₦airaland Forum

JANK23H:
You are a pathetic liar!

I am from Sagbama LGA in Bayelsa; precisely Adagbabiri.I can tell you with all authority that there are no indigenous Igbos or Igbo settlements in Sagbama.They can't even erect a hut,let alone have a village.

Junkies!

You lie. There's a community called Osekwenike in Sagbama LGA. Are you denying it? Who are the people of the community?
Tell us also about Igbogene in Yenagoa LGA. The settlement is about 5km to Rivers state.

Emilokoiyawon:
I agree with you on BY but Rivers is not debatable. Even Wike is an Igbo man. He denies it because of Nigerian politics but he knows the truth. Port Harcourt is Igbo and Ijaw 50 - 50. Furthermore, most of the Imo border areas in Rivers state are 100% Igbo.

PH is not 50/50. Take a look at the PH map again. It is majorly Igbo. The Ijaw (Kalabari) areas are mostly swamps. Most of the mainland is Igbo (Ikwerre) and Ogoni. Old PH was more of the Port area (swamp) but today, PH has grown inland which obviously is Igbo.

Emilokoiyawon:
Without detailed and convincing evidence I cannot agree with this. Everyone knows that Bayelsa is pure Ijaw land. The Igbos there are probably recent migrants just like the Igbos in Lagos and Edo state.

People need to be guarded in this country and stop spreading lies. I am not Ijaw but I will never sit back and watch trouble makers lay claim to Ijaw land. If the Igbos have clear evidence that they are indigenous to Bayelsa, then they should present the evidence so that everyone can see clearly. Until then stop using low quality videos to heat up the polity.

I quite agree with your position. This video isn't convincing enough and can't be used as an evidence to state clearly any claim.
This is my view on this issue.
Have I heard of few Igbo communities in Bayelsa? Yes I have. Three to be precise.
Have I read convincingly about them? No I haven't.
Do I believe any of such communities exist? Yes I do.
Why do I believe it even without any convincing proofs? It is because Bayelsa share boundary with both Delta and Rivers state and those boundaries have Igbo/Igboid communities located there. This is around the tributaries of the lower River Niger below Aboh in Ukwuani area.
Are there any Igboids in Bayelsa with proofs? Yes.
Who are these Igboids? They are the Ekpeyes whose land in Rivers state shares boundary with Bayelsa.

Susu888:
Nigeria don suffer...

Just look at the kind of creatures commenting on this forum

Action has been and is being taken on these killers(bandits, evil herdsmen and boko boys) day in day out but you will never praise the efforts of the security agencies.

All of you sympathizers/wishers of calamity on nigeria .... May you all die a miserable death!!

God bless the efforts Nigeria's heroes... You keep risking your lives for peace in this country but receive nothing but insults and condemnation from these senseless pigs we call citizens.




Shut up there, hypocritical piece of sh*t... If you hate naija that much Go and die or fvcking deport yourself to nearest country....stop disturbing us.

Remember to apologise to me while kneeling down when you realize that I was right and you were wrong.

After raping your women and killing your men and children with your houses burnt and farmlands destroyed, they return to appeal for peace and reconciliation without full prosecution and restitution where possible. You will be a fool to accept it.

I can be very creative but I've never thought of this
Rochas Okorocha is an apprentice before Uzodinjo.

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LMAO. These terrorist in government really think that they can deceive us with this arrangee clip and pix. They went to Benue state and killed Gana then chopped off his hands. They went to Omoku in Rivers state and killed Don wani after which his corpse was shown to all. All over the South they will ensure to kill the wanted persons but when they came to the fulanis they tied piece of cloths on the eyes of random persons took the pix and sent it through their new found sycophant. We know how they operate and will never be deceived by them.
We dey wait for una come next year. After Nigeria divides, you can organise whatever you want for your terrorist brothers and enjoy them as you want. It won't be of any use to us.

oyatz:
I am NOT denouncing anything but correcting the wrong impression that the tribe of the founder of a dynasty must always be the ethnic group of the town.

