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scarletdp:
Good Morning, You just wake....

Enough of the sarcasm oga, contribute ya own quota for the matter!

Nlng2014:
It must really be difficult for some who are expecting so much from this experience....

You might be uneasy because you are not informed, however i am yet to find an employer who communicates all or part of its internal process/decisions/challenges to its applicant(s). Take for example recently an interview was conducted for the experienced cadre which had about 34 open positions. This interview spanned about 1 month in PH with the panel which had about 8 -10 people participating and later broke into 2 panels in order to meet up with the schedule for the exercise. And this recent exercise is yet to be completed. Internal challenges in a world class organization also occurs, and as an organization which holds integrity as one of its values, it would rather postpone and postpone the process if it means that the process will not be compromised.

'One of the truest test of integrity is in its blunt refusal to compromise'- Chinua Achebe

Suggesting that you would be called directly for medicals is wishful thinking, nothing wrong in that but if the above quote has anything to do with this exercise i would suggest you think again.

Well I believe all who are still in this race are competent enough to stand an AC if that be the next stage. I'm only saying that it is unprofessional for a world class organisation as NLNG to keep applicants waiting this long to conclude what should normally be a simple straightforward process. A big body like nlng should know what they want and if this recruitment exercise is in line with their business strategy one would expect that it would have been well thought out and proper structures put in place to address whatever challenges(ebola or what not) may come their way.

What I'm saying is that it will be cruel if after all this wait the company will dash a candidates hopes because they still have to select further. I wouldn't wish anyone that kinda fate.

Mehn....I'm beginning to reason alike with the guy that theorised that when and if NLNG calls it will be for medicals. My thinking is that it doesn't show responsibility on their part to keep job applicants that long on d sidelines witout any form of communication whatsoever only to later dash their hopes by an unsuccessful AC outing. It will be very heartwrenching and bitter for one not to get this job now...not after waiting dis long.

Abi my people wetin una think?

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Kay17:
But Mister, what are spiritual things? how did you know of spiritual things? what is the difference between the spiritual and the physical?!

You wanna know what the spiritual things are? Let's start with a question....What becomes of Kay17 when he bites the dust?

Kay17:
I do not resent God, but I find Christianity's explanation for our world unsatisfactory. I wouldn't say I'm an atheist in the sense that God does not exist, rather my God does not exist. The God from my childhood, the one within my experience does not exist.

I understand why it is difficult for you to stomach christianity. You are quite inquisitive by nature and you apply logic to spiritual things. I know there are certain mysterious things in life which even science cannot explain. The physical world can be put under such scientific scrutiny with some success but not the spiritual. Spiritual things are learned by divine revelation. That's why different religions sprout out all in a bid to explain the spiritual. Every man knows deep down that he is a spirit being. The faith you channel into belief in a non-existent God can also serve you well to become a Christian. .

People like you will make the best xtians in the end because thru careful study ur faith will be unshakable!

Kay17:
Then lay the objective proofs for the existence of God.



Although you almost approached a thesis, yet you failed to explicitly explain how Evil got into earth, whether as a natural consquence of sin or a consequence of divine punishment.

Kay17:
Then lay the objective proofs for the existence of God.



Although you almost approached a thesis, yet you failed to explicitly explain how Evil got into earth, whether as a natural consquence of sin or a consequence of divine punishment.

I dnt see the relevance of giving you anoda near thesis on the advent of sin in the world. What bearing does it have on your unbelief? Do u resent God because u feel he's responsible for evil or that he's not being just in his 'divine punishment'?

ifeness:
sexual intercourse! I'm sure you have heard of that. I wasn't created from mud....I have a biological body,I'm sure you do too.

Sexual reproduction is the process laid by the creator to use the created to continue with the work of creation. This is what we term procreation in christianity. God gave every organism he made the ability to be fruitful and multply bro. Sexual reproduction doesn't prove that there is no God u see it rather corroborates creation story of genesis if u know what I mean.

ifeness:
Yes they did. how did your god come into creation?

