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These are also some of the reasons;

The countries mentioned below on the weblink are the top-20 most industrialised countries in the world and of which SA is one of them.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G20_industrial_nations

This was some of the reasons why they promoted SA. The RSA is one of the countries that are always sitting on the meeting with the G8 countries in a meeting called G8+5.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8%2B5

agaugust: [img]http://www5.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/Images/olc/products/11-626-xie.jpg[/img]



that source is unreliable.....

what is a tiny Faroe Island doing on that list while the paradise called Singapore is missing ?
what is Iceland with its collapsed economy doing on that list and the worlds 2nd biggest economic giant China is missing ?

the source also contradicts itself below...

The CIA argues that the countries in its list are

also known as the First World, high-income countries, the North, industrial countries;

The CIA notes that these countries
generally have a per capita GDP in excess of $15,000; although four OECD countries and South Africa have figures well under $15,000.

that source is as bad as global firepower that ranks Thailand's military above North Korean and South African military...thats big a joke, Thailand has more Rice farms than North Korea and South Africa, but not more military weapons. lol

so dont start dancing and drumming, i think some dude wats to give you some 'hallucinations' lol
at the african level, south africa is the most developed for reasons of its 5 million white men citizens who built is like Europe because they thought they would rule there forever, but the black men were lucky that politics changed in 1994 with mandela becoming president.

Hahaha!!! So in that case we should never trust our newspapers, News and the CIA reports. However, SA is now listed as a developed country, like it or not. Why does anything positive about SA has to be rubbished in our faces?

all4naija: Hehehe... Yet South Africa is not as developed as South Korea that is not on that list, the link is likely framed by somebody in Wikipedia

Why do I have to care about South Korea, all I care about is Mzansi, that is Azania. We are now classified as a first world country, whether you like it or not.

When I first read about it I couldn't believe my eyes and when I saw it on the news, I rubbed my eyes in a complete disbelief. It was announced officially that SA is no longer listed as a developing Country and that she and Turkey were the latest to be officially classified as DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.

SA is no longer classified as developing country by CIA, the world body which classify developmental state of any country. Here below is a weblink to read further.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Factbook_list_of_developed_countries

Goodbye the old SA.

I promised many of you that I will attach weblink that will prove to you that SA is no longer listed as a developing country. It is now officially classified as a developed country by CIA, the world body which classify developmental state of any country. Here under you will find the truth.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Factbook_list_of_developed_countries

That perception that SA is a developing country has long been buried by CIA. In Africa is only SA and Mauritius which are listed as such.

speedyboi: sorry. That was a typo...due to haste.

I mean't LTE. I wrote HSPDA cos my modem gets that more often. Infact, it has changed to HSPDA again.

That means the LTE network is still very weak in your area. I still remember it used to do that when it was first introduced in Pretoria before it became stable.

zetdee: Thats advanced 3G. Nigerians are known for being boastful, and claiming others are jealous of them.

Thank you!! 4G is LTE and not every modem or cellphone is compatible with its application. You have to upgrade in order to enjoy its benefits, that's why I had to upgrade my cellphone to catch LTE network.

speedyboi: PLS WAKE UP from slumber

What is that for sir?

speedyboi: I think it's a radio station..........to my knowledge. But it is government owned.

SABC is an Acronym for South African Broadcasting Corporation. It is a state owned corporation that own number of radio stations based on 11 official languages spoken in SA and TV stations. The government appoint the board to run the corporation in conjunction with the Minister of Communication.

zetdee: University of technology, Cape Peninsula University of Technology (CPUT)

Wow!! Western Cape. How is Cape Town?

speedyboi: this poster is A very good example of what I was refering to!

It amazes me how Nigerians will say what they know nothing about with so much confidence just to prove how inferior they are to others.
The same way a south African is ready to say what he/she knows nothing about to prove superiority. Smh! Everything is just a psychological thing.

