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PoliteActivist:
More than that, they are movements, and you better not betray the movement by admitting the other side has a point, or that you no longer agree with some of the stuff

I see.

That's the more the reason why they MUST lie against evidences or give flimsy excuses whenever they're presented with one. They would never accept they're wrong, no matter the evidence before them.

PoliteActivist:
Meaning what? I've done everything, including posting the definition below. You keep mindlessly repeating that nature doesn't go about selecting (I'm tempted to add "like a slowpoke" ). EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT!!! That is, everybody except you and budaatum. Listen, the net EFFECT is SELECTION!!! If an environment favors survival of tall people, over time tallness will be SELECTED FOR!!!

By the way, you folks,
1) If humans were NOT DESIGNED to hate whats good for their health and longevity and love what's not, where did that come from?
2) Where did things like lions liking raw meat and never eating grass, and goats liking grass, come from? It's not as if these animals evolved on different planets!
3) Can't you folks see that evolution and natural selection are perfect examples of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy? (Look it up )
4) Can't you folks see that there is so much they can't explain? Things like consciousness, abiogenesis, why lower animals generally have shorter life spans than humans, why lower animals are not capable of abstract thought, complex organs like eyes, dna, etc, etc.
5) In short, can't you folks see that evolution (much like atheism) is a religion - you just believe it or you don't!

That's the perfect truth!

bobestman:
hahaha i know everything about your false messiah. The more you talk, the more i expose him. Whatever you believe in works for you. You can use the name of father, ancestors and anything and get result. The one who protect you and do all that is your Chi/Ori/personal angel

You can't cast out demons by just believing anything okay? You can't liberate a dying woman from the claws of a river goddess by just believing anything. You can find a very recent testimony here on Nairaland, how Jesus used me to deliver a woman from the Osun river goddess that was bent on killing her because of a breach of covenant. You're too ignorant of the spirit realm to even contribute to these things. You have no experience other than conspiracy theories that are bereft of sound logic.

Give your life to Christ. I have sounded these warnings to you over and over again. I'm sure the demons deceiving you wouldn't allow you to heed the warnings and accept the sacrifice Christ made on your behalf. May God have mercy on your soul.

I've passed my message. I may not bother responding to you any more.

bobestman:
Bro jesus is meaningless name. An impostor created by Romans and credited with the acts of the true messiah. He is an oyibo, sisi with long hairs. He should go save his own ppl. Only your kind can save you. An oyibo cannot save a black man. Pastors are stealing, lying and raping ppl's mothers and children in his name. The true messiah is a black man. Jesus is an actor acting his scripts. When he is revealed you will cry. Stop giving your lives to thieves. God doesn't require that. He only want you to obey him. No where was it written to give your life to anybody. It is a Roman fab to tie your soul to their son. You all have been fooled. Fear God and obey his commands. I saw the 2 lights. He is the false

At the mention of His name, I have cast out devils, healed the sick, restored broken homes, turned sinners unto righteousness, delivered the captives of hell, terminated demonic oppressions, and demonstrated God's love to men.

The name of Jesus is not an ordinary name. That's the name that raised my younger brother back to life in 1982. The same name delivered me from the jaws of death in 1988.

Come to Jesus. He loves you. He cares for you. He would give you a new life. He died that you may live. Do not allow the labours of Christ regarding your soul to go to waste. Your life is temporal. Only Jesus can give you eternal life. Invite Jesus into your life today, and you'll be saved.

bobestman:
Which of the Chris? Okotie or Oyakhilome? Lol. The idea of dying for sins is a Roman lie to link your soul to the false messiah. Did he ever told you he will die for your sins? They fab that after his death. If you sin, repent. Am not sinning, am exposing the lies they used to decieve you. Your bible God, his son, his ppl, their land, are all in African. The world began here. Bible was written here by black scribes with dreads. It was stolen by Europeans, re-written and brought back to them. It was repackaged and sold to them. When i read it, many of our stories come to me. I see things you ppl can't see. Only a true seed can tell the stories. You think i fabricate many things i say? If you research thing i say or check in the bible when i quote, you will get it. I know many things in the book they twisted that you ppl don't

Chris was an error. I meant to write 'Christ'. Jesus Christ loves you. He died for the redemption of your soul. Do not waste the previous love He has bestowed on you.