How did you come to know this. Where u there when it happened? Or you believe so outta blind faith!

ifeness:
Hydrogen,oxygen, other chemical properties are your creators ....yeah go ahead and worship them

Those are merely created elements which are the tools God used for creating u man. U believe the 109 elements in d periodic table just whooshed demselves into existence?

Kay17:
Let me get you right, is Evil the consequence of Sin or the consequence of punishment by God? Note the entirety of Genesis 3.

Evil is the direct opposite of good. Sin and evil are quite synonymous because watever is sinful isn't good. God punishment was clearly spelt out. Death for man and toiling to eat. Labour pains for the woman and d curse on d serpent. So how can u say evil is the consequence of sin. Evil predates adam and eve. The father/source of evil is satan who stopped being good when pride entered him and he rebelled against God's word. Remember genesis account of creation keeps telling us that God looked and what he has created from time to time and saw that it was good. So God can only make sumthing that is good. Once d created ceases to b good it becomes evil.

Pls try not to make anoda flawed but logically correct inference from my response. I prefer u make ur points and not ask these questions if u will keep drawing such bias conclusions.

Kay17:
Freeradical, your tone seem to change from the over assured objective stance to the timid subjective. Because you seem to declare a universal fact that God exists and his existence is universally perceivable but now the Universal God is reduced to a product of your subjective and personal experiences. Isn't it more accurate that this God is your God and not everyone else' ?!

Not so fast smartass. U r imposing a wrong inference on me. To clear it I may be sounding subjective(never timid)only because u directed to me a personal question and outta respect I indulged u with a personal answer. The truth is my God is also ur God because no amt of unbelief on ur part will change the fact that you didn't come to be of your own choice. You were created man!

ifeness:
A job is different from serving someone for no reward. There is a contract and agreement signed for a visible and realistic reward.

I work and I also have people working for me. I pay them otherwise I would be working alone.

Your case is worship and praise to a deity for a reward that is unrealistic.

Who says there is no contractual reward waiting for me as a result of my love for the creator. There is nothing unrealistic about whatever my reward wud be. Fact is we both work for sumtin in return.

So whatever happened to the declaration of our in-house oracle @dplacement. Something about Q4 2014

Kay17:
So it is by faith you believe God exists, since the data is not present, right?

Faith and my personal conviction which is a product of my life experiences. You know its also by faith that you take it that there is no God....if not can you disprove his existence with empirical evidence?

Kay17:
That is inconsistent with the Adam and Eve story of creating Evil into the world. the typical Christian excuse for evil in the world is traced to Adam and Eve; and we are led to understand that Sin when brought into the world made us humans flawed and as a consequence we have flawed actions.

Adam and Eve in exercising their free will disobeyed God and that is what led to sin and evil on earth. Though they were led into this sin by the serpent(satan) but that doesnt mean they created evil. Sin had it's consequences on man because the bible made us understand it brought with it hardship and death. God didnt create robots so when Adam and Eve disobeyed God we shouldn't blame God for an action he didnt take.

ifeness:
Go ahead and be a servant. I SERVE NO ONE

Really.....hmmm. I just hope you dont go to work because if you do you a already a servant to your employer. If you can stoop low to serve a man like you why not the soverign creator of all things

ifeness:
There goes the threats and blackmail. If i wanna seek God,i will visit the less privileged Gods in the hospital or i can chill at home in the comfort of my Godly bed.

Isn't God everywhere, the Sun,Moon,Stars are the Gods are see every night. What else do you want me to seek for?

I'm sorry if u felt threatened by dat post. There is not threat in choice of serving God. The God I serve is all wise and in his wisdom he will judge every man not the way we humans think. Just do d little good u can. Don't see God as sumone who lays in wait to torment ur soul. Rather see him as the force that is behind everyting dat is good.
True God is more present in his creatures than in anyting else so always see God in ur neighbour and continue being charitable. Afterall Christ gave us an idea of how we will b judged and charity is key. Remember when I was hungry u gave me to eat....

Kay17:
So now you think there is a 50:50 chance for God to exist?!

