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bataderemi:
Or maybe what you have been saying just shows that the bible is out of touch with modern realities?

It is still intact and perfect. There is nothing new that has not been made known in the Bible.

safarigirl:
thank you for telling him this.

The same Bible will justify slavery too, but does that make it right?

This is 2019, and dare I say, some of the Bible's positions on critical issues do not hold water today, besides, if you check further, you will realise that most of these quotations do not exist in the new testament, which ought to guide Christians.

Enough with this interpretation of the bible to justify inhumane acts

Where did you see me justify a rapist?

Besides, if you don't know how to interpret Bible to practice your spiritual life then the old testament will become useless to you.

You need to meet the right teacher to teach you how to live spiritual life.

chrisooblog:
it's the same Bible that says he who is without sin cast the first stone

I can be quoting the Bible back and forth with you to justify various points. Rape is a very serious issue and we should not trivialize it using personal interpretations of bible passages

What has that quotation got to do with standard of rape in the Bible?

You are simply quoting out of contest.

In regards to rape, the Bible categorically emphasized and interpretated the acceptable norms for rape charges. It is either you voice out and save your life or conceal and die.

How is that a personal interpretation? Except you want to add and subtract from the same Bible.

Or do you want to deny such rape case didn't exist in the Bible?

As a Christian, this is what all Christian must teach and practice.

rabzy:
In an ideal situation yes, but rape is so traumatic, you may never think straight again. Look at how weird Stockholm syndrome. Look at the amount of ridicule the oau girl got when she outed the prof, some peoples constitution are not strong enough to take it. Some have even committed suicide instead of facing some shame

I think God who wrote that word knows rape is traumatic. It still remains the best way for me to determine btw rape and consent.

Sportilitica:
I would normally want to focus on football as the forum is where we get updates however I would like to clear a WRONG NOTION THAT A WOMAN IS AT FAULT FOR BEING RAPED BECAUSE SHE WORE SKIMPY CLOTHES. THAT IS A VERY WRONG POINT OF VIEW AND MUST NEVER BE ENCOURAGED NO MATTER THE SITUATION. IF YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF MINDSET THEN I SUGGEST YOU PRAY AGAINST IT AND EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT IT. FOR THOSE SAYING THEY PROBABLY ENJOYED IT AND THAT IS WHY THEY DID NOT SEAPK UP, THEN YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PART OF RAPE. WE HAVE MOTHERS, SISTERS AND PROBABLY CHILDREN. DO NOT TEACH THEM THE WRONG IDEA THAT ANYONE ELSE IS TO BE BLAMED EXCEPT THE RAPIST. A RAPIST MUST BE CONDEMNED AT ALL COSTS.

I agree that rapist must be condemned but how can such be condemned if the victim is mute?

rabzy:
Those with historical cases of rape still has to prove it just like new rapes. It is highly exposed individuals such as politicians that just an accusation might hurt

I just believe as Bible stipulated that rape cases should be reported immediately. It's evil for one to conceal rape and then allow rapist to continue to do damages in the society.

chrisooblog:
guy it's not as simple and straight forward as you are trying to paint it. the r kelly, bill cosby and harvey weinstein cases shows your point holds no water.

saying "why did the victim not voice out therefore she/he enjoyed it" is wrong because rape apart from being a physical violation is psychologically scarring for the victims as well. some voice out immediately some bottle things up.

now i'm not disputing some people will deliberately lie to tarnish someone's reputation and that is why we have the judicial system that guarantees innocence until proven guilty. it is this right of defence that neymar and CR7 are currently enjoying

According to the biblical principles, those women are guilty and they would have been stoned to death.

I don't support a rapist allowed to move around after just one incident. They should be reported and dealth with immediately.

DrLikita12:
Not every victim is able to report immediately. It would be ideal if they could but people have legitimate reasons for not doing so. Some people are afraid of the rapist, some are in a position where the rapist has control over them, some of them are afraid for their reputations, and some of them are afraid of comments like this that tell them that because they kept quiet they must have enjoyed it.

