₦airaland Forum

ROSSIKE:
ezeagu said:
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Picking at things? You call a 7% literacy rate at independence ''picking at things''?

It's not your fault actually. Afterall, if the Nigerian govt had not decided to bring mass education to the people, you would not have been here typing praise to those who preferred you to be illiterate!

I don't know where you're getting the percent from, literacy was different from area to area. You're picking at things, and you have no solid point except for "the British were bad!" We're not talking about their intentions, we're talking about what they did and what they were going to do, and much of it was positive for Nigerians. You're here arguing in English and you say it's because of the Nigerian government. I wonder if this is the same Nigeria where people would rather go to University abroad.

ROSSIKE:
BECAUSE THEY DID!!!

What ''whole railway'' did the British build? One track that went from Nguru (north) to Lagos (south). Another that went from Maiduguri (north) to Port Harcourt (south). All tracks led to the PORTS.

So a railway stretching several hundred miles to a port isn't a whole railway? Two they built. So the railway did nothing for Nigerian cities and economies?

ROSSIKE:
Defender of colonialist THIEVES.

You sound like a mad person on the street instead of someone that's trying to explain themselves. Or do you not just sound?

ROSSIKE:
They built NOTHING.

Mad.

ROSSIKE:
Maybe they built YOUR house or your father's house.

Definitely the talk of a mad street person.

ROSSIKE:
But for the vast majority of Nigerians, the British colonial rulers did a big fat NOTHING.

Hospitals, roads, education, ports, new cities, planned cities, nothing?

ROSSIKE:
That is why, despite, your ridiculous objections, the vast majority of our grandparents and great grandparents were STARK ILLITERATES.

I think this is a regional thing then, because the majority of old people I've met can speak English better than younger Nigerians today. If you're grandparents are illiterates it does not mean everybody else has illiterate ones.

ROSSIKE:
NOT because Nigeria couldn't afford to educate them, (afterall where did Awo suddenly find the money to enact free education right after independence?).

But because the ROGUE COLONIAL REGIME you slavishly support deliberately WITHELD education from the majority.

Maybe they withheld education from some regions for political games, okay, but there are many people who will remind you of schools built as early as the 1890's. I'm not slavishly supporting anything, I just like to say the truth when I see it, and let me say it again.

[size=18pt]Nigeria would be better now if it were still a British colony.[/size]

udezue:
Folks like filled with so much anti-Igbo crap can't seem to think straight.

They're constantly ready to pounce.

[size=20pt]Find work.[/size]

ROSSIKE:
ezeagu said:

So when the people stopped being ''hostile'' in 1902 it took the British another 50 years before they built a university?

How would you like say the PDP govt to suspend all investment in higher education for the next 50 years?

Will you be singing their praises at the end of that period?

Even if they left you one elitist  ''university college'' that ''competes with the best in the world'' while 99.95% of our young minds rot in illiteracy?

Would you praise the PDP for their ''achievement''?

So why would you praise the British??

I just think your picking at things. They built a whole railway before 1920 but we will still pick and say they built it to exploit. It's okay, the British did nothing for Nigeria except build the whole thing.

ROSSIKE:
ezeagu said:

I actually meant the 1800s, as in the 19th century. ie 1800 to 1899, not simply 1800-1809.

The British effectively ruled Nigeria after the conquest of Benin in 1897 although they essentially controlled the region from at least 1885.

How do you start building universities in a region that was still hostile till around 1902? Anyway.

chizzy09:
cus they dont go about wanting to belong where they shouldnt or looking for people copying them. they are contented with being themselves but the igbos are always trying to compare theirselves to somebody else without having nothing out of it, i guess they feel more complex afterwards. well, its not in my style to believe in one mans superiority to another but some of your blogs about the ikwerres being igbos and answering your names just piss me off, u should just be igbos, get paid for it and get your monkey hands off the other mans manliness

Everybody knows that the Ikwerre are not Igbo. Have you heard? Bye bye.

All these people trying to feel important sef.

Do the Igbo need to beat their own chest? Don't you see BBC newscasters doing it in every documentary? 'Ajokuta ma mumi', do you know what that means?

dayokanu:
Yawns.

I cared small.

dayokanu:
Did you see the Adekunle wuz 'ere in your community too?

Too bad, suck it up like a man

No, just some stories about shells with Great Britain written on them. Shame they'd treat the Igbo so harsh for being the only ones that gave them a worthy challenge of resistance in West Africa, well apart from Benin. Who would people rather associate with, lap dogs, or people who will die for their freedom? I'll suck it up like an early 20th century Aba woman against the odds.

dayokanu:
Typical. You start it, we end it on our own terms. Just like Adekunle told you guys

Start what? Ended where? With Igbo people all over Nigeria again, businesses everywhere again. Oh you were talking about this thread, sorry.

dayokanu:
Ohh I forgot there are only 50 posts on this thread? Why not bother about those that came before those 50?

