₦airaland Forum

sweet9ja:
GEJ can afford to stand up to them because, the Brits have nothing to blackmail him with.

He has not stached any loot there.

And the ministers who regularly fly British airways Business class, along with their children? You think they're going to use Arik air-molue, or wait at Nairobi for an hour?

agbotaen:
1. yoruba call  bottle   igo,  while  ika  call it  ogo [Igbo: Iko]
2. yoruba call bicycle -keke  ,in ika we call ikeke
3.yoruba call door ilekun or ekun , in ika it is ekwe
4. yoruba call nail iso, in ika it is ise
5.yoruba call human being- eniyan ,in ika it is ihian
6.yoruba call cloth ewu, in ika it is ewuru
7. yoruba call cutlass ada, ika call the cutlass kings hold ada,
8. yoruba calls a person that holds a cutlass - enitomu ada, while in ika it is called omuada
9.yoruba call air -afefe in ika it is ufere
10. yoruba call god of the sea - olokun in ika it is also olokun
11. yoruba call  god of iron ogun ,in ika it is ogun or idigun
12,in yoruba a sturborn person is called ikpata in ika it is called ikpata too.
13.  in yoruba knive is obe ,in ika it is ebeke
14. a small bell in yoruba is aja and in ika it is adza
15. yoruba call family ebi in ika it is ebon
16.yoruba call useless eti ,in ika it is still eti
17  in yoruba  agbada is a big pot and in ika it is agbada too


     ika   and benin   also shares similar words
1.  village in benin is idunwun  while ika is idumu
2. old woman in benin and ika is called odede
3. old man in benin and ika is edionma or odion
4. a stool  in  both  benin and ika is ekete
5. a palace in benin is egua and in ika it is ogua
6. a bycycle in both benin and ika is ikeke
7. a servant in benin and ika is odibo
8. a slave in benin and ika is igbon
9. glass in both benin and ika is ughegbe
10. chief in both benin and ika is ohaimen
11. royal servants in benin and ika is ibiegwa
12. a giant in benin is ahuaruan and in ika it is aduaran
13. police in benin and ika is ulakpa
14 .chain or prison in both benin and ika is egan
15. woman is okuo in benin and ika is okpoho
16. needle in both benin and ika is oloden
17. key in benin and ika is isafin
18. palmoil in benin and ika is ofingbon
19. light in both benin and ika is ukpe
20. plate in both ika and benin is okpan
21. bolt in both benin and ika is olaye
22. safe journey and good wishes in both benin and ika is  iyare
23. hapiness in both benin and ika is oghogho or ighogho
24. heneden in both benin and ika means something huge
25. deaf means odin in both benin and ika.
26.respect or honour in both benin and ika is ogho
27.money is both benin and ika is called egho
28. neck beads in benin and ika is called ikpehwe
29.during the igue festival in benin, they say oba,iselogbe which means happy new year and in ika we say obi iselogbe.
30.God is called osalobuwe and in ika it is oselobuwe
31. guardian spirit in benin and ika is called ehi
32. fan is called ezuzu in benin and ika.
33. thanks giving in ika is oyinmiseme and it is so in some edo communities,
34. please is dodo  in ika and some edo communities.
35.family in both benin and ika is ogbe/ugbe/agbon
36. agbon also means earth in both ika and benin.
37.to bless  means  bor in both benin and ika language.


       ika    and  igbo  language,
1.  hand in igbo is aka ,while in ika it is eka
2.leg in igbo is uku and in ika it is uku
3. eyes in igbo is ayan  in ika it is eyan
4. ear in both igbo and ika is nti
5. mouth in both ika and igbo is onu
6. head in both ika and igbo is isi or ishi
7. follow in igbo is sobe while ika is some/ buru
8. up or high place in igbo and ika is enu /elu
9. to call  in igbo is kpo and ika is kpo
10.neck in igbo and ika is onu/olu
11.bia means come in both ika and igbo language
12. run means oso in both ika and igbo
13. ugbo  means farm in both igbo and ika language


     words that are indigenous to ika people.

1.    saka----------------------   i  can
2. ara saka---------------       i  cannot
3. esi --------------       true
4. elenkesi-------------------   not true
5.msiko------------------   i am 
6.egilegbeshi----------------------    is it true
7.keti keti -----    really
8.erira--------   that is it
9. ele erira------------------that is not it
10. nina---------------------   like that
11. ele enina ----  it is not like that
12. kiro-------------what is it
13. kihain--------------why did you
14, ya hain--------  that is why
15. ra---------------   or
16.kikeni   ------   right now or now
17 . ogbe or hi- ogbe- ----   big
18.ekere-----------------   small
19. oda-   plenty
20 . mmaka---------------  ordinary
21.anai-------------nothing
22. irehun--------------------sickness
23. ohanemu------------------------did not talk or answer
24. inyenren---------------------conversation
25.gbegbegbe--------  waited in vain
25. gbe to build or to hit or smash
27.bie--------  to stay long
28. ara bie ---------------   does not take time
29.ikponfin-------------------------refuse dump
30.kere--------------------  to be quick.

