₦airaland Forum

Dawgpound:
*mchew* @ the fact that Biafra is always and only associated with the Igbo yet my father an Ogoni fought and paid the price for it. Have people forgotten about our own contributions? Anyway Nigeria was imposed on me as Ogoni while Biafra was a choice my family made to follow.

jason12345:
oh boy, stop am oooo!!!

Onlytruth:
[size=15pt]So, it is not out of benevolence that we are in your land. You have NO CHOICE. It is Nig[color=White]er[/color]ian territory.  [/size]

chyz1:
Information about the label "Ika":

Although earlier colonial documents have referred to the present Ika people as Ika speaking people (Marshall 1936, Whiting 1936, Simpson 1936, Denton 1937, and Stanfield 1936), the present Ika people have not always been the only group known by the name, Ika. Forde and Jones (1967) used the term Ika for a wider community, which included the present Ika group. Ika was used by Forde and Jones (1967) to represent the inland parts of the four groups that make up the western Igbo group (Aniocha, Oshimili, Ika and Ukwuani) found in present Delta State away from the shores of the river Niger. The remaining members of these groups that are on the shores of the river Niger i.e. Asaba, Aboh and others were referred to as Riverain Ibo (Forde and Jones 1967: 49-50). Within this Ika group the present Ika community was classified as Northern Ika along with Aniocha and Oshimili while the Ukwuani group was classified as Southern Ika (Forde and Jones 1967). However the origin and meaning of the name Ika and when only the present Ika community and their language began to be known and referred to by that name, which they retain until today

As has been stated above, there are eleven clans and a metropolis that make up the Ika collective group, which I refer to as the Ika community. Except for the Idumuesah clan the rest ten are today also referred to as kingdoms as they have the hereditary kingship traditional system. The kings are known and referred to by the title of Obi (king), however the king of Agbor clan has changed his title from Obi to Dien for reasons not clear to me at this time. The following are the eleven clans and a metropolis that make up the Ika community: Agbor clan, Owa clan, Abavo clan, Ute-Okpu clan, Ute-Ogbeje clan, Umunede clan, Akumazi clan, Igbodo clan, Otolokpo clan,  Mbiri clan, Idumuesah clan, Orogodo/Boji-Boji.

chic2pimp:
You list Itsekiris as Yorubas, yet you fail to do the same with the Igalas. Why, I ask?

. . . . And BTW, the Hausas and Fulanis are two different tribes.

alj harem:
ARE IGBOS ADDING TO THE VALUE OF NIGERIA

IS IT NOT US AND THE YORUBA AND NIGER/DELTA THAT ARE ADDING TO WHAT NIGERIA IS TODAY.

alj harem:

dumb

alj harem:
igbos can leave, but port harcount and niger delta is not BIAFRA period.

chyz1:
Mehn I love my people!!!!

alj harem:
i don't know hw the yoruba and my brothers accummodiate u in lagos and kano

tensor777:
The fact remains that the average Englishman prefers to settle in a temperate or subtropical climate as opposed to a tropical climate.

tensor777:
As for the Lebanese they are in fact totally at home in the heat and humidity of the tropics and have made themselves at home in West Africa

tensor777:
Well take it or leave it that the hot and humid Nigerian climate was  not conducive enough for there to be mass settlement of private sector Englishmen.

tensor777:
Moreso when countries like Kenya, Rhodesia and South Africa had much more temperate climates.
In fact it is the Lebanese that were the first set of foreigners to move enmasse to, and settle permenantly in West Africa.

tensor777:
Who said anything about economic development.

tensor777:
In any case these quarters were intended to be handed over to Nigerian Government officials by independence which is precisely what happened.

