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[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599800.msg7687057#msg7687057 date=1297122001]http://www.arookigbo.com/files/aro_people/aro_people.php[/quote]Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! Egwu! |
Obiagu1:But [size=18pt]I[/size] don't want to die or lose family members. ![]() |
dayokanu:Yeah, the east is just lining up their region with their flags waiting for when you guys ![]() |
TewMuch:Lol, if you're justifying that dog with rabies above, I feel sorry for your whole region. ![]() |
CapnCrunch:Wow, you are really convincing as a Cross River man, try another account, acting might be your talent. |
PhysicsMHD:Isn't it common knowledge that the Aro trader around the whole of the Bight of Biafra? Anyway, go to Gabon and you will actually see Aro people there who will great you. |
Jen33:No, actually the railways were key in the growth of many towns it passed especially in the East of Nigeria, what would a trading town be without it? The motorways would not have been built if the British had not arrived in Nigeria and given Nigeria, Nigeria. They would pocket resources, yes, but they'd find a way to stop the conflict that left over 500 people dead in their colony. Jen33:The sentence has NOOOOOOOOOO relevance in explaining your points. Jen33:They did it in their colonies and the University of Ibadan, Nigeria's best university was under Oxford. You might have heard of that university. Nothing to show that they would build any of those things, except that they built all those things anyway? Those that make sense? The neglect was seen in their country as late as the 80s which caused the miners strike in their own country, yes they mistreated their own citizens as well with the white settle colonies included, but lets look at Nigeria when they left and now. |
PhysicsMHD:Heeheeheehee. ![]() PhysicsMHD:They were in Gabon, let alone Cameroon. They went further than Cameroon. jason123:When they're talking you're talking? ![]() |
Obiagu1: T9ksy:Biko, I know you people on Nairaland use this platform as a way to expose your kolomental side, you know, motor park crase. But please keep your krase contained to wars that only include yourselves. Imeela, E se, Daalu, Thank you. |
Stupid argument, without the British where did Nigerians build motorways or railways? Anyway, if the British stayed Nigerians would be 'in bondage' but they will be far better off than they are now. Sad fact. |
Hmm, Kano State looks like it has more people than Ogun State and Oyo State together. |
I've been talking about dominant culture for too long on this forum. No one has named a country that has formed a successful nation with more than one dominant culture, Nigeria is talking about three, going on to five. For the EU, the countries in the EU still have their own sovereignty and can leave the EU if they want. It's not really the same thing as a United States of Africa, unless the US of Africa will give nations sovereignty. Maybe the people looking at the EU should calculate what would happen if all the nations of the EU came into one country called the European Union without their independence. Europe already had a Nigeria, and it was more relevant than Belgium, it was called Yugoslavia. Everything from the corrupt leaders to the false forced nationalism and even the war was there. Look at the quality of living in the 'tiny' countries that came out of it now. No useless 'Southern Yugoslavia' there. [quote author=eku_bear link=topic=597291.msg7684689#msg7684689 date=1297098949]Who specifically is worse off if Nigeria divides?[/quote]Ethnic groups that are made up of one village. |
Oh and don't forget Igbuzor. ![]() |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]There is a lot of differences, between what I am saying. However, I digress from that discussion. Just look at the borders that were created and see how we have benefited from those colonial borders.[/quote]Look at it like this, if the Romans conquered Nigeria you would not have to worry about Yoruba or Igbo because you both will be speaking a Romance language or a language with a lot of Latin, and you will have a Latin.Roman culture. Rome could have just joined the two and nothing would have been done about it. ![]() [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]You are comparing two separate things. There was no altruism, when the British came to Africa, Asia and the Americas. They only destroyed and pillaged the land. Look at what their settlers did to the Native Americans. One of the worse genocides that has every occurred in world history.[/quote]If they only destroyed and pillaged the land you would not be so good at speaking English, what law does Nigeria use? Is it not English? Were the schools you went to in Nigeria not introduced by the British, would you rather go to whatever schools Arochukwu had before they came? You have to acknowledge when someone has done well and the British did some things well in Nigeria. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]The British conquest were in far flung areas. How can you compare Chinese conquest of regions that have been traditionally part of China with British conquest of other people? You cannot compare the two, so that is a red herring.[/quote]As you said China had peasants (slaves) to do their work for them so they didn't have to go to other countries for slaves, they used their class (caste) system and their numbers, unfortunately if they were as desperate to grow as the British they'd do the same thing as the British have. Look at Japan for example. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]The British destroyed many of culture, traditional beliefs, form of governments, corrupted our languages etc.[/quote]Many other Empires (and confederacies ) did as well.[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]China has always claimed Tibet. Remember that Tibet was part of China during the Qing Dynasty. The Chinese saw their invasion of Tibet as recapturing terrotory that was lost during the upheaval in China after the fall of the Qing dynasty.[/quote]If they have always claimed Tibet, where did the Tibetans come from? [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]Taiwan as always been a territory of China. And the Taiwanese people are Chinese. They were just part of the political faction that lost the Chinese civil war and fled to Taiwan. China can claim Taiwan.[/quote]Han Chinese are not the native people of Taiwan. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]The British conquest were in far flung areas. How can you compare Chinese conquest of regions that have been traditionally part of China with British conquest of other people? You cannot compare the two, so that is a red herring. And what were Chinese colonies if I may ask? The Chinese did not believe in slavery in the sense that Europeans believe in slavery. By that time, I think slavery was actually outlawed in China since the Han dynasty, which was in BCE. China's population allowed them not worry about slavery which was a fact.[/quote]So they had (have) slavery but it's not called slavery? ![]() [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680405#msg7680405 date=1297041609]And what genocides have Africans participated in that could number the lives lost in the Atlantic Slave trade in which 150 million enslaved Africans were taken from the continent. The Rwandan genocide cannot be compared to that, in which only 500,000 people lost their lives. Pre-Colonial Africa was not in constant war.[/quote]I thought it was 10 million all together? And weren't 10% of those captured by the British and half by Portugal and Spain? And is the Rwandan genocide the only genocide that happened in Africa? |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680268#msg7680268 date=1297038601]You do know the Romans moved to their provinces. And they created cities, roads and other structures that would resemble home. They even allowed their subjects to join politics even though they were not Romans by birth. That is why the Roman empire was able to last so long, because it was a multi-ethnic empire. You even had non-Romans emperors like Diocletian, Constantine, Romulus Augustus etc. The Romans used cultural imperialism, but many people benefited from this. What have we as Africans benefited from British colonialism?[/quote]I've already listed what Africa has benefited. There really is no difference between what you are saying for the Roman Empire and what the British Empire did. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680268#msg7680268 date=1297038601]Cornish for ostensive purposes is a extinct language. Latin was used by many nations for educational purposes, because the Romans were more advanced than the barbarians that conquered the Western half of the Roman empire. So, I can understand why Latin was still used. Even the Roman Catholic Church still uses Latin.[/quote]Just replace Roman with British and Latin with English and you'll sound like a British officer sent to Nigerian in the 20's. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680268#msg7680268 date=1297038601]The Chinese are not here to colonize Africa. They come to Africa as businessmen, and they do not get involved with the local governments. That is something that I like about the Chinese. Now the British continue to play a role in many African governments through their companies. This is NEO-COLONIALISM.[/quote]Would you sell a portion of Arochukwu to Chinese businessmen? [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680268#msg7680268 date=1297038601]The Chinese in the past cared about their own nation, and only searched for partners. The British only wanted to conquer.[/quote]Eh, is Tibet their own nation? What about Taiwan? Is it fair to say the British only wanted to conquer and the Chinese only cared about their country? [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680268#msg7680268 date=1297038601]And the Chinese would not have joined the Atlantic Slave trade, because they have always had a booming population.[/quote]No. If they wanted slaves they could use African to develop their colonies, or they could use the trade for profit if they wanted or needed to. If Africans themselves were selling African people, why would outsiders not? Plus we've seen enough genocides by Africans that has nearly outdone the British slave trade in deaths. |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680160#msg7680160 date=1297036323]They created railways, which benefited them and not the people who inhabit the regions. You know and I know that those railways were used for exploitation of the people. Minerals and other resources were placed on those railways that led to the coast to benefit the "mother country." The bad outweighs the small good that they gave the peoples of Nigeria.[/quote]The great Roman roads and buildings that are in Britain today were not built for the British people either. These positive things may have originally been used for exploitation but you cannot deny that Nigeria became better with them. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680160#msg7680160 date=1297036323]And the English language was more influenced by the Saxons, more so than the Romans. English is actually a Germanic language. It is not a Celtic language like the original inhabitants of England spoke. Only Celtic languages in existence is Welsh, Scottish and Irish.[/quote]And Cornish. The language on the coat of arms is Latin, the language of education for a certain amount of time in Britain was Latin (and is still kind of) even Nigerians sometimes go of speaking Latin to sound intelligent. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680160#msg7680160 date=1297036323]There were many nations that were in the British position at one time or the other and they did not exploit others. China was a great power and they did not subjugate others like the Europeans did. They only came to the East Coast of Africa to trade. China only focused on their nation, instead of the subjugation of others. That is why I view them favorably. And I doubt African groups if place in the same position would have been barbaric like the British.[/quote]Well, they're making up for it. The Chinese didn't take fool hold of the world, not because they were 'nice' (ask Tibet) but because they had internal problems, civil wars, rival politicians bringing their own laws on what China should or shouldn't do. I don't believe that China would not have joined the Atlantic slave trade if they could. |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680012#msg7680012 date=1297034582]But what did the British do that was beneficial for Nigeria or any of its colonies? I have yet, to see anything that is worthy to say that they helped us in any way, except for giving us their language at the detriment of our own beautiful indigenous languages.