Mr man. You say there is no 4g in Nigeria? What if I tell you my modem is currently displaying 'HSPDA' (4g)?

Lol @ ur fibre optic cable bullsh/it. Do you even know glo is the first telecommunication company to lunch intercontinental fibre optic cable network in Africa?

Your ignorance is alarming and you need to make use of your google More.

Sorry Mister, HSPDA or HSDPA are not fully-fledged 4G, those are merely advanced 3G. The forth generation (4G) is different from those.

zetdee: Correct, i read that we'll be in the top 5. I'll be doing my inservice training at a newly built power station next simester.

Are you studying from FET(technical), University of technology or University?

zetdee: SA had the cheapest electricity in the world, so that attracted alot of industries that consume large quantities of power, metal smelters consume alot of the electricity. Eskom also supplies other Southern African countries, during winter there is a spike in electric use therefore load shedding takes place. After Madupi goes online in 2014 current demand will be covered, but future projections requires more power to be added.

www.mg.co.za/index.php?view=article&urlid=2013-04-26-00-eskoms-deals-leave-us-in-the-dark

www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/eskom-outlines-r149bn-transmission-expansion-plan-to-2022-2012-10-23

Very true, SA is still in need for more. That's why it has been building small solar powerstations and encouraging private companies to manufacture solar geyser.

zetdee: Electricity production is the best barometer of how industrialized a country is. South Africa is rank no15, after 2017 when Madupi and Kusile goes online, it will be in the top 10, that will still not be enough to meet demand.

