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Logicboy......hope it will be good if I complete the trinireligion in Nigeria? I got bible and can quote the crap, same with quran but I will like checking on Ifa...

Not having one now until I move away from this old man but having knowledge of it will be ok na?

PAGAN9JA where thou art? You don get task o

Uyi Iredia: @ FOLYKAZE: I laughed and said 'Logicboy would be officially mindblown after reading this.' That was my initial reaction while reading this. But seriously, I now see your atheism as Afro-centric in this regard, not that atheists in the West ain't superstitious_some are or were. Hmmn.

Im not here because of western atheist or because I want to group myself with some people. What exactly is it you called belief in superstition? The one you have not disproved?

Your last response is what I want you to apply to all ypur experiences. If NDE is, as you say, researched and explained by scientists, one would expect you to do the same for the experiences you stated and more you haven't told. Some things we know can explain (eg epilepsy) were attributed to spirits and considered paranormal but now adequately explained, so why won't you, at least, apply science-based skepticism or reasoning in your paranormal experiences ? I have done such to at least some of my experiences and sufficiently account for them.

Did I mention anything like spirit in my post or did I attribute anything in my post with spirit? Why are you putting words in my mouth? There are lot learn in life. You start somewhere and possibly wont know all. I love exploring things and also wish to have more knowledge about things. But this wont make me dispute things I dont have much knowledge about. I will better say I dont know how it happen than saying it is fake...... Again I repeat, if what I stated in my previous post are wrong, why cant you hit the nail on my head directly?

Now, I'll go deeper, do you believe in evolution ? I ask because your belief in the paranormal doesn't fall in line with advocates of it.

There is evidence for evolution. Isn't it? There are more fact in it than we can find in creation theory. So let me say here that I agree with the theory of evolution.

Logicboy03: Folykaze don fall my hand.......


Chei.....Uyi Iredia stop destroying my anti-supernatural ministry

Your hand don dey up all this while na, he go don dey pain you.........

The greatest miracle I experienced was when I joined CAC five years ago. I asked for the permission to be member of drama group and the group leader told me to fast for three days without eating any food or drinking water. This mean for complete 72hours and I will be in the church.

I accept this but to my greatest suprise, I ended up in the hospital the second day. I opened my eye around 9pm on the second day I started the fasting and saw myself on hospital bed.

Im not insulting the church or group leader for putting me through this but I thank them for helping me to know what starving to death really mean and also for them moving me straight to the hospital.......some useless pastors will not do that but pray those useless prayers and get me dead.

Thats my testimony..........somebody shout AMEN!

Where can I get ouija board?

This thing you wrote here is not trusted as complete stuff. Break things...preparations, processes, chanting (if needed) and what could happen at the process.

Can I ask for anything? Just anything

I love exploring

Corona99: hmm..ua a greedy n incompetent fellow...4rm waht u jst listed..hw many of em av u put in2 practise! If u dnt give hw else do u xpect 2 geht!

Im greedy? Did I ask for any money or told you I dont know when to give something to people in need?

Your question should be thrown to christian becaue im atheist......im if i am fit in this discussion, then your pastor, you and other foolish ingrates giving your hard earn money to some men should be blame for not practising what is laid or twisting it.

And you are so daft.......sorry for this.

#unfollow thread

Corona99: 4rm all indications it seems ua confused bout d tithe issue....

Im confused while you didn't show your counter bible verses? Na like this dem brainwash you reach because I shouldn't judge this is christian package of looting

How many you won bash? Catholic and?

Go and get pastorpreneur insight..........and the process of making money through people's ignorance. Billions in your pocket bro.....nothing is shame here if Oyedepo dash you mansion, limo, jet and some cash in your account.


Amen.

wordcat: Jesus?
Wept for who?

For himself. What do you think if I release countless of horsewhip on your back.....? You go dey laugh?

A-town:
Olodo. Did you miss the part where i stated i am ready to drop the 100K?

Right now, I agree you just an old silly man. Did I insult you in any of my post?

You agree to drop some money but has Ghostsparta accept this? Has he been proving wrong or right? Then why your ranting because of a video?

