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DonaTee:
I dey gbadunbu too dear....
my dear d cost na die lol. All my biochemical parameters r gud, but I jus use it to fulfil righteousness, and I av a gammot of other supplements I take wit it so they must work synergistically in Jesus name amen! Omega 3 6 9, R.jelly, pollen, propolis, maca.

I noticed I dont wake up tired n drained since I started.

Alright then.

DonaTee:
Nne no b smal tin. Checked my weight today I added 1kg. Im mad. I was given antibiotics 3x a day so I had to eat b4 takin cos d drug sef dey cut belle talk more of additional twisting frm hunger.
frm tomorrow I resume ginger acv honey tea, cut out dinner.
Skippin lol I dunno lol

Lunch today was cucumber smoothie n my tummy is rumbling na to try sleep b4 I get tempted by mcvites biscuit for frigde

Nne biko resist every temptation especially if it's unhealthy (Refined Sugar and Flour). Am also lying down. Funny thing is my tummy is full but my mouth is looking for something to chew. Am reserving my 2 tablets of Sugarless chewing gum for evening/night when the sweet craving and mouth hunger is usually very high and too difficult for me to bear. I decided to cut down my gum for hunger mgt to 2 tabs per day. Once I take charge back, I'll ditch it cos it's not even so healthy in itself and will continue to remind me of what sugar tastes like. We must succeed.

DonaTee:
@Fvine dat ovaboost price gave me goose bumps. I say later I go buy. Wen d 8k ready I go der a sharp mama don buy am lol
I later bought 10200 n paid courier ontop. It has 120capsules. Said to take 4dly oh boy....me dey take 2biko. Make e last 2mths lol

. It's not just the sharp Mama. High dollar exchange rate follow do you too. You're so funny sha. I dey gbadu you. But you for still take at recommended dosage so that e go do im work wella once once.

chom4shizzle:
Thanks Fvine, I must commend u 4 answering pple here, I personally dnt feel lyk visiting ds thread always, nt because its bad bt because I get reminded of TTC wahala n feel I might nt be doing enof wen I read what ppl are taking, it mkes me tense especially if I knw am broke.
I neva knew dia was smthing like PCO witout d S. Am currently on Vitex, Metformin n Vit E hoping all will be well wit those, will get d Omegas soon. BFP 2 u all.

You're already on track for PCOS treatment. Metformin is the choice drug that is used in PCOS treatment. I started Metformin myself today. My Dr prescribed Metformin for the PCOS and Omega 3, 6 for hormonal imbalance. I found Omega 3 but couldn't find Omega 6 so I just went with the Omega 3,6 & 9 combo and am seeing the effects already. I also did sabi sabi & started taking a Supplement that has Inositol+Choline+But B6 after reading about the success of Inositol on PCOS. I might just switch to plain Inositol after am done with what I have so that I can increase my dosage to the recommended dosage for PCOS.

What's your Metformin dosage, when did you start and any side effects yet? Am on 500mg 2x daily to build up to 1000mg 3x daily. I dey fear for all the side effects I've read about. Praying mine is minimal and I reap the benefits.

Abeg take it easy on Vit E after Ovulation as a high dose of Vit E after Ovulation and in early pregnancy is said to be unsafe.

Lol at being tense especially if you're broke. TTC is costly honestly. I was pleasantly surprised and thanked God that Metformin is cheap. I feel you on that one but one must not take all the supplements. You only take what is needed as per the issue you have if you feel like it and have the means. For instance Ovaboost is great for PCOS & it also has 2000mg of Inositol but my Sister, I jump am pass when I saw the price. My periods are regular like clockwork so I don't need Vitex. A lot of people have recorded success only on Metformin without any additional supplement or drug. Am sure you get my drift.

