₦airaland Forum

renewnaija:
My dear friend, that Igbos have been living with them in peace pre-independence is no guarantee that it would continue after Biafra. A new country with new people & resources. Hmmm.

Like you pointed out, few Nigerians know that Cross River is one of the most ethnically diverse states in Nigeria & many do not know those tribes even exist which would make it easier to be dominated by the Igbos. What voice will we have if things dont go well for us against a unified tribe that have a common language & culture? Whose soldiers would they say fought for 'freedom', the Igbos or the other minority tribes, hence whose country would it be? We would be forced to conform & all those tribes I listed will be 'phased away.'

I rather be an unknown tribe than to be wiped out due to dominion. You may not see it this way but this is the hard truth. Its called foresight.

So are you telling me in Cross River, there are no dominating groups, or groups that are mostly in power? "Phasing" has been happening all over eastern Nigeria for hundreds of years. What other tests are there for "ethnic cleansing" other than an era when there was no UN, NATO, Red Cross, or UNESCO, to come to your aid. You're acting as if Igbo people only started realising there's something to the east of them after 1960. The "hard truth" is if Igbo people had a decision to domineer Cross River they'd do it with or without Nigeria, especially in Nigeria where everyone thinks you're Igbo anyway, making you even more voiceless.

Ọ wụ ego gi? Is it your money? Or is it California states cash, or is it mula?

Why are 'unrelated' people giving an opinion like any gives a fuck?

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Any dance in America is found in Africa, and more.

renewnaija:
@ChinenyeN. I'm from CR and these are the tribes that [b]might [/b]have been affected:
• Abayon -------- Cross River State
• Adim ---------- Cross River State
• Adun --------- Cross River State
• Agbo -------- Cross River State
• Akaju-Ndem (Akajuk) ------ Cross River State
• Anyima --------- Cross River State
• Bachere-------- Cross River State
• Bahumono------- Cross River State
• Bekwarra ------ Cross River State
• Bette ------ Cross River State
• Boki (Nki) ------ Cross River State
• Efik ------ Cross River State
• Ejagham ------ Cross River State
• Ekajuk ------ Cross River State
• Ekoi ------  Cross River State
• Etung ------ Cross River State
• Ikorn ------ Cross River State
• lyala (lyalla) ------ Cross River State
• Mbembe -------- Cross River, Enugu State
• Mbube ------- Cross River State
• Nkim -------- Cross River State
• Nkum ------- Cross River State
• Ododop ------- Cross River State
• Olulumo ------ Cross River State
• Qua -------- Cross River State
• Ukelle, Uyanga, Yache,  Yakurr (Yako) ----- Cross River State

But pls lets not hijack this thread. We can discuss this another time.

Nigeria didn't start in 1960, Igbo people have been living alongside these people for hundreds of years. I also have a feeling that over 80% of Nigerians would have never heard of any of these places and would never care or understand these cultures like an Igbo would, so you should ask yourself if the "unconscious ethnic cleansing" is better than being completely ignored.

P.S. A lot of Igbo musicians sing Efik, and a lot of Igbo traditions are Ibibio. You may have heard of the Peacocks International. You may have heard of the Kalabari Frederick Lawson singing Biafra's praise in his language. You may have heard that the second in command of Biafra was Efik. You may also have heard that Biafra was named by an Ijaw.

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dayokanu:
Nuff said

How many things are named after Nnamdi Azikiwe in this country?

Really.

Ehen now, even the British wey ke the thing didn't agree it was Yoruboid enough.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=813161.msg9659949#msg9659949 date=1322610902]@ photo

i suppose some will say philip effiong's wife isnt mixed?

another black nigerian of unacknowledged mixed ancestry?








and effiong himself wasnt mixed?






seriously, the number of non-blacks and mixed people involved in that war was astounding.[/quote]You're from South western Nigeria, where everyone's looks go towards Benin/Togolese so you wouldn't be used to these looks. This is eastern Nigeria. The woman is of foreign descent. Everyone else is not mixed.

South/Yoruba, should just forget about Kwara, it's part of the Fulani empire. Was it even in the Western region?

dayokanu:
Did she turn Yoruba here?

http://nigeriafilms.com/news/12942/4/bianca-ojukwu-in-sizzling-romance-with-commissione.html

Written by AKINNAGBE AKINTOMIDE.

Is it fear, or is it simply envy?

dayokanu:
^^ Nnwani oma

I agree with you. Its better to keep it in the family

But dont you think its odd that she is already shining her Kongo while her husband who paid dowry on her was still a vegetable in the hospital?

So she knew the vegetative husband would never recover.

You also heard she was shinning Odechukwu Retardeens knob?

You're a sad waste of space. It's even sadder that you use an uncle you never knew to justify yourself. I wonder what type of parents brought you up. Probably the type that lead to their children being murdered all across Europe for their idiocy.

Remii:
please explain highlighted portion. I thought Ojukwu declared independence or secession of Eastern region from Nigeria then took up the name Biafra, what do you call that?

You answered your own question.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=813161.msg9656943#msg9656943 date=1322580926]I'm even wondering.

So you'd have preferred what the US did to Japan to what Adekunle did to Biafra?