Rank Country/Region Electricity
production
(GWh)[1] Date of
information
N/A World Total 21,325,115 2010[2]
1 United States 4,325,900 2010[2]
2 China 4,206,500 2010[2]
N/A European Union 3,332,111
2010[2]
3 Japan 1,145,300 2010[2]
4 Russia 1,036,800 2010[2]
5 India 922,200 2010[2]
6 Canada 629,900 2010[2]
7 Germany 621,000 2010[2]
8 France 573,200 2010[2]
9 Korea, South 497,200 2010[2]
10 Brazil 484,800 2010[2]
11 United Kingdom 381,200 2010[2]
12 Spain 300,400 2010[2]
13 Italy 298,200 2010[2]
14 Mexico 270,000 2010[2]
15 South Africa 268,100 2010[2](Note
SA after Medupi powerstation in 2014
will be in the top 5 in the world)
16 Taiwan 247,000 2010[2]
17 Australia 245,300 2010[2]
18 Turkey 239,100 2012
19 Iran 226,100 2010[2]
20 Saudi Arabia 214,000 2010[2]
21 Ukraine 187,900 2010[2]
22 Indonesia 166,400 2010[2]
23 Poland 157,400 2010[2]
24 Thailand 156,400 2010[2]
25 Sweden 155,400 2010[2]
26 Egypt 143,500 2010[2]
27 Argentina 128,500 2010[2]
28 Norway 124,500 2010[2]
29 Venezuela 116,700 2010[2]
30 Malaysia 116,200 2010[2]
31 Netherlands 114,800 2010[2]
32 Vietnam 100,170 2010[2]
33 Pakistan 93,350 2012[2]
34 United Arab Emirates 88,600
2010[2]
35 Czech Republic 85,900 2010[2]
36 Belgium 84,197 2009[3]
37 Kazakhstan 82,700 2010[2]
38 Finland 80,400 2010[2]
39 Switzerland 71,200 2010[2]
40 Austria 70,800 2010[2]
41 Philippines 67,700 2010[2]
42 Chile 60,200 2010[2]
43 Romania 59,800 2010[2]
44 Israel 58,300 2010[2]
45 Colombia 56,900 2010[2]
46 Portugal 55,800 2010[2]
47 Paraguay 54,912 2008[3]
48 Kuwait 54,600 2010[2]
49 Greece 53,200 2010[2]
50 Uzbekistan 52,300 2010[2]
51 Bulgaria 46,000 2010[2]
52 Singapore 45,400 2010[2]
53 Algeria 45,200 2010[2]
54 New Zealand 43,400 2010[2]
55 Bangladesh 39,100 2010[2]
56 Denmark 38,600 2010[2]
57 Hong Kong 38,300 2010[2]
58 Syria 38,705 2008[3]
59 Hungary 37,400 2010[2]
60 Peru 34,800 2010[2]
61 Serbia 34,711 2008[3]
62 Iraq 34,600 2008[3]
63 Belarus 34,500 2010[2]
64 Ireland 28,300 2010[2]
65 Slovakia 27,400 2010[2]
66 Libya 26,947 2008[3]
67 Qatar 23,700 2010[2]
68 Korea, North 22,517 2008[3]
69 Puerto Rico 20,921 2008[3]
70 Nigeria 20,130 2008[3]
71 Ecuador 19,500 2010[2]
72 Morocco 19,493 2008[3]
73 Azerbaijan 18,700 2010[2]
74 Turkmenistan 17,400 2010[2]
75 Cuba 16,990 2008[3]
76 Iceland 16,484 2009[3]
77 Tajikistan 15,971 2008[3]
78 Slovenia 15,634 2009[3]
79 Oman 15,085 2009[4]
80 Mozambique 14,975 2008[3]
81 Dominican Republic 14,577
2008[3]
82 Tunisia 14,395 2008[3]
83 Jordan 13,010 2008[3]
84 Bosnia and Herzegovina 12,692
2008[3]
85 Kyrgyzstan 11,702 2008[3]
86 Croatia 11,658 2008[3]
87 Bahrain 11,217 2008[3]
88 Estonia 9,984 2008[3]
89 Zambia 9,752 2007[3]
90 Sri Lanka 9,507 2007[3]
91 Uruguay 9,265 2007[3]
92 Trinidad and Tobago 9,100 2010[2]
93 Lebanon 9,030 2007[3]
94 Zimbabwe 8,890 2007[3]
95 Costa Rica 8,808 2007[3]
96 Guatemala 8,425 2007[3]
97 Congo, Democratic Republic of the
8,220 2007[3]
98 Georgia 7,970 2008[4]