Ugommazan:
hello my people, how are y'all. I appreciate having joined you the past month as I have noticed tremendous changes following all your advices. DH hollas ever1 too..we are grateful. I have been able above all things to not worry and act instead. Its been not easy but I'm recording progress. EWCM this month was wow...thank God. I'm so sorry I don't have answers to questions or suggestions that will help others since I'm a novice in the TTC journey. I feel bad being on the receiving end.
I'm on my 2ww and I am down with malaria. I had a blood test to confirm it. I don't know what to do I'm afraid anti malarial pills will affect conception and implantation (I trust God it is happening this month...Amen). Do I go ahead and take them or not. thank you once again for everything. y'all are awesome, y'all are getting BFPs , your quiver shall be full of children and our testimonies are coming in baskets in Jesus' name. baby dust to us. sticky beans to us.

I support @ DonaTee. Most Antimalarials are not safe in early pregnancy and since you're in your 2ww and believing God, You need to treat yourself like a woman who is pregnant and in her 1st trimester. I don't know about the safety of quinine in early pregnancy oh. For me your best bet is to resort to your Dr for a prescription of an antimalaria that they give to pregnant women in early stages of pregnancy if the Malaria is worrying you too much and unbearable.

chom4shizzle:
Pls Mamas make una torchlight my hormonal assay, I did it on day 23 because day 21 was a saturday n dey hd a burial. So Dr said its ok on day 23.
Hormone. Value. Normal
FSH 4.0 m.iu/ml. 2.5-36
LH 15.0 m.iu/ml. 5-20
Progesterone 5.6 ng/ml. 4.1-36
Prolactin 41.0 ng/ml. 6-24

Ovary Antibody elisa Bleep u/ml. Available
Sperm Antibody elisa Bleep u/ml Available

Comment: mild hyperprolactinemia

I quite understand d prolactin thingi bt all others are on d lower side of normal exept 4 LH so confused. N am concerned about my progesterone what does dat value mean 4 me on day 23?. N pls wat is ovary or sperm elisa Sorry 4 d long writeup n questions, ds ttc is blood draining, bt God is our help. Bfp to all.

Cc: Fvine

The hormonal assay is better done on Day 3. It's only Progesterone that is best done Day 21-24. The knowledge and understanding I have is values for Day 3 so please bear this in mind while reading.

FSH Day 3 : Normal Values = 3-20 mIU/ml
Omega 3 Supplement is good for balancing FSH and LH. "FSH is often used as a gauge of ovarian reserve. In general, under 6 is excellent, 6-9 is good, 9-10 fair, 10-13 diminished reserve, 13+ very hard to stimulate. In PCOS testing, the LH:FSH ratio may be used in the diagnosis. The ratio is usually close to 1:1, but if the LH is higher, it is one possible indication of PCOS". Yours is 15:4 and LH is higher.

Day 3 LH : Normal Values is less than 7 mIU/ml
A normal LH level is similar to FSH. An LH that is higher than FSH is one indication of PCOS.

Your Dr might also want you to do a Pelvic Scan to check for Cysts in his testing to determine if you have PCOS. He may also want to check for common PCOS symptoms like Irregular bleeding, excessive bleeding during periods, Amenorrhea, Hairs on Chin, Chest and excessive hair generally in the wrong places, Shedding of hair on the head, Bloating, Carrying weight mostly on the tummy if you're overweight etc

You have high Prolactin, you know that already. Ovary or Sperm ELISA (Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay (ELISA) is a maximal test that is used for for the determination of antibodies directed against human ovarian tissues in the case of the Ovary or or Sperm Cells in case of the Sperm. I guess he's trying to say that the test is available in his Lab if needed.

Your progesterone which is slightly higher than 5 is indicative of poor Ovulation if not anovulatory. Most Drs want to see a level of at least 10 in an unmedicated cycle and 15 & above in a medicated cycle to confirm a good Ovulation.

It seems to me that you have High Prolactin and could also have either a Polycystic Ovary (PCO) or the Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS).

@ Loisemm Thanks so much for helping us count our blessings, God has been faithful. Imagine if we get even if it's 10bfps per month, by year end that na 120bfps oh! No be Moi Moi. But I trust that God will surprise us and do more than that, Amen. Will ask @ Sugah to provide us with a full list of the drugs/supplements minus the antibiotics so that it can be listed. Looking forward to Feb BFP Roll Call.

