765]Already explained on this page. Reading really is an issue for you huh?[/quote]Maybe, so explain it in simpler English.

And jeans isn't Nigerian culture because. . . . . .?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9613031#msg9613031 date=1322022564][size=28pt]Caribbean also influenced the modern day Igbos. [/size][/quote]From the ancient day Igbo.

Thanks for acknowledging Igbo influence in the Caribbean.

Okay. Fashion is culture, Jeans is not Nigerian culture because. . . . .?

[center]https://www.fashiontrendlatest.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Jeans.jpghttps://www.cultureshockonline.com/i/Mens%20Suits/Africa-C-M211_Grand_Boubou_White-White.jpg







[size=18pt]Foreign culture in Nigeria.[/size][/center]

Maybe you can't read properly or something. You should try s.c.h.o.o.l. "Fashion is culture. Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture".

Nah, I'm sure it's Yoruba.

So you have a special word for him? He's that big?

Is he a Yoruba influence as well?

mbatuku2:
What is the meaning of Oduduwa?

Ọdụdụ nwa, last son.

Is that Yoruba for denim?

You just don't want to admit that grand bou bou's are as foreign to Nigeria as Jeans. If Nigerians modify Jeans into 50 ft head ties, it won't make denim a Nigerian cultural influence if others wear it.

Fashion is culture and can be brought through influence, yet Jeans is not part of Nigerian culture. How does that make sense? Nonsense ideas.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9612338#msg9612338 date=1322003171]PS: Fashion IS culture.[/quote][quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9612353#msg9612353 date=1322003461]It's not part of Nigerian culture to wear jeans, it's a western influence. That's simple logic.[/quote]See "simple logic".

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9612810#msg9612810 date=1322014083]Who is deleting my posts here.

I was just kidding with the last one- no need to take things serious.

Sorry if i stepped on a nerve but it really is strange seeing an igbo ceremony where everyone is wearing yoruba attire.[/quote]Could you tell us the items they were wearing that were invented by the Yoruba?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9611814#msg9611814 date=1321995871]give examples.

last time i checked, nigerian men in general are running haywire in every nook and cranny looking for foreign women [and men] to assist them with papers.

doubt its an exclusively yoruba thing and dont go there because you might be pointing fingers at others while ignoring the fingers pointing back at you.[/quote]Don't understand why you're wagging your finger at me because of your own observation. If handsome Yoruba men are snatching even beautifuler Igbo women away, that also means Yoruba women are left behind, or maybe the gap is being magically filled somehow?

Sometimes you just have to say good luck.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9611658#msg9611658 date=1321994421]we have to face facts here- most non-yoruba women find yoruba men very attractive.

i dont know the whys and wherefores but that's how it is.[/quote]Can I say I expected anything better? I think the answer is no.

Men chase women, women don't chase men (especially Igbo women). As for attractiveness, that's your own business.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9611658#msg9611658 date=1321994421]not sure where you're seeing bragging.

i'm simply commenting on what i've observed?[/quote]You've observed that Yoruba women are being dumped for women of other cultures?

A lot of you guys should stick to what you know. I'm not saying Orji is a good governor, but he has constructed roads in Abia State before. It's a bit of an exaggeration to say he has done absolutely nothing.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9611563#msg9611563 date=1321993258]look, lets face the facts here.

the rate at which yoruba men are gallivanting around, swooping in and carrying off women of other tribes is indeed out of control and i'd be alarmed too if it were me.

so the next best thing is to get this swagger or mojo or whatever you want to call it. Let the ladies see the thing wey dey shack dem in the yoruba dudes, in their own men as well.


if na agbada and cap dem dey take oppress these non-yoruba guys, then agbada will suffer a sea change and move temporarily to the other side of the niger.[/quote]I don't know if you know anything about Nigeria, but it's men that usually chase women, not the other way. And there are excess Igbo women on this earth so it's okay for them to go and spread culture elsewhere, like they are with other Nigerians, Caribbean's, and African Americans. Go and ask the Kalabari how it turned out for them. The hand that rocks the cradle. . . . .