In any case, Jaja , though was born an IIgbo man but died as an Ijaw man and not an Igbo.

If Opobo and Bonny are Igbo cities, there won't be need for all these debates because it would have been crystal clear to all that they are Igbo cities just as we don't need debates to know that Owerri, Mbaise and Aba are Igbo cities.

Jaja did not die an Ijaw man. He made contact with his family back at Amaigbo. The current Jaja family have continued to relate with the source at Amaigbo. If you don't know something, don't involve your self.

bobowaja:
I know them. Even Omoyele Sowore is a typical example. Most of them have absolved Yoruba culture, and Yoruba never lay claimed to them in anyways. I was shocked someone was crying because people spoke Igbo, so they are automatically one of you. Na wa o

It's best you shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines if you don't know much about the topic.
Opobo is a city state founded by Jaja himself and was king over her until the time of his abduction by the British. Jaja was of Igbo origin and Igbo language was established in Opobo right from her day of establishment.
Bonny on the other hand is a collection of separate communities with grand Bonny being the largest. Other communities that make up Bonny are Finima, Oloma, Kuruma, Ayama etc. Of all the places that made up Bonny Island, the theatre of focus is Grand Bonny where most of the history of Bonny is formed. Most historians have written of the ancient kings of Bonny as Igbos with some including even the Igbo ancestry of the wives. The presence of Igbos on Bonny predated the oil palm era and had established them as a people to be reckoned with on the Island. A great deal of names of players in Bonny and her environs have been noted and written as Igbos therefore no one can deny the footprint of Igbos in Bonny. You must bear in mind that there are different groups of Igbos that inhabited Bonny from earlier times with the Ndokis being the main group. Jaja was not Ndoki, he was Amaigbo(Isu group). It's note worthy to state that Oko Jumbo, Maduka his father and Jaja were all Igbos and controlled practically the town at a time. Igbos had overwhelming population on the Island as at 200 years ago.
The Ibanis were also were also written to have been players in Bonny right from time and inspire of the pre-eminence of Igbo language in the Island, no one can deny the Ibani claims on the Island. It is improper to write the history of a place without respecting the input of the different people who helped to build it up. This is where I'm angry at Ijaw revisionists who remove entirely any Igbo heritage of the town and downplayed any claims thereof. Ndokis and Ibanis have stake in the town which everyone must respect. Other affiliated groups must not cause problems where there are no problems. It was Allagoa all the way from Bayelsa and his likes who came to change the narrative. The Nwaotam festival, a clear Igbo festival with roots from Ndoki is the biggest of festivals on the Island. That s Igbo heritage right there. We must learn to be inclusive when sharing the history of a cosmopolitan town with over 200 years of well documented history. A winner takes all position is a recipe for disaster in such situations.

Make una leave Jonah Jang and Birom people alone o. Na Lalong be governor, na im una suppose to de worry. Make Lalong train im own security take use to secure the state.

Should we be interested in peace more than justice at a time like this? What is the worth of the life of a Nigerian when you can be picked randomly and beaten to death? Questions will be asked and few noise will be made after which everything dies down and the murderous police men are left off the hook to murder another person only for the same process to repeat itself.
Enough of the lukewarmness. Give the killers fire for fire. You can just pick an innocent young man and beat him to death and except his people to just move on without justice. It should never be accepted. That police station must feel the heat because it is the only way they get the message.

Where are the videos and pictures of dead bandits for record purposes? Eternal vigilance is the first step towards are successful security. Southerners must know that the current Nigerian army will never defend them. If they can massacre unarmed youths at Lekki, they can massacre any community in the South just to fulfil the plans and wishes of the fulani controlled federal government. It is our duty as youths all over southern Nigeria to resist anyone including those in uniform who chose to be fulani willing tools of oppression and conquest. Do not fall for their lies on the operation in Zamfara. Remain vigilant and prepare for them. 2022 is less than 4 months from today. Always remember.

allcomage:
That's Igbo youths are forging ahead with Biafra restoration with out looking sideways and back.