@ Rukkington you can do the scan with High Prolactin it doesn't affect anything.

@ Chichung91 thanks for breaking it down. How many Packets of Menogon did you use? That drug sabi cost Fa! Last I saw it in the East was at N15,500 per packet. But Lagos is usually very expensive in all things including common Garden Egg and Oranges

@ pweetymii, yes most definitely. She said her post wash count was 10million with 98% Motility. No qualified hospital or qualified Dr will do an IUI without washing the Sperm otherwise dirt can be introduced into the Uterus which can even cause death.

@ DonaTee thanks for cracking me up. Laughter is very good for the soul.

@ All, pray, praise, believe and keep your heads up high. #confessionbringsconception #bfpbyfaith #bfpbypraiseandprayers. Una doh!

Am starting hopefully a 5 day Egg Fast today. I've been piling on weight gradually from not eating healthy. It seems am always hungry and my cravings are so high. So the Egg Fast is to help me lose the sweet tooth cravings, help me get back to healthy eating and also weight loss. I weighed in at 79.6kg this morning Wow! That's all the way from 77kg I weighed in the past week. And all the weight is on my tummy which is the worst/dangerous area to carry weight/fat. Now I know I can't put this off anymore. I need to take charge.

A downer to my plan is the Garden Eggs that DH bought for me in quantum yesterday. I told him about starting the Egg Fast but he still went ahead. When I confronted him, he just said, I love my wife, saw something healthy that she loves and bought it and that has become a crime now abi! He doesn't like me doing the Egg Fast, his weight loss approach is eat healthy and exercise, so I knew it was a kind of sabotage to my fast. I hate "exercising" by the way In fact I lost 14kg without exercising last year. Anyways I didn't drag it with him cos I didn't want us getting into a fight over such a trivial matter. I laughed it off but made a resolve not to let it stop me. If I find that it will spoil before Saturday, then I'll just turn it to oil-less garden egg soup and pop it into the fridge. There's also Agbalumo and Oranges too but I must jump all of them pass.

End of my rant. Wish me luck and cross your fingers for me that I don't derail. There are choppable things everywhere and the cravings are real. I need to get in charge like I was before my surgery.

chichung91:
Yes

1. What are the meds you used and what was the total cost of the meds you bought or at least an Estimate?
2. Where you the one that for the option of paying only for the procedure and buying your drugs or they offered it. TIA.

wonyi:
A quick question, if u find out ur little neighbour is doing her internship(laboratory ) in the hospital u intend using for ivf would u go ahead with the procedure? Though still at elementary stage (investigation ) n yet to make payment.

I'll feel somehow, I no go lie. But if am strongly convinced about the hospital, then I'll go ahead. I'd rather be unashamed and get my Blessing than be ashamed and lose it. Rather I can devise ways of ensuring that she doesn't find out. Since she's in the lab, I doubt our parts will cross; the only thing is the chances of her seeing my lab tests of which can be avoided if it's registered in another name or Initials. That's my thoughts at this time.

Babyadorable:
my dear,hw r u doing,yes ooo it wroks,I am a testifer,tnks a million sweetie,sleep well,luk gud,add a little weight but nt much flesh but I sure added small flesh .I miss out sm dayz sh

That's good to know that it worked out for you in several ways apart from weight gain. You can also start strength training to bulk up on Muscle too. What time of the day do you usually drink it?

LadyGuinivere:
My sister ehhhhhh! What won't one go thru in this journey?

Honestly e no easy but I believe it will all be worth it once your baby/babies are in your arms.

happymummy:
good evening mama
I intend to do hsg on Wednesday day 10 of .my cycle 
My question is can hsg be don by someone who has fibroid?

please is there anyone  in benin who has done the test in union diagnostic?
ejoor
biko
please I need replies
thanks

Yes HSG can be done even if you have Fibroids. The primary aim of the HSG is to check the state of the Fallopian Tubes. I've never been to Benin except well passing by to my home state. Benin Mamas am sure will come along and answer you on that one.