99 Jamaica 7,324 2007[3]
100 Ghana 6,746 2007[3]
101 Sudan 6,509[3] 2009
102 Burma 6,286 2007[3]
103 Macedonia 6,051 2007
104 Armenia 5,941 2006
105 Lithuania 5,700 2010[2]
106 Panama 5,661 2005
107 Kenya 5,502 2005
108 Albania 5,385 2005
109 Honduras 5,339 2005
110 El Salvador 5,316 2006
111 Côte d'Ivoire 5,305 2005
112 Bolivia 5,293 2006
113 Latvia 4,778 2005
114 Cyprus 4,618 2006
115 Yemen 4,456 2005 (estimations)
116 Cameroon 4,090 2005
117 Kosovo 3,996 2006
118 Moldova 3,881 2005
119 Papua New Guinea 3,698 2005
120 Mongolia 3,430 2006
121 Luxembourg 3,156 2005
(estimations)
122 Ethiopia 2,864 2005
123 Montenegro 2,864 2005
(estimations)
124 Nicaragua 2,778 2006
125 Brunei 2,735 2005
126 Angola 2,585 2005
127 Nepal 2,511 2006
128 Mauritius 2,350 2006
129 Senegal 2,159 2006
130 Malta 2,106 2005
131 Bhutan 2,000 2005
132 Uganda 1,983 2005
133 Bahamas 1,894 2005
134 Tanzania 1,880 2005
135 Guam 1,793 2005
136 Laos 1,715 2005
137 Namibia 1,688 2005
138 Macau 1,670 2006
139 Suriname 1,530 2005
140 Gabon 1,520 2005
141 New Caledonia 1,508 2005
142 Malawi 1,397 2005
143 Netherlands Antilles 1,175 2005
144 Fiji 1,046 2005
145 Madagascar 1,046 2005
146 U.S. Virgin Islands 996 2005
147 Barbados 953 2005
148 Botswana 912 2005
149 Guinea 840 2006
150 Guyana 807 2005
151 Mali 804 2006
152 Aruba 770 2005
153 Afghanistan 754 2005
154 Bermuda 618 2005
155 Haiti 535 2005
156 Burkina Faso 516 2005
157 French Polynesia 462 2005
158 Swaziland 460 2007
159 Cayman Islands 400 2005
160 Congo, Republic of the 400
2007[3]
161 Lesotho 350 2005
162 Liberia 319 2005
163 Djibouti 306 2006
164 Saint Lucia 304 2005
165 Greenland 300 2005
166 Faroe Islands 290 2005
167 Somalia 270 2005
168 Eritrea 252 2006
169 Mauritania 248 2005
170 Sierra Leone 245 2005
171 Niger 234 2005
172 Belize 200 2007 (estimations)
173 Micronesia, Federated States of
192 2002
174 American Samoa 180 2005
175 Togo 176 2005
176 Maldives 169 2005
177 Grenada 150 2005
178 Gambia, The 145 2005
179 Gibraltar 141 2005
180 Burundi 137 2005
181 Cambodia 134 2005
182 Saint Kitts and Nevis 125 2005
183 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
115 2005
184 Samoa 111 2009[5]
185 Central African Republic 109 2005
186 Antigua and Barbuda 105 2005
187 Benin 105 2005
188 Chad 95 2005
189 Rwanda 95 2005
190 Western Sahara 85 2005
191 Dominica 80 2005
192 Solomon Islands 60 2005
193 Guinea-Bissau 60 2005
194 Tonga 54 2006
195 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 50 2005
196 Cape Verde 45 2005
197 British Virgin Islands 45 2005
198 Vanuatu 41 2005
199 Cook Islands 30 2005
200 Nauru 30 2005
201 Equatorial Guinea 28 2005
202 Comoros 20 2005
203 Montserrat 20 2005
204 Sao Tome and Principe 18 2005
205 Falkland Islands 16 2005
206 Turks and Caicos Islands 12 2005
207 Kiribati 9 2005
208 Saint Helena 8 2005
209 Niue 3 2005
210 Gaza Strip 0.14 2005
References
^ CIA - The World Factbook - Rank
Order - Electricity - production