This is what they don't realize. This time around there's no going back. We have no future in Nigeria. Not today and not in the future. Being a second class citizen in your supposed country can never be accepted by us.

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BafanaBafana:
That's bad of him to say.
But one difference between Igbos and northerners is the way they celebrate evil. If boko haram kills anyone, you see Igbos online celebrating, if bandits kill, they celebrate, if ESN kill security men, they celebrate. You will never see s northerner siding or jubilating at the gains of terrorists (Quote me with evidence if I'm wrong). Imagine Ohaneze defending someone like Kanu! Tueh!
This attitude makes them repungent to other people, and they justify their actions by always pointing to others.

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Until you recognize the pains of others, don't expect others to feel your pains. The Nigerian military and police derive pleasure in killing wantonly any Igbo youth without other tribes speaking out in condemnation of such wickedness save for few instances just of recent. The Igbos who have been suffering this injustice won't just forget so easily the loses they suffer from such gross oppression which no one condemns. The natural response expected from such people when others too suffer is either to remain silent by feigning total ignorance of the killings or to make fun of such victims with the hope that those victims will realize the importance of condemning any form of oppression irrespective of who the victim is because what goes around comes around. It is people with warped mind like you who misinterprete such responses by terming them evil.
Was it not on nairaland that majority of southern youths cheered on the partisan Nigerian security to murder armless protesting Igbo youth for no tangible reason? Wasn't it here we read educated people wishing more bullets to the murderous Nigerian army as they went on rampage killing both Massob and IPOB members? They didn't know that the monster they helped to create will turn around to bite them. The Lekki massacre was enough to reset their heads. Deranged minds like you only see the fault of Igbos but see not wrong in the evil treatment given to our people in the first place. What goes around comes around. Always have it at the back of your mind. Learn to speak up against the humiliation and killing of armless Igbo youths or any group of people protesting for a just cause so that paradventure you become the victim of biased security men tomorrow, they will also speak up in your defence.

Ekealterego:
You have to understand that people like Eastlink, Abagworo, Odenigbo and all these older people on this forum, though good but were also for the most irresponsible disgraceful episode of disunity and washing of dirty lies on this forum about Igbos.
They opened thread upon thread destroying our images but attacking every corner of Igbo city.
People like Bigfrancis1 can be said to be more neutral and matured and probably contributed more (maybe because he was an admin).

These first group ended up causing so much harm and scar on our image for that period that almost all the information you could use against Igbos was picked up from their threads.
Many of them have joined one political party or the other. Take Abagworo for example.

You have a strong point especially that of Abagworo. Odenigbo Aroli is another one of them.

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Juliusmalema:
Igbos are not Ipobs and Ipobs are not igbos.

But maybe Abians are IPobs and Ipobs are Abians.

We already know who is behind the moniker so enjoy una Ipob status.

Meanwhile Those Ipobs are bound to be useless.

Someone will just sit in his father's compound and be dragging another town.

What sort of stupidity is that?

Even the people themselves no send them.

There is no better definition of fools than this display of fffoooollllishnnness.

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Fulani terrorist hate IPOB all you want but there's nothing you can do. IPOB continues to wax strong day after day. Continue to cry alamajiri.

afube:
There is freedom of worship in Igboland the last time I checked, history is by and large subjective.....all you need to do is to issue rebuttals to any teachings of MNK you do not agree with. Ok, we should become pacifists and be rendered homeless by marauding Fulanis just like the hapless benue indigenes ! bros you no get case!

