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dejilg: seems dis ppl dnt knw why Jesus had no earthly
Father and Mary has earthly father, a very good
distinction here! Jesus was sinless cos He isn't d
product of the normal procreation of man! but He
had to have a body and be born of a woman
because He has to partake of our humanity, and
be unda d law dat condemns us to d flesh inorder
to free us from the curse. Mary on d other hand
was a sinner like u and I (not in d sense of
committing sin) and d reason for being a virgin at
d conception of Jesus only meant it is a sign for
Israel and nothing more special about it...and Mary being a Virgin is a sign!

And am amazed that u ddnt know that its cos of Jesus' mortality in human flesh that He was being able to be crucified. Had Mary being anythin special as u suggest, Jesus wdnt have been able to be crucified, He wud have been like Adam before he ate of the tree of good and evil...Jesus had to have a mortal body, hence the purpose of Mary. This is as opposed to ur erroneous thinkin of a "holy special" Mary able to contain God...perhaps u ddnt know dat Jesus emptied Himself by eclipsing His Glory, so as to fit in dis world. Read the Carmeni Christi Phillipians 2:6-7.

Jesus after resurrecting now has an immortal human body i.e A Glorifed Human (Jesus remained a with His human body after resurrection)...this is the perfection of the Human nature that Adam lost!

So cast aside ur silly theories all in d effort of supporting catholicism, and study ur Bible!

Goodluck to u

striker9: Post my na*ed picture on nairaland.

stan-ogb:
when they win first...you will see...lol

Zither: How can Mary have been conceived without original sin when she was a mere human like you and I? Are you implying she was born perfect like Jesus? What gave you the impression Mary was 'designed' differently from others so that the sentence, "ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God" does not apply to her? She was just a mere vessel God chose to bring His Son into the world. That was her purpose on earth. Besides that, there was nothing, I repeat, nothing supernatural or divine about Mary. She was flesh and blood and was guilty of sin like others. She was among those whom Christ came to die for their sins. God is no respecter of persons. If Mary did not accept Christ as her personal Lord and saviour she would be languishing in hell. Please do away with the notion that she was conceived without 'original sin'. The Psalmist said, "behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me

rationalmind:

rationalmind: Lol, so, its not a theory for you to employ because ure convinced in your heart of hearts there is a God. How can it now be a theory for atheists to employ when they are also convinced in their heart of hearts there is no God

rationalmind: The pascal wager.

rationalmind: Good. You expect him to be just in the way he judges you? Same thing applies to your question when we face him. We expect him to be just the way he judges us.

As for us insulting him, its no fault of our own. He left no evidence and we treated him like a fairytale.

frank3.16:
Lol,

Mr preacher... Must what God knows about my future actions come to pass? Yes or No.

Honestly, i have No problem with God's knowledge about hell. Was just trying to point out the implication of ur statement

rationalmind: Lol, I wasn't insulting you. I was just joking with you. Sorry bro

frank3.16:
And how does asking these mind boggling questions mean one is questioning his creator? Do you think the creator can be questioned?
Bsides if religious folks believe they are the messangers of the creator, they should answer the question rightly without creatiing confusion. If they dont then they are not real messangers of the creator unless u say the creator is a confusionist.
Wasnt it the creator that created the human brain? Didnt he want us to reason with it? How does the brain doin its work mean the creator is being questioned?

rationalmind: Shut up.

And if the typhoon hits naija today and you find yourself before God, he asks you why you didn't use the brain and reason he gave to know christianity is false. What will you tell him?

thisisayus: Wif pple like u, nigeria is not going anywhere in centuries to come. MUST WE CELEBRATE POLITICIANS FOR PEANUT? Arghhh!!!

tekel: end of the wicked. ( puuff puuuuff)

Godson201333: Lol we are plenty oo ,we have our special thread,Kindly visit us below..

https://www.nairaland.com/676173/german-embassy-visa/90#16717737

donroxy: I have never suffered a HeartBreak in my Life , Why U go break my heart when I already know No human is Perfect !!!

I already expect any human to f.uc.k me Up, so when U do, it feels like nothing !!!

Na person wey no wise na ihm fast dey shake na ........ Why Should I carry a Human over my Head as if Tomorrow no go come ?


NoBody is asking U not to Love but don't lose your senses in the process, My own Love is not blind, I dey open my two eyes while forming love things !!!

Dude, leave matter for Mathias abeg !!!

donroxy: Sister, Love between Mama and Pikin self don dey fu.c.k-up dis days abi no be dis Naija mama go born pikin finish,look am for eyes and dump am for inside toilet and waka pass !!

Some mama even dey sell their pikin immediately after birth while some papa go just carry dem pikin use am do ATM Machine for bedroom ..........


Talkless of person wey no sabi ya papa and mama una just jam for road have some feelings for eachother and Kick Relationship, hmm hmmm, If I sleep, na to Open one eyes dey look am .......if ihm tell me ''I love you'' I go reply ''I don hear, I love U too'' .....

I sha no say, love no fit carry ma brain away .......wey she go come dump me, I go come scatter for ground !!!

Soldier go soldier come, Barrack no go move one Inch .... Untop wetin !!!

