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Abdulmujeeb52:
Meet Mallam Yusuuf Adepoju, he will give you appropriate answers to your questions constructively,

He is not asking Adepoju? You mean Adepọju would defend your religion for you?

Ken4Christ:
We are patiently waiting for answers.

Any answers so far?

MrPRevailer:
The wise Man Solomon, Son of David said "at the word of two witnesses is a testament established".

Mohamed claimed an angel of God gave him the Quran. Did Mohammed have even one witness?

Muslims claims Jerusalem doesn't belong to the Israelites.
Yet they also honor David and Solomon as prophets of God who ruled over Israel and lived in Jerusalem the capital city.

Was that Jerusalem in Africa or what?

They're hypocrites.

iamrealdeji:
(He has made it) Straight to give warning (to the disbelievers) of a severe punishment from Him, and to give glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a fair reward (i.e. Paradise). (Al-Kahf 18:2)
They shall abide therein forever. (Al-Kahf 18:3)
And to warn those (Jews, Christians, and pagans) who say, \Allah has begotten a son (or offspring or children).\" (Al-Kahf 18:4)"

No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot (took) sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but blasphemy and a lie. (Al-Kahf 18:5)

Satanic lies.

Christians and Jews don't worship Allah. Allah has no son but he has 3 daughters according to your books. Christians abd Jews have never said Allah has a son. We don't know anyone called Allah.

Yahweh is the only true God. The Creator of Heaven and Earth. He has a Son. His name is Jesus. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the whole world.

iamrealdeji:
Buy he said God came to his house in Ilorin and drank the 5th cup of tea he was to serve at his table. This man is too evil. Adeboye the head of criminals

Were you there to discredit him? All can't do that since he's a dead god. So, you think it's impossible for God to dine with His saints?

Adeboye is in all manner far better than the terrorist called Mohammed whom you worship. While Adeboye has been mightily used of God to bless and help many lives, Mohammed was used of Satan to kill and destroy many people.

TenQ:
What will Islam do without lies?

When they lie for Allah, they have rewards.

advocatejare:
They are notorious for lying, Muhammad never said that Islam will be largest religion. Muhammad said that islams started as a strange religion and will end as one

Sahih Muslim 146
It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullahb. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.


Iamrealdeji

Hahaha.

Busted!

TenQ:
I think he should be specific with two or three for evaluation.
We will beleive him if they are true!
LOL!

Lol

The liar just made a general statement to use lies to promote his pedophile prophet.

iamrealdeji:
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ has a lot to show for it. He brought the Quran which is filled with thousands of scientific facts that correlate with modern science,he brought Quran which is filled with numerous numerical miracles,he did so many miracles with Allah's help and even splitted the moon which NASA eventually captured, he's named on Google as the greatest man to ever live and the most common name ever,he modified world's fastest growing religion that's to be the biggest religion world wide before 2050. Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is the Imam of all Prophets including Jesus

His scientific fact is indeed very correlative with modern science.

He said the sun sets in murky waters. He was very correct.

He said sperm is produced through the backbone. He was very correct.

He said the earth is spread flat like a carpet. He was very correct.

He said Carmel urine cures all diseases. He was very correct.

Advocatejare and TenQ should help me add the remaining scientific facts of Mohammed that were very correct.

Yes Mohammed's religion would be the world's biggest religion by 2050 because his boko haram, ISIS, Al Quaeda, etc are in the world obeying his command of killing non Muslims? SMH.

Lol.

We're talking about the salvation of your soul, and the assurance of salvation. You're here talking about a dead Mohammed who was pissed by a demon to deceive the world that Jesus didn't die for their sins.

God bless Steep for the answers provided so far.

Jesus was a God-man. He was fully God and fully man.

As a foundation, the son of man is man. The son of a goat is a goat. The Son of God is God.

His human dimension was fully human. This enabled Him to be able to take man's position in sin while man takes His position in righteousness. This exchange can only happen between man and man. Since there was no man to do it for man, God put on flesh in order to do for man, what man could not do for himself.

However, He did not allow His humanity to conflict with His divinity. While He is designated as our Great Representative to pay our debts for us (By representing us in His human dimension, He is able to stand in the gap and pay on our behalves). Only man can pay for man. He is not only our Representative, He is also our Example (All His references to God as His God, His Father , Can of His own do nothing, etc were premised on His role as our example), and He would return as our Judge.

Jesus was man in His body but God in His Spirit.

1 Timothy 3:16
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

Samunique:

And if by accident he appears, he will tell you they're ignorant that they need to seek knowledge.

It's just unfortunate for some Muslims, I don't know how lying in the name of defending religion sounds to them even when they're aware of what they're doing.