Eastlink was a guy I had regard for until recently. His contributions have been immense towards the cause of Igbos but it's difficult to understand his outburst and disregard for MNK and IPOB. Today, I question the motive behind any contribution from him.
Nigeria is already on the path of collapse like a domino and every intelligent person must help to form a protective barrier for his territory leaving any internal difference for now. Before joining IPOB, I did discuss with the then members stating my area of disagreement and bringing suggestions on how things can be better. I came to realize over time that my input will be more effective when I become a member which is what I did. Truly, I can say that I helped improve the movement. This is why I'm very proud of the group today. Let us try to be wholistic in our approach to our issues in Nigeria. A whole barrage of destructive plots were hatched against us to utterly finish us but thanks to God that today, we survived and even above it have made a great come back. The least we can do is to allow petty recognition to be a clog in the wheel of our progress. Let us focus on our mission and leave recognition for when the dust has settled.

Tomek09:
Kalabari and the whole of South South belongs to Igbo on the basis of conquest as the major tribe or ethnic group found in old Eastern region.

Just like the North where Hausa-Fulani tribe is dominant so it should be for Igbo in the South.

Yorubas are already dominant in SW with Ijaw as minority in Ondo State.

Igbos in history did not engage in any comquest and today are not interested in any conquest. We love peace, justice and progress therefore all the tribes around us enjoyed their stay with us in history. The dirty weeds sowed by our enemies among the various tribes that made up the old eastern region only grew up to mess up our region because some of us helped nurtured those weeds until they grew up to begin choking our people while the enemies sucked our land dry. A lot of lies were said and the truth was suppressed for many decades but today the truth is coming out. All the lies some of our neighbours fabricated to poach on our territories when we were down are been revisited and investigated. There's no any conquest behind it. It is all about the truth being said simple.

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AmTruth:
May the good Lord grant Nigeria Peace. AmenMy prayers for our Leaders and Country Nigeria.
God bless Nigeria today, that her Leaders will lead with insights on Peace and development.

God bless President Buhari.
God bless Vice President Osinbajo.
God bless our Security Agencies.
God bless the Ministers.
God bless the our Lawmakers.
God bless our Governors.
God bless our Local Government Chairmen
God bless our Religious and Traditional Leaders.

God bless Nigeria.

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Death to the human abbatoir. Death to the blood sucking Nigeria.

The useless OP thinks with this video that he reluctantly uploaded, people will now sheepishly listen to his campaign of calumny against MNK, ESN and IPOB. He doesn't realize that his madness has gone beyond assumption. Time is ticking as we get ready for our Biafra. The OP must go and tell his employers that we must avenge all our people killed by fulani terrorists.

BKayy:
Never learn Igbo history from Wikipedia or some journals by Anglophilic people.
If you are conversant with Igbo history you will realise that there was a mad obsession in trying to make our history, political structure and way of life look like that of our neighbours because then they thought that was the thing. They never saw the sophistication of our Democratic lifestyle until date.
Such obsession brought about;
1) Communities being founded by one man
2) ERI being the father of all Ndigbo
3) One king like that existing and names made up to back it up
4) Now the new one is Ndigbo being of Jewish origin.
It was the same obsession that made NCNC reinstate Traditional Rulers in 1950, almost 30 years after abolition by the British. The result was that most of the reinstated were sons of former ones abolished on seat, thus bringing about the lie that some monarchy was hereditary in Alaigbo. This didn't last long until the military cemented it in 1975 with their decree.
Like I told him (Abohboy) before, you as well should investigate.
What you read online is not the real Igbo history or even close to it.
That was how they lied of Eze Nri, Aro and Onitsha being ancient kingdoms until that one was demystified.
Investigate