That's true, but as stated I think SA will become the 2nd or 3rd biggest power producer after the construction of the world biggest solar powerstation in karoo, near Upington.

zetdee: Electricity production is the best barometer of how industrialized a country is. South Africa is rank no15, after 2017 when Madupi and Kusile goes online, it will be in the top 10, that will still not be enough to meet demand.

Rank Country/Region Electricity
production
(GWh)[1] Date of
information
N/A World Total 21,325,115 2010[2]
1 United States 4,325,900 2010[2]
2 China 4,206,500 2010[2]
N/A European Union 3,332,111
2010[2]
3 Japan 1,145,300 2010[2]
4 Russia 1,036,800 2010[2]
5 India 922,200 2010[2]
6 Canada 629,900 2010[2]
7 Germany 621,000 2010[2]
8 France 573,200 2010[2]
9 Korea, South 497,200 2010[2]
10 Brazil 484,800 2010[2]
11 United Kingdom 381,200 2010[2]
12 Spain 300,400 2010[2]
13 Italy 298,200 2010[2]
14 Mexico 270,000 2010[2]
15 South Africa 268,100 2010[2](Note
SA after Medupi powerstation in 2014
will be in the top 5 in the world)
16 Taiwan 247,000 2010[2]
17 Australia 245,300 2010[2]
18 Turkey 239,100 2012
19 Iran 226,100 2010[2]
20 Saudi Arabia 214,000 2010[2]
21 Ukraine 187,900 2010[2]
22 Indonesia 166,400 2010[2]
23 Poland 157,400 2010[2]
24 Thailand 156,400 2010[2]
25 Sweden 155,400 2010[2]
26 Egypt 143,500 2010[2]
27 Argentina 128,500 2010[2]
28 Norway 124,500 2010[2]
29 Venezuela 116,700 2010[2]
30 Malaysia 116,200 2010[2]
31 Netherlands 114,800 2010[2]
32 Vietnam 100,170 2010[2]
33 Pakistan 93,350 2012[2]
34 United Arab Emirates 88,600
2010[2]
35 Czech Republic 85,900 2010[2]
36 Belgium 84,197 2009[3]
37 Kazakhstan 82,700 2010[2]
38 Finland 80,400 2010[2]
39 Switzerland 71,200 2010[2]
40 Austria 70,800 2010[2]
41 Philippines 67,700 2010[2]
42 Chile 60,200 2010[2]
43 Romania 59,800 2010[2]
44 Israel 58,300 2010[2]
45 Colombia 56,900 2010[2]
46 Portugal 55,800 2010[2]
47 Paraguay 54,912 2008[3]
48 Kuwait 54,600 2010[2]
49 Greece 53,200 2010[2]
50 Uzbekistan 52,300 2010[2]
51 Bulgaria 46,000 2010[2]
52 Singapore 45,400 2010[2]
53 Algeria 45,200 2010[2]
54 New Zealand 43,400 2010[2]
55 Bangladesh 39,100 2010[2]
56 Denmark 38,600 2010[2]
57 Hong Kong 38,300 2010[2]
58 Syria 38,705 2008[3]
59 Hungary 37,400 2010[2]
60 Peru 34,800 2010[2]
61 Serbia 34,711 2008[3]
62 Iraq 34,600 2008[3]
63 Belarus 34,500 2010[2]
64 Ireland 28,300 2010[2]
65 Slovakia 27,400 2010[2]
66 Libya 26,947 2008[3]
67 Qatar 23,700 2010[2]
68 Korea, North 22,517 2008[3]
69 Puerto Rico 20,921 2008[3]
70 Nigeria 20,130 2008[3]
71 Ecuador 19,500 2010[2]
72 Morocco 19,493 2008[3]
73 Azerbaijan 18,700 2010[2]
74 Turkmenistan 17,400 2010[2]
75 Cuba 16,990 2008[3]
76 Iceland 16,484 2009[3]
77 Tajikistan 15,971 2008[3]
78 Slovenia 15,634 2009[3]
79 Oman 15,085 2009[4]
80 Mozambique 14,975 2008[3]
81 Dominican Republic 14,577
2008[3]
82 Tunisia 14,395 2008[3]
83 Jordan 13,010 2008[3]
84 Bosnia and Herzegovina 12,692
2008[3]
85 Kyrgyzstan 11,702 2008[3]
86 Croatia 11,658 2008[3]
87 Bahrain 11,217 2008[3]
88 Estonia 9,984 2008[3]
89 Zambia 9,752 2007[3]
90 Sri Lanka 9,507 2007[3]
91 Uruguay 9,265 2007[3]