In the case they refuse to report to the authority, it becomes consent. Every victim of rape are protected by law in a sane society.

There should be no excuses whatsoever.

safarigirl:
this makes no sense

Forget the female victims for a moment, do you know how many men weee victims of rape and sexual abuse as children? Do you know how many boys that have been defiled by one aunty, housemaid, sister, or even an uncle?

How many of these men voice out their experiences? Do you think they enjoyed being molested and touched inappropriately as little boys just because they said nothing? Do you know how many damaged men we have, walking around and looking fine, but are psychologically traumatised and don't even know it?

The first misconception people have of rape, is that only women can be victims, and this is erroneous. Men are suffering inside, they are being eaten up slowly by the trauma someone they trusted, foisted upon them when they were too little to decipher wrong from right. Do you now say, that these men enjoyed the time spent with their molesters? Did the little boys that were molested by Catholic Priests in Ireland, enjoy it? Is that why it took so long for these atrocities to come to light?


This analogy is wrong and holds no water in today's society

Men can also voice out. It's not restricted to only a female victim.

But If a man is raped and he doesn't report the case, he enjoyed it.

I am not talking about little boys here but about some women who later come out and claim they were raped after the incident had happened several years back even when they were conscious and matured enough as at the time the incident happened.

Neymar case and several other cases comes to mind and serves as a pointer to false rape allegations.

Woman are now using this rape issue as an avenue to blackmail and defraud their innocent victims. This is my point.

In case you are not aware, I quoted a Bible verse but if you say God no get sense, na you sabi.

However, a Jewish boy or girl must be taught about this law from early childhood and they are aware of it. Even till date, the Jewish still practice this same law.

Now, I am very much aware of boys as a victim of rape but how you want to define rape in this case? Give instances.

rabzy:
This is wrong, you might be raped and not know it until years later, maybe a video came out and you saw it, you might be raped and so afraid of your accuser and kept quiet, you might be raped and you kept silent forever but it does not mean you enjoyed the rape. In fact, a rape is a rape, whether you enjoyed it is inconsequential, if you force-feed me with sugar, sugar will always taste sweet but that does not mean it was not wrong or tat I wanted it

Fine! If there is a video evidence, no problem.

But how can you be raped and not know instantly or after few months?

Even if you are drugged, you will know due to some changes in you but if not then there is no case.

Howevee, there should be no excuse whatsoever for not reporting a rapist because if you fail to do so when you are conscious of the act then it becomes consent in law due to the principle of Volenti non fit iniuria which shall be invoked by a defendant.

This is the reality and the principles of law. People should exploit it so it will enable justice instead of blackmail.

rabzy:
It is assumed that even when a woman in the field screams and shout, she can't be heard and so no rescuer or evidence that she was complicit in action, but a woman in the city when she screams, she can be heard and that would serve as evidence that she didn't consent... But that is bible times, you can be raped in the cities now while everyone goes their way and our house now, you can scream and no one comes to your rescue or even deny hearing, or blame you for just being there.

Exactly! Even till date, if you are raped today and you refuse to report the rapist immediately (as soon as the act was done) then you enjoyed it. You ought to go jail for blackmail.

But unfortunately, you see people allege they were raped 5 years ago or 10 years ago. That's what I don't understand.

If you never enjoyed the 'rape' you suppose voice out immediately even after the incident.

I think people should be educated about this because some just keep quiet due to ignorance.

Can someone explain why

I. A woman raped in the field should not be killed alongside the rapist?

I I. But A woman raped in the city should be killed alongside the rapist?

......according to the Bible?

If you know, you can distinguish between rape and blackmail.

andrew444:
Lol ,league 2

No I said it should be the best 2nd division in Europe

Okay.

andrew444:
Omeruo play small sha

That championship take style hard make I no lie ,to get promotion come Epl there na wahala ,the games are 2 much and no resting

Championship should be the best 2nd division in Europe

Yes! The league is very difficult. If you enter you fit land for League 2 if you are not careful.