These are internationally renown scholars who publicly admitted that Quran is not one. But try to tell our Nigerian Muslims about this, if it happens to in the North 🤣....... your guess is good as mine 🤣 🤣 , our Yoruba Muslims are a little bit better bcs, they'll try to defend it intellectually, even if it means to tell some repetitive lies , insulting your person, and diversion tactics. At least your head will still remain on your neck 🤣🤣, you won't be monitored by Islamic monitoring spirits.

Honestly Muslims need prayers!!!!

Islam is in itself a satanic stronghold in the minds of its adherents that blocks them from perceiving truth, and makes them see deception as a virtue.

How can anyone take such a character as Mohammed for a prophet for God's sake? That's not ordinary.

Can you imagine killing people and still rejoice about it, thinking you're doing the work of God?

Antichristian will either avoid this thread or come here to spill some lies without considering the eternal destination of his own soul.

Ken4Christ:
I truly love all Muslims and I admire their devotion to what they believe. Please, can I get answers to the questions below!

1. What is your conviction that Mohammed is truly a Prophet from God? Please be sincere with your answers.

2. Why didn't the Quran give us details about the life of Mohammed? I understand his name was only mentioned four times.

3. What is the hope of all Muslims considering the statement made by Mohammed himself in Sura 46:9

4. Jesus is mentioned in the Quran as Messiah 11 times. What does the word Messiah mean to the Muslim?

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See who's talking!

paxonel:
let's look at what it means to confess Christ in the context of this scripture.
It does not necessarily mean to confess sin. For instance, if someone is a fornicator it doesn't mean that the person should confess that he is a fornicator. Confession in this context actually mean to be convinced and accept it to the point you can say it out with your mouth that the Jesus that was crucified is the Christ or Messiah(as anticipated by the Israelites of that time).

Don't get me wrong : I'm not saying that confession sin to a Reverend father or a pastor is wrong. But I'm saying that, this is not what the context of that scripture is referring to

Now, do you agree that everyone, especially those that were born and raised by Christian parents have no problem confessing Christ according to this scripture, even though they may be witches, members of the occult , armed robbers, kidnappers, and therefore they are all saved?

Fixed.

If they have no problem confessing Christ, then let them freely do it anyway they're invited to do it.

paxonel:
To you, who is a believer in Christ ?

Romans 10:9-10

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

paxonel:
Most pastors in Nigeria especially don't specify who they are calling out, that's the problem.

What is hard for them to just say emm! Muslims,Ogboni,Witches etc, come out!
Than for them to put a general call where most people coming out were either members of other denominations of Christianity who were invited to church?

The worst is, they make it look as if these people were never Christians at all by tagging them church goers

That's because they know that anyone who is a believer in Christ wouldn't have any conviction of the Holy Ghost to answer an altar call.

Altar calls are for fresh believers in Christ as well as those who want to rededicate their lives to Christ. They usually explain by saying 'If you have not given your life to Christ, come forward". So those who come forward know by themselves that they've not given their lives to Christ. The pastors also add that "If you've given your life to Christ but have not been living for Christ, come forward and rededicate your life to Christ '. They mention the specific categories of people they're inviting to the altar. Then, the Holy Ghost does the conviction.

It's not easy for anyone to answer an altar call except he or she is convicted and propelled by the Holy Ghost.

paxonel:
who told you that?
Have you ever see Muslim or atheist going to church?
You are still finding it difficult to define who a Christian is
lies!
Big lies

A believer is anyone who believes in Christ.

John 3:16 ...whosever believth in him should not perish.

The only reason why you see anyone going to church is because they believe
lordreed case could just be an exception. It's like a true Muslim attending church which is not common.

But most people you see in church are Christians in Ernest, you can't dispute that .

By the way, what's all the altar calls for?
To catch up with one muslim or atheist who possibly is not available among a hundred Christian population in the congregation?

What a hypocritic wild geese chase

The case of lordreed is not an exception!

My dad went to church as a Muslim. He married my mum from there. Many Ogbonis are in Church. A lot of witches and people of the occult are in Church! Some robbers go to church too. But according to you, they don't need to give their lives to Christ?

paxonel:
Telling a Christian that he should give his life to Christ is like telling a child of the president or King to become a child of the president or king that he already is..
It amount to a contradiction.

Giving your life to Christ is not the same thing as repentance

When a pastor make an altar call, that church members should come out and give their lives to Christ, it shows how ignorant and deficient in scriptures the pastor has made himself to be. As a pastor, you either call out church members to repent of their sin, or to renew their commitment in church, or for communion ,etc

Therefore engaging in evangelism as Paul the apostle and other early Christians did, entails bringing a non Christian into the kingdom.
Not bringing someone who is already a Christian that is committing sin.