92 Trinidad and Tobago 9,100 2010[2]
93 Lebanon 9,030 2007[3]
94 Zimbabwe 8,890 2007[3]
95 Costa Rica 8,808 2007[3]
96 Guatemala 8,425 2007[3]
97 Congo, Democratic Republic of the
8,220 2007[3]
98 Georgia 7,970 2008[4]
99 Jamaica 7,324 2007[3]
100 Ghana 6,746 2007[3]
101 Sudan 6,509[3] 2009
102 Burma 6,286 2007[3]
103 Macedonia 6,051 2007
104 Armenia 5,941 2006
105 Lithuania 5,700 2010[2]
106 Panama 5,661 2005
107 Kenya 5,502 2005
108 Albania 5,385 2005
109 Honduras 5,339 2005
110 El Salvador 5,316 2006
111 Côte d'Ivoire 5,305 2005
112 Bolivia 5,293 2006
113 Latvia 4,778 2005
114 Cyprus 4,618 2006
115 Yemen 4,456 2005 (estimations)
116 Cameroon 4,090 2005
117 Kosovo 3,996 2006
118 Moldova 3,881 2005
119 Papua New Guinea 3,698 2005
120 Mongolia 3,430 2006
121 Luxembourg 3,156 2005
(estimations)
122 Ethiopia 2,864 2005
123 Montenegro 2,864 2005
(estimations)
124 Nicaragua 2,778 2006
125 Brunei 2,735 2005
126 Angola 2,585 2005
127 Nepal 2,511 2006
128 Mauritius 2,350 2006
129 Senegal 2,159 2006
130 Malta 2,106 2005
131 Bhutan 2,000 2005
132 Uganda 1,983 2005
133 Bahamas 1,894 2005
134 Tanzania 1,880 2005
135 Guam 1,793 2005
136 Laos 1,715 2005
137 Namibia 1,688 2005
138 Macau 1,670 2006
139 Suriname 1,530 2005
140 Gabon 1,520 2005
141 New Caledonia 1,508 2005
142 Malawi 1,397 2005
143 Netherlands Antilles 1,175 2005
144 Fiji 1,046 2005
145 Madagascar 1,046 2005
146 U.S. Virgin Islands 996 2005
147 Barbados 953 2005
148 Botswana 912 2005
149 Guinea 840 2006
150 Guyana 807 2005
151 Mali 804 2006
152 Aruba 770 2005
153 Afghanistan 754 2005
154 Bermuda 618 2005
155 Haiti 535 2005
156 Burkina Faso 516 2005
157 French Polynesia 462 2005
158 Swaziland 460 2007
159 Cayman Islands 400 2005
160 Congo, Republic of the 400
2007[3]
161 Lesotho 350 2005
162 Liberia 319 2005
163 Djibouti 306 2006
164 Saint Lucia 304 2005
165 Greenland 300 2005
166 Faroe Islands 290 2005
167 Somalia 270 2005
168 Eritrea 252 2006
169 Mauritania 248 2005
170 Sierra Leone 245 2005
171 Niger 234 2005
172 Belize 200 2007 (estimations)
173 Micronesia, Federated States of
192 2002
174 American Samoa 180 2005
175 Togo 176 2005
176 Maldives 169 2005
177 Grenada 150 2005
178 Gambia, The 145 2005
179 Gibraltar 141 2005
180 Burundi 137 2005
181 Cambodia 134 2005
182 Saint Kitts and Nevis 125 2005
183 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
115 2005
184 Samoa 111 2009[5]
185 Central African Republic 109 2005
186 Antigua and Barbuda 105 2005
187 Benin 105 2005
188 Chad 95 2005
189 Rwanda 95 2005
190 Western Sahara 85 2005
191 Dominica 80 2005
192 Solomon Islands 60 2005
193 Guinea-Bissau 60 2005
194 Tonga 54 2006
195 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 50 2005
196 Cape Verde 45 2005
197 British Virgin Islands 45 2005
198 Vanuatu 41 2005
199 Cook Islands 30 2005
200 Nauru 30 2005
201 Equatorial Guinea 28 2005
202 Comoros 20 2005
203 Montserrat 20 2005
204 Sao Tome and Principe 18 2005
205 Falkland Islands 16 2005
206 Turks and Caicos Islands 12 2005
207 Kiribati 9 2005
208 Saint Helena 8 2005
209 Niue 3 2005
210 Gaza Strip 0.14 2005
References
^ CIA - The World Factbook - Rank
Order - Electricity - production

