₦airaland Forum

freshvine:
So this electoral capital of yours vote along tribal and religious line because since the first Republic they have never voted on issue based campaign.

What do you suggest to harness this imbalance?

No group in Nigerian history has ever voted along issues, our democracy is still in its infancy.

freshvine:
So why are you burgeoning the igbos for giving Buhari substantial votes and having the electoral capital to vote the direction they choose.

Didn't this same tribe voted for Yar'Adua, a northerner?

You are a confirm tribalist. And so you know I answered your question just decipher

You clearly lack the electoral capital even when paired with your sister region. Without alliances, you cannot vote in the direction you choose.

freshvine:
They were able to arrive at the 5% APC political arithmetic but have been zeroed in the scheme of things.

BTW.. . Have the northern region ever voted a southern candidate in an election?

Yes Obasanjo, and GEJ got substantial votes as well in 2011. Besides, the northern region has the electoral capital to vote whichever way it chooses.

You have not answered why you are suddenly seeking for Onu & Ngige? What do you want them to do for you?

MizMyColi:
Whether he was vague or not dies not exempt facts. Were ministers sacked? Were funds recovered? Are Ebele's efforts in taming the monster called corruption substantive and sustainable?
Has Buhari been consolidating on Ebele's transformation agenda as opposed to his widely touted and publicized change?


It is a thing of befuddlement and bemusement how you lot selectively go around town embellishing and branding those who do not sing your tunes as evil.

Perhaps you should read this thread and refresh your memory https://www.nairaland.com/2313405/buhari-sanusi-apc-should-stop#33725455 ....
The man Sanusi, despite being indicted is now a renowned saint.

Now that's bare faced regurgitative hypocrisy.

And just so you know....
I just read of the second Niger bridge postponement this morning.
I'm just a step away from joining my people in the agitation for Biafra.


I slept well.
Though late.

I can't help but notice your repeated condemnation of my assertions as hypocrisy, I restrain myself many times from branding your occasional myopic views for the purpose of civil discourse, let's try to keep it that way Miz.

With regard to the Niger bridge, you never condemned GEJ's failure to complete the bridge as promised, neither did you call for him to fulfill his promise of going on exile if he failed to do so.

Against this background, I strongly doubt your moral right to condemn or reject the suspension of the SNB project for re-evaluation, especially considering the suffering GEJ wanted to put on your people by tolling them for the next 25 years.

freshvine:
Ogbonnaya Onu the Igbo saboteur they always put on the front desk together with themselves during their evil machinations (campaign) to deceive the gullible on equality is no where to be found. It seem they locked him out from presidential villa since the inauguration of this administration.

Even Chris Ngige has lost his voice too.


It's okay.

How come you now seek them after vilifying them during the campaigns, are they no longer Efulefu?

asha80:
what does this have to do with second niger bridge?

The post was incomplete, though it was in response to someone else.

erasmus101:
south east APC what is going on? i demand explanation please,how can buhari stop ongoing project,and keep on spending billions of doller in the name of fighting boko haram, what is wrong with us,ohanaeze ndi igbo,the APC government is not for us, we igbo will not allow this to happen or else head will row

One cannot forget the way you all rejected the APC with so much glee just months ago. When people said the SE plays horrible politics, you misconstrued it as hatred.

Not everyone is happy with what is happening to the SE, but no one can say you were not cautioned either.

Regardless, the suspension should be taken for what it is, afterall GEJ was to pay only 30% of the cost and toll the SE for the rest.

hinwazaka:
Though I support George Uboh's fight. I am a firm believer in the notion of innocent until proven guilty. Why are you rushing to a conclusion before the issue has been heard by the court.



Why do Arrogant Pompous Comedians stack so much belief in men, than the institutions they put up. Give one shred of evidence to ascertain yours.

The inclusion of "if found guilty" in my post implies that he is still under investigation. You don't have to be mannerless either to make your assertion either.

Lamorde deserves not just to be sacked, but prosecuted and punished for such audacity, how could the person we pay to fight corruption be diverting the proceeds of the effort for his own corrupt benefit? Jail should be his final destination if found guilty.

hinwazaka:
I wonder how much Col Hammed Ali is paying the media and the APC spin crowd to promote his status at the expense of Mr Lamorde

Why do you Jonathanians always want to back corruption? Give one shred of evidence to back your claim.

MizMyColi:
Did he admit that GEJ fought corruption with sustainable and substantive results to show for it or not?

Good Morning

No he didn't, he only acknowledged the loot recovery and was vague about the 3 ministers sacked. Recovering $900 million and then Billions of dollars are missing under him is not a fight against corruption, but sheer hypocrisy.

Hope you slept well.

How is it possible for GEJ of all people to be compared to Buhari with regard to corruption and integrity? It's like comparing oil to water.

Regardless, Falana should guard his utterances lest they be misconstrued.

Cc: mizmycoli

Eluwilussit:
My brother, that was how Nigeria rolled in the past. A Hausa man was the mayor of Enugu in the 60s. That's why I am surprised when I read some tribal comments here. I had a Hausa school father and a Fulani school son in those days. I mean in mid-late 80s. The school is in SS o. When we were truly one Nigeria. Things have fallen apart long time ago. It is such a shame.