You need to grow up man. If you think you can rant your stupidity because you wanna drop something which you have not dropped and yet not with outcome you dropping this for, so why the quick idiotic manner you showing off?

#Nitwit

Double post

Uyi Iredia: ^^^Sure secrets are useful in business but some need to be shared. The cure of ailments using anti-biotics thankfully wasn't kept secret. In any case, I am QUITE surprised you insist your position should be disproved without you bringing evidence. That's what you appear to state.

Why would you believe in the paranormal and disbelieve supernatural events stated in sacred texts ?

In fact, I really want to know why you will apply skepticism as regards God and ignore it as regards the paranormal ? You can start out by stating the kind of paranormal stuff you believe in near-death experiences perhaps ?

This is a small hint I will like to give you here. When I was in secondary school, it happens one day that my Yoruba spoke about Aje(witch) and he claimed the only way to make people confess is if you force a witch to eat a treeback called epo obo. I went home, ponder if I have a witch and didn't know about this. So I went to the local herbs store and bought epo obo worth of N20. I went into my room and ate this time...several seconds later, I vomit the guts in me. It got to a stage, there is nothing to vomit anymore...i only shock and sometime like someone is draging my intestine with me. My parent asked what I have eaten and I told them. So my dad made preparation for red oil which I used and the whole thing stopped. He later asked me reason why I took that thing and I replied I wanted to test what my teacher taught me in school. He didn't say anything but laugh.

I didn't ask my teacher the evidence and whats behind it. I didn't ask him to explain the process of doing this thing, he only gave me a tip and I end up... This didn't end here, when I get to SSS 3 in yoruba class again, we were told to buy a text title 'odu ifa merindinlogun and asa ati orisha' for the preparation for WAEC exam. I got mine and read through it even before my teacher explain anything from it. The book contain some process of making Ifa divination, incantations(odu) and some interpretations. I consulted one of my friend which his dad is an Ifa priest. He agreed to sneak me inside when his dad is out. On that faithful day, his dad went to the bush for some leaves, we sneaked in with my book right in my hand. He seat in the very place this man sits, brought out my book and the guy brought out his dad Opele from a white wrapped cloth. I read my odu and incantation from the book with me, and follow due process as stated in the book..... You know what my result was? I didn't see anything, it look like BS and find my way out. When this man came from farm, he knows everything that happen.....he accursed his son..my friend for allowing me to sneak in, and said the book cant explain everything in life. He said it is hidden, he knows right in the farm we came there and our plight to know this but we need to go slowly and watch things. He said I can only know Ifa if he reveal those secret to me personally. Let me end the story here...............

It is a known fact that herbs is known but you should know today that not all herbs are know. Some ailment treatments involve sacrifices, inscissors, incantations and some secret procedures...this is not cashew and mango leaves or treeback logicboy is ranting here.

You getting me wrong totally when you said you should disprove my claim without me bringing any evidence. What evidence do you want for bullet proof juju? You want me to go and get gun without license or because of you, shoot my target and post the video here so that you will say it edited or bring another video depicting gun shot spot using it as your disproving tool? Nah. Im not playing my game in such way, im not forcing you to seek out for it. Im only telling you to come with your gun, target to hit and the preparation for the bullet proof juju will be done by me. It is your job to shoot not me shooting. Nobody here picked the challenge except mazaje. If you are determined for evidence, hit ghostsparta here https://www.nairaland.com/1394890/real-hero-here Or pick one with me, thats not too hard to do. That for that...nail it.

Reading the bible and quran is enough to make you doubt the existence of God. These are public and something everybody knows. I was forced to believe it from birth and when I grow up, I realised some lies like the easter crap where pastor will tell you jesus resurrect and you will see him and hide behind jesus is standing in the middle of the sun. I disprove this the day I got eye shade and when it easter, I didn't see any jesus. Give creates room for question. But when I said something is esoteric, you cant make me question what I dont know. You cant ask me reason why cultist beat new members because that is the secrets to only member.