tensor777:
Certainly Nigeria did serve as a source of much needed raw materials for British industry as well as a source of military manpower.
However these posted military oficers and civil servants were just here to protect the interests of their political masters in London.
As a matter of fact it was the missionaries that  ultimately left a lasting legacy in Nigeria thanks to their efforts in ediucation and religion and not the posted government officials

tensor777:
Yes but these military officers and civil servants were in Nigeria on official duty. Nigeria just happened to be where they were posted to. That is not to say that a very small minority did not adjust and thrive in the heat and humidity of West Africa.
However the Government Reserved Areas were simply designed as residential quarters for these officers. In any case these quarters were intended to be handed over to Nigerian Government officials by independence which is precisely what happened.

tensor777:
Well you may say that and of course you have a point.
BUT maybe only the Jos Plateau was convenient for them to settle permanently. In general though, I still think they were only too happy to depart.

One other point is that Hong Kong was developed by the indigenous Chinese themselves and not by the British colonists who merely provided a political framework within which development could take place.
Hong Kong would still have developed to its current level with home rule and a free-market economy as the example of Taiwan shows.

tensor777:
You may be missing the point of British presence in West Africa. It was primarily for colonization and economic exploitation and not for residential settlement as was the case in Southern Africa. There is no way in any case that an economic model based  on  plantation cash crop agriculture could have proved sustainable in the long run and generated sufficient revenue for the treasury what with the permenent fall of commodity prices in the 1970's.

What's more they never had any intention of settling in West Africa thanks to the steamy climate and the scourge of malaria. So the question as to how they would have spent the oil revenue is pretty much irrelevant, as is this topic as a matter of fact.

ChinenyeN:
It can't be "multitude" because the tone arrangement of "Igwe" in reference to "multitude" is LL (low low), while the tone arrangement you hear in "Igwe Ocha" is HH (high high). It also can't be "most high", because the tone arrangement for "Igwe" in reference to "most high" is HM (high mid), or am I mistaking. . .?

Anyway, I know Igwe Ocha by a different name (Igu Ocha). That's the name we have for it, where I'm from, in reference to the actual costal zone. That's also the reason I asked where people got Igwe Ocha from, because I hadn't come across that name, until I read this topic. So, until recently, I've always known Igu Ocha as the only name, referencing to that coastal zone.

I'm still interested in knowing if any oral traditions of Bonny tell of peoples who were either already settled there, or who settled at the same time, or later. Na2day?, do you happen to have any information on this?

Melanesia
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A young Melanesian Vanuatu Pacific Islander boy.[88]

There are several groups of dark-skinned people who live in various parts of Asia, Australia and Oceania who sometimes are referred to as black people. They include the Indigenous Australians, the Melanesians (now divided into Austronesian-speaking populations and Papuans, and including the great genetic diversity of New Guinea), the Semang people of the Malay peninsula, the Aeta people of Luzon, the Ati of Panay.[89] indigenous first nation Fijians and various indigenous peoples sometimes collectively known as Negritos.

By their external physical appearance (phenotype) such people resemble Black Africans with dark skin and sometimes tightly coiled hair. There have been suggestions of a Black African origin. However, in the case of the Andamanese people, a study conducted by the NCBI indicated that the Andamanese people possessed closer affinities with the Southeast Asian population than with the Black African population.[90]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people

kabukabu50:
How many times do I have to say this , heck naw
I'm a self made N*&%$ with a fistfull of dollars and my swag is on 100 million.Chumps

Gamine:
^^^

At first glance, I thought this was V.I

@poster, Home is where the heart is.

debosky:
Other black = those so black the Caribbeans and Africans refused to accept them.   

More likely those that have been in the UK so long they don't classify themselves as either group.

honeric01:
^^^^

  Now i know i am chatting up with a kiddo, hehhehhehehe.

Be it Lagos or Nigeria, i still ask you, can you show us stats just like what we have on this thread how many kids got killed through stabbing by 15/16yrs old anywhere in Lagos or Nigeria? be it in school or in the neighborhood? do you have any? heard any? just anything, just come here and tell us something about any occurrence pertaining to this topic.