Come to Christ today. He'll give you eternal life. And you'll find peace for your soul.

bobestman:
We are ppl of rules. Everyone knows rape, stealing etc are against the laws of the land. They brought all that and after them the ppl no longer regard the laws and begin to do as they see the thieves do. About worship, as your religions differ in worship and doctrine so were they. Mind you their is only one God but their are lesser gods but they don't worship them. The true God many of your religions don't know and mistook for Yahweh is the God of African. Igbo say ELE and their is place called Ugwu Ele(Bethel). Yorubas say Eledumare. Hebrews EL Shamayim, many names in your bible ended with EL. You ppl call on small yahweh. Your bible stories are our stories

I don't have your time dear. I can only tell you that Chris loves you and wants you to be saved. He died that you may live.

Frigga13:
Honestly
He don’t know Jesus Christ.. and have not been saved.. talk more backslide.

He believes he knows more than the Holy Spirit as discards scripture .. simply because His god revealed to him

Will always be on his post to tell Christians his real face ..

Nice one.

Charlatans like this must not be allowed to subvert the faith of young believers.

bobestman:
The only hell we know is Nigeria and your religions made it so. The ppl became brainwashed with it that they can't use their brain to create any meaningful thing. Since your religion came we have been in darkness. They rape our women, steal our resources, flog our ancestors till they accept their religion. Carry them off in a slave ship called "Jesus of Lubek". They turned our politicians to their puppet they use to steal our resources till today. This is why Africa is in hell. The saviour will come from us. Save our land and the Romans who gave you the fake Christ will come and bow. You all will cry for your foolishness. Hell is a state of the mind. Only christian who believe it go their. The true place is the valley of the shadow of death.

So, there were no rapes, no slave trades, no murders, no stealing before the white man came? My religion caused you to worship trees, kill twin babies, worship measles as a god, sacrifice humans for rituals, trek long distances for lack of vehicles, drink dirty water from contaminated rivers, etc?

bobestman:
Hahaha am actually figting the lie. The Roman fab lie used to decieve the world and one day you will get it. Sorry if i tell you about your jesus it will hurt you cos he is a Roman creation. The name is meaningless. What is je and sus. How many ppl in Africa use it? What about middle east? The name was gotten from the yoruba Esu. They first gave you y-ESU-wa and then i-ESU-os and then j-ESU-s. The true names of the father and son are common among their ppl.

You better repent before it's too late. All these your conspiracy theories that lack life and power would only lead you to hell.

bobestman:
So no one can expose your religious lies again abi? Hehehe. This is the age of Aquarius/light. It is not about me. Many of me will rise to expose all the lies in your religions. The light will end darkness (religion). Having found the truth many of you will join hands to end your religion. The good Way is not the way of religion. You can't deny the truth in what i say. I teach from your bible. Do you know that the bible was written by our ancestors? We are here to correct the lies. So don't be surprised i expose many things many of you don't know

Agents of darkness have been saying this for millennia, the truth keeps growing stronger and stronger.

If you keep fighting against the truth, you'll die in your sins, and the same Jesus you're attacking would be the one to judge you in the hereafter.

bobestman:
Hehehe Lordreed the lord of ndi athiests is far better than many churchians like the women hater above who curses, lies and believe a god he don't know

You can convert to atheism if you so desire. Or you're already one? Both of you are birds of a feather.

bobestman:
Lordjc is the Roman fabricated messiah. Daniel was told the robbers of his ppl will try to establish the vision. Who are the robbers? - Europe(Rome). Who did they rob? - Africans who are still in chains of darkness. How did they establish the vision? By creating religions and the false Christ cos they know the true Christ will rise from Africa the home of the hebrews. He is the one to destroy the lies used to cage the children of light and free his ppl. Has the time given by Daniel complete? NO. Endtime means end of Roman/religious lies and the freedom of Africa from darkness. The head that became tail. The Roman knew what they did but you all in their cages don't know. You will accept the lie for the truth and then the town crier cries and their will be many bitter songs. Hehehe

Were you there when it happened? Abeg rest.