99billiondollar:
Mama's, i have been thinking and crying , since i got the prolactin result, why me

No now Sis! please stop crying please. It's a small thing now. It's one of the easiest of things to deal with. Just do the Ewedu, Cabbage and Vit B6 Therapy or Dostinex. God has been so kind that it's not something incurable or difficult to treat. So just bless God and don't let it get you down. Instead, get it down. We're here for you. You'll see. You'll get your BFP soon. Just do what you have to do and believe God ok. Take care and sleep well.

Queenbuki:
Helloo great people..i am new here, but I have been following for some time. I felt so relieved when I read sm comments.. I have been waiting (ttc) for some time now.. I feel so downcast that I no longer have libido.. I need serious counsel. I find it so difficult to enjoy sex. Though my hbby initially had erectile dysfunction, which God has helped us overcome. Pls I need mature minds for counsel, on:
1. To improve my sexual life.
2. What I can try to helpp concieve? I had done hormonal tests,n all were perfect.

1.Try to de-stress and don't think so much
2. Sit down and really analyse to find out what could be affecting your libido since your hormones are perfect. Is there something making you feel unsexy like being fat, feeling pain during sex, dry veejay which makes sex no fun, bad breath or something from your DH? etc. Once you find out what's wrong, then you can or we can help you find a way around it
3. Find something that will make you sexy, look back on when you were had the libido and always wanted to do the deed with your husband to find out what excites you.
4. Think of whats exciting to you now that can make you want to do it if your tastes have changed.
5. You can get Maca Supplement, it helps with balancing hormones and increasing libido.
6. If you've done all tests and you're OK then get your husband to get a Seminal Fluid Analysis (SFA) to get his swimmers tested.
7. Above all pray with faith, God answers. Prayer is the key.

Rukkington:
I'm really grateful @Fvine....
I jez thnk God I didn't wait a yr b4 running dis test as suggested by doc cos dey tld me I shld wait a yr b4 complaining.
Pls, wen is d perfect day of d circle to do d scan. I av a 25 day circle, wen shld I do d scan.
What type of scan shld I do cos I av done pelvic scan abt 2 months ago and d result was normal except for a left cyclical cyst and doc said I shldnt worry dat it will shrink cos I did it during my ovulation period.
I will be waiting for your response
Thnx

I was thinking about you having cysts which is why I suggested the scan. You can just do a repeat to check for cysts again just in case. But don't worry much. Let your Dr take care of things.

Orente21:
if i can b 60kg,i dnt mind cos i wasnt fat b4 dnt knw aw i got dis big. Am a teacher. My house is full of tenants,dnt knw d kind of exercise 2do dt dey wont laugh at me. My dh is a civil servant,so i cant register 4 gym wit current economy. Wat bmi?aw is it calculatd?

You don't need to register in a gym. You can just buy a Fitness DVD and use that whenever there's light. My advice for DVD for a beginner is Leslie Sansones Walk at Home Series. She's also on you tube. Other gym equipments that are not too expensive and can fit into a small home is a Mini Stepper and a Skipping Rope. You can also do Jumping Jacks (Jumping up & Down while raising your hands simultaneously).You can also do "Aside, together, Up & Down" Jumping that is done in primary school Physical Education classes. Brisk/Fast walking also helps a lot. You can also dance to music. I love dancing to Godwin by Korede Bello. Just set your watch to 30mins or 45mins

Also cut out refined sugar and flour, reduce the Carbohydrates you eat and drink lots of water during the day. The weight will start dropping off gradually. It's not easy but it's doable. Your BMI at 75kg is 28.4 which is Overweight and at 80kg is 30.3 which is Moderately Obese. You need to weigh at least 66kg to fall into the healthy weight range.

I know it's easier said than done, but just try and if you fail at any point don't kill yourself on it just pick up and start again.

99billiondollar:
This is the prolactin test result for me 38. 7ng/ml, fvine and other mama's, torchlight for me

Its quite high as the normal level is less than 24ng/ml but again it will be good to have the Lab comparative test value as different labs use different values. Hope this helps.

mamakendra:
Pls what procedure did you do? Is it IUI?

