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luvmijeje:
What's your definition of greatness? Let me define how I view greatness.

Greatness is a concept of a state of superiority affecting a person or object in a particular place or area. Greatness can also be attributed to individuals who possess a natural ability to be better than all others. (As defined by Wikipedia)

Greatness is feeling happy despite not knowing what caused it. Greatness is feeling hope despite dooms all around you.

If this is what greatness means to you. Then you are even relegating God to anything anyone want's it to be. A lot of people feel this way without subscribing to God.

If you hadn't feel that, it doesn't mean others have not felt it.

I have felt that way, I don't subscribe to any nonexistent entity.

What's greatness to me can never be greatness to you. Knowing you, you will rubbish my definition of greatness because you are incapable of seeing from my perspective.

If you call God great and he is the creator of everyone... U cannot subject his greatness to ur feelings and perception. U got it wrong dear.

urahara:
Seriously , the points u made were very weak .

Do u think the greatest nation in the world ,America, is not religious .

Yes, they are not religious. Not half as religious as Nigeria

luvmijeje:
HopefulLandlord come and see fallacy of generalisation. Frank you are something else. Writer should be more open minded but you are proving it wrong. Writer should be capable of seeing events from other people's point of view but you are proving it wrong.

Just because it has not happen to you, doesn't mean it has not happen to others.

God, is supposedly the creator of everything... His greatness shouldn't be questioned, neither should it be selective. It should be felt by all, both believers and non believers. No one should in doubt of this greatness.
So since u have confirmed that it has not happened to me do u expect me to see him as great? More still isn't it normal that I doubt ur story since I and many other of his so-called creations have not felt his greatness?

Greatness that is selective, is that one great?

luvmijeje:
That's your opinion and it's an opinion I strong disagree with. Believing in something greater than you makes you feel sane. It enables you to rationalise a lot of things your senses can't process.

When I see some of you speak, I'm like you all are still living in a bubble. I'm like these guys love seeing themselves spewing bullshit.t

U are not even making any sense my dear lady. What makes God greater than u? He is just an idea in ur head and u say he is greater than u. God has never manifested himself in the modern world, all we have is people like u conjuring him in ur head and hearing things no one else can her, is that the meaning of greatness to u?

U are using a phone made by man, can travel a long distance in a plane made by man, can treat ur sickness with drugs made by man, yet u call God who lives in ur head, depends on u to spread his word or speak for him greater than u.

Take for instance, I don't believe in God and I don't feel his presence in anyway, how can such a being be great? What's great about a being who only manifests when u believe? God cannot even make toothpick and u call him great?

So much dependence on this nonexistent being is part of Nigeria's problem... U can see we have nothing to offer to the world at large despite worshiping this great being.... If God was great as u say, his greatness will manifest in Nigeria and there will be no excuse as to why we are backward.

urahara:
That's not the fault of the abrahamic religions

Its obvious u have nothing to say..perhaps we should declare the thread closed. I however hope u have learned something today.

luvmijeje:
I've read your reasons but in making your point you failed to realize that men are wired to believe in something.

For instance you. You believe in your fellow men..... The scientist. But science don't give hope. It doesn't give love. It doesn't give companionship the way religious does. You all failed to realize the need to believe in something is just as critical as the need to live.

Believing in something is not the problem. Believing in urself makes more sense than believing in a magical sky Daddy. Its both childish, distracting, hypocritic and delusional.

I don't believe in scientists... I don't even know how to believe in scientists. But I'd rather trust science to do the job. Heck, I wish I was one.

Believing in the wrong thing is what I perceive religion as. Believing in a God u have never seen to do unseen things for u is why I think religion is part of Nigeria's problem

luvmijeje:
I'm not religious and I don't believe religion is the problem of Nigeria. Religion has rather been a solution to poverty, hopelessness and loneliness.

It's why it's the biggest creation of man.

Religion is not Nigeria's problem but religion is part of Nigeria's problem

urahara:
Nigerians may believe that a god can solve their problems but after praying , they still go and hustle like mad.

Lol... What's hustle like mad? Nigerians think science is devilish and are waiting for Christ to come while we waiting on God to help us in everything we do.
Why do u think there is ritual killing, yahoo plus rumors, many churches etc rather than good scientists and industries. Why do u think a government will always ask people to pray over situation they should think out ways to resolve? Why will our president be sick and Nigerians will be praying for him instead of equipping their hospitals and ensuring the rift treatment. Why should someone steal money and blame it on snake?

If u think religion is not part of Nigeria's problem then u are part of Nigeria's problem.

