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Litmus:
Does this mean that no Nigerian has ever committed suicide ?

Yes, because there is not one Nigerian person that can hurt themselves intentionally. In fact Nigerian people are physically incapable of causing harm to themselves, it's a medical fact.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=587084.msg7550612#msg7550612 date=1295287658]Oh, Okay.  Thank you for answering that.  But, you know there is an impression that a lot of Igbo men can't get married when they want to because they're saving up for bride price because it is so high, especially if the future bride is educated or has other desired values.  No disrespect.  I just always heard that.  I've even seen it on this site.  Maybe they're just talking about gifts to the bride's family and the cost of a lavish wedding to impress the village?   [/quote]It happens, but it is not the usual. A lot of Some people in the West go into debt after weddings right? But others may marry at a reception. The Igbo do not have one consciousness and neither those any other ethnic group.

Sagamite:
My understanding is she flew to Owerri to unite with her dad and extended family. This is a 42 year old woman that has one way or the other been abandoned by her biologically parents. Reasonable people would have just welcomed her and allowed her to get to know her people and even her culture, not tell her part of her existence is inadequate because of some culture that she did not grow up in and insist she must perform the culture. It is fine if she is the one volunteering, but it is crude to impose on her and she can not refuse without appearing rude.

I would not be surprised if some reetarded monarch decides to give her chieftancy title soon.

How, from a few characters on the screen, do you know exactly what went on with her and her family? Where did you get the idea that anything was imposed on her or even the description of the way she reacted? You went on to describe how she reacted! If the woman wants to embrace Igbo culture her family would obviously tell her about bride prices, especially as she's reuniting with her dad!

Sagamite:
I am not complaining about the bride price. I am complaining about the uncouth act and crude mentality of imposing on a stranger (that will not want to be rude by refusing) to perform a tradition that is strange to her all because of some blood she has not benefitted from.

Mehn, are you Stacie Turner? What kind of witch argument is this? Stacie Turner flew all the way to Owerre with her kids to unite with what she considers her dad and what she considers her extended family. She does not consider them strangers and she wants to become familiar with the Igbo culture which she is interested in. Is that the problem? Some people pay 500 naira bride price, why are you getting angry over the issue of somebody else that they themselves are not complicating? You think somebody would fly from the United States to Owerre and re-do their whole wedding because their long lost biological father pressured them to? The woman is happy, go and rest. Just trying hard to find a negative.

It's 2011, unless the Lagos government will pull something out before 11:58 PM on December 31st?

I hope some of you people know that Gowon once gave Queen Elizabeth a Benin bronze as a 'present'?

[quote author=Becomrich? link=topic=566774.msg7383273#msg7383273 date=1292955180]PhysicsMHD , this is another prove. This is "Nigeria. Geological Survey Dept 1933"

You can see, it is igbo rename the villages and town to look like igbo. get a copy of the book.[/quote]I wouldn't start quoting books if I were you.

Andre Uweh:
Jimmy  'Snuka' Superfly bu onye Fiji.

O di kwa mma?

MzDarkSkin:
^^are you ok? I am not Yoruba lol.

If that is the case than we Americans, Brazilians, Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans ;etc are not African because regardless of African "law" we are a mix of different tribes. It is what it is. My ancestry stretches from Democratic Congo - Senegal as a 50% Jamaican 50% American person. So because of your "not believing in mixed African" theory despite my features and dark skin I am not African. Interesting. . .as Igbo/ Yoruba/etc as these folks look they are mixed with different tribes. This is cool to see and guess but facts are facts. We are mixed.

I don't think you understood me. When I said that you are what your father is, I mean paternal line (in some cases, like some Igbo and Akan cultures, maternal line). You are only your great great great great great great great, etc. grandfathers descendant (many names of wives are not recorded, sadly). So if your paternal line traces back to Aba, then you're an Aba girl, even if 'genetics' tells you you're 50% Irish. I didn't mean that if you're 'mixed' you can't be African, actually I meant the complete opposite. There are groups in Africa that are more mixed than most African descendants in the Caribbean and the rest, (Tuareg, Northern Sudanese, etc.) This is the reason Westerners (generally) are confused by the Northern Sudanese people who say that they are Arab even when they look like a family portrait of the Snipes family, it's a paternal identity (from despoil), that's how African ancestors maintained their communities.