While I understand your scepticism concerning revisionists who want to doctor our history to suit a certain narrative for their own purpose, I admonish you to make some research through journals and other historical records that were done in the early 19th century down to the end of that century. For your information, I don't source my records from Wikipedia.
There's a book I came across while I was in the Library in the SE. It was about the Nri Priest who the European author exclaimed and referred to as the king of all Igbos. He was like 'at last, I've found the king of all Igbos'. It was in the early 20th century. While he isn't right in his declaration, one can understand what informed his statement. The ubiquity of the Nri men in many Igbo communities scattered on both sides of the Niger river playing important roles suggests that such a man should rightly be referred to as the king of all Ndigbo.
Ezearo on the other hand was of no much importance but rather ceremonial. The Aro tentacle that permeated most of Eastern Nigeria never bore the strength and authority of a single man like is written of famous kings in history. In all of Igbo land, only two men fit such positions because of the army they controlled. Eze Obi Ossai in the first quarter 1800s and Jaja of Opobo in the last quarter of that century. Both were widely known and respected because of what they could do and undo. They were kings in their own right but none wielded power as to cover even 1/40 of Igboland. This is why it's said that Igbos had no kings. These ones should not be mistaken in the calibre of such figures as Nwiboko of the Izzi area. He was of mid 20th century during the haydays of the British instituted warrant chiefs.
Argue no further nwanna. Go and read up on old records that predates the partitioning of Africa in 1885 by Europeans. Before then, no European exercised any military power in Eastern Nigeria and the entire Niger Delta.

BKayy:
Mtcheww... I think I have explained this your confusion somewhere.
I don't have energy to repeat it. Just read about the Warri protest in early 20th century and the warrant chiefs the protest was against.
I don't have time to clarify Nollywood induced history today

You don't know history nwanna. We are talking about mid 19th century yet here you are telling us about early 20th century. When was Nana of Itsekiri deposed and Dore Numa appointed as Warrant Chief? I know this topic more than you. Allow the matter to die.
Some Igbo clans had kings but such kings weren't absolute as is found other places. History recorded the interaction the Europeans had with such men. If Eze Obi Ossai and Jaja of Opobo weren't recorded, you would have argued if such men ever existed.
Go and read up about the British expedition on the River Niger in the early 19th century. There you will learn more about our people.
A lot of Igbos don't know much about our history.

BKayy:
You must be talking from a Nollywood point of view.
All the people you listed were all warrant chiefs (with exception of Jaja who was a mere beaurocrat) which the British later abolished in 1929

You don't know history so it's best you avoid this history. Obi Ossai was so powerful that the British had to send an advance party to get clearance before they head to Aboh. How can you now claim he was a warrant chief ( instituted by the British)?. It's better you go and read up more on our history. Like I said, kingship among Igbos wasn't something we celebrated. It was more of a religious head assumed a communal leader or a ceremonial position. Warrant chiefs started after the partitioning of Africa in the Berlin conference.

Abba 'de Thief' Kyari will vomit all that he stole. He will answer for all the mass murder that he committed.

Kama m ga atasi anu dachie uzo, kama ka m hapu ita anu.

BKayy:
There was nothing like Eze either.
Ndigbo never had any word for King. The word Eze was reserved for Priests as Eze mmụọ per Say.
Thats why those they wrongly attributed as Kings were never kings but Priests. Example Eze Nri, Eze Arọ, Eze Chime etc.
When you are ready, research about the Obi of Aboh. He is the first warrant chief.
Places like Ubani and Opobo had their richest called Kings, a type of Bureaucracy.

You're wrong about the Eze title. It is the right word for king in Igbo language. What we may argue about is the concept of kingship as is widely held by others. Igbos by default don't subscribe to kingship with absolute powers. The few kings like Eze Obi Ossai of Aboh and Jaja of Opobo were only revered because of how strong they were possessing both armed men and much wealth that caused fear among any would-be dissidents. Other Igbo kings were either powerful priests like Eze Nri or ceremonial like Obi of Onitsha or Eze Aro. Most other unknown Igbo kings were mostly ceremonial. If you ask the Nnewi people, they will tell you their kingship stool has been around before the British came. How come were such kings not known or recognized? It's simply because they were ceremonial without absolute powers to command any person to be put to death. This is the type of leadership that sits more comfortable with our people.
Obi of Aboh(I don't know the specific one you're speaking of) wasn't any warrant chief. The most famous of all the Ezes of Aboh being Eze Obi Ossai, died in the early 1840s. His son Eze Obi Chukwuma succeeded him. This one wasn't as strong and influential as his father. He did welcome the British especially the missionaries as his father advised him.