No, but the people that carry the thread and making sure the thread is still alive are in the last 50 posts.

dayokanu:
Like your folks, We should worry about Biafra and not about january 1966

We should be sorrowful for victims of pogroms and Biafra but not worry about victims in  midwest, Ore or about politicians killed.

Pathetic

I didn't ask anyone to cry for Biafra victims or to worry about any irrelevant events that happened 5 decades ago when the cold war was still hot news.  I could care less about random politicians who hold no relevance to the advancement and development of my community, or who even had no plans for the advancement of my community when they were in power. Pogroms are not relevant today because most Igbo people have moved on from it and have stood up again to be the most developed people in Nigeria. What is there to cry about?

dayokanu:
^^ Dont worry about us in Ogbomoso, we are doing just fine, Worry more about your kins and give them proper training on how not to attack and kill other people else they would bring sorrow to your heartlands like it happened before

Why should I not worry about Ogbomoso, it is in my corntri. You're talking about these killings like they happened in 2010, were you even born then? Stop the bore. There are probably a few Igbo people in Ogbmoso who probably lost relatives in the war but are doing more for that town than you have done all your life. In fact what have you done for Ogbomoso? Same for some Yoruba in Igbo towns. Now if you want to have your people go into their own country, fine, but bragging about things that you have little to do with will not create border control.

dayokanu:
Hope you and your kinsmen can take your own advice and stop boring us about stories of pogroms of victims of Biafra of more than 40yrs ago

Yes, it has been majority Igbo posters posting for the last 50 posts. Trying to hold on to that one flimsy victory handed to you by John Bull? Again, go and make threads about developing Ogbomoso, I'm sure it would be good for your village.

chizzy09:
the igbos fought a war and lost and now they claim the ikwerres are igbos? u fools must be very pathetic,  some igbo names are similar to ikwerre names,  aint that a naughty woman, huh? peace

Sea water in head results.

jason123:
of what

I was going to ask you the same.

jason123:
You are a joke!

Are you afraid?

ROSSIKE:
Do you realise that Britain built their first engineering schools and universities in their Indian, Egypt, SA, and other non black colonies right from the 1800s?

Britain weren't even on Nigerian soil till the 1880's and even then Nigeria wasn't a British colony.

jason123:
May God bless you. They do not like response, do they? Hypocrites to the high heavens. Everyone knows you and Dayokanu are neutrals but somehow, they have a way of changing neutrals against them .

Well, I repeat, GOD BLESS YOU!!! . Infact, you are blessed in a million ways!!!

Round up all your "neutrals" and tell them to fly into a dung pile, who cares?

SapeleGuy:
Useless?

Yes useless. Still talking about things that happened 40 years ago, here, why don't you focus all that energy on something that will put money in your pocket.

SapeleGuy:
After leading the onslaught and dancing on the graves of Okotie-Eboh, Balewa and Akintola, you have now found your senses and are now pretending to be responsible.  Hypocrite.

Your double standards are shamefully amazing but thankfully the whole of Nigeria has seen through the nefarious, iniquitous  duplicity of leaders who run away to Ivory Coast & Ireland when the chips are down leaving their people to die like flies for their lies.

Martyrs like Akintola, Balewa, Okotie -Eboh and the other innocents slaughtered in that coup have the bonafide respect of every right thinking Nigerian. 
Every time you people attempt to desecrate their memory either by commission or ommission, you will always get a swift backhander to jog your memory.

I couldn't care less about these people enough to talk about them, whether something nice or not. I haven't even mentioned any of them in my posts because they are not relevant anymore. All that this foolish essay shows is your eagerness to 'show the Igbo'. Yawn. Lean back. Look at useless people.

You're still going on? Why don't you just start preparing on your plans for leaving Nigeria. I think that's the best thing instead of spending so much time on people you don't care much about (like you people do over again and again and again and again). Up Oduduwa. Byeeee!

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=597261.msg7688177#msg7688177 date=1297143290]About the Ngwa as a whole being "homogeneous(I'm kind of uncomfortable with this word too but for the sake of argument I'm using it)", according to you post it is a No. Remember, according to Ngwa history,you definitely know way more than I do so I'm more that open for corrections, during the migration the once who made it to the other side were known as Ngwa.The other people stay on the other side frying plantain.Now, there in no way all of those people that made it into Ngwa land were all family members. They were regular people from various backgrounds(families) who settled in an area. For instance, the mass migration of New Orleans indigenes to Texas because of the Hurricane Katrina mishap. "Ngwa" is just a name.The language classified is Ngwa spoken in the part of ngwaland beside Ezinihitte,Mbaise may be the same,almost exactly language;however, one is call ngwa language the other is called ezinihitte language. Also, the language spoken in the part of ngwa land by Ikot Ekpene,Akwa Ibom is more than likely nothing like the one I just mentioned. The difference between the two ngwa areas is the same as lets say Isiala Ngwa South and Arochukwu(As one full clan).[/quote]The Ngwa are not homogeneous. If you can divide Igbo land, you can do so easily with the Ngwa area or any other Igbo group.