Which is the best?

andrew444:
The guy dey type like typewriter

The way e quote me long immediately I fear

Hehehe! Words for words.

naturecures:
Everyone should drop this Ajayi and Nacho argument/protest, apparently the two were dropped because in African tournament if you must shine a player must have the capacity to bully, outplay strong and aggressive on the ball, Now Mr Rohr simply know they (Nacho, Ajayi) cannot bring that to play.
Take a look at their various departments who can they withstand head to head with these qualities stated? Please both player are not outcasts, of course they have a brighter future with Eagles

You be machine?

naturecures:
Everyone should drop this Ajayi and Nacho argument/protest, apparently the two were dropped because in African tournament if you must shine a player must have the capacity to bully, outplay strong and aggressive on the ball, Now Mr Rohr simply know they (Nacho, Ajayi) cannot bring that to play.
Take a look at their various departments who can they withstand head to head with these qualities stated? Please both player are not outcasts, of course they have a brighter future with Eagles

Ajayi played in the championship were you can't play without having those attributes you listed. Omeruo could not play when he was there and I doubt if many of our players can play in that rugby League.

Hence, it has nothing to do with your assertion but purely Rohr's decision.

Icon7 how far?

Ororo don do am again.

darkelf:
UEFA arguments team of the year. Forgiveness and theGoodJoe leads the attack line

Hehehe!

andrew444:
Forgiveness and thegoodjoe I give una balon d or for arguement

Hehehe!

TheGoodJoe:
Their conquer came from the EPL, not Austria.

You have started speaking in unknown tongues to confuse yourself.

TheGoodJoe:
Scouting. Manchester city wer scouting iheanacho before the U17 World Cup.

So how come to you he was famous when a coach like Alan Pardew has not heard of him?

So, how did Manchester city got to know Iheanacho before U17 world cup?

TheGoodJoe:
Did not make City fight for Kayode to be part of the squad.

Finito.

It doesn't change the fact that Austrian league products came saw and conquered players including Iheanacho in the EPL. What an irony!

TheGoodJoe:
Iheanacho was not famous. Finito.

How did Manchester city got to know Iheanacho? Can you answer simple question?

TheGoodJoe:
I said Iheanacho gained fame during his time at Manchester City and Pardew has confirmed it.

Finito.

How did Manchester city got to know Iheanacho? Just give an honest answer

TheGoodJoe:
With his amount of games and time in Austria? Means City did not even bother applying for the permit. So he was not even good enough for the application of a work permit.

Finito.

Sadio Mane and Naby Keïta were not good enough for work permit as at the time they won Austrian league best player of the year. It didn't stop them from dominanting the EPL afterwards.

Iheanacho is living in the shadows of these former Austrian league products.

andrew444:
Did kayode deserved to be at the World Cup ?

Did that change the fact I wrote before? Discuss that before we jump to this.

ChrisKels:
Oh alryt.



BTW, when are u gonna show us the pictorial evidence I asked u to help us with?

I have done that before.

TheGoodJoe:
Obviously, Kayode went to the same Manchester City and could not smell bench. It was obvious the Austrian league goals was not a good yardstick to judge quality as most were raving on.

Kayode never played for Manchester City because of work permit. Simple thinking

TheGoodJoe:
Crystal Palace manager Alan Pardew admitted he knew next to nothing about Kelechi Iheanacho before the Manchester City youngster scored a late winner at Selhurst Park.

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Asked at a post-match media conference if he previously knew who Iheanacho was, Pardew said:
"No, if I'm honest. I had to look at his shirt and check who he was."

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/pardew-knew-nothing-about-iheanacho-prior-to-late-winner

When did Crystal palace become Manchester City?

Answer my question.

How did Manchester city got to know about Iheanacho?

M7even:
You want to start again. Go and take ur tablet, they are in the shelve.


PLS let no one go this part with this dude. This argument can consume an unnecessary three page without substance

In 2016/2017, Iheanacho scored only 7 goals in all competitions but Kayode scored 22 goals the same season and he was declared the highest goal scorer and the best player in Austrian league.

Obviously, Iheanacho wasn't the best striker in Europe or anywhere else.