No be LordJC, na lordreed.

bobestman:
The one you all know is the Roman fab christ. When the many lies of the Romans and your religions begin to make sense to you, you begin to know the one they packaged for you as the messiah. They robbed your ppl, steal their story and with it create the false messiah. Daniel called them the robbers of your ppl. They know the true messiah will rise from your ppl. They stole the vision and then faked it

You don't know who I know. So, please rest the case. The one you think I know, which you called the false Messiah is different from the Lord Jesus with whom I have to do.

jesusjnr2020:
I don't think you're a satanic agent though irrespective of your provocations, because you are only acting out of ignorance, just as Paul was once doing, despite being so sure of yourself that you know the Truth.

I only pray you'd also realize your errors before it's too late as Paul did, because the same Words of Jesus you attack today will be used against you when you appear before Him on judgment day, if you don't repent.

Meanwhile, i leave you with the Words of Jesus:

John 12:48 (KJV)

And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

If Peter and I, and all the other apostles of Christ as well as all the saints of God all through the church ages read Paul's letters and found them in correct alignment with Christ's messages, don't you think you're the one in error? And do you think Peter gave such warnings against your likes in vain?

You're the only one seeing contradictions. We don't. We see unity. We see oneness. Each scripture confirming the words of Christ. If you're seeing otherwise, ask Christ for eye salves so that He can bring you to revelations and deeper measures of spiritual wisdom.

bobestman:
I tell you again you can read 10000 times, perform miracles and still be in error. What they passed down to you was twisted by them and they control you with it. I am not asking for followers, use your brain and you will begin to see their many lies

I'm sorry, your responses don't make sense to me.

If Christ has confirmed Himself to me through practical manifestations and supernatural dealings, with an ongoing cordial relationship with Him, who are you to tell me otherwise? You don't even have any practical proof for the gibberish you've been spewing.

I should leave my full proof relationship with Christ for your blind followership of conspiracy theories? You don't even have a single evidence. My evidences are monstrous. I don't just believe Christ. I know Him. I love Him. We're in great communion.

Frigga13:
Tor

Thank you.

Now you’re beginning to understand the being and his foolishness

I have seen some traces of his demonic arrogance before on a deliverance from cultism thread. The OP who created the thread even sounded an alarm on him, he continued unperturbed. In that thread, he was arrogating some things unto himself. I can't remember exactly but he was seeing himself as some special human in a category higher than everyone including the apostles. I don't know if I'm correct, but it was something like that. I dismissed it though, thinking he was just being childish. This thread now exposes his true colour. He's an agent of hell. He doesn't even know Jesus.

jesusjnr2020:
You see your hypocrisy and falsehood despite all your denial?

You're also proven you're a barefaced liar.

You shouldn't have an issue with being tagged dog, swine, wolf, antichrist that Jesus warned us about unless you repent and stop behaving like one.

The spiritually blind who reject Jesus teachings to their own destruction want to teach true Christians about the Word of God.

The devil would really be proud of you Paulians.

You're a liar. An agent of Satan. A spiritually blind man who rejects the truth of God's word, and even lies against his fellow human to score cheap goals.

I have told you, and I'll tell you again! We do not reject the teachings of Christ, neither that of Paul. If Paul contradicted Christ, we would reject him. But Paul has never contradicted Christ except in your warped imagination.

If you see anything in the scriptures that looks like a contradiction of the words of Christ, even in Paul's writings, talk to us. We would explain to you the unity of Paul's statements in alignment with that of Christ. All by the help of the Holy Ghost.