When people give their tithe what do u think they are giving it for? What are they expecting? Do u know how this expectation can slightly affect their hustle? Even Christians who failed to pay their tithe will blame their failures on their inability to tithe, what does this tell u of a people?

As long as u depend on God ur hustle can never be full, u must reserve some strength since God is there by the corner to finish it up for u.

Well, this is me is why religion is part of Nigeria's problem... The bad news is that Nigeria has many problems.

OpenYourEyes1:
Have you done a research on this? Can I see it.

Sorry, I have no research work for u, but u can see my opinion above.

urahara:
How is religion Nigerias problem ?

How is religion one if the causes of Nigeria's problem u mean?

When people believe in an unseen being, they can believe in anything. It shows to a large extent how gullible they are. It also shows they are intellectually lazy.
They become victims of con men.
Further they wait on this God to come help them on things they can do. They rather pray than work.
While the bible encourages Christians to work as well as pray, but the fact is that both cannot go together. Because u believe God will help, ur hustle can NEVER be like someone who thinks he just as himself no matter what u tell urself.
U see people live hypocritic life pretending to see and communicate to what they have never seen and communicated to they blame unseen forces for their problems and accuse innocent people of masterminding their failures.
They live a life where they think they know what they don't know and it control their whole essence of living.
When they fail, they say its Gods will and when they win they say it is God, this is a strong case of a people who don't believe in themselves...

So do u think a group of people who live as I have described above will succeed better than people who depend on themselves for everything?

That's Nigerian for u, one of the most religious countries in the world.

urahara:
Why are atheists and irreligious people fond of blaming Nigeria or Africa's problems on religion.

After all we were not the only ones the whites brought the religion to. How do they associate economic failures to religion ?

I'm just curious

Nobody said religion is Nigeria's problem... Religion is PART our problem. Causes of Nigeria problem plenty, and religion is one of the causes

luvmijeje:
I am not a religious person. But porn don't move me probably because it's scripted and looks fake to me. So it's better my husband watch on his own and apply it to me.

So what's my point? If God created sex why do I need other people's opinion to achieve maximum satisfaction? Why I do need other people to tell me what's right for me? What's other people's business in my sexual relationship?Are they God? Are they the one that created sex?

But do u know how to fork?

MuttleyLaff:
You can repeat until your face turns blue that God does not exist anything, it won't change the fact and truth that God exists.

Actually, it's you who is in life saving & dire need to reach out to God, more than God has needs any more further to reach out to you.

OK...I am waiting for him to reach out. If not he does not exist. I am not reaching out to any nonexistent being.

MuttleyLaff:
You are strawman mining
with "so what's special in saying ..."

Isn't the ball good enough for you to kick about by itself?
Why are you stomping on and kicking the foot instead of the ball?

He proves Himself to you and speaks to you every moment of the day.

God does not exists anything... If he does, let him reach out to me.

MuttleyLaff:
Fortunately, if you cleanse your own heart from unworthy and unwarranted suspicions concerning God, you'll be eligible for being His mouthpiece.

So what's special in saying God exist to anyone who disagrees? Mr eligible, how does that make u different from someone who says flying spaghetti monster exists. See ur life

I am not God, doesn't equate to my interference not being divine and not by design.

God forever speaks, only you truthfully knows why you aren't bothered.

OK... Therefore park, I will take him serious when he proves himself to me or speak to me.

MuttleyLaff:
I have news for contrary to what you've asummed, God exists.

Unfortunately its not funny to u that u are now his mouth piece. U are not God so ur interference in something that does not concern u is meaningless. If God cannot speak for himself then I don't know why u are bothered.

Except you're malfunctioning, you are designed and manufactured to function that way
What you think is "playing mind game with urself and calling ur thoughts God" actually is attempts at coming to oneself

kpakpandoN:
Our God is the Righteous and Merciful Judge who does not change. Although He cannot behold iniquity, He still forgives sin when all the conditions He has set for pardon are met. The Holy Spirit reveals these conditions in Isaiah 55:7, saying:
“Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”
From this scripture, it is clear that our God pardons iniquity. He does this because He loves sinners, even though He hates their sins. Those who profess to speak for God should have this truth at the back of their mind. Some religious zealots today cannot fathom why God will pardon the sins of those who have committed so much evil. I will refer such people to the words of the Holy Spirit in Isaiah 55:8:
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.”