This is different to Agbor Ika then, because 'that is not it' in Agbor is ẹlẹ ya. By the way, some of the words you attributed to Yoruba and native Ika, like "Ogo Igo" is from Iko, and Esi is Ezi, ra is ma, Ikpo ofi, are Igbo.

agbotaen:
well  you can say what ever you like ,i know no proper bonafide ika person will say he is igbo, if you ever reside in ika land proper,i mean if you live in agbor ,owa, igbanke ,abavo ,idumuesah you will know what i mean, well i know ika is a seperate ethnic group ,different from igbo or any other one,and right now we have just changed the president of the highest ika socio-cultural group the onu and ogua ika and the former chief fortune ebie has handed over to daniel usifoh, i bet igbo propagandist will also say usifoh is an igbo name,because there is nothing you people cannot say.

Then you better go an tell Glo to go and remove all their "Kee Kwanu" posters from Agbor, or tell the education authorities in Ika to stop teaching standard Igbo.

agbotaen:
why is ika peoples resolve always troubling you , itsekiri is derived from yoruba and benin,yet they are just itsekiri, isoko and uhrobo have almost same language yet they are different ethnic groups, benin and esan speak very close language yet they are two different ethnic groups ,so why are our igbo brothers always alarmed by ika peoples asertion that they are seperate,right from 1930 as documented by simpson the british colonial overlord,the ikas said they are a seperate group different from any other ethnic group,so our assertion today is not new.

Were they a separate group before or after Ekumeku that comprised Western Igbo towns or in the 1960s when prominent Anioma sons alarmed Nigeria of an Igbo coup?

agbotaen:
what most igbo people do not want to accept is that many parts of igbo communities were conquered or influenced by benin, especially those towns in delta state and even onitsha in anambra state,[/b]so many words were borrowed from benin , so if you say the words are igbo words then it means you dont know what you are saying,

England was conquered by French cultured people, doesn't stop them being Germanic, no matter how many French/Latin words the English language currently uses, or how many French customs they have from France, or even how much France has influenced their government, monarchy, and even education. They're still Germanic, and Ika hasn't even witnessed half of the acculturation they have, [b]yet you're here begging to be acknowledged as a conquered territory. Tufia, what kind man are you? I'm doubting you're even IKA, because none would ever claim to be, to have once, or to have ever been conquered by Benin, even if they were. Ya saka wụ okẹnyẹn Ika.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=804022.msg9581251#msg9581251 date=1321576743]Yes and NO

I am sorry ezeagu but want I noticed is that the chracteriszation and generalisation in ala igbo is done based on 2 things but one precedes the other.

1. Based on states
2. based on clans

Based on states in the sense that some families see clans in there own state more favorablly than the other, a sense of "next door clan/village" is better than going to lets say ezza in benue state or something

based on clans because some clans would prefer there male children marry within the same clan. Note : This is not a cultrual thing but just based on individual believes[/quote]You're wrong. The ethnic groups in the states obviously have more history together being neighbors, this gives them a stronger history being together and interacting. Igboland, and its culture, is like a gradient, so no wonder how the states are cut so roughly (using landmarks) and how its mindless to generalise a characteristic of an Igbo state when there are hundreds of cultures overlapping the false boundaries.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=804022.msg9581198#msg9581198 date=1321575043]dude I was just trying to point out to you your mistakes, and how to think of things if you really want this Igbo unity to work.

I have meant some anambra folk in fact lived in anambra and spoke to them, I must admit there is a sense of superiority complex to there fellow Igbos. ( I know some would think I am trying to cause discord)

You see, I am an outsider and a settler in Ala igbo back then and in anambra i meant some igbos from different states in the south east.

ok

Anambra [/b]people to me are seen as the superior Igbos and even the people make it know to us outsiders by using words like core-igbo, real-igbo etc. [b]Also they believe they are the ones carrying the igbo cause. thus an anambra man(quote me on this again) is likely to be more friendly to an Yoruba man or an aboki than to lets say delta igbo or imo

why you ask :- Because as they believe in ranking and believe they push the igbo cause and on the same level with the Yoruba or aboki man in both sophistication and politically.

