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bushdoc9919:
Well....we are now straying off topic into Israel's legitimacy....and that is a long and ruminant topic.

I guess my point can be summarized this way....repressive governments breed resentments and bitterness....which eventually blows up in the face of the country and the government concerned.

That is why Israel is stable vis a vis other Arab countries.

As for Israel vs Palestine.....that's another discussion.(And it is one I would rather not take part in as I have gotten tired of the whole crisis for several years now. It is almost as if both sides like fighting each other. ).

And where do those repressive governments come from, how did they just pop up in synchrony?

EVarn:
Many powerful Americans also have links to the house of Saud.
Apart from resource greed,Saudi Arabia is simply a balancing power in the region; to counter and limit Israeli and Iranian influence in the middle east,afterall,the west does not want Israel to slip beyond its direct control.

So why doesn't Saudi Arabia have nuclear weapons?

EVarn:
Arab countries such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia are also backed by powerful western nations like the US and France.

Yes, because of resources, Israel is backed up because they represent the interests of the United States in the Middle East and many powerful Americans have links to Israel.

Historically, Igbo deities are very dispensable, what mattered were the ancestors, the land and the supreme.

WhoBeThisMan:
you see your life? Anger and rage

And you're still pulling non-sense out of your ass. Wow!

bushdoc9919:
Israel also has a functioning democracy....and a society that runs according to the rule of law.(ok...some may take that with a pich of salt).

For example...a Palestinian family was burned in their house by a group of Israeli extermists.

Guess where the surviors got treated?. A Israeli hospital. Guess what the Israeli Prime Minister called the attack? An act of terror. (Note that he did not blame anyone but the Israeli terrorists for the attack).

In 1982...several Palestinians were massacred in Lebanon by a Jewish backed millitia. Three years later...an Israeli commission of inquiry strongly condemned the attack.

In 1997....a Jewish soldier went on a rampage in a Palestinian village...killing and injuring people. He was arrested and tried as a murderer.

As for Arab countries.....repressive regimes, people getting jailed for no good reason......all this builds up resentment....which boils over after many years. Take Syria....the Assads ruled harshly. People dissapeared for no good reason.

That leaves a lot of resentment......which builds up and explodes......ending up with the mess we have today.

Let's be honest.....if you want peace and prosperity.....don't be repressive.Arab countries have to learn the lessons of democracy and good governance.

That didn't really endear me to Israel. In fact you just brought up more reasons why the enterprise is a murderous one.

WhoBeThisMan:
and who is backing the arabs? The southern world?

Haha, you really think you made a point but all you did was just to pull a fart out of your nyash and call it a comment. Stick your head in a microwave please to kickstart your brain.

Gosh, half of Nigeria needs to be wasted, the stupidity is crippling.

powerfulsettingz:
who will tell the fool above the person above me that is God himself is the one protecting Israel not any country support that he claimed

You can't even write with proper grammar yet you're trying to tell me about some divine bullshit in world politics. Child. I guess it's "God" allowing them to do this.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/04/15/284C21DD00000578-3067010-image-a-37_1430748774943.jpg

You're bigger than an idiot. Fucking waste of space.

[size=18pt]Case Study 5: Calabar | Miami Beach[/size]

https://www.winterhavenhotelsobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Beach-miami1.jpg

Similarities: War climate with access to sea side and expandable beach. Laid back climate and population. Holiday, resorty feel to the atmosphere. Clear air and water, lots of vegetation and wildlife around. Away from major industries and pollution and not too urbanised.

Lessons to be learnt: Tourism and resorts, inviting international hotels and resorts to set up. Transportation to allow people to access the city easily. Expanding nightlife. Links to other parts of Cross River for tourism potential, Calabar airpot can be the entry point for Cross River.

ibkgab001:
As it was written in the bible

Nonsense.

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Israel is backed up by the western world.

Layloww:
Is the god sleeping? or is he in transit? If it is so powerful, let it save itself. GODWIN.

So if God win why are you still in a wretched country?

pentecostalism

AABeauty:
Thank you for saying this. As an African American who is proud of her African heritage, this and the comments supporting it makes me so sad. White folks really brainwashed us into hating ourselves. You'll never see anything like this an Asia where they have many shrines.

In fact does shrines make those countries billions every year. Who knows what museums and private collections would have paid this community for the artefact.

ROSSIKE:
Good job Ezeagu. Looking at these pics of foreign cities, I'd like to say that the main difference between us and them is that they've imbibed a culture that says ''we cannot have dust and sand on our roads. We cannot have open drains on our roads. We cannot have roads without pedestrian sidewalks''. Until we imbibe that same culture, we will always look more backward than we should.

Yes, and they are confident being them, they emphasise having a unique signature look, they preserve culture and promote traditional architecture.

This is the role of Christianity in Africa. To destroy African beliefs, and replace it with empty promises of an afterlife.

