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[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=807895.msg9605527#msg9605527 date=1321923742]Yes I do

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HwV2a-lPB70C&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=carbon+dating+ife+bronze&source=bl&ots=CEmO0LGqdY&sig=ymVJha4-dtnjjFXfh5x4HpRTaqk&hl=en&ei=WkO4TrP_KY6ZhQegnvmfBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=radiodating&f=false[/quote]What page?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=807895.msg9605514#msg9605514 date=1321923512]correction. SOUTHERN NIGERIA

the kanuri dates back as 4th century[/quote]Do you have any links?

In fact:

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In short:

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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605491#msg9605491 date=1321923177]LOL About that flywhisk, where did that one start too?

I see another thread coming up.  

Nigeria and it's beautiful cultures. Finding the sources of each culture should be fun.[/quote]9th century [size=14pt]bronze[/size], oldest in Nigeria, got any older?

See the Yoruba influence even in Europe and Asia: "Gele" everywhere!

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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605471#msg9605471 date=1321922945]I'd love to know which attire we copied to the extent of practicing it during our traditional weddings.
I know that acculturation is not one sided, but plz post specifics.  [/quote]Yeah, that's because your wear Arab clothing, not actual African clothing so you can't be inspired by the Igbo.

Oldest fly-whisk in Nigeria, certified Igbo.

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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9605462#msg9605462 date=1321922860]Yoruba influenced Bini Empire who inturn influenced the Igbo monarch. Infact the Yorubas amongst the Bini empire may have been the one to directly spread the practice through the SE.

Still an "Islamic" influence.[/quote]Very knowledgable of history aren't you? 9th century Igbo-Ukwu, the home of Nigerian bronze (and the oldest fly-whisk) was influenced by a non-existent Benin with a non-existent empire with a non-existent Oba with a non-existent bronzing tradtion in the 800s.

Again:

ezeagu:
[size=14pt]Without being ran through by Islam:[/size]

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Its named Igbo-Minna, or is it Ijegbu-Igbo, or Igbo-Ora, I can't remember.

[size=14pt]Without being ran through by Islam:[/size]

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[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=807895.msg9605442#msg9605442 date=1321922528]and copy them  

sooner or later, agbada and gele will be touted as traditional igbo clothing.[/quote][center]https://www.punchng.com/images/stories/babatunde%20fashola.jpg

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The sum of some peoples culture is how much others notice them.

NRI PRIEST:
Ezeagu, nwanne odikwa egwu !! Some guy here even said Igbos are the "MOST UNIMAGINATIVE" group in Nigeria !! Can you imagine somebody saying such about people who invented their own days of the week, invented 13 lunar months of the year and named them(just like the romans have jan to dec),invented their own writing pattern!! If such people are not imaginative I wonder whats else

Maybe if we develop a word for jeans in Igbo, then Igbo children can later claim their ancestors invented jeans.

NRI PRIEST:
From the comments am reading here its sounded like someone is saying the Igbos didnt have weaving industry just like the other nigerian groups had in the 18th and 19th centuries!! How about the famous akwete cloth in Igbo land ??

Do you need to dignify such nonsense? When Eastern Nigeria was the only place with a sort of indigenous writing?

Everybody wants the Igbo peoples attention. Even those ran through by Arabs.

It really looks like a fishing boar, in fact the old Norwegian fishing boats that came to the West coast of Africa and take their fish. Disgraceful country.

Too much follow-follow in Nigeria.

Eko Ile:
Since you no gree listen, we'll finish it for you.

The only thing you're finishing is some politicians boots.

Eko Ile:
Olodo. STFU.

Thel altimate celebration , recognition and prestige for an actor is to be awarded an oscar, a musician a grammy, a lit writer a Nobel, not  sales or money.

Decades later, achebe is yet  to be recognized and celebrated with the highest lit honor in the world, no lit honor or prestige.

Achebe might want to go take lesson from Soyinka.

These ibo people sabi make pesin laugh, momey money is everything, no wonder you people kill and kidnnap yourselves for money,

Ah, here he comes, nzogbu, nzogbu. Empty drum.

Ikenga awards > Scandi-polito-aristo awards, okay?

