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Aemmyjah:I'm not God. God knows how He determines who'll be accountable to Him. But would God be a just God to hold a mentally challenged person accountable, when he doesn't know what he's doing even at 100? For example, someone born with mental retardation. |
Aemmyjah:I didn't say so. I only quoted that scripture to show God does not hold children accountable. Would you quote where I said God holds people accountable from age 20? People develop at different paces. God knows when each individual should be held accountable for his deeds. The age of accountability would be different from person to person. That's why no age is mentioned in the Bible. There are people who are so mentally slow that even at 40, they don't know what they're doing. |
Veecruz:Please support your claims with scriptures! Don't come here pitching your thoughts against the word of God. I never said God has chosen the age of 20 as the age of accountability. I quoted that scripture without drawing any inference. God didn't stipulate any specific age for people to become accountable. God alone knows the age of accountability for every individual. People mature at different paces. God knows when an individual has reached the age of accountability. There are 5yr olds that are even more self-aware, more intelligent and have deeper understanding of things than some 7yr olds. No age was pegged in the Bible because God, being the only Wise God knows that age shouldn't be a yardstick. What would we say about those whose mental developments are slow? What would we say about those mentally challenged humans whose intellectual maturity take a long time? Some never even mature intellectually. If you want to argue, bring the scriptures for your backing. Say only what the Word says. If you are a pusher of your own thoughts, you would fall into many errors. |
Most definitely! |
advocatejare:They're shameless liars. Any evil mohammed does, they see no wrong in it. |
OLAADEGBU:Olaadegbu, the liar. I never said I posted a video. I said I posted a link to a video. Are you still denying that Kumuyi said he'll change the man-made doctrines he created before he passes on to glory. This guy, you're a pathological liar. This story about Kumuyi's statement is widespread. I first heard it from deeper life members in Osogbo in 2016. I have never ever read it in a newspaper before. I knew that such a thing would definitely hit the airwaves. When you denied it, I searched it and found it on many links online. That confirms the truth of what I heard. Olaadegbu, did I ever say that these ministers of God are monsters. You lying hypocrite turned your own words to mine. Are you really born again? Do you even know Jesus? The fruits you're bearing tells us otherwise. Did I ever write about church doctrine or church administration in all of my posts on Nairaland? Are you sure you have enough comprehension skills to understand simple English? I never wrote about church doctrine or church administration, so what inferences are you drawing about my about to difference church doctrine from church administration? May the Lord give you understanding. Use the link below to view videos of what Pastor Kumuyi said. It seems you're merely responding to bounce your thread. I don't see anything reasonable you've been saying so far. https://www.google.com/search?q=video+Kumuyi+says+will+remove+all+made+doctrines&oq=video+Kumuyi+says+will+remove+all+made+doctrines+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCTMyMTk0ajBqNKgCALACAA&client=ms-android-vivo-terr1-rso2&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 |
Blind and deaf atheists like lordreed, maynman, francistown, hopefullandlord and jaephoenix would say the accounts on this thread are false narratives. I shake my head for these people. I have a strong aversion towards voodoo but I have witnessed a spectacle where a man performed live juju in my presence. He bought 6 uncooked eggs from a hawker, made some incantations and afterwards broke the eggs to remove ear rings from inside the eggs. I witnessed it live. I have met a man who had a dream where he saw a cat pursuing a mouse while he slept on a bed in an unceiled house. As the cat was pursuing the rat, the rat, a very big one slipped off the roof and landed on one of his ears. He woke up deaf from that day onwards. I also witnessed the healing and restoration of that man's ears through prayers. I have met an Igbo man whose mother told me he ran mad 3 days after he was shot in a dream. I have lodged a friend in my house in the year 2000. We slept in the same room, and this friend of mine woke up to see his palms bleeding profusely from razor cuts. Interestingly, he told me it wasn't his first experience. In 1992, I had a friend who converted from Islam to Christianity. A son of the then sultan of Sokoto. The name of the guy was Mohammed. He told me about how Muslims used to fortify themselves before embarking on each of the religious riots that killed many Christians in the north in those days. He asked me to bring him a knife from my kitchen which I did, not knowing what he wanted to use the knife for. He then asked me to cut any part of his body with the knife, I refused. He collected the sharp knife from me and started cutting himself with it. To my utter amazement, the knife didn't penetrate. I can recount a great deal of spiritual experiences I have had. Anyone who says the spirit realm does not exist is blind and deaf. There are powers in the world. But Jesus alone has the Super Power. He can heal. He can deliver. He can save. When Jesus saves you, no Satan can snatch you from His hands. |