[size=18pt]Case Study 4: Aba | Munich[/size]

https://i.imgur.com/oVEID3F.jpg

Similarities: Munich has the strongest economy of any German city, Aba arguably has the strongest economy of any city in eastern Nigeria, it's only rival for that title would be Onitsha. Many manufacturing industries in the cities. Their populations are large relative to the surrounding areas. Potential to capitalise on local culture.

Lessons to be learnt: Securing investment. Transportation and connectivity, how to keep the roads maintained and links to high speed rail, airports and the like. Dealing with large diverse populations, and heavy amount of visitors. Waste management and management of other amenities.

I've always been uneasy about coastal protection in the coastal areas. Levee and other forms of protection from the sea should be in place since rising sea levels suggest that Bayelsa is in greatest danger of being taken by the sea.

https://www.spur.org/sites/default/files/migrated/images/levee.jpg

asha80:
depends on how those raised or born in diaspora think or are raised..not the like of Liverpool ibe that insists the pronunciation is IYB..meaning he has no regard about where he is from..i actually prefer those raised in Nigeria or preferably east and travelled out to become professional as those have inclination to where they are from

Like Ike become Iyke. These guys don't see anything of value from their homelands which is why they try and westernise themselves. Trust me, if all of these things we proposed here were to happen in real life some of these guys will be begging to come back.

londoner:
Op how I wish it were someone like you and not this cancerous KANU that had resulted in Igbo's looking towards their region. One thing Nigeria and Igbos often overlook is its diaspora.

The diaspora is not just people to send money for school fees many of us have positions in the engine rooms of nations Nigeria wants to emulate. Many are privy to how these systems work and are maintained. There needs to be some bridging of ideas and resources. If we can think of state cooperation for mutual benefit that would be a start. I know Obiano is thinking this way and the rest of us have a vested interest in its success.

We have small scale industries that need to be supported and allowed to grow, for example look at the shoe makers and tailors or even those that replicate almost anything at Aba or Onitsha.....we need to be organising them and even developing trade schools and colleges so they can produce world class quality goods and the term 'Aba or Igbo made' will actually have a different connotation. Many times you hear of young talents creating thongs and you never hear of them again after it is no longer news. This should not be so. We should have organisations or crowd funding facilities for their talent to flourish and one day be responsible for breakthrough innovation in Igboland and Nigeria.

Politically I think the diaspora should be more involved by supporting progressive candidates and their grass root ideas. When I say diaspora I mean those that were either born and raised in the diaspora or spent formative years abroad.

Great suggestions. From this thread alone there are so many thinkers out there that just need to find a way to connect and do wonders.

[size=18pt]Case Study 3: Owere | Berlin[/size]

[img]http://students.marshall.usc.edu/undergrad/files/2014/09/berlin.jpg[/img]

Similarities: Owere is a cultural centre, and a area for traditional entertainment and arts and other kind of entertainment. It's the centre of the area around. Like Berlin, Owere does not have a coast and is the main urban centre for the areas around.

Lessons to be learnt: General infrastructure. Handling tourism and leisure and capitalising on culture and the arts. Strengthening a unique image and become a destination for cerebral kinds. Education can also be emphasised. Keeping the skyline low and designing and maintaining suburban areas.

asha80:
sure about London having better infrastructure than new York?..i still think the issue of exclusive list should be revisited for any meaningful thing to happen...the country at the moment is structured for consumption and sharing rather than wealth creating and development

Well, it doesn't beat London's transport. How would the country realistically be restructured?

2sex:
A wise man would build his house for the rainy day as he knows not when he shall be very needy of it.

OP, may your days be long. This is what I have been saying. It's shame , as this thread has shown, that those clamoring for BIAFRA's disintegration have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to offer... Because they have nothing to lose.

I read the first few post from fools who think that their entourage would soon clamp down on this thread and disrupt the whole place with their usual Biafra chants.

My suggestion in a few weeks discussion sometime back is EXACTLY what you have done here.

But the fools who have no direction of sort didn't see anything good... How could they when they practically have NOTHING to offer?

BIAFRA BIAFRA... How can you build the biafra, they can't answer.

It leaves me shamefully wondering if IGBOS are arrogant lots? Who are these hydrA-headed babarians? I ask myself.

The Nnamdi Kanu has not in anyway sponsor a single brother in order to make them have a better taste of life, but he is about to use them to wreak havoc.

We have education of the head and of the heart, clearly, Nnamdi Kanu is not heartily educated.

I said why don't we build our home FIRST and turn it into the Japan or Dubai of the future. So that when we decide to the leave. The world will give us a NOD!

Of course we do not need a federal government to attain this. Everybody who dream of a better biafra has their quota to contribute. This isn't the civil war era... This 2015 and we should act out times intelligently.

God bless you OP.