Abia - they have a lot of inferiority complex and feel threaten by anyone or group. they live in past glories. They also believe they should be where anambra igbos are on. They LOVE being part of larger groups and a sense of direction which is similar to the anambras.

ebonyi- they are more or less the quite ones, Infact it is rare to see an ebonyi man in the 3 core igbo states.

Imo - This is the truth and I would say it as it is. IMO PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA ARE THE NICES PEOPLE YOU CAN EVER MEET. even better than gwari people (northerners would know this) . Imo people are a blessing to Nigeria not to lie. All the Imo people I have met In lagos, anambra, abuja, port harcourt etc have NEVER had any hint of tribalism or superiority complex. In fact talk to an Imo man, the way he is cool calm and collected, truthfully you would love the igbo culture.

Enugu- this are the ones that bring the live and let live mentality to us. They exhibit hints of superiority complex at times but not as much as Abia and Anambra. The enugu man would rather listen and learn but knows what he wants to do in his heart. He would not talk much, they are also very pedantic in there approach to things.

Now people would say I want to cause discord or hate between brethering but I believe once you understand yourselves and see how people look at this then i believe you can correct yourselves.

You see maybe you do not see this characteristics in urselves but WE see it. I know some would call me a tribalist for this as well given my past reputation

Lastly, I would like to point out that as Andre Uweh and rightly said, THERE IS NO GROUP THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH THIS YES EVEN IN THE CORE NORTHERN STATES. but it only becomes a problem if things like this are taken to heart or it is hindering the progress of the people.

I would love to see a day were I would hear one Igbo dialect, and a well unified igbo, yoruba and hausa, internally and Nigeria at large. DON'T TRY TO BE A GROUP YOU ARE NOT, TRY AND WORK LIKE THE WAY YOU PEOPLE ARE BUILT ON, DO NOT COMPARE YOURSELVES TO OTHERS.[/quote]I hope you know that these are states that you're talking about, and not Igbo ethnic groups, and that Igbo people (the real ones anyway) base their generalisations and cultural affiliation on town and ethnicity, instead of 20 year old states?

Abagworo:
I have read where people claim Nri came from Israel.So Nri could also be called settlers only that they probably settled earlier than Onitsha.

That;s if the original people still exist, otherwise we'll be calling a lot of people a lot of settlers.

Abuja Part Deux. Get ready to see your homeland fall into the hands of the highest bidders. All soul will be sucked straight out of this place of course to make way for several mockeries of Western housing.

NRI PRIEST:
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chuckdee4:
Finally someone's plucked up courage to stnd up to these Brits.
How can London - Atlanta (Some 9 hours) be cheaper than London - Lagos (6 hours).

These guys have cheated us for way too long. On top of everything their shakara is just to damn much, like they are doing us a favour after collecting their over jacked fares.

Maybe there are other factors affecting price, including the heavy cost of renting a space at Nigerian airports. It doesn't help when the infrastructure is also inferior. I wonder if airline crews have to "roger" customs services in the airports as well.

ayodeji1:
im wondering if those overcharged will have a feel of that money even if the airlines pay up.

I wonder. More money stuck up in the sieve known as the Federal Government of Nigeria.

Very cunning.

Onicha people are closer linked to 'Anioma' than the rest of Anambra State clans. Their clan is based there.

ifyalways:
Romeo=Ezeagu

Ọ wụ naani Romeo? Juliet na nsi gburu ha kwanu?

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=804022.msg9573241#msg9573241 date=1321483044]We all know that the relation of Ngwa to Ukwuani is the same as the relation of Ngwa to Ashanti or fulani.[/quote]What utter bullshit.

NRI PRIEST:
Wait until you see how those people are discusing the greatness of Anambra!

Anambra of 1991 or Anambra before its demarcation, or Anambra before the Nigerian government created it from the regions?

None of this Igbo identity issue is even an issue in Alaigbo. I don't know why diaspora Igbo like exaggerating issues because of reasons unknown.

'The Igbo language is dying' because Lagos, Abuja and US/UK Igbo children are not speaking Igbo
'Igbo people are not one' because some Igbo person insulted your town.
'There's no such word as Igbo' because you like your clans name better.

Really, all these things aren't an issue with real Igbo people in Igboland.

Before even clicking this thread, I knew this would be in Alaigbo. It's not a big deal in Alaigbo when someone reaches 105.

anonymous6:
To me language is not a barrier, and the pigeon English you say is the way forward is only prominent and known amongst the eastern and south-south tribes in Nigeria because they are the ones who really invented that. Language is part of identity to me.

shwostopa isn't eastern or from the far south.

