₦airaland Forum

Don't worry, south eastern troops are coming to liberate you.

South Sudan is the least developed part of Sudan and its North is where all the money is, from what I see, so it's not too much of the same thing.

I think Ogun is in the south East.

What happened to the Nigerian military? Maybe they need the help of mommy Britain once again.

Again with discussing nameless drifters? I find it funny that all the top leaders of Nigeria during the war (Gowon, etc.) are now singing Col. Ojukwu's praises and probably developed some understanding with him while alive (OBJ), yet they never mention any of these nameless people. Maybe all of us need to learn the same.

This is a thread about a respected person that made a (good) name for themselves, right?

chino11:
Anambra is already making arrangements to develop a massive Memorial Park and a huge statue of Ojukwu in Awka. It will be unity center for the Igbos both at home and in diaspora.

Don't you mean unity centrer for Anambra people? Since when have you started caring for "Igbo unity"?

But even if Igbo people were descended from Malian slave, they'd still be ethnically Igbo.

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=813029.msg9670021#msg9670021 date=1322740233]Not everyone knows what is hardship and not everyone grew up like you with desperate wants and physical deperivations. Bianca's grand father Sir Onoh was one of the richest Igbo men and built one of the best houses in the East and the first storey building. Her own father Chief C C Onoh was stinkingly rich too and was one time the Governor of the old Anambra state. Bianca never knew whats poverty and couldnt have married Ojukwu for money. This confirms that most of you here spew rubbish and say what you dont knw.

What is more befittin than the greatest Igbo man marrying arguably the prettiest Igbo woman. Sounds nice[/quote]Why did you waste your time on a possible closet rapist? It's like replying namafav with an essay.

See what finished Nigeria's airforce:

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Yeah, that's why it's called Nigerian hip-hop because it's recognised as part of the US hip hop culture. If we're going to talk about origins of things, then hip hop dancing is mostly African anyway. And just because the US has people that are legends for them, doesn't mean Africans don't have people they and other consider legends. The only reason why this thread would be a joke is that nothing here shown is not of anything else but African descent.

You said "accepted as an Igbo", what does that mean?

dayokanu:
Both men are men of valour who didnt run from the battle ground or from challenges to Abidjan 

Wow, they must have been awesome individuals in 1850. Too bad most Nigerian youth will never know them.

I wouldn't know the difference.

dayokanu:
defending a war whose casualties you never knew

Aww, he can't read his own posts, but he can read mine.

dayokanu:
Biafra or the war

Sneaky, you said defending the war and its casualties.

[quote author=e-herbal link=topic=813161.msg9666966#msg9666966 date=1322692377]Adekunle Fajuyi;My Hero, I have a lot to thank you for[/quote]Better start thanking him by visiting him, because, apparently, he has been abandoned by everyone.

No, the music is, but not the dancing, unless you're talking about P Square. And. . .

ezeagu:
I'm pretty sure they don't have Ishan masquerades in Atlanta.

BlackLibya:
All the Igbo people are not the same ethnicity, because nations like Nri used their territory as asylum and freed all slaves who set foot in it.

Okay.

BlackLibya:
Anyone who followed the religion of the Nri people was accepted as an Igbo.

What?

I know. Thank God I hardly talk about the war.

Even buildings are committing suicide.

Probably hang in circles that sniff women's nickers or something. Imagine the amount of hours spent on people that supposedly killed your family member (that you never knew).

dayokanu:
This man is super intelligent
OP thanks for bringing this topic. Can you read how he floored the Oyinbo Journalist?

If only we have leaders like this nowadays, Someone who can stand to Westerners and call their BS in their face

Someone who can open up Nigeria's illegal drugs trade. Floored or disgusted? Probably was thanking god he wasn't born an African.

I wonder where it's amusing to disrespect women you don't know. The internet really brings out the low-lives.

dayokanu:
I dont understand you,

Was it Akinnagbe that opened her laps for Uju Okonkwo?

Envious of a countrywide bicycle? Why do we need a National carrier when we can all ride Biancar whenever we want

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

dayokanu:
Imaginethissorry excuse? try to engage your brain

The Biafra you are moaning about also happened before you were born have you thought of that too? So why not let ppl rest in 2011 about a misadventure of 44yrs ago

No one is moaning about Biafra in this page but yo . . . in fact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex

PointB:
@Pukka et al
This is a very simple matter really. If the countries he desired his body to tour accepts to receive him so be it.

As for how the Nigeria government will receive it, that is for Nigeria foreign diplomats to worry about and twist to their own advantage . Frankly the Igbo nation is not worried about how Nigeria will receive it. What sacrifice has Nigeria ever made to Igbos, that should make them worry about how the country will receive their dead hero's wish. What is important for now is to honour the dead man wish, and not how Nigeria government will interprete it.

By the way, who is Nigeria government? GEJ, Ayim, Sambo, Tambuwal, David Mark, etc? Are they going to legislate against a dead man's wish?

The main concern here should be whether those countries accepts to receive his body, the rest is immaterial. After the tour if the Nigeria government refuses honour Ojukwu or participate in his burial what difference does it make? Who cares? Igbos will simply honour him as Biafran President, Nigeria will be the loser in this case for failing to douse the Biafra spirit in anyway.