To me as a christian I believe 100% that he exists(i have no iota of doubt about this-you can call it my faith!) but for the sake of this argument I posit yes its 50:50. This is because from all the arguments about God's existence still God cannot be proven with empirical data or evidence neither can he be disproven with empirical data or evidence so thats why its 50:50. Always have and always is

Pr0ton:
Your question is annoying... How does my not knowing what set the ball rolling in the first prove God's existence? And what makes you think I will never know the cause by the way?

Ofcourse the question will annoy you because it is meant to provoke you to think deeply and critically about your position about life itself.

Kay17:
I'm not a biochemist.

But you still make the assumption that all complex structures necessarily result from a person, a creator. I thin such assumption is a leap of faith.

The same leap of faith you are taking in presuming that God doesn't exist when there is a 50:50 chance he does. We are both men led by faith!

ifeness:
God is energy right and you and i contain energy. So God is not a being but a quality everything thing in creation have. The Tree is a God just like my dog is a God too. When I'm having sex,cooking or sleeping,I am expressing a Godly quality. But claiming that the Jewish Diety is a real god is false. If a Adam and Eve were real, they were God and Goddess too.

I never said God is energy. I only mentioned that the first set of atomic or sub-atomic particles required energy to set the ball of all things in motion. I believe that energy was provided by God. Even the very atoms and fundaments of matter were created out of nothing by God. That is the only way all of all these will make sense. Thats the only viable explanation to how we got here. There was indeed a creator. We didnt just get here by chance or of our own doing bro. Some one of much higher soverignty, might and power put us on the face of this earth and it will do you well to seek him whilst he can still be found.

Oduduwaboy:
Okay. You think you are cool now abi? Okay what purpose did Yahweh have in mind when 25% of Africans started having the horrific sickle cell gene? what purpose did god have in mind when he created the genes/chromosomes for functional&congenital disordes such as G-6-PD deficiency or Huntingtons chorea? what purpose does the it serve serve for some humans to be born without their reproductive organs e.g Mayer-Rokitansky-Kauster-Hauser syndrome? Are these the handiwork of a perfect, omnipotent ,omniscient,loving& merciful god?
I have also noted that religion actually becomes more dangerous in the hands of the compliant educated mind; all the bombers of 9/11 were graduates from schools in USA! Dear biochemist , your advanced knowledge in your field does not preclude your ability to manifest an astounding level of cognitive dissonance.
I know that 3.5billion years of evolutionary trial and error can fine-tune the evolutionary biochemical processes in the most complex of biological organisms and also that abnormalities we still get to see are testimonials of the evolutionary process...things can still go wrong despite the billions of years!

I understand the point of your arguement but you still dont get my point. The mutations that cause the abnormalities and diseases you mentioned above are so insignificantly small compared to what can be gotten from random permutation of a human genome with trillions of base pairs. If a mathematician can expound on that you get an infinitesimal combination of base pairs that cannot produce any meaningful life-form. Modern science can elucidate the structure of the human DNA but yet we cannot create a human de novo because there is something that seems to be lacking.

We are a product of our own actions in life. We make our own choices and God should not be blamed for anyone's misguided actions. So atheists and theist alike have been known to perpetrate evil for whatever reasons known to them. That premise is not enough to disprove the existence of God

Kay17:
And because there is an interaction and organisation of simple macromolecules, you then made an assumption that all biological life necessarily have a Creator, right? How intelligent!

Are you a biochemist? Do you understand much about the concept of life? I will like to know your field before i engage you in this section of discourse. So as not to bore you with scientific jargon.
What I am trying to say is that these macromolecules arent that simple when it comes to how they interact to make life as we know it even possible. The complexity of the whole thing makes it impossible for the whole process to have occured in that fashion merely by chance. There is so much order in the way life processes are carried out. Glycolysis and gluconeogenesis are 2 opposite pathways of glucose metabolism but they can never occur simultaneously in the same cell else the cell will encounter what we biochemist call a 'metabolic disaster'. Hence when one is running the other is tightly regulated. Even the gene structure is so mysterious. Do you know that a large fraction of the human genome codes for no known protein but if u splice it off the organism cannot exist.