If you're American or ________, your language is English or __________, everything else (except Spanish or ______) is 'other'. Sooner or later, if you're staying in the United States your 'home' language will surely vanish, just as the other hundreds of immigrant languages have. Germans tried to preserve their language and failed. Italians? Didn't even try. Dutch? French? Finnish? Swedish? Polish? Yiddish? All gone, (well, French creoles are still breathing their last breaths) and all these immigrants came to America and populated it in their millions. What Nigerians have to do is start accepting that they are no longer Nigerian in _____ country and try to bring some cultural impact and heritage onto their adopted/home countries, just like all the European and Spanish speaking American immigrants have. Sorry to tell you, but your great grand children will not speak ______ in the United States.

Now if you're actually seriously planning on moving back to Nigeria permanently and raising a family there, you better learn your language fast, because I believe English should not be placed over the native language, in fact I'm looking forward to a situation where English will only be needed in multicultural urban centers (like Port Harcourt) and in national government meetings and I believe that as Nigerians get more successful the lower class will bring their native languages over English. I also believe in renaming (like renaming the Pedophiliac Port Harcourt).

I'm not discouraging people abroad from learning their ancestral language.

Dede1:
The only redundant foo.l in all the posts is the donkey that posted Porsche dealership complex to impress his or her deluded self. Porsche is a foreign private entity and when it decides to expand its operation to other parts of jungle called Nigeria, it will erect the same facility as the one in Lagos or Abuja, if any. Why would someone with even a monkey brain inject such irrelevant plank to this discussion?

Didn't you know that Governor Fashola not only invented Porsche, but also the idea of a dealership?

So if Michael Jackson was cocaine addicted he should have continued giving him?

50 years on and Nigeria is still competing with Biafra. What a shame (for Nigeria).

martinosi:
Hmm so they are now releasing Videos, o.k, this is a Load of Bullsh***,
why were they not releasing videos in 2006-08 when they were
at the Height of their notoriety errmm i smell a rat here,

Arrested Boko Haram suspects below

https://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/06/19/nigeria-boko-haram-3_1.jpg

Do these look like people that know how to use a Computer/HI-DI Cam and upload
a video link,  *GTFOOH* Give me a break !!!

Are we saying there is no internet or cameras in the north?

This is what I don't i don't understand. The funny thing is that there probably wouldn't have been any suicide bombers from Northern Nigeria if they were on their own, just like the rest of the West African Muslim nations. Nigeria is bringing out the worst in everyone and this union is really not necessary.

So Nigeria has come to this?

What happened to all that "a Nigerian loves himself too much to blow themselves up" talk?

Yes, let them be led by Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan. It's the burden that has to be carried.

Oldest fly-whisk found in Nigeria: Igbo Ukwu 9th-11th century.

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Desola:
I strongly believe ibos can be president in 2015 if they do exactly what they did in May 2011.


Thumbprint quadruple times!

Before kwanu?

ogiye:
As there is mistaking identity so there is miss-presentation of ones self. and also over and under presentation of ones self. Our founding fathers made some mistakes which need be rectified,  we were miss-presented. Earlier the Europeans mistakenly identified us as Igbo because they hear us speak almost the same with the Igbos,  they mistakenly named us kwale instead of ukwuani our name. are we going to contenue to live in the past? did they not say they discovered the river Niger? some things are better not be argued over. We are Ukwani people. not Igbo. do not throw away my identity.

Thanks for completely ignoring my point about Olaudah Equiano, your 'Ukwuani' brother, who became the most popular ex-slave in history. Let's also ignore the fact that the same way the Europeans obtained the word 'Kwale' was the same way they obtained the word Eboe. Oh, they gave you the word because the language is "similar". So that means either the Europeans could tell the difference between Igbo languages and the hundreds of other languages around them and then determined who and who was not Igbo, (of course without their consent) or the people of 'Kwale' were okay with the term Eboe. Olaudah, an 'Ukwani' man, was more than fine with 'Eboe', as he identified himself and his people back home.

igbo2011:
Thomas Sankara changed the name of his country to Burkina Faso which means land of the upright men. Nigeria should do the same and do it in a hausa word.

Where exactly are you from?

I've seen old women with tattoos, what's the big deal. Nigerian can self-righteous though.

All this because I revealed their Arab-Hausa-Fulani past?

sheyguy:
That way it will take a thousand years oh!!!! . . . . .LOL

A thousand years for ruling? Yes, as long as it's not the same Igbo group. These groups with Igbo in their name are not the same, it is not fair to bypass them on presidency .