Thanks. We need foresight, I was actually hesitantly listening to these Biafra guys at first, then I saw there was no plan except for shouting down other parts of Nigeria and I was convinced this was not the way. Looking out for development is far more important than any show of ego.

chinology:
If you like use semantics from the moon or the ionosphere that is your business but it does not change the fact that Onitsha is among the few most planned/structured cities in Nigeria.

Chino, you're very belligerent, and if you're not being paid for it, your obsession with defending all things Anambra to the point of tearing down other parts of eastern Nigeria is very strange, so I'm going to let you have this one for the sake of moving on this thread. I hope you oblige.

chinology:
I don't know where you are getting your gibberish but Onitsha is among the few most planned/structured cities in Nigeria. I don't when last you visited Onitsha Headbridge because if you have been there in last few months you will see that it has been transformed into a serene welcoming green park with its good road network, the same with Upper Iweka, Zik's Junction and most part of the city. The urban renewal is presently ongoing in all parts of city. Below is the Headbridge and some google earth structure of the city.

Straight roads are different from planning. That Onitsha was built on a grid plan doesn't mean it's automatically better planned. London is not a grid system but has better infrastructure than New York. If Bridgehead is truly being restructured, then that's great, but I still think there's a lot of drastic restructuring to take place taking the market people into account. And a central reservation with some grass is different from an actual park.

nwadiuko1:
Seeing that in eastern Nigeria every state has its selling point or edge above others.....I say we take advantage of such selling points in siting industries or facilities........take calabar (in cross river) for example....it will be placing round pegs in square holes to build manufacturing industries there knowing fully well that the place is "un paradisee sur terre" (hope I got that right) a paradise on earth....and best suited for tourism, hotels, ranchs and stuffs....
Enugu and cross river shares same qualities
Abia, anambra ( trade, manufacturing etc)
On and on and on.......hope someone understands what am saying

We understand. That's why I'm making case studies for different cities. Calabar is a sort of Miami-Cannes-Havana kind of place.

abagoro:
The ideas and capabilities are there but the most important is peace and unity. As for now every village wants to be everything at the same time and the preachers never see any good in synergy.

Nothing will come out of your proposal without we 1st of all seeing ourselves as one and equal and mapping out our boundaries.

Well, it's not really me proposal, your proposal is part of the proposal. So if that is a step you think is needed for progress (and I agree with you) then we should ideally tackle it.

vicenzo:
The major issue we currently have in the East is the dearth of credible and Informed leaders with foresight,leaders that burn with desire to uplift the socioeconomic condition of the region.

Its obvious these leaders abound within us. The problem is, how do we identify and elect them to bring about this transformation we seek.

Behind every great country are great leaders who burned with desires to will that which was in imagination, into reality.

Without this, nothing can be achieved, we will only end up exactly where we started.

I know why in Nigeria we like state, but I honestly believe in Nigeria as a whole we have too many state, the Imo and Abia for example should be one state, same from Akwa Ibom and Cross River, and Enugu and Anambra or Enugu and Ebony. Why I'm saying this is because when there are more people or a group of people it's been proven that people feel less accountable for anything that goes wrong, if we had less LGA's less states and the like we would have less people to hold accountable and they'd be put under a little more pressure. Also, for example, if there was a really good governor they would be elected to look over a larger area than they can today.

vicenzo:
Sure we can always spread our tentacles East, West, North and South.

But I expect a very competitive Odua, having a geographical advantage over us, in terms of the western expansion.

We have a geographical advantage towards central Africa. It would be more profitable to work towards our comparative advantage.

I think you're right. And historical eastern Nigeria has always faced eastwards. I think those of eastern Nigeria descent should start using their advantage in places like Gabon and Equatorial Guinea, eastern Nigerian already have foothold in those places and even down to Kinshasa, in fact, the whole of Africa really.

[size=18pt]Case Study 2: Asaba | Frankfurt[/size]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v-LEUgjTHe0/maxresdefault.jpg

Similarities: A more 'relaxed' commercial centre that's part of a heavy industrial metropolitan area that is Asaba-Onitsha-Nnewi-Awka. Frankfurt is in the Frankfurt Rhine-Main Metropolitan Region. Asaba can be a potential airport centre like Frankfurts airpot, one of the busiest airports in Europe. Asaba is also a centre of business, and can become more of a financial district than Onitsha I suppose.

Lessons to be learnt: Transportation, including airport expansion and handling excess air and road traffic from international destinations and the local region around. As with all the case studies, Asaba can learn from urban planning and also using the Niger River to its advantage, perhaps ferry's and well built civilian water carriers can be used as an alternative to road travel across the river. A possible Niger tunnel could be built in the more distant future.

vicenzo:
We should be expanding towards Central and East Africa, that's our traditional route, not towards West Africa.

If we could do both, why not? A jula ego. Asaba - Frankfurt case study coming.

I'm glad to see actual brains coming out on this thread, this will not be in vain, I know this. Ishilove, Seun, whoever, please, can you hide some of the disruptive posts on this thread? Thank you.