That's true, but as stated I think SA will become the 2nd or 3rd biggest power producer after the construction of the world biggest solar powerstation in karoo, near Upington.

sheyie2007: Convince me

The only temporary problem they will be experiencing for this winter is power shedding. It is due to excessive use and abuse of power by end-users and so the problem will be solved soon after Medupe powerstation become fully functional.

Do you know that SA and Turkey were the latest countries to be officially declared developed countries by CIA in 2010. I am struggling to find you that link, but I will post it soon.

sheyie2007: Just curious, from what I learnt, it seems eskom still has challenges with power distribution, somewhat, correct me if I'm wrong ??

That statement above is untrue sir.

The countries mentioned below on the weblink are the top-20 most industrialised countries in the world and of which SA is one of them.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G20_industrial_nations

Pedagogue: This thread is really ridiculous!!!

@ Op, my first question - is SA an industrialised country? Pls do conduct a search on the list of industrialised nations in the world and see if SA is anywhere near!!!


If what the Op is talking about is -having more SA companies in Nigeria, that is not bad...!Afterall, that is the whole essence of d African Union (AU).

But for him to use the word,'HELP' ,it's either the Op is drunk or trying to taunt Nigerians!!!


Nevertheless, I'm not in anyway sayin that d situation in d country is good at the moment...but the truth is,d last thing Nigeria needs is HELP from a fellow developing country that also needs help!!!

Take it or leave it, Nigeria is a sleeping giant ...d country can only ARISE if we solve our self inflicted problems internally!!!


* I take exception to d Op's description of SA as one developed country that should help a developing country...SA and Nigeria are both developing countries! If anything, they can only render HELP reciprocally

I hope the weblink below will help you find out if South Africa is an industrialised country or not.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country

My knowledge tells me that SA was declared industrialised country in the early 1960's. Thank you

It is not good that we should always go about praising imperialist as if Africa is doomed. Those imperialist left us ages ago to look after ourselves, but I worry when Africans run after them in search for better life. We kicked them out because we needed some sense of independence, but how does it help when we go to their countries only to become slaves again?

all4naija: Let us face what is being discussed and stop going about irrelevancy. Western European nations are developed and advanced than SA. That is fact!

Your military in that contract is going to buy more than supply. Jeez!

Development of any country has nothing to do with the little that the country is trying to bring on the table. Rich or poor, look at what Nigeria has done. Big ups Nigeria again for your achievements on your UAVs. The time has come that Africa should learn to feed herself.

all4naija: Lol... Keep posting fake link that has no authority in what you are talking about. What a worthless news. It is just a news as such.

Google is always your teacher, why can't you google it and argue later. Surely I can never manipulate google.

all4naija: Why would you go about my comments in the other way round? You keep stating things which are not what I said. Jeez! This is a proof of the kind of military personnels SA is building. It is the same thing that will fail your military in the warfare. It is not 'bout displaying of polished military weapons, my friend.

Colonisation has corrupted Africans, military hardwares are only the best when they come from Europe. Jezz! When will Africans ever grow up?

all4naija: That is a fallacy all rather some dream. That link is questionable. It looks like a page put up by dishonest individual.

It is either you are deliberately denying this or have a serious mental condition. Your jealousy levels are very high my friend.

all4naija: And, so? What is new about that? All superpowers do that. Your country technology is still on a low end compared to the Chinese. There is nothing worth talking about here than trying to make your country looks thought as too advanced.

Eish!!! It is indeed so difficult to discuss military staff with a complete civilian. If it meant nothing to China, then why would they copy our technology. You only copy what impresses you. You can never emulate someone who means nothing to you.