Yes, money is everything, and if it wasn't you wouldn't be nairalands deeply fried political job-mens hype man. No one gives a shit about what white people gave a black man in some white country under white mans rules, just like no one gives a shit what you can do with western strength under western orders, get it? Mazi Chinua Achebe is getting his top 100 books on, and you're telling me what they're saying is Scandinavia. He who says he doesn't like money, ya ke ya.

wesley80:
^^ Maybe "found" isnt the right term I give u that, but you're yet to convince me Abohs influence was not that overpowering that your kinsmen thot it appropriate to name a huge administrative district over a small town along the Niger. Whichever way u choose to look at it, your ancestors were awed by a certain "Aboh" people and I can only think of one!

Traded slaves directly with Europeans, one of the first Igbo settlements to be explored by Europeans hence its old naming of Eboe Town, apart from that I don't know how the Aboh kingdom became this great empire all of a sudden. In fact, I can't remember reading anything about Aboh expanding its borders, or about any wars Aboh fought. Can you fill us in?

And this administrative district thing you're clinging on to is a clear sign that you're acting petty. Many of these districts were named by the biggest or most prominent town in the region, in this case it was Aboh, which is why the district came to be known as Aboh. There were no "ancestors" picking these devisions, except of those of the British Empire.

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As you can see there was also an Owerri district, Orlu, Okigwi, Onitsha (which is larger than 1991's Anambra State), Abakaliki, Awka, and so on. So are these towns also conquering empires? Sometimes you just have to think if this is how the majority of Nigerians think.

Eko Ile:
I know they've been trying to create this thread and finally they did. Silly and  insecure and low self esteem clowns , always starting what they can not finish,





Nuff said,



lol @ more celebrated, How do you get celebrated more that the ultimate celebration which is the Nobel?

Jokers. Wetin Achebe do for Nigeria? The man sit for NY playing oversea demonstration when Soyinka with all his Nobel dey on the ground fighting and risking his life for his country like he's been doing all his life. Achebe don spend a day in jail fighting for his country like Wole soyinka? No of course.


If you don't want to rubbish Achebe, you better keep quiet.

Reeled in like a flapping fish. Any surprises?

dayokanu:
Global coverage that cant even win a Nobel?

25yrs after Wole Soyinka won his own, Achebe cant even get close. What a shame.

What a shame he's on the 100 best selling books. I'm sure he can console himself for not getting that lilly white prize when he looks at his bank.

dayokanu:
^^ What I have done?

I have not and my people have not killed other regions leaders while sparing ours

Lets start from that.

Well done. So you haven't done anything, as in, laid back and did nothing. So are you and your people the best or worst in Africa?

dayokanu:
Ibos are the worst things to happen to Africa.

And what have you done for Nigeria that gives you authority over what should be considered the best and worst in Africa?

[quote author=X-mind link=topic=807255.msg9592809#msg9592809 date=1321736990]It is very likely that the girl is dead.[/quote]Yes, only that she's not dead. So there's no spiritual "for revenged".

Uhm, the girl is not dead, so there is no spirit murdering people The Grudge style.

wesley80:
^^ You tell me

I'm guessing from this reply that you don't know. Okay, thank you.

wesley80:
^^ Its my word against yours. Thanks but i'll stick with mine till you can tell me why Mbaise people chose to prefix their name with that of a certain once very powerful kingdom along the banks of the Niger. BTW what does that term A-B-O-H connote in Igbo or Mbaise? Its prolly a corrupted word i hear you say, right? Nice try, but it wont fly!

What does Aboh mean.

sweet9ja:
There's so much at stake here, it will be foolhardy and unpatriotic for any minister of the FGN to patronise BA while this dispute is on-going.

Hmm, patriotic Nigerian ministers. Interesting.

wesley80:
Very valid argument and one i'm largely sympathetic to but lets look at the flip side. Why should we discard our unique identity and embrace that of once vassal lands (no offence)? Yes we share same language and our traditions have huge meeting points but is that enough to make us Igbos as a matter of fact? Dont think so. This is like asking the English to agree to be called Americans - no they arent, the other way round would be more acceptable. Same here!

You have a loooooot of history to rewrite for Eboe Town, just a warning.

Its crazy the sort of nonsense people come up with.