LordReed:I've sounded my warning. You can go on with your choice. The end has told for many. The end will tell for you too. |
LordReed:Please show me how I have made it all about my God. Should anyone keep sounding warnings to the blind and deaf atheists? Would the end not justify the means? |
LordReed:They're blind. They can't see God whom we see in our spirits. Some see too late as seen on this Nairaland thread: https://www.nairaland.com/746723/famous-atheists-last-words-before#9029754 |
LordReed:That's how they'll get tired of atheism once their eyes open. |
LordReed:You're just talking like a kid. Where have I involved God in this matter? Mtcheww. You don't even deserve an answer. |
LordReed:The thread I opened was just a topic of discussion, and after the discussion was done, should the thread continue? An atheist thread dedicated to atheism died a sudden death. That wasn't a topic, it was a caucus thread that could not keep feeding its caucus. Did the thread die because atheism was done on Nairaland? Lol. |
LordReed:Where's is the thread dedicated to atheism here again? It's dead, isn't it? Lol. |
HISSCRIBE1995:It's already suffering setbacks. They even created a thread that died a sudden death . |
gaskiyamagana:No one claimed the Bible came down from heaven as you claimed for the Quran. Your Quran has been proven to have many irreconcilable ERRORS both in contents and ideology. Notable Nairalanders such as TenQ and Advocatejare have dedicated threads for this. I might have to call on them to enlighten your ignorance. What is the Bible? It is man's compilation of God's dealings with Israel, detailing God's love for man and God's plan of salvation through Jesus Christ. It contains Israel's history as they walked with God - giving us insight into God's personality and essence. The Bible is written 100% by man but directed by God. The preservation of the Bible is in itself a miracle because many world powers have sought to annihilate it. Yet it survived completely today. This is unlike the Quran of Mohammed which is lost. I heard from good authority that Muslims today use the re-writen Quran of one Uthman. And there are so many versions of the same quran with varying inconsistencies. The Bible has lived thousands of years before the Quran. All manuscripts and codexes contain the Bible in its complete form. Some manuscripts are no more. Some have their parts affected by natural phenomenon. Each Bible manuscript is complete on its own . None depends on the other to assume completeness. So, saying the Bible isn't complete because of the loss of one or more manuscripts is childish. Comparison can be made between manuscripts to find understanding of contexts or to clarify texts. If you don't understand what I meant by clarifying confusion, that's it. The loss of one manuscripts or codex does not affect the completeness of the Bible in any sense of the word. God has ensured there are several manuscripts and codexes in existence which play complementary roles for each other in clarifying various parts or contexts. As for the Quran, the original book is lost. Infact it was burnt up. What you have in your hand is the 'holy Quran of Uthman' |
Ohyoudidnt:Not so. Each manuscript is a complete Bible on its own. They're like the same S.S 2 Biology notes written my many SS 2 students. Each note is a complete biology note on its own but you can make comparison between notes to clarify confusions you may find in some notes. The inclusion or omission of Matthew 17 :21 slows inconsistenciesThat's a very minor issue which could be as a result of several factors. If this occurrence happens in multiple places, then there'll be rooms for concern. The manuscripts are copied by men, and there could be errors of ommission during the process. |
[quote author=Ohyoudidnt post=129128144] What happened to the Aleppo codec or where is it?The whereabouts of the codex is currently unknown but that does cast any aspersion on the Bible regarding its accuracy. The codex disappeared just recently in 1947. Whoever made it disappear is an enemy of the faith who wouldn't want us to benefit for the richness of that codex. The Aleppo Codex was not necessarily a threat to other biblical manuscripts in terms of accuracy, but it was highly regarded for its accuracy and completeness among Jewish scholars and scribes. It was considered one of the most reliable sources for studying the Hebrew Bible due to its meticulous transcription and detailed vocalization and accentuation marks (vowel and pronunciation marks added to the Hebrew text). However, each ancient biblical manuscript has its unique characteristics and textual variants. Scholars and researchers often compare different manuscripts to understand the history of textual transmission and to reconstruct the most original form of the biblical text as accurately as possible. While the Aleppo Codex was highly esteemed, it was not the only source used for studying the Hebrew Bible. Other important manuscripts such as the Leningrad Codex and the Dead Sea Scrolls also contribute significantly to our understanding of the biblical text and its transmission throughout history. Each manuscript has its strengths and areas of focus, and together they help scholars piece together the rich tapestry of the biblical text's transmission and preservation. What can you say about Matthew 17:21 is not included in major Bible versions.Mathew 7:21 is not included in some Bible versions because some translators argue that the verse does not appear in some older manuscripts. The inclusion or exclusion of this verse from any portion of the Bible does not in any way justify the 'Bible has been edited' propaganda. There was no edit made, it was either included or excluded depending on the individual judgements of the translators. |