Gombs:
U r confused sir...visting and caring is not same as tending ....tending is like how nomads tend for their cattle, u see, u said the father was a SUPREME sacrifice paid for a cause , that God who could have helped him did not, because he was a sacrifice?

See how silly u sound...imagine Paul....tending lepers!.... and God now allowed him get infected as a SUPREME sacrifice for a cause? What cause? A cause he niched for himself? Did Jesus ask him to tend for them? U show em care, visit them and feed em the gospel, they need the word not tending....because Christ said CAST out em devils not tend em devils

Joagbaje: Did pope heal the man or it's just show of piety. If that's the case it's empty publicity . The pastors you are condemning and criticizing are busy healing sick people. Before you criticise or condemn others you should have something better to offer.

basildemaria: If I am right, why mavister refutes the teaching is because he tinks "this will cause people to have a wrong mindset,,nd do evil tinkin dey will end up nd pay in purgatory".

mavister: The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches false doctrine of "transubstantiation".The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are bitterly divided to this very day over the Eucharist, both claiming their own "church tradition" is the correct one. Transubstantiation is a close cousin to Gnostic theology because both false doctrines claim that "things are not what they appear".
Not even John Paul II can make right, a baptism that is wrong according to the Bible!
Catholic Baptism is not Bible baptism!
The following list give a summation of what we have been trying to emphasize. If the Bible is a Catholic book, and if the bible was compiled by the catholics just as they said :
*.1. Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6).
*.2. Why does it teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28).
*.3. Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).
*.4. Why does it condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11).
*.5. Why does it teach that all Christians are saints? (1 Cor. 1:2).
*.6. Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5).
*.7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12).
*.8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9).
*.9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11).
*.10. Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5).
*.11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5).
*.12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke 22:24-27).
*.13. Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? (Luke 16:26).
*.14. Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgences, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church?

mavister: yes bro..the word 'trinity' is not written explicitly or in the bible.but should one now say there is no trinity? Am not giving you an excuse to say purgatory is real because its not in the bible.. Now Its just like saying ok. I dont see where the bible said one should not smoke so therefore smoking is not sin...my dear friend..every word and scripture in the bible is giving unto man to understand by the holy spirit..so if one who is not spirit filled reads the bible...he begins to contradict it.. Ok now.the bible says u should not put away your wife unless for adultery, so do u mean if ur wife commits adultery u just divorce her away because ''u saw it in the bible''? Alot of people are making lots of mistakes today because they lack the inspiration and insight of the holy spirit.. Let me leave u with some bible passages as assignment for u to know that the trinity is biblical. I pray the holy spirit opens ur eyes..amen

Genesis 1:26
"LetUSmake man inOURimage":Three plural pronouns,(We, Us, Our) used 6 different times in four different passages: Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8.The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that the Father was talking to Jesus.
Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh [on earth in human form] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh [in spirit form in heaven] out of heaven. Genesis 19:24. In this text Abraham is visited by three individuals, one being Yahweh and the other two angels. Here we have God on the earth (Jesus) and God in heaven (father) sending down fire from heaven. This incident when Abraham met with Yahweh God, is what Jesus referred to when he said,"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he sawitand was glad."(John 8:56)The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that Jesus visited Abraham in Genesis 18 and 19.
Isaiah 6
Isaiah saw the glory of Yahweh, but John says that Isaiah really saw the glory of Christ. This proves Jesus is Yahweh. Combine this with the fact the Yahweh said, "Who will go for US" is a plural pronoun indicating more than one person in the Godhead.
Isaiah 40-55
Jesus echoes the "I AM" statements in Isaiah chapters 40-55. This spectacular link explores over 20 different passages in Isaiah and John.
Isaiah 45:23-24
I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. "They will say of Me, 'Only in the Lord are righteousness and strength.' Men will come to Him, And all who were angry at Him shall be put to shame.
Micah 5:2
But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity.
New Testament Trinity Proof Texts
Mark 2:5-12
Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming; who can forgive sinsbut God alone?
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
John 5:18
For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
John 8:58
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he sawitand was glad."The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them,"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple.
John 10:33
"I and the Father are one."The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. ...Has it not been written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'?"
John 12:41 + Isaiah 6
A simple reading of the context of John 12 makes it clear that John is saying that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus Christ himself in Isaiah 6.This proves Jesus is Yahweh.

plaetton: That childish talk again.
Well my friend, think about it this, any deity that threatens to throw people in hell for saying to bullshyt to 10,000 different and conflicting versions of his so-called truth has got to be far worse the worse cartoon villian you have every known,and far more silly than anyone ever imaginable.

If atheists are wrong that god does not exists, we are more like to still win simply because an intelligence that designs and creates a universe would have greater love and admiration for skeptics inquiring minds who question everything and demand proof, than dull hoardes of sheeple that call themselves homo-religious.

It is plain silly for you to even imagine that your god painstaking designed and created the universe and your elegant brains only for you to turn around and lobotomize your brain with the superstitious bullshyts of stone aged cavemen, that did not even understand that diseases were caused by germs.

plaetton: Do you agree that faith is irrational, and that faith and reason are incompatible??