If you choose to be heretic, remain heretic. The judgement will sit, and you shall be judged according to your demonic perversions.

jesusjnr2020:
You probably were unconscious when you tagged me "demonic" in yourninitial posts, since you can't remember it or probably have a short memory, at least you can't deny it this time though.

The same devil using you Paulians to attack the true Christians who uphold the teachings of Christ, also strategically sent Kobojunkie to attack the Word of Jesus from another angle. Imagine someone who always quotes the teachings of Christ, but doesn't keep any of it rather supports all manner of abominations and evils, and at the back even denying the existence of Jesus to other NLanders.

So exactly what you're doing now is actually the devil's concept, to discredit the teachings of Christ, because he already know the damage the Words of Jesus had done to his works here, especially with atheism, but continue falling easily for his deceit if you like.

He'd rather have you Paulians with such heresies and antichrist teachings, a thousand times, than just one person preaching and teaching people to keep the teachings of Christ, because that is the worst thing that could ever happened to him and his devices, and it's been clearly proven in this forum in the respect of atheism.

It obvious you're not ready to learn or accept the fact that Jesus alone built His church and no one else, with your lengthy attempt to make sense of a glaring lie. I can see where you got that erroneous idea from though. The same Paul, that's why you rejected the glaring saying of Christ because Paul said something else?

That's why I call you Paulians because a true Christian would never do that.

They believe Christ built His church fully as Christ Himself taught us, so nothing Paul or anyone else said could change that fact.

I didn't just tag you demonic, you are. It's the plain truth! You're as demon possessed as kobojunkie. Seek salvation and deliverance ASAP.

Paul never contadicted Christ. All his writings are in alignment with Christ's. Peter read all Paul's epistles and commented that some of his writings would be hard to understand by people like you. He warned us that people like you do wrest the writings of Paul to say what Paul didn't say, even to the destruction of your own souls.

I, being taught of the Holy Ghost have not experienced any discrepancy between Christ's and Paul's messages.

Both Christ and Paul, speaking by the the same Spirit of God spoke the same things. Paul, a servant of Christ further elaborated and explained in fuller details, the things Christ said.

There's no single contradiction. If there's anything you don't understand, let us know. We, by the help of the Holy Ghost would explain it to you.

Frigga13:
That’s his beginning of paulians theory.. that people worship Paul and not Jesus Christ


That op ba?

Lol.

So, he also added Peter as one of his enemies?

No wonder, he disregarded the scriptures I quoted regarding what Peter said about Paul.

bobestman:
You can read bible 1000 times and do researchs and still be in error. What Roman did to the bible many of you can't see it. You still teach many of their lies. The truth is at endtime when the sons of God all ppl await will rise and end the Roman/Relgious lies. This is why they told you demons will rise at endtime to make you never reject their god-spels. How do you foolishly believe everything 3000yrs ago you were not there? It is what will rise in this age of Aquarius that will save you not the Roman fabricated godspel. They are the robbers of your ppl. The truth will end religion

So, you are the one who was there 3,000yrs ago, and I must believe you?

See, the letter of the Bible kills, it's the Spirit that gives life.

Mind you, I'm not a Bible believer just because I read and researched. I'm a believer because of encounters. Jesus fulfilled His promises to me as stated in the Bible. The starting point for me was the baptism of the Holy Spirit which was a supernatural experience I had in my room 25yrs ago as I claimed the promises for myself. I have since had countless supernatural experiences including stunning miracles.

Keep deceiving yourself, gulping down conspiracy theories like sweet cane. If all you have is head knowledge, I'm afraid you don't know anything yet

Frigga13:
Kobo is in class of junkies.. he’s normal with his two eyes wide open

But the op,
That one is sent from the pit .. he’s knowingly doing the work of Lucifer and he’s so arrogant doing that.. and playing victims

He used to have interesting threads.. but that was used to captivate the mind of undecerning Christians., till he came out in his true colors

Then he got stuck.. he’s been wailing on it and has found out he has no support.. he’s alone.. and will clutch on any comment that sound like his hallucinations

He’s a son of perdition and will have his cup full doze at his time

Imagine saying that Jesus revealed to him that Paul and Peter are evil and taking glory of God.

