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Okay, so should we put an end to this debate, even though this is two years later? This is from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) World Directory of Minorities and Indigenous Peoples It lists 'Ibo' as one of Equatorial Guineas main languages, this may not mean it is 'native', but the UN recognises it as a significant one as well as some other sources. http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain?page=country&category=&publisher=MRGI&type=&coi=GNQ&rid=&docid=4954ce2a2&skip=0 |
exposureworld:Nah, how many times do we have to heard this? Igbo culture isn't fading as much as is it becoming secular and 'gentrified'. HungerBAD:The Igbo are from an ancient wave of migrations from around 6000 to 2000 years ago. The Edo people are not Ife, although their paramount rulership may have come from/been influenced by Ise. Ise, Isẹ and Aṣe seem to be related so it might be an ancient incantation that isn't necessarily from any group that exists as an ethnic/political entity now. |
obailala:Then that means you can show us what kids in your village invented then, no? |
It's true Anioma people aren't Igbo, they hail from the ancient Delta (originally de a luta) of the south southoids (sawa sawa) tribe. They loved Igbo culture so much that they took the name, language, culture, religion, and dressing, and food, and music, and town names. They are like the Nnewi race who trekked from Sudan in the 18th century. Ngwa, next thread. |
Slavery. |
Save it for Biafra nau. |
delishpot:Black is more of a political term, yes initially Europeans used it in an extreme way to classify the darkest people they saw (which is evidence of how the name is very foreign), but it has come to have a meaning of 'people of African descent' mostly to those who are of slave African descent. My question is more of aligning with that term, black, and its political implications, history, and even its ideas of racial ascension, e.g http://www.britannica.com/topic/Universal-Negro-Improvement-Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9gritude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Power |
oluwalfa:I think you're looking at this from now, and I'm trying to look at this from the before. If you see it before, then you will understand that the idea of black and white being racial categorisations was a European one, as opposed to just a term for a physical feature, there are other features that separate human groups by the way. Race says there is something inherently different about a group of people because of the way they look, the term also makes a distinction between humans, whereas Africans do not tend to see inherent qualities in people based on their looks but on other things like culture and religion. This is why a black person can be called 'beke', 'oyibo', or even 'onye ocha'. |
I wonder if they all died immediately. Imagine the stories. |
oluwalfa:I'm inclined to think ndi ocha and ndi oji were introduced via the discourse on race, I say this because of, 1. Albinos, and 2. historically terms such as oyibo and beke were used for 'white people' by Igbo people, even in the West Indies. But I see that your argument is that naturally people would see the difference of the so called races via skin colour, which may be true, but then we have to actually question if these were seen as 'races' in the European sense. |
nwadiuko1:So you wouldn't identify as black in the sense of voluntarily or apart from any kind of reason to do so like when you are targeted for being black. What I mean is that there are some (westernised) Africans who identify with black as part of 'Pan-Africanism' or "racial pride", but others understand that black is something that they have to deal with and only identify with it out of necessity. |
scholes0:A 'minority' in this country are those that do not have populations that can greatly influence the country like the so called big three (over 30 million each). The Fulani are just the ruling class of the Hausa majority, they don't make up to 10 million. For that they are a minority. |
kaura5000:Why is it that in a virtually Fulani country like Guinea, they don't make up up to 5 million people, and in the various West African and Sahel states they aren't more than 2 million but in Nigeria they magically spring up to 17 million as you propose? Nigeria's population and statistics is already a huge farce, anyway. |
oluwalfa:It's gone way over your head. The idea of 'races' by skin colour is an invention of Europe. The idea that a Somalian and Nigerian are one race is of European doing. The fact that you can't see out of this paradigm means you are unable to identify the conditioning you've undergone. Your original question was 'did white people call themselves white?', which I'm assuming was an assumption that white people were named so by members of other so called races, and the fact is that they weren't. White people called themselves white people and called others black, brown, and so on. Now the simple question is (it's really quite simple), taking the 'exonymic' history and sociopolitical slant of 'black' into account, do you identify as a black person? |
Mad country. For chicken change. Man! |
rottennaija:Nonsense. Nigeria has always had an issue with female child molestation, I think the statistic was 1/4 girls will be molested in Nigeria. |
IsraeliAIRFORCE:Not literally, as in the sociopolitical term 'black'. |
oluwalfa:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#Modern_racial_hierarchies |
Sorry, what am I supposed to be looking at? |
oluwalfa:I'm talking about the political and historic context of black. 'Black people' didn't call themselves black, black is a very loose term that can mean anything form a Somalian to a pacific islander. Europeans used these terms as a tool of racial classification and is rooted in slavery and colonisation. It is meant to be in contrast with 'white', therefore many people in Africa do not really know about being black, do people in your village identify as 'black people'? That is why I ask if you identify as black. |
If Ijaw and Ibibio are minorities, then the Fulani are a minority. |
alpontif:Simply there is no such thing as Niger Delta. Niger Delta is a collection of random ethnic groups whose only claim to unity is crude oil and not being Igbo. That is why there is no solid movement among these groups that call themselves Niger Delta. |
jomoh:This is nonsense, if they're that concerned about their security, let them focus on drilling oil off Lagos' coast. |
1toRtoiSe1:I really really hope these guys commence building this dockyard in wherever because of this comment. |
If Boko Haram ends, another group will take its place because the conditions that allow for such groups to rise will not have improved. Plus ISIS has already taken over |
Bump. Anyone else? |
Asexual, or just a choice? |
Have they finished the killings in Borno? Shouldn't there be a concentration on ending the killings, instead of apologies? |
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