Before you say that it is silly to ignore your other ancestors, understand the social and spiritual consequences in many African cultures of claiming (as in splitting yourself between) different ancestors. If you have not stuck with your maternal line (for whatever reasons, e.g abandonment by the father) or paternal line, you're not going to inherit your maternal grandfathers land, you're not going to call on your maternal grandfathers when pouring libation after his death (and calling his ancestors), and you're not going to be part of your mothers village, unless you have moved there for whatever reason. There are other things like wars, religion that play into the lineage.

Don't think that I'm saying in traditional African societies you cannot talk about your other ancestors (because its done often), you're just not considered aligned to those who have direct descendants. I'm not telling a country woman of Marcus Garvey and Bob Marley that she is not African. Which leads me back to my point, Bob Marley was aligned to his maternal paternal line and claimed those ancestors (his mothers fathers).

MzDarkSkin:
I hate to burst EVERYONE'S bubbles but Nigeria is only a FRACTION of the 13 countries that contributed to the slave trade so your "predictions" are off as the probability is 1 of 13.

A lesson you should learn about Africans (Nigerians): There's no such thing as 'mixed' in the community, you are your father, or what you (reasonably) choose to be.

DaRapture:
Eve looks like a strait SE chick.

She does a lot, or just a general Southern Nigerian.

'Authentic' Nsibidi:
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Andre Uweh:
In Igbo ceremonies, breaking of kola nut is followed up with the distribution of kola nut. In doing so, it is done in alphabetical order of Igbo states e.g Anambra, Abia, Delta etc. But recently, I have noticed a trend where a title holder from Nri or any Nri native is called upon to come and pick up a lobe of kola nut before others.

Nri revival? Nice.

[quote author=gree-die link=topic=413608.msg7270224#msg7270224 date=1291462890]ndi igbo ibem daru kwa nu,  Unu achoro igwa m na unu aghaghi asunwu asusu anyi ma oburu na bekee adataghi ya? Legodu ka unu ufodu si asu engreigbo. Obukwa ihe ihere o.  ndi ibe anyi ndi ahusa,yoruba wdg da asunwu asusu ha ma otu bekee aghaghi aba ya. Biko ka anyi gisie ike ma hu asusu anyi na anya,  Hapi xmas in advance[/quote]Nsogbu asusu Bekee na Igbo di na ihe ha na kpo 'conjunctions' na English. Ihe m ne kwu bu 'so', 'and', 'bortuuu'. Ndi Yoruba na Hausa ne mekwa ya. O bu ihe anyi gi ne jishike I wefuta na onu anyi mgbe anyi na su Igbo. Ndewonu wo!

Obiagu1:
You can only be an expert in Ngwa but when it comes to central Igbo, listen to others because sometimes it is irritating. Chidozie is my cousins name and a very common name for that matter, I grew up in Enugu, I know central Igbo very well, studied Igbo in school. The only dialect that I find hard is Ikwerre because one can barely find them in Enugu so the way they express certain things is not familiar with many except for southern Igbos.

Enugu is the melting pot of all Igbo clans.

Anyway, peace.

'Ngwa' is closer to 'central Igbo' than any other dialect spoken in or around Enugu. The people of Enugu do not speak central Igbo as a majority, they use the well known 'Enugu' dialect that is almost as far from central Igbo as Ikwerre is. 'Debe' as 'to keep' or whatever is not central Igbo, which shows that some of these translations are wrong in the eyes of those who don't even know central Igbo. 'To keep' in central Igbo is 'dose'.

Obiagu1:
Stop using the site as a source. I can put my own meaning on that same site, you know that.

Put what meaning? I gave you the only translation on the internet for 'Chidebelu' and it was 'God willed it' the same as 'Chidelu', if you don't want to accept it then fine, don't start talking about putting meanings into anything.

Obiagu1:
If you didn't grow up in Igboland, listen to others and stop arguing and confusing other people.

All your translations are wrong, so why should I listen? You talked about most of the translations I made being wrong, yet you could only point one out, what sense does that make?