Though, repentance was part of their preaching, but it was never a requirement to be a Christian.

Who is an unbeliever?
An unbeliever is someone that does not believe

Examples of non Christians are Muslims, atheists, judaists, traditionalists, etc
Take note that these people can be morally upright as Christians too.

Meaning of the word TO CONVERT someone

The Oxford dictionary defines the word CONVERT as the definite and decisive adoption of another religion

This implies that when a Christian preaches to a Muslim for example, about Christ, and the Muslim begins to adopt Christianity, then the Christian has converted the Muslim.
Not a Christian preaching to a Christian.
.

But not everyone who is in church is a Christian. Not everyone who goes to church is a believer. Have you heard that lordreed, and renown atheist on this forum also goes to church every Sunday?

Veecruz:
See pain!

I thought you knew everything in the bible.

See why did you not see Genesis.1:27/Genesis 2:7? Now you are running from it to start talking off point

Or open your mouth and say that women have no living souls of their own or that women do not return to the same dust when they die. Brainless bible reader.

I added a clarification in my last post which you probably missed. You might want to read it again.

For emphasis, no one knows how God made a woman from the rib He took from man. The Scriptures never said God made a second clay into which He breathed the breathe of life. It is errornous for you to insinuate what the Scriptures never said. God didn't make a second clay to breath into. How He turned the rib into a woman remains a mystery. Carry your heresies away from here.

Having made this clarification, no more response.

Veecruz:
Ahan! I thought you knew everything in the bible more than every other person here.

So how then did you miss and not see that the bible clearly Said, "man" is not referring to that hunous being with a thing called penis?

Does Genesis 1:27/Genesis 2:7 not show that man means male and female?

Or do you say that women have no living souls of their own?

Or do you say that women do not return to the same dust on their own just like the man?

Trash!!

God made man, took a rib out of man, and from that rib He made a woman according to the Scriptures:

"And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man." Genesis 2:22.

If the Bible never said that God made a new clay and breathed into it the breathe of life, it is wrong for you to insinuate what the scriptures never said. No one knew how God used the rib to make woman. But we know that God didn't mold a second clay to breath into. The scriptures never said so!

Carry your heretic ideologies away from here. No more response from me. I can't engage in unnecessary and irrelevant arguments.

Image123:
i did not type in assumption or "might have beens". It defies logic that a helpmeet should be made better than what or who it helps.
Apart from what we biologically know, here are two scriptures clearly stating that the woman was and is weaker than the man.

1Pe_3:7  Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

1Ti_2:14  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

According to KNOWLEDGE, the woman is the weaker vessel. This is not an emotional or cultural thing. It has nothing to do with love or hatred for women, or being politically correct. Adam was clearly NOT deceived. The serpent was wise and instinctive enough to know which was easier prey, and an easier loophole in the chain. Nonetheless, no problem, whatever you choose to believe. i can't shout.

I can assure you that Veecruz would not listen to your scriptural explanations. He would not have any scriptural backing for his claims. Everything he'll say would be based on his own personal thoughts and reasonings. He'll expect you to accept them as truth against the Word of God. If you refuse, he'll say you don't accept corrections. He would also bring damnable heresies into the discussion while trying to pitch his logic against the Word of God.

I have engaged him on two occasions, and this has always been his pattern.

Tell him to tell us where God first created Eve out of dust before taking a rib from Adam to add to Eve. He'll have no answer for that but would defend his claims with defective logic. He'll read all your scripture-backed argument and still say you have nothing to say.

God took a rib from Adam, and with it, He made the woman. That's the Scriptures. But Veecruz wants us to believe that God first created Eve from dust, and then took a rib from Adam to add to Eve. Heretic!

LordReed:
Did I mention creator of the thread? Abeg go look at the person you quoted and see where he wrote CERN will open the portal to hell. If anybody is gripped it has to be you, easily gripped by nonsense. Temple of Apollyon. LMFAO!

He was not referring to any doomsday prophecy. There's no prophecy that says someone or some groups would open a portal to hell.

Me, why should I be gripped? I'm fully prepared for the end. Let it come now. You're the one who has a phobia for the end, seeing doomsday and end time where they're not.

LordReed:
Somebody was talking about CERN opening a portal to hell aka doomsday, you come along and say here is something to support what you are saying. And when I call you out, you double down on the nonsense until you see there is no way out. Now you wanna backtrack. Tell me which other context Apollyon is referenced if not in end time lore, you can't. Abeg rest jor. When 8th of April rolls around come and show me the portal to hell CERN opened. Bwahahahahaha!