You people are useless though? You have this much time for all this paranoia?

fstranger3:
May we have another Biafra war, with the same result as the last, of course

The Igbo bouncing back to become the most developed and most envied people in Nigeria (yes, and even in your land)? Dear God Amen.

dayokanu:
Simple when soldiers from your side decide to kill others and leave theirs, remember there are ppl like Adekunle who knows how to treat fork ups in the ratio 1:500,000

Lets be real, most people in Biafra died from strafing, not zombie 'soldiers'. Anyway, I'm glad no one from my 'end' is bragging about being used as puppets by outsiders. kind of embarrassing to those who know history.

Becomrichn:
that must be a joke

Which joke, look how many settlements you posted. Kaduna is big.

dayokanu:
I look very much like Adekunle and Akintola in case you are trying to figure out what I look like, ask the 500,000 ppl andx their families that Adekunle took care of
I am sure the bearded guy who ran away from the raging black scorpion would tell you more

Incase you want to see more action from Adekunle, kill just 100 Ogbomoso ppl and if you want to know the scores multiply by 500,000 it might be the end of an ethic group

The 'Ogbomoso' man may have been hiding under the imperial powers to carry out whatever it was he wanted to, but understand this, we are no longer in a world where countries are willing to pour money into their pets wars oversees, so I'd be careful who you brag to. . . . . . . . especially when you have nothing to brag about.

Couple of posts and nothing important has happened except people talking to themsevles. End of thread.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599800.msg7687514#msg7687514 date=1297126887]Fine. Then I shall let him rest in peace. But some of you need to realize that they hold nothing back. They will attack you with low blows. That is how they are.

Enough of taking the high ground. That man is fair game.[/quote]I believe that you should be cautious of 'certain people', but at the same time you should not lower yourself because people taunt you. If they touch you or your family (which they can't on here) then you can tear into them, but otherwise it's just a bunch of hyenas, unless they have some actual power lie in government.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599800.msg7687500#msg7687500 date=1297126653]I don't care if it is his uncle. He doesn't hold back, I wont hold back. Nothing is sacred to Yorubas. Just look at how bk.babe mocked starving little children.[/quote]Uh, don't bow for cockroaches, some people might think that's how all Igbo people act as well. Let the dead man. . . . . . . . . be dead.

Jen33:
And why was Nigeria not an advanced nation by 1960, or was it not the British that ruled in that period? Why were we not even remotely close to being developed after 90 years of British rule? Why were our grandparents ALL illiterate?

I don't know who's grandparents you see, but all Nigerian grandparents are not illiterate. Let's not be ignorant.

dayokanu:
Who is denying any holocaust here? Benjamin Adekunle my townsman shot everything moving and those not moving thereby avenging the death of Akintola who was murdered by Ibo soldiers

If one man should get credit for ending the biafra riots it should be the black scorpion I am sure those survivors still have pictures of him somewhere in their hearts tormenting them

Moral of the story don't start what you can't finish especially with Ogbomoso people we would have the final word on it especially warfere

Go and ask what the title of Soun Ajagungbade means or why Ogbomoso has produced more Aare Ona Kakanfo than most Yoruba cities

We crush ants with sledgehammers

Please go and sit down, when Igbo women were fighting the British where was the sledgehammer on the Ogbomosho end? All this because Daddy UK dash you gun? Shameless people.

[quote author=jay_getta link=topic=599800.msg7687253#msg7687253 date=1297123494]@Ezeagu: Yorubas act in packs more than Igbos? Ol boi, leave story for Harry Porter.[/quote] When do Igbo people act in packs?

Obiagu1:
War fought by volunteers is a war that has spirit.

No one will force you to fight.

Buuuut, the approaching Yoruba army/navy/air force wiiiiiiilll.

Obiagu1:
One thing I've noticed is that Igbo/Yoruba problem is more than rivalry, it's deep rooted.
In North America, you'll see that strained relationship, every non-Nigeria addresses us according to our tribes and not country unlike any other person from other countries.
The divide is real, the time bomb it ticking, only God knows when he programmed it. What's preventing it is the mighty North (I wish they leave).

It's not that serious, you have to remove the person from the group. But I can't deny that Yoruba people tend to act in packs. No offence.