Augustine Again: ..



nigeria has similar hardware, we deployed land based robots in mali war, fully built in nigeria, all are nigerian made unmanned surface vehicles.

nigeria has locally designed, developed, built, and deployed in mali war, two different types or remote controlled weapons.

first nigerian air force built robots for bomb detonation/dispopsal
second nigerian army built land drones unmanned surface surveillance vehicles

the top african militaries are arming up seriously, nobody wants to a victim like congo DRC, a big football that smaller nations kick around.

weblikn sources :

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=93230:air-force-develops-bomb-detonating-robot-tracking-device-&Itemid=426

http://allafrica.com/stories/201304170090.html

http://article.wn.com/view/2013/04/17/Peacekeeping_Army_Deploys_Own_Unmanned_Surveillance_Vehicle_/#/related_news

@Agaugust

Thanks agaugust now your fellow countryman claims there's no such thing as robots. I have shown him that above but it seems to me he's ignoring my posts. Welldone to Nigeria, that's an achievement.

all4naija: This is bragging my friend! SA as a whole doesn't have single war robot. SA is not a nation recognized to be building robots. So remove that from the argument.

That statement alone has reduced you into a mumish of the century. Do you think that we do not have that capability, if students can do it then what about our expects, read here below;

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2013/02/01/robotics-fun-from-lego-promises-children-in-south-africa-a-better-life/

BAE_SD ROW_03

The self -defence Remotely Operated Weapon, or Row was developed by the South African arm of BAE Systems and can be quickly installed on any vehicle. (BAE Systems)

 

 

BAE Systems’ South African arm developed the Self Defence Remotely Operated Weapon (SD-ROW) optimised for 7.62 and 5.56 mm machine guns. Currently integrated are the M240, SS-77, MG3 and PKM in the larger calibre category and  the M249 and the Mini SS in the smaller one. Typical optronic suite includes a two field-of-view day camera and a laser rangefinder. Weighing 75 kg with weapon and 200 rounds of ammo, its elevation arc is –20°/+80° standard traverse being ±135°, full 360° rotation being available as option. Three M10 bolts are all is needed to fix the SD-ROW on a vehicle roof. It is ready for production.

 

FN deFNder Medium with FN M2 machine gun + FN_deFNder_Light_FN_MAG – Studio

The deFNder Medium (left) is offered by FN Herstal for up to 12.7 mm machine guns (here an FN M2). The deFNder Light (right) can accept 5.56 and 7.62 mm machine guns. With weapon and ammunition its weight remains under 100 kg. (FN Herstal)

 

 

FN Herstal’s has portfolio remained unchanged, with its three families, namely the deFNder Light, the deFNder Medium and the Arrows. The first is aimed at small 5.56 and 7.62 mm calibres, and weighs between 80 and 85 kg depending on the weapon. The deFNder Medium was developed as a light 12.7 mm solution tipping the scales at around 180 kg. The Arrows is also intended for 12.7 mm, although it could handle a MAG, with weight varying between 245 and 285 kg. Optionally a 40 mm automatic grenade launcher can also be installed. FN Herstal is developing a naval version of the deFNder Medium for anti-piracy missions. The Arrows has been installed on Belgian Army Dingo 2s and Piranha IIICs. It is also installed on the 110 command post versions of the VBCI under acquisition by the French Army (over 400 Arrows currently are in service, many of which downrange). In addition FN Herstal signed in the last year four major contracts with undisclosed countries for the direct delivery or local manufacturing of hundreds of Lights and Mediums.

 

A peculiar system is the Precision Remotes ultra-light system – around 34 kg – which can be easily installed or removed in five minutes with no tools as it fits on a standard 2.5-inch Nato ring mount.

Also available as a fully stabilised turret, it can be armed with 5.56 or 7.62 mm machine guns, respectively with 600 or 400 rounds. It can be equipped with day/night optics and is controlled via a game-boy type console. Overall consumption is 170 W, which allows it to be installed even on vehicles with low power supply. In case of failure it can be reverted to manual control within seconds.

Augustine Again: nigeria has similar hardware, we deployed land based robots in mali war, fully built in nigeria. the top african militaries are arming up seriously, nobody wants to a victim like congo DRC, a big football that smaller nations kick around.

We have the remote controlled machine guns.

This is what china has done to us with their devious contracts;

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2009/01/08/China-starts-buying-South-African-arms/UPI-74661231431561/