Near Death Experience is researched by scientist and it explained. It is the brain in action according to reports I read. So why will you want me to believe it?

Dear Uyi, Magun, Ayeta Atagba and other local stuff I know exist because I saw it

Uyi Iredia: ^^^What's the evidence for the paranormal ?

Like Obadiah will always say....he received esoteric knowledge from the Most High.....could be after smoking his weeds.

This is not snacks and juice you see in stores. Even though we have coca-cola today, they still have secrets among the staffs in the organisation. You cant ask any staff member to explain how their products are made....evidence what makes coca-cola not faked like Gulda or Star beer. You can only know and realise this when you drink coke and sees it different from pepsi. Secrecy is part of business survival and it part of life.

Ghostsparta challenged any doubters to disprove him. Non of you here do. I raised a challenge, it was only mazaje that stand on this. It is either you wait till he disprove it or you hold to your disbelief. Expecting me to show you something when you behind the internet not the stuff needed. Look out for those that have this or wait till mazaje proof or disprove it. It doesn't reduce anything in you man. Cheers

larryburton: Are you sure?
Watch your word to avoid transgression.
I am a Muslim, just dislike people that lying to prove their point.

I counter that guy with bible verse. Im an atheist, love and respect others belief but not others strategy of exploiting.

damosky12: The law is different from the principle. Friend, God said "bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse,......if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to recieve it." . My brothers in the faith, Malachi 3:10 isnt written by a Man. God did. Whether you deny it or not. It is God's principle of expanding you. Learn from Abraham (Hebrews 7:2). The issue is "can you trust God to His word?"

You are doing a good job bro. The more you say this, the more some people start disbelieving in christianity when they see it as scam or the more people call you a thief venturing into pastorpreneur.

Bring all tithes (tenth of farm produce) into storehouse is not the same as pay your money and hard earned income into church account or sowing seed with money. Church isn't investment bank where you seek for double double profit and blessing. You and your pastors like are thieves.

You will find God the very day you believe there is no other God in your world that yourself. Ye are a God

mosho2good: Iyanya and ayefele dat a very combination.

Click d like button if u agree wit me guys.

Are you paid for the number of likes for your account? Joblessness and ASUU caused this. Get involve in something reasonable kid

Things like this should be keep away from children. Arrest the child parent

moscobabs: Stingy Nija people..must they beg before u know u suppose give person wey open gate,protect u and ur property? or are they not beta than those black sheep that always extort money with force from you??

Are they forcing you to give them money? If you cant then just walk away

When will topics like s.ex position/styles, benefit of An.al s.ex, how to start group s.ex, starting p.orn company, pu.s.sy racism, benefit of masturbation and machine-s.ex makes front page? So so useless topic with days.

And what the fvck is the OP username? omi-obo Is this baby mad? Need to get his parent address.....their son is going mad

Richbee: That's quite a tale. Tot only God had those powers. Aii

Trash that your God crap.......this things are real and are esoteric knowledge. Only those that know it can do it just the way you and your igbo pirators cant make fake coca-cola just like we have fake and copied cd out there today.

It is not a tale.....call it natural wonders known to some set of people. This is not oxygen and hydrogen which everybody know

Seun needs to answer some questions.

Why are the mod moving snake related topic to fb everytime?

Could this OP doing this relate with Igbo people?

Like most nigerian will ask, hope no be say you dey use this thing draw money?

Do you keep snakes too which amaze you all the time.

Has snake biting you once?

riodray: First na OPON IMON abi na OPON IFA now na FRENCH VILLAGE.'what a confuse man'.

You are a clown. Whats wrong with Opon Imon? I remember the people in china dont use english when developing app used at home and they have softwares for iching. What is wrong with having Ifa app?

pastorpreneur strategy of making more customer, patronizers and account booming hohohohoho

bolaino: lol, u know the funny thing about the new atheist movement, which logicboy is a proud member, they've turned out to become the very thing they started out fighting. They've become dogmatic, and they've closed their minds to any possibility of the supernatural existing. Logicboy won't agree but he has become dogmatic, any information he sees that doesn't conform to the walls of modern day science, he considers it absurd.