I'd much rather suffer at the hands of the Black Scorpion than 2 nuclear bombs, personally[/quote]Again, reasoning. Biafra wasn't in the offensive, they were in the defensive. Japan were invading and planning to invade much of Asia. Biafra didn't even start a war. This analogy doesn't even fit, because Nigeria was supposedly fighting for their citizens in the east.

oyb:
yeah, that why they followed up hiroshima with nagasaki

And why don't you ask yourself why they didn't bomb the capital or the most populated region. Believe what you want, the USA didn't starve Japanese people.

dayokanu:
When you go to war, the motive is to completely destroy your opponent

Benjamin Adekunle understood that That was why he wrecked the Ibo soldiers

Roosevelt understood that, That was why he nuked Japan.

Stalin understood that, That was why he utterly destroyed berlin

But our Ibo commentators think war is Play Station

Can we be surprised at this statement? Japan was nuked to shorten the war that claimed millions a year. He didn't nuke Japan to "completely destroy" it. Please stick to childish insults instead of misquoting history.

dayokanu:
Some ppl understand wars some dont. Benjy did understand what war was about. that is why his name is highly reverred in the Eastern part of nigeria now

People talk about bombs from planes, who is "Benju"?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=813161.msg9653067#msg9653067 date=1322537770]when you go to war, you seek to utterly destroy your opponent.[/quote]Why even pretend that you know what you're talking about?

kokoA:
Kano is the most populous state in Nigeria not city . There is a difference.

So there are more than 10 million people in Kano State?

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=549310.msg9654059#msg9654059 date=1322555399]so what dancers from the caribbean and africa that are actually well known for their incredible  abilities?

I'll wait for the answer[/quote]Can you dance with a spinning board on your head like at 4:26?

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Obiagu1:
Olee ka ime? (?)

That's Umuahia (Ọlịa)

There's also, Ị chọ ị rị ihe ụgbụa, Gini wụ áha gị?

"The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more ,  the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow. Unfortunately, my IQ scores have always come lower than the Asian average, but we have to make exceptions for outliers sometimes, don't we!" - Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997

Get it?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

mbatuku2:
This is really a cyclic argument. Back to the point I was driving at- We Igbo came from one source(the east).

Even Dr Elizabeth Isichei acknowledges this in one of her books, though she avoided being specific.

The migration[b]s[/b] didn't all happen at the same time.

ChinenyeN:
When you think of "ohuhu", don't think in terms of "Igbo" and "non-Igbo". That's where (at least to me it seems) you're having issues. "Ohuhu" is not an "Igbo" or "non-Igbo" identifier. It has nothing to do with "Igbo people". I can give you the stages for the development of the colloquialism, "ohuhu".

Stage 1: Ohuhu are our ethnic kin on the western side of the Imo.
Stage 2: Foreign elements made their way to us from the Ohuhu side of the Imo and began settling around us. "Ohuhu" then became the general term we used to identify these strangers who came and settled to the west and north of us. So any people, north and west of Ngwa were known to us as "ohuhu" (strangers).
Stage 3: With the growing exposure to other strangers, "ohuhu" becomes general colloquialism for anything/anyone non-Ngwa, non-indigenous/foreign.

**NOTE: We do not call anyone from Asa, Ndoki, Etche or Ikwere "ohuhu". I would think you'd already know all of this. Why do you need to verify from a friend all the way in Aba. Have you not thought to call your parents and uncles, or anyone from your local Ngwa chapter (I'm assuming you have one)?

What is the meaning of Ohuhu?

mbatuku2:
What ancient migrations? From where?

Ancient pre-historic migrations from the east.

Do they practice "Igbo day" in other parts of Nigeria, or is there a Igbo connection to Otukpo which I thought was Idoma speaking? Or maybe this is just a small community? Anyone in Otukpo?

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odumchi:
Where's Ezeagu? I'd like to see his Ika translation.

Well Agbor is:

Hello, how are you: Ńdạou, Ánị kị ị rịi? (to friends)

Do you want to eat now?: Ị chọ kị ri mgbenị?

What is your name?: Kị wụ ẹfà ị?

mbatuku2:
In your mind, that is. Most believe they come from one source. You few argumentative types wont change that view.

Not in my mind, in history books and folktales. The Igbo are a group formed form some ancient migrations of people. What you're thinking I'm saying is that every Igbo group is from somewhere else. Think about it like this: you have your mother and your father, but you are one.

PhysicsQED:
"The people still dig amongst the ruins of the palace for the bronzes the OBA and his followers valued so much. Mr. Erdmann, a well known German trader, on his last visit to Benin City informed me that he had seen the palace just after its roof had been burnt off and had taken many photographs of it. He said that the bronzes were ranged along the walls and served as historical symbols, reminding the historian of the chief events of the past history of the BINI people. Unfortunately this much-respected trader died on his way home in the year, 1904." - R.E. Dennett, At the Back of the Black Man's Mind (1906)

What luck.

mbatuku2:
It's the same people who were separated at a point in time. We cant all speak the same tongue if we were different peoples.

Igbo people didn't all come from one place.

Okay, there's also two Ndebele one in South Africa and the other in Zimbabwe, maybe "Ndebele" is a generic word in their languages[s].

Yeah, Africans let them set up trading posts, awed by their mirror and Western clothing like the Madras they imported. The Europeans were acting like equals to Africans until they studied them and went for the kill.

Look at Portugese men bowing to the king od Loango. Now Angola is an ex-Portuguese territory.

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