My friend, go back and read. I didn't even mention the creator of the thread. I mentioned an individual who pointed out that Shiva's image is at CERN. I now mentioned you and others to call your attention to Shiva's image at CERN with a comment that Shiva is Apollyon so you can see the spiritual undercurrents in CERN's activities. But immediately you heard Apollyon, you were gripped with 'endtimephobia' and started seeing end time in every post even though I never mentioned it!

LordReed:
With regards to Apollyon? Supporting end time talk.

Your assumed, isn't it? Where did I talk about end time? I know you'll not be honest enough to say I didn't.

Apollyon is indeed a fallen angel whose activities are prophesied for the end times but my emphasis was not on that? Prove me otherwise.

My emphasis was on the fact that science knows the spiritual exist, and they're doing everything to unravel its mystery. Or why would they put Shiva's image at CERN? What's the hilabalo about the 'invisible particle'? Did I talk anything about end time to you? Be honest for once!

LordReed:
What else would you be talking about, tell me plz.

What have I been talking about? Tell me please.

Na wa o.

[quote author=SlayerofSatan post=115689814][/quote]Maynman is actually an atheist. He is well known on Nairaland for his atheism and Yahweh of sadhu conspiracy theories.

LordReed:
LoLz. Is Apollyon not supposed to be an end times thing? Keep deceiving yourself.

So, each time we talk about Apollyon, we're talking about end time things?

LordReed:
You totally did, even continuing to make reference to Apollyon. Abegi rest. LoLz.

Lies.

Why didn't you quote me where I did. My reference to Apollyon is as a result of the image of Shiva at CERN. Shiva is Apollyon. It was to draw your attention to the image, it's spiritual symbolisms, the so called 'invisible particle', and the attempt of science to unravel spiritual mysteries which shows that science acknowledges its limitations in these things, it's still researching these things while you have already taken a conclusive position.

Veecruz:
The question has allready answered you and it did ask about mentally retarded 4 year olds. So, you don't have anything to say.

Myopic!

The Mentally retarded were referenced to let you come to the realization that indeed humans develop at different stages and that individual age of awareness is not uniform. They were not treated as an isolated case. It was a sample to make you see the error in your generalization.

While others immediately understood what I said, you still have need of more and more explanations until I even have to use the mentally retarded to drive the point, yet you still failed to grasp. Or are you just pretending?

[quote author=Veecruz post=129270771]

Lying yet again for this statement came up because of i was addressing normal people when you said

The question you responded to, did it ask you only about normal people? You didn't see the deficiency in your answer? What are you still arguing about? Arguing against me because I covered all classes of people while your answer limited God's accountability requirements to normal people alone'?

Which i answered
Veecruz
Have you seen this heavy scrutiny happen to a child below 5?

My friend, are we talking about God or man? What's your understanding of the term "accountability with God"? What sort of question is this you're asking. How does it correlate?

But by 7 every normal person.is already a subject of inquisition and scrutiny for their action as proven by the fact that most children with still grew through nursery and primary school together with their age mates despite the different cognitive abilities. So there is nothing.separating anyone from lyability based on cognitive difference.

My friend you're still repeating the same fallacies you've been repeating ever since. Are we talking about God or man. You're saying by '7'. Who told you that there are no persons who become accountable with God before 7 or after 7? Is God a man?

Did Jeremiah not become a prophet at 4? Did Josiah not become a king at 6? I don't understand the basis of your arguments. I suppose to ignore you but I'm still answering you only because I see pride in you, and I see ignoring you may send you the wrong message.

Maybe you don't understand what "accountability" is biblically. Let me help you.

It is impossible to cover all factors that God looks at to see someone as bring accountable for his actions but for a clearer understanding, accountability is the stage you reach when you become aware of yourself, your environment and the existence of rights and wrongs, good and evil.

This awareness does not happen at the same time or age for every human. Even though I used mentally retarded people as an example, the focus is not really on cognitive abilities but on AWARENESS. However, awareness is also helped by cognition, and that's why I used the mentally retarded to provide you a glimpse but it seems you didn't get it still.

As i said, you do not have any valid thing to say..

You are just repeating yourself in your bid to redeem yourself and you dont have valid thing to say.

Repeating this statement aimlessly only shows that you're impervious to external ideas. I've shown you through scriptures why my position can be seen as valid. We're discussing God here, not humans. God's age or stage of accountability. Not human's age or stage of accountability. If you don't have any basic understanding of who God is and how He operates, please desist from commenting on posts like this. Otherwise, you'll fall into many errors, such as the heresies we have caught you with.