Yes she said she did IUI at George's Lekki, Lagos. The N100k as explained in her post is just for the cost of the procedure only, she bought her drugs by herself. I really think it's a good price. And good that the hospital allowed her that option too.

DonaTee:
Ewedu therapy u av to steam fresh ewedu leaves den blend it n drink. Don't add salt or potash.
Vit b6 50 miligrm twice in a day
Plenty cabbage shld b consumed daily. Plenty.
If ur dh use to suck or handle ur olympus he shld reduce/refrain frm it.
Generally mild exercise n healthy eating n ur supplements shld go hand in hand.

I also read somewhere in dis thread or ivf thread where dostinex worked for some1. She took 1 tab every week

@ Rukkington, the quoted post is for treatment of High Prolactin. The Ewedu therapy you asked for is explained there. You just eat raw cabbage as used in Coleslaw.

Pweetiebabe:
Mamas plssss i am xoxo scared right now , I did something last week which i later regretted i actually wanted to tell my DH but i never knew ao he will take it so i kept it to myself but i guess he somehow knew abt it now, he called from work and i can tell from his voice that there is trouble
I love my husband and my home so much that i will never want to trade them for anything on earth and he has been xoxo supportive during dis ttc journey, I really don't want any trust issues btw Us...

Don't be scared, don't give the devil that satisfaction. Whatever the issue is, just Pray for Peace, Understanding and Forgiveness as you both discuss. Also pray for wisdom in choosing and saying the right words while explaining to your DH. Am sure he'll understand and forgive you if you show that you're truly remorseful & repentant. But going forward you'll have to act to gain and hold his trust. I pray that all goes well. May your love sustain you and even wax stronger, Amen.

99billiondollar:
Fvine , hmm

Sorry it's actually for @ Rukkington and I've amended my post. I apologize for the mix up.

@ Rukkington, I agree with Praisefulmum. Your DH's SFA is OK although the infection Staph was picked up. You both need to get treated. I believe his numbers will even improve more after treatment plus Pregnancy with an infection is not advisable. Remember to disinfect your undies and that of your husband during treatment. Also BD with CD or abstain during treatment to avoid passing the infection between you both.

As per your Hormonal Assay, your Progesterone is inconclusive seeing that it was done on Day 3. Like the man said, it will be better judged using your result from the Day 21 test. His conclusion of hypogonadism is because your hormones are on the low side of normal and you also have elevated Prolactin. You can get a scan done towards your Ovulation period to check your ovaries and follicles as it can shed more light on the low hormones. Some Drs might also request for further testing while others will not. Its possible you're not ovulating or ovulating poorly. Meanwhile do not fret as its easily resolved by drug administration/Ovulation induction if you're not ovulating or ovulating poorly. Omega 3 (perhaps the 3 Combo) will also do you good. Your Dr will take care of all of that, don't worry.

@ Anikeayun, Babyadorable and Missmalia, Please pop in and update us on your weight gain journey. Let's know if and how the Dates and Cucumber mixture helped you or not in gaining weight.

Orente21:
I hp am welcome. Am 5.4feet tall. My weight shud be around 75-80kg can remember. My age is 27. I nid 2reduce my weight cos am TTC.

You're very welcome. Am also on a weight loss journey for ttc. What's your weight loss plan and what are you currently doing?

Loisemm:
The Bfp roll call seems a grand idea to me o. I bet it will lift spirits here and make this place more fun. Others can work on it. I volunteer to do it too if I am given the honour.
Vanny2, hv u done pregnancy test? If not, do so. Esp before u tk any medications for the 'so called malaria' *winks*

Sis, Thank you for volunteering to do the roll call. Please we'll be glad to have you as our Official BFP Monitor just as @ 4realwoman is the Official Prayer List Coordinator . Thanks again, looking forward to it.

It doesn't have to be perfect, if anyone is missed out, then she can or any Mama who noticed can call your attention to it and you'll just amend. Thanks again.