And please you guys(atheists) should stop shouting intelligence each tym you argue with theist. Make you point and move on. I bet none of you can beat the average xtian in an IQ test yet you somehow like to stroke your ego with the fact that you are sounding smarter. Jeez you guys should outgrow that fallacy please

ifeness:
God is everything i can see around me. I do not need to worship them,but respect them.

I dislike the word "God" because its been hijacked by religion.

That settles it then.....you agree there is God just that but not like various religions describe HIM/IT.

macof:
You jst proved my point. Christians like u are morons
If you were intelligent u would realize that I never said atheism makes anybody intelligent

U are just one confused fellow. A theist that cannot hold his ground in the face of an atheist because of his hate for a fellow theist. I never said I was intelligent did I.....why will a genius like yourself make that inference? Maybe you are not as intelligent as you think

ifeness:
90% of Christians are financially poor. The pastors are the Gods and the Bible is a tool they use to protect themselves " Touch not my anointing" But we do know no one anointed them.

You see evidence in the Bible god's existence? Can you elaborate please?

You keep jumping between God and bible God. We are talking about the existence of God or not(theism or atheism). Or do you believe there is a God even though it is most def not the Bible description of him?

ifeness:
We are not tied because there is no evidence Santa-clause doesn't exist. There is no evidence you do not have a billion pounds in your bank account.But your lifestyle will show if you are a billionaire or not. Therefore we need to see the evidence of the Christian's sky sugar daddy in his followers lives. [b]Most of them are obviously under-achievers,living from hand to mouth [/b]with their pastors massively wealthy,moving about in spacecrafts.

I love myself of course,if I don't i cannot love another.

@ bolded:That is so untrue....there are many Children of God who are well to do finiacially. As for the pastors ripping of the people and moving about in spaceships my advice to you is Let not another's lifestyle be the reason for your unbelief.

Personally I see every evidence in God's existence. Even my journey into science helped to affirm my belief in God. As a biochemist I have come to learn about organisation of life from the interaction and organisation of simple macromolecules. There is no way all of what we know about life can make sense to me if there is not a God-that I refuse to accept!

ifeness:
Please use the word "Bible God" because there is no God. There is no evidence,there can't be one. I am absolutely sure such an evil monster does not exist in our reality. Creation can never be attributed to the Bible God. I am not convinced that character described by the bible is not intelligent enough to create out beautiful and mysterious planet. Lets leave creation and evolution to the experts. I'm very sure you visit the doctor when you fall ill and not a pastor.

I do not have to love my neighbor,it only makes sense to be in harmony with people around us. I need to love myself first before loving someone else.

There is also no evidence to back HIS non-existence my brother so we are tied in between . I and many others like me choose to attribute creation to him....you just have to stomach that. Of course I do visit the doc when i fell under the weather....its the most reasonable thing to do. God made us in his image so we can advance in science and medicine for our own good .

So you do not love yourself?

ifeness:
Didn't your bible claim Jesus said take the log out of your eyes before helping another. Why must you love a "supposedly" loving being? That is a selfish commandment.

Talk about loving your neighbor, isn't that what a normal person should do? Did the Bible god justify that commandment by asking the Jews to annihilate their neighbors?

Yes God is loving and he extends that love to every of his creatures but he also expects you to reciprocate that love. When you give love of course it makes sense to expect love in return. Out of love he created man specially to have a higher reasoning power(not like the primitive life-forms that predate him) in his own image and likeness.

There is nothing normal about loving your neighbour because if it's as simple as you say a lot of the evil in the world today will not exist. Even many xtians find it difficult to truly love God and their neighbour...what most people do is lip service!

[quote author=Pr0ton post=27648553][/quote]So you rather put you faith in evolution. If you must know evolution is a process that cannot kick-start itself. What set that ball of evolution rolling in the first place.

ifeness:
Question: What way exactly did Jesus show you and how?

Believing in Jesus is nothing but a blackmail to trap and control a large amount of people.

Follow the 2 greatest commandments.....Love God and Love your neighbour. I bet if you do you have found the way