The will of God for sinners is that they should repent so that He can pardon their iniquity. Religious zealots are like Jonah who knew this truth and yet refused to go and preach to Nineveh. He actually wanted God to destroy them. Nevertheless, he was forced to preach to them, and even though their sins were great, God pardoned them when they repented. Jonah 3:10 says:
“And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.”
Surprisingly, Jonah was very angry with this outcome.
Jonah's attitude sounds shocking and unbecoming of a Prophet, but you need to ask our-self if you are not a Jonah in disguise. Are you like the Pharisees who rumbled whenever Jesus forgave any sinner? Do you look at unbelievers around you with disdain, believing that they are too beneath you for you to relate with or share the word of God with them? Do you find yourself getting upset when you hear that a really bad person has given his or her life to Christ, thinking that such a person deserves to suffer in hell? Do you write people off as being irredeemable? If you fit any these descriptions, then you are a 21st century Jonah and you need to repent too.
Written by Pastor E.A. Adeboye.

U sin and talk to yourself and tell urself u have been forgiven... Abegi...no God exist jare. Stop playing mind game with urself and calling ur thoughts God.

1Sharon:
Haha...I can bet my life is alot more fruitful than urs despite not praying to Jebus because I don't sit in churches and pray for god to do something for me.I get of my ass and do it myself.You that has been shouting Jesus up and down, what do you have to show for it?

How is the life of a Christian any more special than non-believers?

He is waiting for Jesus, the most powerful name on earth, to give him better life... However, he will have to not pray amiss, he would pray at the right time, he would have to ensure what he wants is in line with Jesus will for him

Everybody can justify their stupidity using the bible. Makes wonder if the bible is for stupid people

OK... Do u know took pick was initially meant for blinding the eyes of stubborn infants?

High heel for war.. Chain saw for cutting bone... How dumb do u wanna get?

Pathosky182:
I give her anything she wants because I love her but its getting to 3months she come around even when we are in same street

Oga if its up to two months she gave u sex, know that she is sleeping with another. U don't need to put up with her shiit. Life is too short to be dragged by one person who thinks she is smarter than u.

U are young, its time to move on to another girl for another expedience.

The nude girl in the pix is not the same person with the actress... They don't look I like from my own POV

Na wa...almost everyone here is sexually active, yet they are asking the dude why he is complaining that his girl is starving him of sex... So much hypocrisy on nairaland.

simpleKUSH:
I just pray the members he led astray will learn their lessons and turn back to God, amen
modified:
even the person below me has received sense

Mr prayer... How are u better than daddy freeze

Similarities between freeze and theiving pastors...

Both believe in a magical sky daddy

Bad boy

Chidorx60:
"a lot of people "not everyone except me.

seek the light and you will understand these things better, the problem is that many Christians are two shallow that's why you atheist think we don't know what we are talking about.


I smile whenever I see people insult and bash things just because they don't believe.

I wish you all,could seek God yourselves and forget about castigating others.

leave pastors and christians alone and search for truth personally.

A lot of people are wrong while u are right... Continue. Ain't u one hell lucky dude to be among one of the few people who worships the creator of this world rightly. U too much

Chidorx60:
reread what I wrote and maybe you will find out that what you wrote is meant for a different post.

Here are your own words

Chidorx60:
I presume you don't read minds so I will expect you not to know the way I practice my own christian race leave that to the Holy Ghost who you don't know.

I am not here to argue christian doctrines ,this is not the right place for spiritual matters.

but for the record,a lot of people are praticsing Christianity the wrong way.

but even at that,they are better than atheist a billion times, at least they have a sense of belief that can reconnect them back to their maker.

thank God for your wonderful affinity for spelling you will make a good quiz master.

whats there not to understand in the bolded?

Chidorx60:
I presume you don't read minds so I will expect you not to know the way I practice my own christian race leave that to the Holy Ghost who you don't know.

I am not here to argue christian doctrines ,this is not the right place for spiritual matters.

but for the record,a lot of people are praticsing Christianity the wrong way.

but even at that,they are better than atheist a billion times, at least they have a sense of belief that can reconnect them back to their maker.

thank God for your wonderful affinity for spelling you will make a good quiz master.

so you are practicing Christianity the while members are practicing it the wrong way.

the Holy spirit that talks to u is the right one while theirs is the wrong one... i get it.

u go soon open ur own church

Originakalokalo:
Read my first post on this thread..

If they exist....there is a spiritual world.

If there is a spiritual world there is a being that controls that world... The most powerful...

God, the father of all spirits.

Read my first post again...this time, slowly.

Your post did not say what I stand to gain by believing in these things or what I stand to lose for not believing.

If God is the father if all spirits then he is equally as useless the spirits because u cannot tell me what I stand to lose if I don't believe in them.

Originakalokalo:
If You don't believe in paranormal activities, demons, spiritual powers, and you dispel the existence of the spiritual realm generally,

You have made the greatest mistake of your life.

What do I stand to gain by believing in paranormal activities, demons and spiritual powers?