[/quote]Do you really believe that? They created Nigeria's railway, gave them some other long distance transport like ships, introduced materials such as cement, introduced higher science's such as improvements biology, introduced technologies that brought about new ways of making money like coal mining, introduced electricity, introduced foods that gave people a more balanced diet, killed some practices that weren't good, and so many other things such as opening regions to the wider world. You could say that the British peoples languages before the Romans were beautiful, but now they are mixed with so many Latin words. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7680012#msg7680012 date=1297034582]And you said the British were not violent? They destroyed my village and slaughtered many people in cold blood. Yes, they could be quite violent.[/quote]I said less violent, which I meant by they didn't enslave people in Nigeria completely (you can say they did with some jobs) but your village was destroyed out of a war, some villages were destroyed out of revenge, it is just how humans have been behaving for as long as they lived. So the British are just people who got to that position when any other groups would have done the same if they had the chance. |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7679901#msg7679901 date=1297033047]My brother, I see that you study history as well. Spain is not wealthy, because they overstretched themselves in the Americas. That is where all their wealth went into, trying to quell popular revolts from Chile all the way to Mexico. An overstretched empire, will suffer in terms of wealth. Do not give me that nonsense about that island, being plundered through the centuries. lol Yes, the Romans invaded the island. Yes, the Saxons invaded the island. Yes, the Vikings invaded that island. Finally, yes the Normans invaded that island. But the fact remains, the Great Britain would not be where it is, without the wealth that it stole from its colonies and overseas empire. You cannot deny that fact.[/quote]I never denied the fact, but I was pointing out that they would have never gotten in the position to do so (plunder) if it wasn't for their experience. Spain did not have experience like Britain (England) did, and England even defeated them once under a queen when Spain foolishly tried to invade them. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7679909#msg7679909 date=1297033117]But the Romans actually tried to improve their provinces (colonies). They introduced to them Roman civilization, architecture, language, arts, and other scientific achievements. What did the British introduce to their colonies? Only misery and theft.[/quote]Well, if you replace Roman with British you can say the same for Nigeria under the British. "The British actually tried to improve their provinces (colonies). They introduced to them British civilization, architecture, language, arts, and other scientific achievements." The Romans actually made stone statues of Julius Caesar putting his foot on Britannia's neck symbolising their enslavement. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2570/3768411515_4226455f4a.jpg If the British stayed in Nigeria, yes they would still be in charge (less violent than the Romans who enslaved the British), but Nigeria would be like Britain now. They left before they could have as much impact on Nigeria as the Romans had on them, and even the British didn't have a choice because it was by force that Roman culture was the main culture of Britain. When the Romans left the French now came and said it was French that was the official language, can you see how much they've been through? afam4eva:Is it about how much people have ripped, because Spain has ripped just as much and so have other countries in the past. |
afam4eva:Yes, but everybody did it. afam4eva:Go to the English city of Bath and ask them who physically built all the Roman wash houses there. |
[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7679647#msg7679647 date=1297030508]The British are rich for one main reason: Theft All the centuries they have plundered the globe from Africa, Asia to North America, they are living off their ill-gotten wealth. That is the only reason why the UK is such a rich country.[/quote]I wouldn't call it theft, but 'conquest', don't forget where you're from. ![]() There are countries like Spain who have ransacked more times than Britain, but where are they now. The people of Britain are just an experienced set of people who's island had been prey to other people like the Romans and Vikings for thousands of years. No other country had experience in battle, conquest, and failure like the British did, so by the time they got their heads into something they were good at (the sea) there was no stopping them. The truth is the British had been slaves longer than they had bee enslavers. [quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=599690.msg7679647#msg7679647 date=1297030508]Remember the old adage, that there is no sunset on the British empire. I think that should answer that question.[/quote]Well, there is now! ![]() |
Lakeside247:So the withces powers don't work outside the village? |
afam4eva:So what is the name of the dialect your community speaks? I thought 'wawa' was a jokey name? ChinenyeN:That I'm surprised. |
greateros:The city is intended to help the Anam people with the flooding of their lands and also to provide them with jobs and schools and for their land to be upgraded with technology. They're using the city as a model of what others should follow. If the city is built as well as they intend then investors will come, and they will come employing Anam people. |
ChinenyeN:Really? Ha! afam4eva:What is 'Wawa'? ![]() |
udezue:Heeey, O wu otu anyi shi a hu ya oooo! |
ShangoThor:I was laughing writing it. ![]() |
ShangoThor:RUBIIIIIISH!!! ShangoThor:FOOLIIIIIISH!!! |
Ojiofor:Are you doubting me? Ikengawo:Chaaaiiiiiii! Are you Igbo? Heeeeeaaaaaaa, I don't want to know the answer! How can "Rivers" Igbo not understand Anambra Igbo when many Ijaw people can understand Anambra Igbo? Did you say slaves? Are crazy? Did you just say there was no Igbo union before the Biafra-Nigeria war when there was an Igbo union in the 19th century in Sierra Leone? He le o! Politicarry corase will not kill us. |
Ikengawo:Chai! Try again. |
barnabasj:[size=18pt]TA![/size] Did I hear you say Hausa? The same thing is happening everywhere in Nigeria right now! Every random village they can find youngsters. Don't say it's only Hausa people. |
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