lawani:Olaadegbu, would you treat Kumuyi's case the way you do other pastors? I encourage you to do the same. You lying hypocrite. |
gaskiyamagana:There's no such thing as that. That's just propaganda. |
OLAADEGBU:Kumuyi, Adeboye, Areogun, Gbilẹ Akanni are monsters? May God pardon you.What you said was a lie from the pit of hell and satan is the father of lies.Olaadegbu even the video I posted where Kumuyi said it loud and clear was a lie? Whose son are you?We would see who is telling porkies here and who is telling the truth.We already saw dear. You have exposed yourself as a true son of Satan. If those monsters, as you called them are that righteous why did you hesitate to mention their names when I prompted you?When you stand before Christ, He shall judge every word of your mouth including all that you're writing today. If you're wise, you'll receive rebuke gladly but being foolish, you'll ride on in your foolishness until the end comes? Congratulations! All you did was to refer to junk journalists who could not bother to investigate the allegations against Pastor Kumuyi. I reiterate that Pastor Kumuyi never said that he would change bible doctrines as you liars have claimed.Whose son are you Olaadegbu? I even posted an article from Premium Times, and a video as well. Kumuyi said these things live and direct, and this satanic Olaadegbu is denying it openly! Even Kumuyi is ashamed of you. Why should I believe it when you lied that Pastor Kumuyi was your mentor?I know Kumuyi far more than you do.. You're not the one who'll tell whether I was lying or not. You're a mere mortal who doesn't know the next minutes, let alone knowing who mentored a faceless person you met on Nairaland. I could see that you have no clue about the differences between bible doctrine and church administration in your other posts and if that is what you call uniting the body of Christ then Christendom is doomed.You lack sound comprehension. May you be healed. Did I ever tell you about writing to unite the church? Would you point out where I said so? Don't you know the difference between what I write and what I stand for? Have you seen me writing to cause division? I preach the gospel only. I tell people the truth of God's Word. I do not cause schisms within Christ's body. I do not bring the church of God into open shame. Is it profitable to keep dragging words with a foolish man? If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself; but if thou be a scorner, thou alone shall bear it. - Proverbs 9:12 |
Expanse2020:I'm not accountable for Adam's sins. I'm accountable for my sins. I'm a sinner because I inherited a sin nature from Adam, not because I'm accountable for Adam's sins. A child is not accountable for his/her sin nature until he reaches an age when he could be accountable for his actions. An age when he can either accept or reject God's provision for his spiritual rebirth. |
Expanse2020:He's a sinner but not yet held accountable. Do you understand what accountability means or you just delight yourself in unnecessary arguments? |
Expanse2020:God does not input sins to babies and anyone who is not in the right frame of mind to become accountable. We're talking about accountability, not sin nature. |
Obrigardo:The Bible has the final say. We have presented what the Bible says. A child or a baby is innocent. That's the Bible for clarity. |
Obrigardo:We're only clarifying the position of scripture. No one is validating or invalidating him. We only said what the scriptures say. |
Mathew 19:14 "Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” Jesus already answered the question. As my brother Steep rightly said, the baby is a sinner because he was born in sin but God does not condemn him to hell because he has done nothing for which he is personally responsible. God does not hold babies or children accountable, as seen Mathew 19:14. Just as in the wilderness, God did not hold Israelites who were below 20yrs responsible for the rebellion of the nation. Joshua and Caleb with those who were below 20yrs were blameless, but all those who were older than 20 were condemned to die in the wilderness and not enter Canaan. Numbers 14:29 "In this wilderness your bodies will fall—every one of you twenty years old or more who was counted in the census and who has grumbled against me." |
vdestro:You mean you're not an Israelite by faith in Christ Jesus according to the scriptures? I don't want to argue unnecessarily on these simple biblical truths. |
vdestro:https://www.gotquestions.org/spiritual-Israel.html |
Beautifulday:You're ignorant of the Word my brother. I didn't say anything of my own. I only said what the scriptures declared. I read where you said there's no spiritual Israel, so I immediately saw no reason to discuss anything with you. You can argue with the scriptures if you so choose. |
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