Uzzyan:
ezeagu go and get your igbo translation right!!
Dont confuse urselves unnecessarily. Let mi just pik one or more of the ones that has caused confusion, dont bother saying am wrong cos i am very certain.

Chidelu means God wrote
Chi'debe'lu means God has kept


get your facts right dudes!!

I'm still waiting for you people to show me where 'debe' means 'kept' because I have already posted another website that has the definition of Chidebelu as well as other accurate Igbo names.

Eziafakego:
Does anyone know the meaning of my name? Ezaifakego? and my last name Umejei? I would really appreciate it

Ezi afa ka ego? A good name (meaning reputation?) is better than money (wealth)?

Obiagu1:
I just gave a few and you doubt it. I'll teach you Igbo when you're ready.

Again, Chiedozie cannot be God kept something. The suffix "zie" means to make right.
Chidozie = God make (something) right or God right a wrong
Chimezie = God make (something) right or God right a wrong
Chiedozie = God has made (something) right.
Chiemezie = God has made (something) right.
etc

"Zie" or "Zi" as an affix means to show (in names) or to bring something down
Ziem = show me
zim = show me
Ziemuzo= show me way
Zimuzo = show me way

Zie m/Zi m ibu m bu n'isi = bring down the load I have on my head

Chiedozie is Chi e dozie (god has kept, arranged, etc). What you're saying is that Chiedozie is Chi e do zie, what on earth does Chi e 'do' zie mean? Anyway, another Igbo speaker has commented, go and call other Igbo speakers so we can see who should be teaching who.

Obiagu1:
There's no need, you'll still argue it. Start from page 1 to 16, then you'll know the ones that are wrong.

Why don't you just translate them yourself?

Obiagu1:
I'll only say, debe = keep, dee = write

You're using the wrong accents.

Obiagu1:
You really don't know Igbo, I swear.
Chidelu = God wrote (my destiny); (O delu ihe na akwa m = He/She wrote something on my cloth)
Chidebelu = God kept/preserved (O debelu akwukwo ya na-enu oche = He/She kept his book on the chair)
Chidebelum/Chidelumndu = God kept me/God kept me alive.

Chiedozie = God has made (something) right.

There's no one named Chidelumndu. If there is, please link me to the person. Are you saying 'Debelu' is to keep? If you know Igbo well (or even any language) you'd know that there are several ways of saying the same thing. The only definition for Chidebelu on line is here: http://women.evenhealth.com/cgi-bin/showname.cgi?q=Chidebelu. Their other Igbo translations are accurate.

Chi e dozie = Can be 'God has made it right' and it can be 'God and kept something'. If it is Chidoziri (an actual name people use) then it is only the first definition. There is a reason that there is the Igbo name 'Chiemezie'.

You haven't told me which translations are wrong in the post before the last one.

Obiagu1:
@ ezeagu, instead of translating what you don't know, leave it for others to do it.
Most of the translations you gave above are wrong!

For those that are seeking the meaning of some names, most of the names have been translated earlier. Just take your time and go thru the previous pages.

Which ones are wrong?

Obiagu1:
Chidebelu (?) = God kept (?)

Chi debelu, God wrote it or God wrote my destiny. 'God kept' is Chiedozie.

agbotaen:
i know some  igbo  people are dumb and they think ikas hand titles to 419 people like they do  in igbo land where once you are rich you  become igwe ,they also think obiship is like ezeship  or igweship .a people without kings , please learn something of royalty , because you do  not have kings so cannot appreciate and respect royalty with all your government created busstop kings in igboland.
   go and sort yourself out a group that speaks and sell themselves out to others .go tell your leaders to  solve your kidnapping problems, armed robbery , lack of infrastructure and stop selling your daughters in the name of marriage .ikas  are a respectable royal and noble people .
    if not for europeans and nigerian govt. who will give you people kings,?
as you write your ethnic igboic trash on the net , ikas are laughing at you , ikas caanever go with you igbos if you like kill your self. you are a drowning group whose pride will always make you fall .

Please go and sit down, the Obi of Owa has already laid claim to Nri and you're still here rambling? Go and find something better to do, grown man like yourself.