The smartest thing Nigeria should do is to facilitate and take part in the tour, after which they try to bring a closure to the Biafra issue by giving Ojukwu a honourable burial as a Nigerian hero. Any attempt to frustrate his final wish will play into the hands of extreme groups.

The Nigerian government HAS to bury him or they'll just be giving his funeral away to MASSOB, which is NOT what they want.

renewnaija:
ezeagu thinks we have 'one tribe in the state that dominates'. Really? Do your research on Cross River State & its leaders & come back & tell us which tribe is that.

I don't even have to go further than Calabar's histroy to see how the Efik have shifted the natives from the area.

renewnaija:
@ezeagu. You also said we will have a bigger share in Biafra. Again, really? I laff in Igbo. During the war, some regions were going to be annexed into Biafra with or without their approval. Is this a lie? Do you I hear someone say equality?

Uhm, just in case you didn't know, any annexing would have been the decision of Col. Ojukwu backed by his Efik second in command Philip Effiong. Cross River was part of Biafra till the end from what I know as history. How is any of this related to "ethnic cleansing" in Cross River by the Igbo? What's the highest position a Cross River person holds in Nigeria today? Oh, let me guess, "I'd rather be completely marginalised by random strangers hundreds of miles away than be possibly ethnically cleansed by the Igbo, who have been living side-by-side by me for millennia and have never ethnically cleansed my people". See what happens when you listen to randomants?

(I really hate when people act like their communities didn't once support Biafra, like it was just an Igbo thing.)

I'm talking about people from other parts of the country telling them they will be dominated/the Igbo are being dominated.

Yeah, but men-marrying-men isn't part of "Nigerian" culture (well, the ones I've seen), people can do what they like, but if it's being recognised by the government then the populations culture should have meaning.

Obviously, it's someone from the Cross River themselves that is saying the Igbo are the "hunter". So it's either "Igbo people cannot dominate Cross River people", or "Igbo people will dominate Cross River people", or "Igbo people can, but do not dominate Cross River people", you guys have to pick one.

Yes, this is how a lot of Europeans feel, only that they usually suppress it but the pressure in the world is squeezing their feelings out. Some want to deny it because they feel they are "Black British".

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=549310.msg9660318#msg9660318 date=1322619787]Im not sure what this vid is supposed to prove? None of that had anything to do with american dancing. Furthermore its a recent vid, and most recent african acts are inspired by african american style dance[/quote]Uh, no. I'm pretty sure they don't have Ishan masquerades in Atlanta, unless I missed something. These are just videos that can be found on youtube, there are other indigenous people who flip, spin and hand stand while dancing. I'm sure American dancing has nothing to do with Africa. . . .

renewnaija:
This is the dominating mentality I'm talking about. I'm glad you accept there will a 'domination'. So of what use will it be to join Biafra when ppl like you think we are already voiceless?

What voice do you have? You have no voice obviously that's why you're here complaining about possibly being "ethnically cleaned" by a heavily fragmented group who not only have no history of "ethnically cleansing" your people after thousands of years of cohabiting, but have actually picked up Cross River culture in British-French-like portions. If you're confident about your language and culture then you wouldn't be here lamenting over "ethnic cleansing" that has never happened. You lived next to a dangerous Igbo confederacy for at least 200 years and even they were partly Ibibio, now you want to stir up some dust because of what some people 200 miles away are telling you. People who have no history with you and would shrug their shoulder if the Igbo were to have a conflict with you. People who don't really give a shit about what the difference between an Ibibio and Efik is except if it is to weaken you?

renewnaija:
At least we have reps in the Legislative arm of the Nigerian Govt presently (however docile they may be).

And how is that better than being second in command of the country, or being at least 2/5 of the country? You have reps in the country, yet how much development compared to your potential have you got. Meanwhile in Biafra they're refining oil. . . You'd rather stay in a failed state and be dominated by three groups than be in a country where you would have a bigger share.

renewnaija:
Moreover, I have never been mistaken to be Igbo in Nigeria so your statement is greatly flawed.

Well that's great for you. Greatly flawed? No, because I bet I can trick even you into calling an Igbo community a Cross River one, and versa. In fact there's Igbo over the Cross River.

renewnaija:
If you think it is easy for the Igbos to dominate a State like CR, then why havent they done so or with oil-rich Akwa Ibom or Rivers or Delta?

That's my question to you. And don't start acting like you didn't place the Igbo in a domineering position when you started out on this thread; you're the one telling us about the people with "similar language and culture" dominating the "minorities", so you're the one who thinks its easy for Igbo people to "phase out" your culture. It's like me talking about British people possibly "ethnically cleansing" Igbo people and their ability to dominate Igbo people, then turn around and get offended when the British person claims Britain can dominate Igbo people. Makes no sense.

renewnaija:
Can they dare try it in Nigeria? No. Can they do it in Biafra? A resounding YES!

And if they "dare" try it in Nigeria what will happen? I guess you'll come back with something that paints Igbo people as Imperial Japan or the British Empire? The rest of Nigeria doesn't even really give one when it comes to whose Igbo and who isn't in the east because they see the east as all Igbo. The attitude only changes when something can be gotten from a section of the east, ala, "south south", or when they can weaken it by dividing it, ala, you.