Such memories must trigger feelings of nostalgia in you, things have really gone bad. Let's hope for better days my brother.

WailingWailer00:
You know I detest you, please never mention me again
Mai nunu
Cow

Confused hypocrite, answer the question ewu.
Ndi ara.

WailingWailer00:
Northerners and their born to rule mentality only fueled by the yellowbar race
How many yellowbar men and women have been made commissioners in the North

How come it bothers you so much?

Sweetlemon:
LMAO!
When I say that politically, Igbos don't just seem to know what EXACTLY they want, some low self-esteemed bull will start stalking me.
They don't want Presidency, they don't want biafra, they don't want the senate, they don't want nada. The most painful thing is that they now blame others for their lack of not knowing what they want.
Business-wise Igbos are the bomb, academically Igbos are hot, professionally Igbos no dey carry last. But politically? Chai! As in ehn. ZERO.

Dayyum

pazienza:
How can one thirst for oil already located in one's region?
Is it a must to co exist with the Arewa-Odua?
If someone doesn't want to you, the natural reaction is to cut off the person, forcing the person to stay with you only proves you are desperate and a parasite.

Gowon declared war on Biafra, Biafra didn't declare war on Nigeria, isn't this a common knowledge.

Ndiigbo didn't vote for Ojukwu, but instead voted for a non Igbo, shouldn't this be a cause to praise Ndiigbo for our altruistic nature? Which other group in Nigeria had ever voted a person from another region over theirs? Shouldn't we be praised for our patriotism? No, you look for a way to turn it all against Ndiigbo, Igbo bashing is a task that must be done, so you accuse Igbos of not caring about Ojukwu, you accuse us of lacking the ability to unite and vote one our own, like the "sophisticated ones", you accuse Igbos of being politically naive, you accuse us of being( AGIP)- ALL GOVERNMENT IN POWER voters.

Ndiigbo can never please you lots.

Yorubas had the opportunity to vote Buhari( the now packaged messiah) but turned it down to vote a corrupt and incompetent OBJ, were they crucified? No, they were hailed as being sophisticated, United and all what not.

Igbo leaders rush to Abuja to congratulate Buhari, you term us AGIP, trying to reap where we didn't sow, trying to curry Buhari's favour.

Igbo leaders refuse to go to Abuja, instead criticize Buhari, you term us children of hate, tribal and emotional.

Everything the Igbo man does is given negative interpretations and used against him, he can never do right.

I am sure if Ojukwu didn't contest for any elections in Post civil war Nigeria, your interpretation will be that Ojukwu was a bitter Man that was stuck on Biafra throughout his life.

barcanista:
Well, that is the Irony of the whole thing. I see that they Love him as a Person, but they don't consider him worthy of Leadership and Administration.

That is the reason you all never voted him, you thought he was incompetent especially after his disgraceful defeat at war. The proof is in the continuous ridicule he suffered in the hands of Ibos till he died as pointed out by barcanista.

BeeBeeOoh:
Yet they are still the poorest region..

On paper.

pazienza:
And oh, it wasn't Ojukwu who caused tremendous loss of lives in Biafra.

It was the Arewa-Odua who decided that Biafra must not be, and then invaded Biafra, leaving death in their wake.

This is history as we know it. Ojukwu remains a hero.

It was Ojukwu's thirst for oil and nothing else. Why the uprising in the first place? Who threw the first salvo?

Ojukwu betrayed the people he wasted by running for President TWICE, being ridiculed in the process and being rejected roundly by the SS and the SE.

That is the cold hard fact.

xtrorse:
[s]Mallam, now that you have an answer on Ojukwu, provide honest answers to these questions:


*Tell me, why is it that your people find it difficult to survive without forgery, falsification of figures, wanton treasury looting and lies You can buttress your point with the census exercises carried out thus far in the country. 

*Why do Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris vehemently oppose the restructuring of the country You can use the 2014 National Conference as a case study.

*From the rigged election results statistics you advertised earlier, if Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri had/have the clout to win national elections why are you addicted to using underage voters

*Your slaves in the South have begun preaching a new message cum propaganda of how peace-loving and accommodative Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been to the Igbos in the North. And that it's the Igbos that have always provoked their host to massacring them. Okay! My question is, if indeed Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been peace-loving and accommodative, why are such gestures not extended to the Christian minorities in the North and Middle-belt

*For many decades now Fulani herdsmen have continued to exhibit despicable attitudes and heartlessness with reckless abandon, trespassing on indigenous peasants' farmlands, destroying their crops, killing the people and chasing them far away from their ancestral lands. Why have you chosen these path of destruction

*Explain in clear, plain language what you understand by the ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”.
Who made the statement and why 
Hint: It was such famous incitement and threat amongst others that metamorphosed into the carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election.

*"The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" 
- Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12,  1960

Why did your god, Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly utter this comment in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and you bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people? 

*How can a country built on a false and faulty foundation still attempts to progress by concealing the truth?