He’s not normal

Wow!

I didn't know he went this far.

Frigga13:
That op is a demonic agent...

He’s sent to divide the Bible .. but he keeps failing at every turn

He’s trying to ridicule the word of God

He failed

It has shown from the fruits he bore over the years. He is in the same league with kobojunkie.

You can see how he has been reactional, calling me names instead of calmly engaging me with scriptures. The demons are manifesting through him.

He is blind. I pray the Lord would open his eyes.

bobestman:
Many are already waking up to the truth. Your religious blindness will never make you see it. Your religions are full of errors. Any person who chooses to use his brain can easily detect many of them

No, it has been foretold that in the last days, deception would increase. Especially through tables and doctrines of demons.

If you think those of us who have had practical experiences with Christ and have been indulgent enough to gather knowledge (both from the anals of church history as well as extra-biblical research) don't know what we're doing, you're deceiving yourself.

jesusjnr2020:
See this hypocrite now denying the glaring heresy of the Paulians after it had been exposed for what it clearly is.

After going around to speak nonsense about me you come here to talk about fruits? You didn't know I already saw your posts before calmly replying you?

If I followed your stupidity, i'm sure to I would be showing good fruits.

The Words of Jesus Christ Himself has exposed you as an antichrist.

Imagine calling what Jesus Himself said the wrong interpretation to defend lies.

Jesus said He built His church and you're here still arguing foolishly against His Word despite claiming to be His follower?

The Words of Jesus Himself has clearly proven the idea that anyone built the church with Jesus is false and heretic.

Jesus alone built His church, no one other man built His church with Him, not even Paul.

If you think otherwise then you expose yourself as an antichrist.

No wonder the church is dead and powerless today being filled with Paulians like you claiming Jesus only laid the foundation of the church and apostle Paul built upon it, and you think God would back such heresies with His Spirit?

I marvel for the depth of your spiritual blindness, and worst still the ability for ya'll to realize it.

May God have mercy on you all.

What nonesense did I post about you? When have you ever responded calmly to me? Or are you taking me for someone else? You're even now tagging me "stupid" . Lol. The fruits are already very glaring. You're as demon possessed as kobojunkie.

Paul never contradicted Christ. He and Christ where saying the same things. Paul gave us a broader explanation of what Christ said. He made us to understand more deeply regarding the statements made by Christ. Christ told us He would build. Paul tells us how He builds.

For example, Christ said He'll build His church. Paul made us understand that Christ builds His Church through us. He works through us. He's not physically on earth to build physically but He builds spiritually through us while we contribute physically. We Co labour with Christ to build. We are Co builders with Christ.

For example, I am the one who built my house. Does that mean I did the bricklaying and the plumbing work? No! Some others did that but I am the builder nonetheless. Jesus builds His church with many bricklayers, plumbers, etc building with him, and contributing their resources according to the capacity given unto them by the Holy Ghost.

Hebrews 3:1
For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.

Now, tell me the damaging things I've gone about to say about you. Where are they? I have only quoted you directly and never mentioned you outside of a direct quote.

jesusjnr2020:
What else is a expected of a Paulian (blind followers of apostle Paul)?

You have only confirmed how spiritually blind Paulians are, otherwise the heresy that Jesus only built the foundation but Paul built upon the foundation should make you shudder at the height of ignorance coming from supposed Christians.

Paul meant those Jesus used as pillars of the church he built so stop being ridiculous.

I even showed you where Jesus Himself spoke about building His church but you rejected His own Words because They disproved your heretic beliefs.

Even the demons would be laughing at your ignorance because they know much better.

Nobody built the church but Christ alone if you can let that sink into your hardened heart.

The apostles or any one else as such were merely labourers in His own vineyard that He planted by Himself. He planted it and gave it to them to manage til He returns.