[size=4pt](imagine bragging about your men travelling to find other women to marry instead!)[/size]

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=807895.msg9611565#msg9611565 date=1321993300]After they shed the blood of Oduduwa enemies, Yes![/quote]Don't even know what the means, but yeah, whatever.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=807895.msg9611483#msg9611483 date=1321992188]Eze, the ones in Lagos are already conditioned to see West as their surrogate home and political shelter.  It's an incremental psychological re-orientation.  In few more years their naturalized children ad grand children will spit at you if you dare call them Igbo.[/quote]That's good. That means they will one day hold office as governor. By the way are they spitting out Igbo yet? And I guess their licking Yoruba and wearing their desert clothes?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9610496#msg9610496 date=1321981652]There is no problem.

We welcome every potential yoruba into  our fold.

Let us know if assistance is needed with governance, romance issues, cultural know how, etc. We'll send someone over to teach these things.

No biggie and nothing new. We are all one.[/quote]Concentrate on converting the ones in Lagos first.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=807895.msg9608142#msg9608142 date=1321962841]^^^^^^^^^^^^

those are aso okes anit they

by the way give me a link to this. because that is not yoruba

thanks [/quote]You're right. What about this one:

https://lh4.ggpht.com/_o3RfR0wD8Y8/S3aPlQUg8VI/AAAAAAAAFVQ/qvhAWxM3OZA/yoruba%5B2%5D.jpg

By the way how did the Yoruba "traditional dress" transform from this:

[center]https://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkzd2rTypD1qc929wo1_400.jpg

https://lh4.ggpht.com/_o3RfR0wD8Y8/S3aPlQUg8VI/AAAAAAAAFVQ/qvhAWxM3OZA/yoruba%5B2%5D.jpg

https://www.adireafricantextiles.com/imagesres/ibeji2.JPG[/center]

To this:

[center][img]http://africa.si.edu/exhibits/styles/images/Drewal5319lg.jpg[/img][/center]

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9607990#msg9607990 date=1321961661]Anyway, I believe the main issue here is you cant be hating on yorubas while wearing clothing specifically associated with them.

So, i hope we can move on from there.[/quote]I hope you can move on from claiming things that don't belong to your culture, like an Islamic grand bou bou or a generic tunic, or people who are not of the same ancestry as you, like the Igbo. It would make your nairaland experience a lot more pleasant and saves embarrassment.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605944#msg9605944 date=1321931010]https://www.thedemoiselle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/traditional-nigerian-wedding.jpg[/quote]White man has legitimised your culture. Easily impressed by white people.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9607959#msg9607959 date=1321961469]^My point is just because the agbada is found elsewhere doesnt mean its not indigenous to yoruba.

Yoruba has been linked to sudan and the arabian peninsula (not arabs) long before now.[/quote]It has been linked to the Arabian peninsula through who? Odudwa the Arab? And Agbada will never be indigenous to West Africa, just like a suit and tie will never be Indigenous to Africa.

Just to put things back:

[center][img]http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_islam_87.jpg[/img][/center]

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9606169#msg9606169 date=1321937233]maybe.

it seems there are igbos who are unaware they might have yoruba ancestry.

they or others are unaware that is.[/quote]Are you not satisfied with claiming Benin? You want to claim Igbo for Yoruba, when Yoruba didn't even exist as a word 500 years ago. As you continue your ignorance you will continue to be bombarded with reply's that put you in place.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9606125#msg9606125 date=1321935902]there's no evidence indicating the agbada did not spread from yoruba to other parts of west africa.[/quote]Why do you like spreading bullshit? So Saudi Arabia adopted Yoruba dressing, or was it that the Yoruba were the original Saudis as you claimed before?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=807895.msg9606005#msg9606005 date=1321932666]king onyeama of eke [c 1870 - 1933]


https://www.kwenu.com/profile/onyeama/happy.gif

his story here:

http://www.ikemefunaanyanechi.4t.com/whats_new.html[/quote]And in what world is a tunic known as a Grand Bou Bou?

You should have left Igbo out of your title, then you would have saved yourself heartache.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605886#msg9605886 date=1321929724]Back the the head tie: Which region began or "invented" the modern flamboyant geles Nigerian women, esp Yorubas, wear?[/quote]Just beacuse Yoruba are the least traveled around Nigeria, doesn't mean they invented clothing. Bet you're regretting opening this thread.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605880#msg9605880 date=1321929653]Precisely.

PS: Are Igos being modernly Islamized too?[/quote]How many mosques in Enugu?