Be sincere and objective for once even if the truth is bitter and hurts![/s]

Read my moniker. I do not have to explain anything to YOU. Make the effort for the change you seek.

voltron:
Remember what happened to the igbos when the chips are down.. i know mallams can't swim

Nah not likely, we are nothing like the Ibo. Nothing at all.

This is a welcome development, hopefully the bridge is completed in no time.

Watch how the main beneficiaries of this probe will expose their myopia on this thread.

Kudos PMB for showing concern to the "five-percenters".

IG Arase is closely marking Uzor Kalu for some reason. Nice Rankadede from him though.

This is a welcome development, hopefully the bridge is completed in no time.

Watch how the main beneficiaries of this probe will expose their myopia on this thread.

Kudos PMB for showing concern to the "five-percenters".

1toRtoiSe1:
the devil is always on black.

Word.

Your siggy cracked me up

pazienza:
Lol, and you think we give a rat about him?

Before he became pro GEJ, we were already pro GEJ, after he joined the GEJ camp, we remained pro GEJ.

Our support for GEJ remained constant, independent of where Barcanista pitched his tent.

Great. Now why did Late Ojukwu run for President of a united Nigeria twice after causing tremendous loss of life in his quest for an independent Biafra?. Lets keep the discourse clean.

pazienza:
Biafra is a moving train, if the suicidal ones once standing in front of it, come back to their senses and decide to board the train, we thank God for their life and keep moving, if they don't, we still keep moving.

We were strongly pro Biafran and see Ojukwu as a hero when Barcanista was pro Arewa-Odua, and we remained pro Biafran and still see Ojukwu as a hero, after Barcanista crossed over, and even now that he has gone awol, we are still pro Biafra an see Ojukwu as a hero.

What does that tell you?

That tells me you were used for the elections and dumped. The protection seeker does not give a rats behind about your Biafra.

barcanista:
Honestly, I keep questioning the sincerity of some Igbos whenever they eulogies Ikemba Ojukwu...

ThÍs same Ojukwu with the help of Chief Chekwas Ókorie lost the 1983 SENATÓRIAL poll, after obtaining the ticket on a pLatter of Gold with help from OkorÍe. He lost to a lowly ranked nÉwbie.

This same Ojukwu was Ñot invited to the Burial of the Late Owelle of Owerri, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe

This same Ojukwu was denounced PUBLICLy and in Newspapers by Ohanaeze Indigbo, after he took the Title Ezeigbo Gburugburu

This same Ojukwu was brought in to APGA by its founder Chief Chekwas Okorie to contest the Presidential election of 2003. He was defeated in Anambra State and the entirer SE by incumbent Obasanjo.

The Same Ojukwu that was insulted and called a BÉTRAYER by Chief Chekwas Okorie after he sided with VictÔr Umeh for Þhe APgA party Çhairmanship tussle.

This Same Ójukwu that was told to step down for Uzor Kalu by PPA Chieftains (Igbos) in the 2007 Presidential poll because he's not "sellable"

ThÉ same Ojukwu that could not Save Peter Obi's impeachment in 2006 despite his condemnation of the exercise and was bluffed publicly when he called "the PDP dominated house to order"

The same Ojukwu that was humiliated at the Onitsha High Court before then Justice Obiora Nwazota. The Judge refused to entertain Ojukwu legal suit against Ohanaeze.

The Victor ------------ The Vanquished

Integrity ------------ Corruption.

Experience ------------ Cluelessness.

1MCN:
I expected irrefutable picture and video evidence that one can take home and not some hogwash conspiracy

You were given a link, did you open and not find video evidence?

themilanway:
So the protection seeker as far back as july 2014 never agreed with the leadership style of Jonathan?

He even listed numerous times how and where Ojukwu was humilated by his own kinsmen.

I'm feeling sorry for his dumb and ass licking followers.

Between him and his followers,one must be fooling the other.Some one should help me with answer.

He simply understood their vulnerability and took their heads for a ride.

francizy:
Mr. I have condemned Jonathan on several ocassions. Go thru Mizmycoli's thread where she talked about power distribution and increase in supply of it in recent times then you see one of my critisms of Jonathan.

This is how I live. When I see him err, I either condemn or avoid such thread unlike many Buhari loyalists that praised Buhari even when he said the govt is open for boko haram negotiations.

On Abacha's matter, the death of Abacha was celebrated all over Nigeria apart from north. Till date, when you take buses up north, don't you see pics of Abacha placed as stickers on windscreen of vehicles as though he's a role model?

I don't understand how you expect me to account for a bus driver's actions, everyone knows Abacha was a dictator.

Goodluck Jonathan's failures as you correctly submitted, are worthy of several condemnations as you did.

francizy:
If you had checked my mentions, I had stated clearly that my only problem with GEJ is his inability to liberate his people from suffering and then damn the consequences (because I know that you same lots gallivanting on this thread would have been quick to call him a bigot if he helped his people).

I try to be as reasonable as I can and stated clearly on several occasions when I see a failure on the part of GEJ.

Good you finally agree GEJ failed his people. The military regimes (incidentally northerners) have been roundly condemned by all Nigerians, I inclusive.