None of them built any church with Christ, He only put them in charge of what He already built Himself upon foundation of the Word of God by the Power of the Holy Ghost, because He was leaving the Earth.

If you like though keep believing the lies that anyone built the church but Christ Himself. Your business!

Who says anyone else builds the church? Neither I nor Paul said anything of such. Christ builds His church. We are co - builders with Him. The House owner builds through enlisted masons. We are the Masons. Christ is the House Owner. The Master Planner. The Builder. If you cannot understand basic things as this, how can you understand Paul's writings?

Without being able to counter the generally accepted interpretation I gave, you resorted to name calling based on demonic delusions.

I guess the apostle Peter was the first blind follower of Paul, and he has written to forewarn us of impostors and charlatans like you:

1 Peter 3:15-16
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

jesusjnr2020:
Thought I should ignore the display of your sheer ignorance of the truth, and just give you one chance to prove you're just a blind and misled sheep and not among the irredeemable dogs and swines Jesus warned us not to give our holy things and pearls to because they wouldn't know the value of them.

What pillars was Paul himself speaking of in Galatians 2:9 if Christ didn't built His church Himself?

You're really a devil. The fruits show from your response. And indeed, you've never been a Christian. It's time for you to give your life to Christ.

By Pillars, Paul didn't mean pillars of the universal church, but rather backbones. Very important members of the church at the time. They were not literal pillars.

I myself have been called a pillar of a church before. That doesn't make me a literal pillar. Even if they were literal pillars, that does not eliminate their 'builder,' status.

Christ Himself is the Pillar of His Church. The Chief Cornerstone.

Their father should break the pattern.

I learnt the brother died in an accident with his wife too. The sister also died in an accident while coming from honeymoon with the husband. Wigwe too died in an accident with his wife and son. This isn't ordinary.

Antichristian, you've always denied the existence of family curses since your Islam doesn't know anything about it. What can you say to this then? I'm sure you'll love to explain it away, using your usual mental gymnastics.

Nice one.

Icuib4cu:
Christians in the house I need an answer please.

Man was created as punishment for Satan. Dust was tool rule and have dominion over Lucifer, an archangel who was the closest to God's throne. This is the reason why Satan and all his demons hate man so much, and keep creating wickedness in the world for man.

Additionally, man was created for fellowship with God. God wanted a being in His image with whom He can have fellowship.

Dtruthspeaker:
He has been slowly slipping into.the gutters for a very long time since did one mad thing here in nairaland. Dont be surprised when one day he speaks like an atheist for that is the direction he is headed.

I pray he needs warnings.

jesusjnr2020:
They are following Paul footsteps, because at the time he was doing that, he was so sure of himself that he was doing the right thing, and being zealous for God and His people, because he was convinced the true christians were blaspheming their God and doing things worthy of death. Unknown to him he was walking in error and ignorance, however the result was the persecution and wrongful killing of many true christians, including Stephen, who was stoned to death under Paul's watch.

It took the intervention of Christ Himself for Paul, formerly known as Saul, to realize that he was walking in error and fighting againt God Himself even though it was done in ignorance.

The same thing is repeating itself all over again with the Paulians. They seem to have inherited Paul's former attitude towards true christians. They are calling them blasphemous, satanic agents, antichrist and muslims because they take priority in Christ teachings over those of Paul or anyone else. If they had the chance to, they could even pick up stones to stone them as those who stoned Stephen to death.

This most of them do due to ignorance despite being so sure of themselves.

I pray God has mercy on them so they get to realize this gross error as Paul did before it's too late. In Jesus name!

There's one of your post I read on the "How I was delivered from cultism" thread which depicted pride and a giant dose of demonic arrogance. I already discerned from that that thread that something is fundamentally wrong with your professed Christianity.

bobestman:
That is what you are good at, talk, curse and lies which is the fruits of the devil. My knowledge on this issue is far huge than what many of you know. One day una go understand

You mean the deception you've fed yourself with is so huge?