Anyone who knows Kalabari's history very well know that they're descendants of mixed people with Igbo and Ijaw being the largest contributors. Efik, Ibibio and edoids around down Niger tributaries also added to the fold making the place a cocktail of different persons. Two things however standout which is the language and culture of the people. Igbo language is predominant there together with a dialect similar to Ijaw but the customs and traditions resemble that of coastal people around the area specifically more of the Ijaws. Areas traditionally regarded as Kalabari doesn't include Okrika and Bonny. These two see themselves different even up till date.
This recent story of carving a niche for themselves isn't surprising. In fact, it is expected because the truth is that there's hardly any sincerity in the creation of numerous 'ethnic nationalities in Rivers state. There's hardly any state in Nigeria that is as politically jinxed as Rivers state. Even Ogoni don't agree that they all are one. Some Igbo groups there have the same problem. Now even the Kalabari have started their own. I expect the Andoni and Nkoro to start their own too.
There's too much lies in Rivers state.

ablejesus26:
Oga shut up that rubbish hole you call mouth �� anyone who is not as brainwashed like you and joins you to bow down to a scammer becomes fulani,BMC, Efulefu ��.
It's known here already that the biggest fear an ipob brainwashed thug has is to see a sensible Igboman who is not as brainwashed as himself ��.
If I support an occult group whose only achievement is bringing constant basketfull of trouble into my father's land that makes me an efulefu.

You don't want to try your tribe tagging game on me,I will beat you to it anytime, anyday.
Taquiya possessed kanuri terrorist �

Proudly IPOB- the tormentor of the terrorist fulani government.
God Bless MNK
God Bless ESN
God Bless IPOB
God Bless Biafra

Buckeyemedia1:
But when they gave you the oil wells & added 13% derivatives you forgot they were a Fulani political party?

Touché.. We know the recent concessions were meant for something dastard. We go treat una case well well.

proeast:
The earlier Southerners break away, the better for them. The North will never recover again, I mean THEY WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE NORMAL LIFE AGAIN. There is currently hundreds of thousands of bandits currently operating in the North and millions hoping to join them.

There is an organized syndicate that is responsible for the limitless flow of AK47 rifles proliferating across that region, particularly between Libya, Mali, Niger, Chad and Northern Nigeria. Put all these together and add the massive illiteracy and poverty in that godforsaken region, then you will realize that the situation will only continue to deteriorate.

Once the North becomes saturated and awash with the hobbesian state, the competition will become unbearable for them and they will naturally start moving South for better prospects. Even Lagos won't be safe and no one would dare use our highways anymore. No one will dare go outside the cities anymore. Then gradually again, they will start infiltrating our cities. I don't need to be a CIA agent to decipher this, no because any careful observer can easily deduct it. Winter is coming o ye Southerners!

Lastly, don't think that when Buhari leaves aso rock that all these will stop, no it wouldn't because the "cancer" has metastated. The only way we can save ourselves down South is to severe our links with the North. They chose this path and must go it alone.

You are very correct. This has been my call for many years because I'm good at projecting into the future. The core north will never recover from the self made damage they did to themselves and it is others that will suffer it. There's extreme poverty in the far north caused by illiteracy and religion. Bad leadership and harsh climatic conditions has made it worse. If southern Nigeria with all the education, entrepreneurial spirit and friendly religion plus communal/club support can still be facing difficult challenges at survival that has pushed millions of her youth into internet fraud plus illicit drug trade, just imagine what the situation will be in the far north. It is a nightmare!
The only solution is for the South and middlebelt to break lose from them to face the consequences of their poor decisions. If we fail to break lose, millions of our own people will be killed in few years to come. You just can't help them. Where will you start from? The failure of the US in Afghanistan should be an eye opener to everyone. The US trained 300,000 Afghan troops and equipped them more than what the Taliban can ever dream of but we all can see the result today. Where Christian soldiers not been murdered by fellow soldiers of the muslim faith because they felt the terrorist are their brothers? All the effort of those soldiers have become waste.
Leave the core north to their problem while you can.

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