4realwoman:
@Fvine, Amen and Thanks.
@all, I have a feeling that this year is going to be a great year for us all here

I also have the same feeling too Sis. In fact I feel like it will be nice to have a monthly roll call of bfps and then at the end of the year do the final roll call, just so it will be vivid to us what God has done. More like the lyrics in a popular Catholic hymn "Count your blessings name them one by one & it will surprise you what the Lord has done"

@ 4realwoman, thanks so much for coordinating this. God bless you abundantly. Amen. Happy New Week Everyone. Waiting for more bfp announcements. Our God is able.

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mumigrace:
Hello everyone.

Congrats to those that just got their BFPs. May you all carry to term and bring forth smoothly.

My fertility challenge:
According to HSG done last year July, was diagnosed with perifimbria adhesion on my right tube. I did castor oil therapy for few weeks, took serrapeptase for a month and used 4 seeds of clean point tampon at some point. I didn't use these treatments religiously at all, in short, I stopped d castor oil therapy when I burnt my stomach . Finances aren't easy to come by because I don't work and dh's income handles so many bills and we all know ttc isn't cheap. So, for d past 4-5 cycles, i've not taken any drug or treatment relating to ttc. Right now, my name na sitdown look ...I just dey look God until he tells me what next to do even as he provides money also.

Mamas that have blocked tubes should signify so that we can share experiences, knowledge, pray 2gether and encourage one another. Lest I forget, i'm approaching my 3rd year in marriage

Wishing everyone here a baby or a bump this 2016

I have no experience to share but just thought I should encourage & remind you that you have 2 tubes. So if the right has Perifrimbal Adhesion then the Left is there to do the job. Also know that Perifrimbal Adhesion is not a sentence that conception is impossible rather it could just take time compared to where it doesn't exist. Besides you have an amazing God so no shaking. Sorry for the burn, I know how it feels plus the scar too. I got mine while trying to shrink Fibroids. Is your tube also blocked or its just the Perifrimbal Adhesion? Continue looking up to & trusting God, he's the Unchangeable Changer and doesn't disappoint on his promises. Wishing you your healthy bfp soon this year.

Roseey0:
Pls mamas Touch light on this sperm count.


The motility count ,Active 35%,sluggish 45% and death 20%, I don't know how to calculate the total count I saw 96*10/6 ml or so don't know wat it means

1.It means that he has a total of 96million sperm cells per 1ml of sperm which is great. An average acceptable sperm count is 20million so you gotta appreciate your DH's numbers.

2. Out of the 96 million, 35% = 33,600,000 is very active in their movement, 45% = 43,200,000 is moving sluggishly and 20% = 19,200,000 is dead. An average of 2million - 5milkion actively moving is said to be enough to do the job so he's still good since he has 33million, 6 hundred thousand actively moving.

3. He has a growth of the infection E.Coli and the antibiotics that can be used in the treatment is all written there. Please take to a Dr for proper prescription on dosage and duration to ensure it gets treated and wiped off completely.

4. He failed to mention morphology though another parameter that checks how the sperm cells are shaped and the number properly shaped. But in all, I'll say he has good numbers and the only place he has an issue is the infection and Motility. It will be great if the Active is higher than the sluggish and the dead. But even with that he still has good numbers.

5. He should just treat the infection and I believe his Motility will shoot up and become perfect. You can even get pregnant as it is esp if you're not infected (which is doubtful) but getting pregnant in the presence of infection increases the risk of malformation and miscarriage if not treated.

6. Please also get tested for infection too and get treated together with your DH. During treatment use protection to BD or abstain to avoid moving the infection up and down amongst you both. Wash and soak panties and his undies in disinfectant water for a few minutes before spreading to kill off any germs that might be on them.

Take care and God bless you with your healthy bfp sooner than you can think or imagine, Amen.

My lips are sealed cos I don't want to derail the thread or bring up arguments/debates. I read her post well, ignored it but was moved to comment thoughtfully as per my experience and views. She shared her testimony and all she did alright but derailed at some point & that's where I had issues. Therefore I still maintain my opinion. But I beg everyone in the name of God to just leave the matter and let's move on. I have already, which is why I've refused to quote further posts on it and make counter comments/arguments. We're one big family. God bless us all, Amen. Happy New Week Y'all.