That for logicboy. Im an atheist but believe in paranormal too. Though I dont call it supernatural because everything in nature is super.....just like calling it natural wonders. Believing in this stuff doesn't change my atheist stance that God doesn't exist.

Satan is the God of this world.......in the future time, muslim will rule in vatican city.

damosky12: This explains the reason why some Christians are'nt as rich as they ought to. It explains why some arnt even rich at all. PAYING YOUR TITHES AND OFFERING IS A PRINCIPLE TO RECIEVING SUPERNATURAL ABUNDANCE.

God said: "Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse that there may be meat in mine house and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to recieve it.
And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground: neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts" - Malachi 3:10-11. Whao! God said all these, not a man's idea. It isnt like a man's idea of making money. God said it. Bishop Oyedepo isnt the one who put it there, GOD DID. Pastor Chris isnt the one who put it there, GOD DID. Whao! God said "try me, if I will not open the windows of heaven to bless you that there will be no room to contain it. Not just that, He says: after blessing you, He will rebuke devourers for your sake. Whao!!! That is the secret behind "the Kingdom wealth".
Now listen, whether you believe it or not, it doesnt change a thing. Whether you pay tithe or not doesnt affect God's servants. They will still live in stupendous plenty.
Offering and thiting isnt an old testament law, it is God's principle of expanding they that apply it.
"He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much..." - Luke 16:10

The principle to recieving plenty is to be faithful in the little wages, salary, income you earn. Notice, He didnt say "generous". He said "Faithful". That means, You arnt doing God a favour, You are giving Him what is His. Giving Him what is His is what gives you what is yours in Christ

It is either you are a thief or trying to venture into pastorpreneur. Did what you quote indicates money at all?

This is from the bible:

Deuteronomy 14
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.
23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.
24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),
25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.
26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.
27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns,
29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.


From the above verse, tithe is to be paid yearly or every three years adding up all the previous years. This contradict fraudulent claims of monthly paying you and your pasthieves are spreading.

Tithe is farm produce and not money

Tithe can be convert to silver/money when you at distance place but you will use it to buy whatever pleases your heart.....meaning those farm produce you cant travel with but you can still buy farm produce when you get to the house of God. This contradict your holy-scam of opening account with the bank and sowing seed with money? Is church investment company?

Nothing like double double blessing in that verse, you pay tithe and praise the lord for giving it to you. Not the other way round, pay and be bless........you are a thief.

Paying tithe is jollyment..........your version is exploitation and ripping people's pocket dry.


YOU HAVE TURNED THE HOUSE OF GOD INTO HOUSE OF ROBBERS.

damosky12 and his team pastorpreneur are THIEVES

A-town:
Thank you very much for that video. People who were at that "illusion" would go all over town screaming about how much juju was in practice that day. If you watch that video and tell me that is juju then you are among the GULLIBLE.
Like i said before, scare tactics have been practiced for a long time in Africa and Nigeria as a whole.
The guy trying to cut his arm in the second part obviously has a blade/cutlass that has an "arch" curved into it. That is why it appears to have pearced his arm. If this was real, he would have pulled out the blade for all to see before cutting his arm.

Do i need to explain the trick behind the guy with the blade in his neck? Come on. This is as fake as it gets and thats what the bulk fo the so-called african juju masters do. Illusions. It aint real.

He has already challenged you. Pick it up and disprove him. How is that hard to do?

Indeed, christianity is founded on lies

sureteeboy: Hmm... The Hunter's excuse looks fishy. He didn't know his friend was there in the bush, hunting as well? A bad blood must have existed.

Dont be quick to judge. Some hunter wear animal coat with fur and wool, some also include horn and masks that look like animals to make them unspotted and have a close range shot.... That maybe what confused the hunter that shot his friend thinking he is animal. He can only know this when the target his hit....voice, yelling!!

How is that our problem? I see gays and lesbians as human like me so telling us who he is isn't relevant here.

Hermaphrodites will either be bis.exual, gay or lesbian....so nothing new