Jesuto:
Very informative thread, thanks for sharing. Could someone please share the meaning of the following names;

Hard names, especially without accent. I'll do the one I can tell.

Jesuto:
1 Nkiruka

Nke iru ka, Abundance

Jesuto:
2 Njideka

Jesuto:
3 Chinozo

Chi no nso? God is with me, nearby.

Jesuto:
4 Chukwudumeme

Chukwu dum eme, God follows me to do things.

Jesuto:
5 Achebe

Ani, Ali, Ala chebe, Ani (the earth goddess) protect me. (I searched it)

Jesuto:
6 Uchendu

Uche ndu, Idea/thought of life, think of life.

Jesuto:
7 Nwosu

Nwa osu, Child of Osu (May be an arushi, deity or title)

Jesuto:
8 Udeh

Jesuto:
9 Ekwefi

Ekwe efi, Agree something (cow)?

Jesuto:
10 Unoka

Uno ka, Home is the best?

Jesuto:
11 Ezeudu

Eze udu, King of pots??

Jesuto:
12 Akunna

Aku nna, fathers wealth, prize, possession.

Jesuto:
13 Okagbue

O ka gbue, Destroys

Jesuto:
14 Maduka

Madu ka, man is great, greater. probably short for something.

Jesuto:
15 Nduka

Ndu ka, life is great, important, priority.

Jesuto:
16 Ojiugo

Oji ugo, something eagle

Jesuto:
17 Nwachukwu

Nwa Chukwu, God's child.

Jesuto:
18 Kiaga

Jesuto:
19 Nwakibie

Nwa ka ibe ya, a child that is ahead of their piers.

Jesuto:
20 Uyanwa

lordangers:
lol the Nigerian Police have stretch limo jeeps in armoured plateing. Wouldnt mind getting arrested in that

This Nigeria, you do not want to be arrested at all!

Omenani:
Give my region Federal Projects and the East will be on your platter.

This is exactly the sort of attitude that is Igbo culture, not this embarrassing chase for a title of who's power does not stand alone.

KnowAll:
[b]Onlytruth has spoken,

The SW is quitely re-drawing the pre- 1963 map of d SW region. Delta is d last bastion of opposition with also some pockets of resistance in Ogun & Oyo State which would be overwhealmed in the next dispensation.

Jonathan is talking d talk of pre- Biafra East, this is d time to grab Jonathan in d jugular for some geniue certainity, a promise dat would be witness by all d high & mighty of the old Eastern region.

Why some Igbos are ready to accept a maginalised & maligned entity called SE I do not understand, when d North are still using pre- 1967 Northern region in everyday speak, Just a few days ago d North and not the NE, NW, or NC chose a flag bearer for d North but when it comes to issues regarding d East, d same North are quick to identify d dicothomy bw d SE & SS wen in fact d difference between d cultures is at best blurr with a lot similarities. King Jaja of Opobo is an Igbo man in d riverine are has d mordern Igbo man relinquished  their Coastal domains without a fight.  

I am sure some cleaver ones amongst u know it is a divide & rule tatics dat has been used a countless time with renegade & deceit been d end result.[/b]

I agree with you also.

Onlytruth:
By the way, why didn't the Yoruba second fiddle (Obasanjo and idiagbo) never end like ours? Why did they end up ruling Nigeria and we didn't?

I am more interested in the answer to these questions than the mad rush to a dodgy promise.

I have the answer, and it's short:

No one in Nigeria likes the Igbo people, even among many of the minority groups in the South East.

End of answer.

The Igbo need to start thinking about their own survival instead of useless chieftancy titles.

OAM4J:
You know what?. If you cannot be the king, be the kingmaker.

And the king makers, as anybody who knows even a little of Nigeria's history will know, are the people who make the decisions.

No one answered my question. I am against the wasted energy by Igbo people for presidency. Presidency in the hands of a member of your ethnic group ensures nothing and there are far more effective ways of developing your community. All this talk of Igbo presidency is a distraction from what people know that they have to do.

Can someone answer my question on the last page?

Let me ask this question: What does an "Igbo president" guarantee your community? Guarantee.

fstranger:
It is indeed a free state, the most civil,tolerant, and peaceful in the federation

Lagos?